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McMij
Not sure if this is the right subforum to post in, but here goes:

I've been playing soprano saxophone and obeo for a while now, and have recently joined a band. In certain environments, be for effects pedals or mixing or levels, I need to mic myself. To trial how this will work I've a bought a cheap dynamic mic, a "LD Systems D1057". I've borrowed a SM57 before, and the D1057 does the same sort of stuff, but more cheaply.

In terms of running the sax through effects pedals, what would be the best way to do this? There are several options I can see:

1) Mic ---> XLR to 1/4" converter cable ---> Pedals ---> Guitar amp or keyboard amp
2) Mic ---> Preamp ---> Pedals ---> Cabinet
3) Mic ---> Amp with fx loop

I could also purchase an expensive wireless mic (AMT Wi-5, for example) which comes with a receiver etc. then run that through effects pedals then into a guitar/keyboard amp, but that seems like a lot of money for a beginner to spend.

The main difficulty I'm having in choosing a setup is levels - mic levels are, I believe, considerably lower than guitar line levels. Does this mean that a setup like 1) wouldn't work too well because of lower levels through the pedals which may mess up something like pitch tracking in a Digitech Whammy, for example. This is then when the preamp idea 2) comes from - however would a preamp send too high levels? Would it be better to have a chain like:

Mic ---> Preamp ---> Effects ---> Combo amp/cab and head

With a preamp at the beginning to bring up the level to line level then the amp at the end to amplify, like on a guitar. Maybe a DI box too (although I'm not entirely sure how these work/what they do)

If anyone has any pros and cons of any setups mentioned above, or any new ideas, help would be very welcome thanks! Also, if anyone has any good recommendations on amps for, and general mic'ing of, acoustic instruments, that too would be welcome.

Ta,
Jim
PapaLazarou
Have you tried dropping a condenser mic into the bell of the sax ala Borbetomagus? Or scrounged up any interviews w John Butcher? He does a ton of on the fly processing.
e235
There are a fair number of vids on youtube of people using mic'd trumpets with pedals. Should be mostly comparable. Check out Blair Yarranton to start.

The eventide mixing link and pigtronix keymaster are both preamp/loop pedals intended to allow you to feed a mic directly into a pedal chain. JHS color box is another option (but does not have phantom power for the mic).
GGW
here's a series of videos where several methods are demoed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArvFSg_BqJ0
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