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josaka
got a Q174 and Q175... really struggling for reasons to keep them..

take up two spaces !! .. crash quite a bit.. no pitch bend range options.. only 1 aux out per 'voice'.. seem to not go below C1 midi wise.. the best thing is the Arp on Q175.. but barely use that.. can get a lot more for the same money..


..is there an argument for them..?

smile
ranix
I haven't had crashing issues. I like mine and frequently use the merge functionality. Portamento is cool too, I only have 2 slew limiters. I don't use it as heavily now as I used to since I got a Polyend Poly, but still use it for extra modulation sources when needed. When I used it heavily I used to pair it with the Standards module to easily and quickly transpose and shift octaves.
josaka
yep.. use quite a lot of pretty heavy multi layered sequences..

pretty much all the things that you said are why I think I'm letting mine go..
the main one being.. 'I use my polyend now' smile

the kentons(pro2 pro4) never really crash and have a bigger pitch range ..lfo.. portomento ..two+ aux per voice..
Rex Coil 7
josaka wrote:
yep.. use quite a lot of pretty heavy multi layered sequences..

pretty much all the things that you said are why I think I'm letting mine go..
the main one being.. 'I use my polyend now' smile

the kentons(pro2 pro4) never really crash and have a bigger pitch range ..lfo.. portomento ..two+ aux per voice..
Big on the Kenton stuff myself. Me gots one Pro 2000 MkII and me gots one Pro Solo MkII. The Pro Solo Mk3 is to be released very soon.

LINK = http://www.kentonuk.com/products/items/m-cv/prosolo.shtml

Me gots two Kenton THRU-5s and one Kenton USB-MIDI Host as well!

.... dayum man ... got 1970s Scorpions goin' on in the web radio ... "Speedy's Comin'" .... hot damn ... go Uli go! ....

Rawk!
josaka
I have 2x pro 2 and a kenton Pro 4..(from the 90s) rock solid they are.. no crashing no shinanegans more options than the .com(pitch range/key range/more aux/lfo/portamento et) they just work.. but I do feel they are playing catchup with some of the other cheaper more option featured boxes..

this has the crown at the moment..

https://www.tindie.com/products/hotchk155/cvocd-a-super-flexible-midi- to-cv-box/
bwhittington
josaka wrote:
this has the crown at the moment..

https://www.tindie.com/products/hotchk155/cvocd-a-super-flexible-midi- to-cv-box/


You've had no issues with cv.ocd under similar use? I'll have to order one, despite the 3.5mm jacks.

I use the Q174/175 with no crashing issues, though I have found the timing of the arpeggiator to have irregularities. In ways that I'm not really complaining about. Feeding it the same midi sequence multiple times has resulted in pretty different rhythms, for example, but I find it pretty cool. Just not 'rock solid.'

I do quite like the merge.
josaka
I need to give the CV.OCD a more gruelling testing before giving it the full thumbs up.. I am just wiring it in fully this week.. but read no complaints from others..

some reviews.

https://www.tindie.com/products/hotchk155/cvocd-a-super-flexible-midi- to-cv-box/#product-reviews

Rex Coil 7
josaka wrote:
I have 2x pro 2 and a kenton Pro 4..(from the 90s) rock solid they are.. no crashing no shinanegans more options than the .com(pitch range/key range/more aux/lfo/portamento et) they just work.. but I do feel they are playing catchup with some of the other cheaper more option featured boxes..

this has the crown at the moment..

https://www.tindie.com/products/hotchk155/cvocd-a-super-flexible-midi- to-cv-box/
I looked at the link ... wow ... I can see why it's so popular!
Gizmo
The CV.OCD has been a decent and useful addition to my system. The 3.5 jacks and small size of the unit were a nuisance in MU so I did a repanel, which is functional but incomplete at the moment -- haven’t got around to fitting the LEDs yet. (Maybe a repanel erases some of the cost advantage vs. Kenton? I don’t have the Kentons but they look solid.)

In my design the CV.OCD board (only) is mounted to the rear of the panel with standoffs as usual. Out front, I doubled-up the four CV outputs, which helps to avoid multiples. Also I skipped the last four gate outputs (9-12) because I never used them, but they are still available from the back if I really really need them. I did not repower the unit, just using the separate 9V plug-in supply.



Some links:
https://six4pix.com/product/cvocd/
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=170208
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=176815
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=181064
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=193578
https://www.tindie.com/products/hotchk155/cvocd-a-super-flexible-midi- to-cv-box/
JohnLRice
Gizmo wrote:
love Nice repanel job! thumbs up

Did you not make a power step down converter for it because you haven't gotten around to it yet or?
josaka
you can have a 3 octave pitchbend ..doesnt squeel below C1 can run four note polyphony or 4 singles 2 x 2 etc.. comple control over which output does what.. costs less than most of the others..
mine is just patched into a 1/4" patchbay now.. so ..direct cabling.
Gizmo
JohnLRice wrote:
Did you not make a power step down converter for it because you haven't gotten around to it yet or?

It isn't necessary in my setup because in the back of the modular I have a couple of "convenience outlets" for outboard gear, switched from the main. Now, if there are grounding, noise and other signal impairment issues as a result, I haven't noticed them (hope Mr. Hinton is not reading this).
JohnLRice
Gizmo wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:
Did you not make a power step down converter for it because you haven't gotten around to it yet or?

It isn't necessary in my setup because in the back of the modular I have a couple of "convenience outlets" for outboard gear, switched from the main. Now, if there are grounding, noise and other signal impairment issues as a result, I haven't noticed them (hope Mr. Hinton is not reading this).
thumbs up
Gizmo
josaka wrote:
got a Q174 and Q175... really struggling for reasons to keep them..

I have a pair of Q174s and absolutely still use them, alone and in combination with the CV.OCD. No Q175s, however.

One shortcoming of the CV.OCD when used for chords is the (mostly) unpredictable assignment of notes to CV outputs, which means you can't reliably track the top or bottom note of a chord, which in turn can interfere with downstream timbre control. To get around this, I route the MIDI stream simultaneously to a Q174, which enables certain selection of the high or low sounding note.
josaka
I am not really interested in the poly side tbf smile ...
monos are just not equiped well enough to ever compete with proper polysynths.. I see no point..
the info is useful though.!! smile
have you emailed the guy about that..?
Gizmo
josaka wrote:
have you emailed the guy about that..?

Yes I have had contact with Jason Hotchkiss but not on this point. What I meant earlier was that any "note assignment inconsistency" comes as a result of my playing chords manually where my human touch is the actual "randomizing" culprit. The CV.OCD on its own will not fix this. But, to the contrary, I have found that the CV.OCD has perfectly predictable behavior when started from a consistent state.

The dependably consistent behavior of the CV.OCD is significant for recorded MIDI passages. It means you can use the entire monosynth as a polysynth if you play back (MIDI) and record (audio) each CV.OCD "channel" one at a time in succession (stacked mono). Just be sure to cue the CV.OCD to the same state before recording each track, and it will reliably give you all of the notes over the course of multi-tracking. Of course this is not real-time, but on the other hand you have the full set of modules available for voicing.
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