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coolshirtdotjpg
Hi all, I just grabbed an E4K Turbo. I can't any info about this particular model on the internet. It's basically the same as the E4K, but has a 1 gig hard drive. I'm not sure if anyone knows the pricing for these? I've seen anywhere from 500-1,400 for the regular E4K, on the internet. I grabbed mine from a thriftstore on the cheap. Everything works, and I may keep it, but it would be great to find out its value if I end up selling it. I'd love to find any information about it, just generally.

Thanks.



CF3
$500 - $1000 is reasonable for one of those (depending on the condition and options, etc). IMO the hard drive doesn't really add much to the value. In fact, first thing I would do is replace it with a modern solution, like a SCSI2SD. I'd be nervous saving a lot of crucial work on a 20+ year old drive.

That generation of E4's really sound nice, BTW. Good score. Guinness ftw!
coolshirtdotjpg
CF3 wrote:
$500 - $1000 is reasonable for one of those (depending on the condition and options, etc). IMO the hard drive doesn't really add much to the value. In fact, first thing I would do is replace it with a modern solution, like a SCSI2SD. I'd be nervous saving a lot of crucial work on a 20+ year old drive.

That generation of E4's really sound nice, BTW. Good score. Guinness ftw!


Yeah, the only reason I am even slightly on the fence is that I have a JV-1080 that sounds great and takes up way less space. Even as a controller though, this is an amazing instrument. Within half an hour or so I was able to record, stack a voice, navigate the hard drive, manipulate effects, reroute "cords", etc. It's so intuitive. Also, I couldn't believe how powerful it was as far as polyphony. You could create such huge sound pads with.
CF3
coolshirtdotjpg wrote:
CF3 wrote:
$500 - $1000 is reasonable for one of those (depending on the condition and options, etc). IMO the hard drive doesn't really add much to the value. In fact, first thing I would do is replace it with a modern solution, like a SCSI2SD. I'd be nervous saving a lot of crucial work on a 20+ year old drive.

That generation of E4's really sound nice, BTW. Good score. Guinness ftw!


Yeah, the only reason I am even slightly on the fence is that I have a JV-1080 that sounds great and takes up way less space. Even as a controller though, this is an amazing instrument. Within half an hour or so I was able to record, stack a voice, navigate the hard drive, manipulate effects, reroute "cords", etc. It's so intuitive. Also, I couldn't believe how powerful it was as far as polyphony. You could create such huge sound pads with.


This is my favorite thing to do with these E-MU samplers. The way you can group and stack voices (or whole Presets) is amazing. It has better programming facilities than most synths. You can make some incredible “soundscape” patches with tons of layers and modulation going all over the place. Obviously the filters sound amazing too. The keyboard versions are really cool too because they’re self contained instruments.

Throw a SCSI2SD in it, get a copy of Translator 6 to convert .wav (or just about anything else) to e4 programs, and you’re all set.
coolshirtdotjpg
CF3 wrote:
coolshirtdotjpg wrote:
CF3 wrote:
$500 - $1000 is reasonable for one of those (depending on the condition and options, etc). IMO the hard drive doesn't really add much to the value. In fact, first thing I would do is replace it with a modern solution, like a SCSI2SD. I'd be nervous saving a lot of crucial work on a 20+ year old drive.

That generation of E4's really sound nice, BTW. Good score. Guinness ftw!


Yeah, the only reason I am even slightly on the fence is that I have a JV-1080 that sounds great and takes up way less space. Even as a controller though, this is an amazing instrument. Within half an hour or so I was able to record, stack a voice, navigate the hard drive, manipulate effects, reroute "cords", etc. It's so intuitive. Also, I couldn't believe how powerful it was as far as polyphony. You could create such huge sound pads with.


This is my favorite thing to do with these E-MU samplers. The way you can group and stack voices (or whole Presets) is amazing. It has better programming facilities than most synths. You can make some incredible “soundscape” patches with tons of layers and modulation going all over the place. Obviously the filters sound amazing too. The keyboard versions are really cool too because they’re self contained instruments.

Throw a SCSI2SD in it, get a copy of Translator 6 to convert .wav (or just about anything else) to e4 programs, and you’re all set.


That sounds great. I'll look into it. Right now, I'm just sampling through the stereo record ins, but I was immediately thinking about importing the same library from my 1010 bitbox.
neil.johnson
I picked up one of these a couple of weeks ago. Needed some work on it (unbending the front panel and replacing all the buttons, which were mostly shot, and took the opportunity to replace the sliders and the rotary encoder as well). While I had the boards out I also replaced most of the LEDs with blue ones. Because blue thumbs up

I also found that whoever at EMu had wired up the pitch bend and mod wheels had done it wrongly, so I fixed that too. I suspect the recal hid that error d'oh!

Started my write-up on this project synth here: https://www.njohnson.co.uk/index.php?menu=2&submenu=4&subsubmenu=15

Oh and definitely get a PC keyboard hooked up to it!!

Cheers
Neil
coolshirtdotjpg
neil.johnson wrote:
I picked up one of these a couple of weeks ago. Needed some work on it (unbending the front panel and replacing all the buttons, which were mostly shot, and took the opportunity to replace the sliders and the rotary encoder as well). While I had the boards out I also replaced most of the LEDs with blue ones. Because blue thumbs up

I also found that whoever at EMu had wired up the pitch bend and mod wheels had done it wrongly, so I fixed that too. I suspect the recal hid that error d'oh!

Started my write-up on this project synth here: https://www.njohnson.co.uk/index.php?menu=2&submenu=4&subsubmenu=15

Oh and definitely get a PC keyboard hooked up to it!!

Cheers
Neil


What did you do with the buttons? Was it a lot of work? Several of the buttons are pretty shot on mine.
ignatius
there's a bunch of info here

https://encyclotronic.com/synthesizers/e-mu/e4k-keyboard-r542/


there's various e-mu sampler user groups on facebook. also, "emus on acid" forum archive still exists as well as a new forum for e-mu stuff.

also, the entire e-mu product timeline w/info

http://www.creative.com/emu/company/history/timeline/
coolshirtdotjpg
ignatius wrote:
there's a bunch of info here

https://encyclotronic.com/synthesizers/e-mu/e4k-keyboard-r542/


there's various e-mu sampler user groups on facebook. also, "emus on acid" forum archive still exists as well as a new forum for e-mu stuff.

also, the entire e-mu product timeline w/info

http://www.creative.com/emu/company/history/timeline/



Thanks, I had found those, but didn't see any reference to the turbo and how it was different.
ignatius
coolshirtdotjpg wrote:
ignatius wrote:
there's a bunch of info here

https://encyclotronic.com/synthesizers/e-mu/e4k-keyboard-r542/


there's various e-mu sampler user groups on facebook. also, "emus on acid" forum archive still exists as well as a new forum for e-mu stuff.

also, the entire e-mu product timeline w/info

http://www.creative.com/emu/company/history/timeline/



Thanks, I had found those, but didn't see any reference to the turbo and how it was different.


well, obviously it has a turbo in it. Mr. Green

pretty sure it's the FX card. e4k turbo = e4x turbo

but per the link above the e4x turbo is configured as below:

Quote:
The E4X Turbo comes fully equipped, featuring standard 128 voice polyphony, 16 MB RAM (expandable to 128 MB via 72 pin SIMMS), a 1 GB hard drive loaded with over 400 MB of sounds and three additional CD ROMs.



seriously, i just don't get it
neil.johnson
coolshirtdotjpg wrote:
neil.johnson wrote:
Needed some work on it (unbending the front panel and replacing all the buttons, which were mostly shot, and took the opportunity to replace the sliders and the rotary encoder as well).


What did you do with the buttons? Was it a lot of work? Several of the buttons are pretty shot on mine.


I only replaced the smaller buttons, not the sequencer transport buttons - I never did find out what they were or suitable replacements as mine are OK.

Replacement is a matter of:
* Remove the rotary dial knob and escutcheon (one nut)
* Remove the five fader caps
* Open up the case and lift up the front panel (follow the instructions in the technical manual)
* Unplug the two front panel board ribbon cables
* Carefully prise off the five fader bushes, which clip onto the PCB so gently squeeze the clips and pop them off
* Unscrew and remove the two boards as one as they are connected together with a short ribbon cable jumper just below the LCD panel
* Carefully pull off the button caps
* Replace the buttons (see my web page for the part numbers)
* Do everything above in reverse order to re-assemble the panels
* When the system is back up and running, do a ReCal to setup the volume slider and rotary encoder.

Hope that helps!

Neil
neil.johnson
ignatius wrote:

pretty sure it's the FX card. e4k turbo = e4x turbo

but per the link above the e4x turbo is configured as below:

Quote:
The E4X Turbo comes fully equipped, featuring standard 128 voice polyphony, 16 MB RAM (expandable to 128 MB via 72 pin SIMMS), a 1 GB hard drive loaded with over 400 MB of sounds and three additional CD ROMs.


Interesting. My E4K came with the FX card, but only 64 voices, and with 32MB RAM and a 270MB hard drive. I have no idea if this was the factory config or an after-market upgrade - the encyclotronic website description suggests the E4K came with 4MB as standard. At the moment I'm finding 32MB comfortable (the same as in my ESI32) so no urgent need to max it out, although if I see a good deal on some SIMMs I'll probably grab them.

According to the technical manual:
www.deepsonic.ch/deep/docs_manuals/e-mu_eos_technical_documents.pdf
(E4K schematics are pages 196 to 234) the effects board is based around the EMU8000 synth and effects chip as used in many AWE32 soundcards.

Neil
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