Moog Matriarch Announced

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Moog Matriarch Announced

Post by Muse FTW » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:37 am

Moog Matriarch is a patchable 4-note paraphonic analog synthesizer with a built-in Sequencer, Arpeggiator, stereo Ladder Filters, and stereo Analog Delay. Capable of creating rich evolving chord patterns immediately with “no patching required”, Matriarch invites access to an abundance of inspiring textures, new sounds, and an endless supply of happy accidents through its 90 modular patch points. Based on the vintage circuitry of classic Moog synthesizer modules, Matriarch is a catalyst for creative ideas and a medium for multidimensional expression.

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Link: https://www.moogmusic.com/news/introducing-matriarch

Price: $2,000 USD for Moogfest Version

Availability: preorder open now from Guitar Center, more preorders open on the 30th - expected to ship 7/8/19

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Post by JohnLRice » Thu Apr 25, 2019 12:58 am

Sounds quite good. Thankfully not something I need or want at the moment though. :mrgreen:

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Post by SynthBaron » Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:18 am

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Post by nectarios » Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:24 am

lol at the price.
Moog will be Moog. Nice synth though. I'd just paint it black, all of it.
Although I'd never spend two grand for something like that, considering what other synths are around these days.

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Post by Kent » Thu Apr 25, 2019 1:33 am

Looks like the Lines forum finally got a promotional video catered precisely to the houseplant and cat set. :hihi:

I’m sure they’ll still find something to complain about though.

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Post by ranix » Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:17 am

houseplants need synthesizers too

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I would play it, looks cool.

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Post by SynthBaron » Thu Apr 25, 2019 2:28 am

Kent wrote:Looks like the Lines forum finally got a promotional video catered precisely to the houseplant and cat set. :hihi:
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Post by tioJim » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:45 am

It's a beast!

An expensive one though, not that anyone should be surprised by that.

What's up with Moog's naming department since the Little Phatty?

Great demos. Some talented ladies there.

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Post by The Junglechrist » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:47 am

It look a very nice synth to me ! I don't need it at all but the GAS is here for sure. Even at this price i'm sure they will sell those easy to all the people who already tried a Grandmother and liked it.


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Post by tioJim » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:50 am

What's with 'paraphonic' though? Does it mean 4 voice polyphony? As in, can I play 4 notes at once? With shared filter, EG etc. Never quite understood 'paraphonic' vs. 'polyphonic'.

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Post by nectarios » Thu Apr 25, 2019 3:57 am

tioJim wrote:What's with 'paraphonic' though? Does it mean 4 voice polyphony? As in, can I play 4 notes at once? With shared filter, EG etc. Never quite understood 'paraphonic' vs. 'polyphonic'.
Polyphonic involves a filter, envelope(s) and VCA, per voice.

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Post by tioJim » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:00 am

nectarios wrote:
tioJim wrote:What's with 'paraphonic' though? Does it mean 4 voice polyphony? As in, can I play 4 notes at once? With shared filter, EG etc. Never quite understood 'paraphonic' vs. 'polyphonic'.
Polyphonic involves a filter, envelope(s) and VCA, per voice.
But you don't necessarily have control individually?

My OB-6 is 'polyphonic' but there's only one set of controls for say the filter. But does that mean there are 6 seperate filter circuits under the hood?

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Post by craigie77 » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:01 am

Maybe a Moog PATRIARCH sequencer on the way, with extra control

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Post by nectarios » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:06 am

tioJim wrote:
nectarios wrote:
tioJim wrote:What's with 'paraphonic' though? Does it mean 4 voice polyphony? As in, can I play 4 notes at once? With shared filter, EG etc. Never quite understood 'paraphonic' vs. 'polyphonic'.
Polyphonic involves a filter, envelope(s) and VCA, per voice.
But you don't necessarily have control individually?

My OB-6 is 'polyphonic' but there's only one set of controls for say the filter. But does that mean there are 6 seperate filter circuits under the hood?
Let's assume there is a patch where you have programmed an envelope, modulating the filter, when you press and hold the note down, you hear the envelope modulating the filter and staying at the sustain stage you have programmed.
Then when you press another note, another envelope (that shares the same settings) modulates the filter of *only* the new note you pressed, whilst the first note is still held at the sustain stage.
The same applies to the amp envelope (and amp).

Yes, your OB-6 has 6 filters, 6 sets of envelopes, 6 VCAs, 12 VCOs (2 per voice), under the hood.

This Moog has only one VCF, one set of envelopes, one VCA.
This is what I gather since I haven't actually read too much about this new Moog since its of no interest to me, so I could be mistaken.
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Post by tioJim » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:08 am

nectarios wrote:
tioJim wrote:
nectarios wrote:
tioJim wrote:What's with 'paraphonic' though? Does it mean 4 voice polyphony? As in, can I play 4 notes at once? With shared filter, EG etc. Never quite understood 'paraphonic' vs. 'polyphonic'.
Polyphonic involves a filter, envelope(s) and VCA, per voice.
But you don't necessarily have control individually?

My OB-6 is 'polyphonic' but there's only one set of controls for say the filter. But does that mean there are 6 seperate filter circuits under the hood?
Let's assume there is a patch where you have programmed an envelope, modulating the filter, when you press and hold the note down, you hear the envelope modulating the filter and staying at the sustain stage you have programmed.
Then when you press another note, another envelope (that shares the same settings) modulates the filter of *only* the new note you pressed, whilst the first note is still held at the sustain stage.
The same applies to the amp envelope (and amp).

Yes, your OB-6 has 6 filters, 6 sets of envelopes, 6 VCAs under the hood.

This Moog has only one VCF, one set of envelopes, one VCA.
This is what I gather since I haven't actually read too much about this new Moog since its of no interest to me, so I could be mistaken.
Ah yes, that makes sense. Thanks :)

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Post by nectarios » Thu Apr 25, 2019 4:10 am

This is one of the reasons that I think this is ridiculously overpriced, but that's like, my opinion.

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:30 am

Looks and sounds amazing, don't think it's too expensive, but don't really need one at the mo. Very tempting though! But more likely to go for an OB-6 at around that price.

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Post by beedogs » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:36 am

this is like a moog mono/poly, people should be extremely excited about this

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Post by Christopher Winkels » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:45 am

I confess I'm not hearing anything here that's prompting me to crack open my wallet.

And it's shot like a 15 minute advert for personal hygiene products.
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Post by nectarios » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:46 am

Hermetech Mastering wrote:Looks and sounds amazing, don't think it's too expensive, but don't really need one at the mo. Very tempting though! But more likely to go for an OB-6 at around that price.
Exactly.

Also I find 2 pole filters to sound much better for poly sounds, most of the time anyway...but not always.

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Post by dubonaire » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:46 am

Kent wrote:Looks like the Lines forum finally got a promotional video catered precisely to the houseplant and cat set. :hihi:

I’m sure they’ll still find something to complain about though.
:yay:

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Post by starthief » Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:53 am

Kent wrote:Looks like the Lines forum finally got a promotional video catered precisely to the houseplant and cat set. :hihi:

I’m sure they’ll still find something to complain about though.
Nah, they will just continue to be puzzled by the weird delusions people have about Lines.

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Post by GNSDG » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:22 am

Super cool. I’m really big into stereo and this is an interesting take on paraphony.

I don’t really see the point in raising price criticisms because value is so subjective, but especially weird to compare this to fixed architecture polys. I see this being a great base that you can build on w/ other modular for full patches really easily/intuitively. But then, I like keyboards. A lot.
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Post by nangu » Thu Apr 25, 2019 6:46 am

What’s up with the panel art?

Mismatched Euro isn’t something that should be glorified, let alone faked with aggressively contrasting paint. Grayscale exists for a very good reason..

The most cynical part of me says that there will be a sweet-looking ‘all black’ version with a couple extra CV points for $800 more in a couple of years. It’ll be a limited-edition thing so everybody has to scramble for it, and all the people who bought this version will feel like they’ve been kicked square in the package.

I am disappointed that ‘cynical me’ is so frequently correct..

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Post by Hermetech Mastering » Thu Apr 25, 2019 7:03 am

nangu wrote:What’s up with the panel art?

Mismatched Euro isn’t something that should be glorified, let alone faked with aggressively contrasting paint. Grayscale exists for a very good reason..

The most cynical part of me says that there will be a sweet-looking ‘all black’ version with a couple extra CV points for $800 more in a couple of years. It’ll be a limited-edition thing so everybody has to scramble for it, and all the people who bought this version will feel like they’ve been kicked square in the package.

I am disappointed that ‘cynical me’ is so frequently correct..
Yes, must be a real pain having to judge so many others from the top of that ivory tower. :miley:

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