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Post by nectarios » Thu May 09, 2019 11:35 am

Osk wrote:[video][/video]

Sonicstate video on the Mimeophone
Sounds good. Very playful it seems too.
It has some nice processing in the delay line, what I wished the 4ms Looping Delay had. In some ways this module appears to be influenced by it.

I think they heard the people not having to have the pitch effect when rate changes, but they also kept that option from the Echophon.
They left out the pitch shifter, which the Echophon has, so as much as it feels its a successor to the Echophon, they made different enough.

Good module this. They do seem to replace the mono stuff with stereo.

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Post by coolshirtdotjpg » Thu May 09, 2019 11:36 am

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coolshirtdotjpg wrote: I'm sort of glad this is a new thing, none of the MK2s have made me want to get rid of my originals, but man, if I had waited until now, I could have gotten my shared system a lot cheaper, haha.
Tony said something in a Perfect Circuit demo of the QPAS along the lines of how QPAS didn't replace anything in the Shared System, but that it and other coming stereo modules (Xpan, now this) may call for a new, more stereo-oriented system. Wonder if we'll see Echophon replaced now that there is a more obvious successor or if this is the end of the Black and gold Shared System?
They've been changing the shared system for the better part of a decade, I think they'll keep changing it. I think that some of us have just settled into what we think of as MK1 shared systems. The new stuff is very dense and powerful, but the mk1 is very raw and immediate. I think that it will be linked to a certain period of time/musical style. They will definitely need to spend a lot of time thinking how an updated shared system will work as an instrument, as a lot of the character came from the limitations of the early modules.
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Post by Virgil » Thu May 09, 2019 12:03 pm

coolshirtdotjpg wrote:
They've been changing the shared system for the better part of a decade, I think they'll keep changing it.
About a month ago Tony said they consider the Shared System to be "complete" and thus are not going to change it.

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Post by tranter » Thu May 09, 2019 12:05 pm

Oh, what modules are in that Tape & Micro Sound Music Machine System?
Osk wrote:

Sonicstate video on the Mimeophone

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Post by coolshirtdotjpg » Thu May 09, 2019 12:56 pm

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They've been changing the shared system for the better part of a decade, I think they'll keep changing it.
About a month ago Tony said they consider the Shared System to be "complete" and thus are not going to change it.
So they are just going to keep producing echophons? That seems very doubtful. Their digital modules are nearing a decade old and DSP/general purpose chips have improved enormously in the past decade. It's pretty hard to imagine them selling a $4,500 system with out of date DSP (even though I like it) when they have brand new versions that they are probably producing at lower cost/greater reliability.
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Post by mdoudoroff » Thu May 09, 2019 12:57 pm

hawkfuzz wrote:Definitely. I don't think any company should do what they don't want to do, if they've moved beyond the ideas.

They did some REVs that were received well, so I thought it could be updated if they discontinued it, because it seemed to be a great seller, but I could be wrong.

I've fallen in love with scanning and love the way that it implemented the idea.
If MN is walking away from the RxMx concept, I wouldn’t be surprised to see somebody else step into the void. Seems to me there’s untapped potential there to explore.

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Post by hawkfuzz » Thu May 09, 2019 1:34 pm

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hawkfuzz wrote:Definitely. I don't think any company should do what they don't want to do, if they've moved beyond the ideas.

They did some REVs that were received well, so I thought it could be updated if they discontinued it, because it seemed to be a great seller, but I could be wrong.

I've fallen in love with scanning and love the way that it implemented the idea.
If MN is walking away from the RxMx concept, I wouldn’t be surprised to see somebody else step into the void. Seems to me there’s untapped potential there to explore.
Agreed. I've been using the Synapse for some time thinking that it was a successor the RxMx but it's a different beast with some crossover function, but implemented differently. The new Malekko VCA looks to have a blend of typical quad vcas and a scan function as well.

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Post by R.U.Nuts » Thu May 09, 2019 1:43 pm

coolshirtdotjpg wrote:
Virgil wrote:
coolshirtdotjpg wrote:
They've been changing the shared system for the better part of a decade, I think they'll keep changing it.
About a month ago Tony said they consider the Shared System to be "complete" and thus are not going to change it.
So they are just going to keep producing echophons? That seems very doubtful. Their digital modules are nearing a decade old and DSP/general purpose chips have improved enormously in the past decade. It's pretty hard to imagine them selling a $4,500 system with out of date DSP (even though I like it) when they have brand new versions that they are probably producing at lower cost/greater reliability.
Well, the DPO stems from technology that was available in the '60s and tape- and BBD delays aren't obsolete because of digital delays either. Maybe in a decade we'll see hyper modern DSP effects with Echophon emulation algorythms :zombie:

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Post by Virgil » Thu May 09, 2019 2:18 pm

coolshirtdotjpg wrote: So they are just going to keep producing echophons? That seems very doubtful. Their digital modules are nearing a decade old and DSP/general purpose chips have improved enormously in the past decade. It's pretty hard to imagine them selling a $4,500 system with out of date DSP (even though I like it) when they have brand new versions that they are probably producing at lower cost/greater reliability.
I agree. I remember Tony stressing what a different beast the MG is compared to the PG as part of the Shared System. It got swapped anyway. So I could imagine Echophon being next.

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Post by Junk Rhythm » Thu May 09, 2019 2:34 pm

coolshirtdotjpg wrote:
Virgil wrote:
coolshirtdotjpg wrote:
They've been changing the shared system for the better part of a decade, I think they'll keep changing it.
About a month ago Tony said they consider the Shared System to be "complete" and thus are not going to change it.
So they are just going to keep producing echophons? That seems very doubtful. Their digital modules are nearing a decade old and DSP/general purpose chips have improved enormously in the past decade. It's pretty hard to imagine them selling a $4,500 system with out of date DSP (even though I like it) when they have brand new versions that they are probably producing at lower cost/greater reliability.
What makes a DSP out of date? I'm still using an effects processor that I purchased new in 2004 and it still sounds miles ahead of most processors coming out today. It uses the same DSP that was found in the majority of virtual analogs, samplers, drum machines and effects processors from that era as well as in the late 90s. Folks still hunt for old tech to add that extra flare to their sound. DSPs were reliable then just as they are today. Analog as a technology is decades out of date and everyone still goes crazy for it. Rarely does anything new with technology translate to a different result musically. I do agree that they will eventually stop producing the Echophon (as well other modules) but those decisions will be driven by market saturation more than out of date technology. When the demand slows down too much, the production stops.
Virgil wrote:About a month ago Tony said they consider the Shared System to be "complete" and thus are not going to change it.
Nothing in modular is ever "complete" until the manufacturer goes out of business. As coolshirtdotjpg mentions, the Shared System has evolved with time. Evolution is what it takes to remain in business within the modular world and Make Noise has done a great job staying ahead of the curve.

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Post by pines » Thu May 09, 2019 3:58 pm

There were a lot of contortions to keep from calling it a delay.... I’m keeping my 2016 Shared System in its original state, other than the addition of brains and Tempi. I’m going to start a skiff to add in the new MN modules that I feel like I’ll gel with. I really do wish that they would do a few plain vanilla utility things and and some sort of 223e style touch controller though. I bought a B&G Ornament & Crime and loaded it with Hemispheres to fill in the gaps. The O&C will eventually live in the skiff.

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Post by southberry » Thu May 09, 2019 4:07 pm

So are they finally moving to full black and gold ? ....

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Post by ym2612 » Thu May 09, 2019 4:32 pm

Virgil wrote:I agree. I remember Tony stressing what a different beast the MG is compared to the PG as part of the Shared System. It got swapped anyway. So I could imagine Echophon being next.
They may not keep producing every module, but I like that they aren't just making v2.0 versions of older modules. An Echophon is still an Echophon and Mimeophone is not an Echophon, so there's not a direct path of obsolescence, even if people dropped Echophons like chopped liver as soon as Chronoblob (and later DLD) came out.

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Post by monoscan » Thu May 09, 2019 4:36 pm

Osk wrote:

Sonicstate video on the Mimeophone
I didn’t expect to see a video posted so quickly before MN made an official announcement. This looks incredible.

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Post by rew_ » Thu May 09, 2019 4:38 pm

pines wrote:There were a lot of contortions to keep from calling it a delay....
yeah "it is a stereo multi-zone color audio repeater" is really a galaxy-brain way of avoiding "it's an delay module"

I mean, it's a delay module that seems like it has some cool spice added in but it's definitely a delay module.
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Post by Virgil » Thu May 09, 2019 4:52 pm

southberry wrote:So are they finally moving to full black and gold ? ....
Yes. They stated a while ago there won't be silver panel versions of new modules.

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Post by forrest » Thu May 09, 2019 5:04 pm

Dayamm I love the design and ideas presented but it seems a little too chaotic for my purposes, very happy they're making everything black/gold.

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Post by cackland » Thu May 09, 2019 5:05 pm

rew_ wrote:
pines wrote:There were a lot of contortions to keep from calling it a delay....
yeah "it is a stereo multi-zone color audio repeater" is really a galaxy-brain way of avoiding "it's an delay module"

I mean, it's a delay module that seems like it has some cool spice added in but it's definitely a delay module.
Id probably classify this as the successor of echophon, in more ways than one.

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Post by ym2612 » Thu May 09, 2019 5:26 pm

rew_ wrote:yeah "it is a stereo multi-zone color audio repeater" is really a galaxy-brain way of avoiding "it's an delay module"
Yeah, that's Make Noise for you. :hihi:

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Post by pedalhead » Thu May 09, 2019 5:33 pm

southberry wrote:So are they finally moving to full black and gold ? ....
yet they still refuse to sell you a black panel for modules you already have that are now produced in black.

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Post by nios » Thu May 09, 2019 5:39 pm

Did they say anything about price/availability? Don't recall hearing it yet in the couple vids posted. Got my :75: ready..

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Post by starthief » Thu May 09, 2019 5:41 pm

ym2612 wrote:
rew_ wrote:yeah "it is a stereo multi-zone color audio repeater" is really a galaxy-brain way of avoiding "it's an delay module"
Yeah, that's Make Noise for you. :hihi:
I was waiting to see if Walker managed to get through the whole thing without saying "delay" at all. He didn't quite. :mrgreen:
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Post by Parnelli » Thu May 09, 2019 5:43 pm

Dang, now I'm bummed because I was thinking about another stereo processor and now there's this! I'll have to rethink things now!

I really love working in a stereo field. I got started with my Disting mk4 and the ping pong delay. I use a 2hp Verb to create lush deep stereo fields of drone that I like to bounce things around it, so I picked up a WMD SSF DPLR and really like it as well, but I'm looking for one more device to tie it all together, this might just be it!

Anxiously awaiting videos, but I already like what I heard on the Superbooth video... :tu:

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Post by mother misty » Thu May 09, 2019 5:44 pm

nios wrote:Did they say anything about price/availability? Don't recall hearing it yet in the couple vids posted. Got my :75: ready..
Nothing on the price yet, Walker did mention pre-orders start at the end of the month and shipping end of summer.

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