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Instruo Lúbadh stereo looper
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Author Instruo Lúbadh stereo looper
mdoudoroff


Consisting of two identical channels Lúbadh allows you to instantly record, playback, overdub, trim down, scan through and pitch up or down any audio signal.

Inspired by the aesthetics and mechanics of early tape techniques each channel features an analogue input circuit which adds slight compression, filtering and saturation. On the first recording, the sound may appear slightly fuller and warmer,
re-recording audio back and forth will compound this effect over time allowing you to create dense tape like textures.

Lúbadh | ˈluːbɑː | verb (willow weaving) loop, link, coil, twist, bend; meander of a river, to be fond of, wrapped up in

2 channel looper
96kHz/24bit recording (32 bit internal processing)
Tape response inspired analogue input circuit
LED display for playback speed, length and position
Over five minutes record time per channel (more than 375 feet of tape at 15ips)
Varispeed –/+ 4x speed
Link switch for stereo looping
Delay capabilities
Clock divider output
VCA controlled auxiliary input/output crossfading
Looping or one-shot playback capabilities
Load/save functionality
Included 2HP CV expander for CV over everything

https://www.instruomodular.com/product/lubadh/

https://www.modulargrid.net/e/instruo-lubadh
mdoudoroff
2HP expander cry

Nutritional Zero
Interesting no microSD card option...

Edit: looks stunning though, I should be clear.
mdoudoroff
Yes, it’s explicitly for live/performance use. No storage.
Virgil
blah
Muse FTW
I saw a small clip of it in action (just visual, no audio) and it is one of the coolest LED designs I've seen in a while.
Fayette
This looks very nice! Curious what it will cost..
thisisvictorkim
mdoudoroff wrote:
Yes, it’s explicitly for live/performance use. No storage.

Any idea if sounds recorded into the Lubadh will remain in the buffer when it's powered down?
Futuresound
Load/save functionality is listed as a feature, we’ll have to wait to see what that means I guess.
cackland
Keeping my eye on this one for sure.
mdoudoroff
thisisvictorkim wrote:
mdoudoroff wrote:
Yes, it’s explicitly for live/performance use. No storage.

Any idea if sounds recorded into the Lubadh will remain in the buffer when it's powered down?


Dunno. Jason’s own product description says “load/save functionality” so maybe there is some persistence system? At Scneidersladen he created the impression it was only for dynamic use.
DSC
Getting this!!!!
synonymist
mdoudoroff wrote:

Consisting of two identical channels Lúbadh allows you to instantly record, playback, overdub, trim down, scan through and pitch up or down any audio signal...


It looks interesting. I wonder if it will include a manual.
Gripp
Yup. Looks very interesting indeed. Seems to tick all my boxes for a looper except possibly one. I do need to be able to play and record in reverse. Hoping for that possibility.
joem
mdoudoroff wrote:
2HP expander cry


from the site (emphasis mine):

Quote:
Included 2HP CV expander
Ras Thavas
In one of the videos they mentioned it was originally designed for on-the-fly looping only, no save or load, but then this functionality was added later in development. Could work whether way for me...
MindMachine
I could send my Geiskes VoiceRecorder 2 into one channel and my Noise Reap ISD sampler into another and have samply mayhem.

Superbooth is blowing my mind.
ludotex
I tried it at superbooth. It was my favorite module of the show. The display is very nice. Seems like you can use the module as a delay as well. I didnt understand all the features but what i got was really neat. Also the people from instruo are super nice smile looking forward to get one.
vidret
I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more discussion. Double looper with solid interface in a 20 hp space.

Might end up making room for this, looks incredible.
sukyaneer
Jason told me last week that he was considering attaching a small SD card underneath the module to store samples and sessions in, so that'll help with regards to storage. I had a quick play with it and first impressions were great! A beautiful interface with many possibilities!

Looking forward to playing with this soon too!
MrNezumi
As far as functionality goes, this seems almost the same as 4MS' Stereo Trigger Sampler.
Virusinstaller
I love the visual image of the tape rolls.
Jut perfect for this module.
digidandy
MrNezumi wrote:
As far as functionality goes, this seems almost the same as 4MS' Stereo Trigger Sampler.


Except for three important things: pitch control, saturation/degradation and easy access to scrub. And resampling from channel to channel.

So, four?
jmax313
The faceplate is so cool

Any idea on price?
bc3
jmax313 wrote:
The faceplate is so cool

Any idea on price?


He mentioned 430 pounds i think on the Sonic State video.
pieter
I would say Instruo is hands down the manufacturer with the most attractive module aestetic right now. The innovative use of LEDs interacting with the panel is inspiring. I also love the blank panels with simplified module manual schematics shown in the Superbooth 19 video.
mdoudoroff
Unless I missed an actual, solid demo, we unfortunately don’t have much to go on except the sexy looks and the basic walkthrough.

The ideas and interface seem neat, but I need to see it in some musical context.
jmax313
bc3 wrote:
jmax313 wrote:
The faceplate is so cool

Any idea on price?


He mentioned 430 pounds i think on the Sonic State video.


Thanks!

mdoudoroff wrote:
Unless I missed an actual, solid demo, we unfortunately don’t have much to go on except the sexy looks and the basic walkthrough.

The ideas and interface seem neat, but I need to see it in some musical context.


Agreed, would like to see one as well.
pieter
Here is a performance/demo at Schneidersladen:

radin
The best demo i've found but really needs a better walk through

(alt+y)


mdoudoroff wrote:
Unless I missed an actual, solid demo, we unfortunately don’t have much to go on except the sexy looks and the basic walkthrough.

The ideas and interface seem neat, but I need to see it in some musical context.
koyl
I don't see how the feedback amount is handled, which is a bit confusing for a looper with overdub capabilities... seriously, i just don't get it
Anyone who tried it know more about this ?
taylor12k
i really really really hope the pitch knobs are quantized (or have the option to be) so we're not hunting down octaves like the old days on the phonogene...
Futuresound
FFT analysis on the input is very smart, and very interesting.
mdoudoroff
Still no music, but a superior walkthrough and better audio:

saemola
Such a perfect interface.
Jason, are there “hacks” to create splices and to time stretch independently from the pitch ala Morphagene?
knifey
digidandy wrote:
MrNezumi wrote:
As far as functionality goes, this seems almost the same as 4MS' Stereo Trigger Sampler.


Except for three important things: pitch control, saturation/degradation and easy access to scrub. And resampling from channel to channel.

So, four?


And overdubbing as well? One reason I didn't go for the STS was because it couldn't overdub on an existing loop. I kept my Timefactor as my main looper for that reason. And the fact that the TF can also do overdub or replace, for some amazing sample collaging.

Might have to ask Jason if he can implement that into the module (overdub or replace), and if so, definitely busting out my extra skiff for it.
vidret
koyl wrote:
I don't see how the feedback amount is handled, which is a bit confusing for a looper with overdub capabilities... seriously, i just don't get it
Anyone who tried it know more about this ?


Also interested in how/if feedback is handled.


It said it had ‘delay features’ or something like it, so it’s in there somewhere.
Maybe you self-patch the out to the AUX in. Then the AUX in slider is feedback and AUX out your out. Maybe? razz
koyl
vidret wrote:
koyl wrote:
I don't see how the feedback amount is handled, which is a bit confusing for a looper with overdub capabilities... seriously, i just don't get it
Anyone who tried it know more about this ?


Also interested in how/if feedback is handled.


It said it had ‘delay features’ or something like it, so it’s in there somewhere.
Maybe you self-patch the out to the AUX in. Then the AUX in slider is feedback and AUX out your out. Maybe? razz


Or maybe the out is normalized to the Aux in so it acts like this when nothing is plugged in the aux.. That would be even better. cool
vidret
I watched the demo and it seems the AUX in slider goes from inserting the right or the left channel back in when set to the right or left.

Is the middle 0 volume? So many questions.
sasbom
This module will be amazing. I always find myself repeatedly playing the same pattern, so recording it in a looper would make a lot of sense. Does this do overdub as well? That'd be groundbreaking!

I've been searching for something like this for a while now but it just doesnt exist!

Big hype!
natureclubcassettes
radin wrote:
The best demo i've found but really needs a better walk through

(alt+y)


mdoudoroff wrote:
Unless I missed an actual, solid demo, we unfortunately don’t have much to go on except the sexy looks and the basic walkthrough.

The ideas and interface seem neat, but I need to see it in some musical context.


hopefully it comes stocked with the thompson twins as well
MindMachine
^ Deal breaker.

This looks like a pretty straightforward looper. Very interested in this one.

What is the HP on this thing? I don't see that anywhere.
mdoudoroff
I asked Jason about precisely recording within a beat structure, and here’s what he said:

Quote:
At present the solution for precise record control is implemented as latching buttons where you tap it to begin recording or to over dub, and momentary/gate control via the input jack.
I have found that to be the most versatile for sequencing overdub and recording control.
It will record or overdub as long as there is a high gate seen at the jack.
An idea I have had to test in software is ‘rec enable’ control via the button. Ideally the module would know if there is a cable patched to the control jacks and the button behaviour would change to rec enable. However that is not so simple a fix. Consistent jack insert sensing can be done a couple of ways, but would be extensive in revision.

From playing with the prototypes, the simplest control implementation of high gate == recording, low == playback, is the quickest and easiest to navigate and is very versatile when using either slow gate signals or even using a sequencer with steps high for rec/overdub periods.


He also mentioned that firmware updates were via SD card on the back.
Sunden
sasbom wrote:
This module will be amazing. I always find myself repeatedly playing the same pattern, so recording it in a looper would make a lot of sense. Does this do overdub as well? That'd be groundbreaking!

I've been searching for something like this for a while now but it just doesnt exist!

Big hype!


You might be interested in checking out Mannequins W/. It is a completely different module in some regards, and very similar to Lubadh in others (especially if you have two W/s). The interface is radically different, but it might intrigue you! Really depends on what you are looking for in terms of interface and how much HP/$$ you are looking to dedicate to your looper.
bc3
Sunden wrote:
sasbom wrote:
This module will be amazing. I always find myself repeatedly playing the same pattern, so recording it in a looper would make a lot of sense. Does this do overdub as well? That'd be groundbreaking!

I've been searching for something like this for a while now but it just doesnt exist!

Big hype!


You might be interested in checking out Mannequins W/. It is a completely different module in some regards, and very similar to Lubadh in others (especially if you have two W/s). The interface is radically different, but it might intrigue you! Really depends on what you are looking for in terms of interface and how much HP/$$ you are looking to dedicate to your looper.


IMO Mannequins W/ is a disaster in UI design but the sandwich'd 2HP circuit board design is impressive. The only similarity between W/ and Lubadh is that they have audio buffers that play back audio. Don't waste you time with W/ but if you are into cryptic manuals, riddles and poetry go for it! hihi
Zymos
If you want to record quantized to beats, having a clock input makes things much easier. This only has clock outs?
mdoudoroff
Zymos wrote:
If you want to record quantized to beats, having a clock input makes things much easier. This only has clock outs?


Short answer, yes. Slightly longer answer:

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3064064#3064064
cackland
MindMachine wrote:
^ Deal breaker.

This looks like a pretty straightforward looper. Very interested in this one.

What is the HP on this thing? I don't see that anywhere.


20HP according to modular grid
Sunden
bc3 wrote:
Sunden wrote:
sasbom wrote:
This module will be amazing. I always find myself repeatedly playing the same pattern, so recording it in a looper would make a lot of sense. Does this do overdub as well? That'd be groundbreaking!

I've been searching for something like this for a while now but it just doesnt exist!

Big hype!


You might be interested in checking out Mannequins W/. It is a completely different module in some regards, and very similar to Lubadh in others (especially if you have two W/s). The interface is radically different, but it might intrigue you! Really depends on what you are looking for in terms of interface and how much HP/$$ you are looking to dedicate to your looper.


IMO Mannequins W/ is a disaster in UI design but the sandwich'd 2HP circuit board design is impressive. The only similarity between W/ and Lubadh is that they have audio buffers that play back audio. Don't waste you time with W/ but if you are into cryptic manuals, riddles and poetry go for it! hihi


I think there is more to it than that!

They both allow you to:

- Linearly control tape playback speed in both directions (only via CV with W/)
- Overdub or overwrite tape
- Set up decaying looping feedback/be used as a delay unit (although it looks a little more complicated with Lubadh than with W/)
- Trim loops (though it's less immediate on W/ and not done dynamically w/ CV)
- Both provide clock outputs (using W/s latest firmware update)
- Both provide feedback on loop position (Lubadh using LEDs, W/ using CV ramps - latest firmware)
- Store persistent audio between power cycles (believe it is 6.5 min for Lubadh, >5 hrs for w/)
- Reset to the start of a loop using triggers (W/ can also advance to previous or subsequent loops using an offest mixed with a trigger - I believe this is the "retrig" input on Lubadh)

Probably more I am leaving out, but there are definitely a lot of similarities! Like I said, radically different interfaces, but it is more than just sharing the use of an audio buffer.

The original poster simply mentioned that they wanted to be able to store and record a longer loop of audio, so I do think it is relevant as a suggestion to them!
Sunden
mdoudoroff wrote:
Zymos wrote:
If you want to record quantized to beats, having a clock input makes things much easier. This only has clock outs?


Short answer, yes. Slightly longer answer:

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3064064#3064064


Looks like the retrig input could also be used to synchronize jumping to the start of a loop and turning on the recording gate, no?
bc3
Zymos wrote:
If you want to record quantized to beats, having a clock input makes things much easier. This only has clock outs?


The way I assume quantized recording will work is similar in the way I do it on the ER-301. Use a divided clock signal say from something like Pam's set at the division that matches up with the length you want your loop to be. Send this trigger into the retrigger input and it will fire the loop off in time with the rest of your system. A clock input is really not needed and I always achieve perfectly synced loops on the 301 using this method.
2disbetter
This and the Medusa 2.0 update were what I found to be the most interesting this year at Superbooth. Granted I haven't gone through all of the SB videos yet. Lots of great stuff as usual!
Sinamsis
Any updates on this one? Do we have an ETA?
akavalve
Does this cover any ground that the Morphagene doesn't?
Sinamsis
akavalve wrote:
Does this cover any ground that the Morphagene doesn't?


The biggest thing other than workflow for me is that the two sides can be used individually. But I’m basically asking myself this question.
10 Miles High
Gonna watch this thread. Totally looks like the looper I was dreaming of.


10 Mh
Johnnyfive
I've been using both the DLD and morphagene to loop guitar, and each has its strengths and weaknesses.

This looks pretty much perfect in terms of filling in the gaps, and looks like it will end up replacing the DLD.

Really excited about this, and keen for any more info on release date.
akavalve
Johnnyfive wrote:
I've been using both the DLD and morphagene to loop guitar, and each has its strengths and weaknesses.

This looks pretty much perfect in terms of filling in the gaps, and looks like it will end up replacing the DLD.

Really excited about this, and keen for any more info on release date.


I've got both as well. What are those gaps for you specifically? This module looks really quite nice but I'm having trouble getting my head around what it adds in the context of a Morphagene and a DLD.
Johnnyfive
akavalve wrote:

I've got both as well. What are those gaps for you specifically? This module looks really quite nice but I'm having trouble getting my head around what it adds in the context of a Morphagene and a DLD.


good question! with the DLD, i use a footswitch to turn hold on or off so that I can overdub onto a loop, but it would be really nice to set the initial loop length by using a footswitch (i.e. press once to record, and once more to end loop). also, being able to retrigger a loop would be nice. you can do these things on the morphagene, but it's obviously only one channel. the other thing i find tricky with the DLD is that because you don't know where the "start" of the loop is (without looking at the LED), doing manipulations like changing loop length can have slightly unpredictable results.

You're right that it wouldn't add much functionality that the morphagene doesn't already provide, but I tend to use my morphagene for more creative stuff, as it feels like a bit of a waste to use it just for straight loop playback. and obviously lubadh is two channels in the same space as the morphagene.
akavalve
Johnnyfive wrote:
akavalve wrote:

I've got both as well. What are those gaps for you specifically? This module looks really quite nice but I'm having trouble getting my head around what it adds in the context of a Morphagene and a DLD.


good question! with the DLD, i use a footswitch to turn hold on or off so that I can overdub onto a loop, but it would be really nice to set the initial loop length by using a footswitch (i.e. press once to record, and once more to end loop). also, being able to retrigger a loop would be nice. you can do these things on the morphagene, but it's obviously only one channel. the other thing i find tricky with the DLD is that because you don't know where the "start" of the loop is (without looking at the LED), doing manipulations like changing loop length can have slightly unpredictable results.

You're right that it wouldn't add much functionality that the morphagene doesn't already provide, but I tend to use my morphagene for more creative stuff, as it feels like a bit of a waste to use it just for straight loop playback. and obviously lubadh is two channels in the same space as the morphagene.


Cool. That makes sense. Thanks for the detail.

Guess we'll see what the final price is...seems like it might actually be up there with the Morphagene.
gringostar
Would love to know if there are any plans to have the speed accept v/oct control.
BlinkyLights
Gripp wrote:
Yup. Looks very interesting indeed. Seems to tick all my boxes for a looper except possibly one. I do need to be able to play and record in reverse. Hoping for that possibility.

Record in reverse?
BlinkyLights
Sunden wrote:
bc3 wrote:
Sunden wrote:
sasbom wrote:
This module will be amazing. I always find myself repeatedly playing the same pattern, so recording it in a looper would make a lot of sense. Does this do overdub as well? That'd be groundbreaking!

I've been searching for something like this for a while now but it just doesnt exist!

Big hype!


You might be interested in checking out Mannequins W/. It is a completely different module in some regards, and very similar to Lubadh in others (especially if you have two W/s). The interface is radically different, but it might intrigue you! Really depends on what you are looking for in terms of interface and how much HP/$$ you are looking to dedicate to your looper.


IMO Mannequins W/ is a disaster in UI design but the sandwich'd 2HP circuit board design is impressive. The only similarity between W/ and Lubadh is that they have audio buffers that play back audio. Don't waste you time with W/ but if you are into cryptic manuals, riddles and poetry go for it! hihi


I think there is more to it than that!

They both allow you to:

- Linearly control tape playback speed in both directions (only via CV with W/)
- Overdub or overwrite tape
- Set up decaying looping feedback/be used as a delay unit (although it looks a little more complicated with Lubadh than with W/)
- Trim loops (though it's less immediate on W/ and not done dynamically w/ CV)
- Both provide clock outputs (using W/s latest firmware update)
- Both provide feedback on loop position (Lubadh using LEDs, W/ using CV ramps - latest firmware)
- Store persistent audio between power cycles (believe it is 6.5 min for Lubadh, >5 hrs for w/)
- Reset to the start of a loop using triggers (W/ can also advance to previous or subsequent loops using an offest mixed with a trigger - I believe this is the "retrig" input on Lubadh)

Probably more I am leaving out, but there are definitely a lot of similarities! Like I said, radically different interfaces, but it is more than just sharing the use of an audio buffer.

The original poster simply mentioned that they wanted to be able to store and record a longer loop of audio, so I do think it is relevant as a suggestion to them!

Interesting. Thanks for spelling that out.
BlinkyLights
bc3 wrote:
Zymos wrote:
If you want to record quantized to beats, having a clock input makes things much easier. This only has clock outs?


The way I assume quantized recording will work is similar in the way I do it on the ER-301. Use a divided clock signal say from something like Pam's set at the division that matches up with the length you want your loop to be. Send this trigger into the retrigger input and it will fire the loop off in time with the rest of your system. A clock input is really not needed and I always achieve perfectly synced loops on the 301 using this method.

That's cool. Thanks for that...
2disbetter
Has anyone gotten one of these? I love this module. The design of the UI is top notch as well.
krell
2disbetter wrote:
Has anyone gotten one of these? I love this module. The design of the UI is top notch as well.


It's not out yet, we're eagerly awaiting its arrival smile
cackland
There hasn’t even been a release date announced
indexofmetals
at Superbooth they said definitely before the end of the year.

Both of the modules sounded fantastic and I've already requested them from the family for my Christmas stocking. I really want to use them for sound on sound but I hope it doesn't have the abrupt clips I get with the magneto (and the Volente) and sounds more like SOS on my tape delays.
bibleblack
Fingers crossed this will be at Leeds modular meet, be amazing to see it
2disbetter
Is anyone aware of a recent video of this? I saw the Divkid Superbooth video, which was great, but I'm wondering if there is anything else since then?
Sandrine
Wow that is a nice lookin' looper! I can't help but think the Reflex LiveLoop had some influence on the functionality. Well done!
mkdvb
Sunden wrote:
bc3 wrote:
Sunden wrote:
sasbom wrote:
This module will be amazing. I always find myself repeatedly playing the same pattern, so recording it in a looper would make a lot of sense. Does this do overdub as well? That'd be groundbreaking!

I've been searching for something like this for a while now but it just doesnt exist!

Big hype!


You might be interested in checking out Mannequins W/. It is a completely different module in some regards, and very similar to Lubadh in others (especially if you have two W/s). The interface is radically different, but it might intrigue you! Really depends on what you are looking for in terms of interface and how much HP/$$ you are looking to dedicate to your looper.


IMO Mannequins W/ is a disaster in UI design but the sandwich'd 2HP circuit board design is impressive. The only similarity between W/ and Lubadh is that they have audio buffers that play back audio. Don't waste you time with W/ but if you are into cryptic manuals, riddles and poetry go for it! hihi


I think there is more to it than that!

They both allow you to:

- Linearly control tape playback speed in both directions (only via CV with W/)
- Overdub or overwrite tape
- Set up decaying looping feedback/be used as a delay unit (although it looks a little more complicated with Lubadh than with W/)
- Trim loops (though it's less immediate on W/ and not done dynamically w/ CV)
- Both provide clock outputs (using W/s latest firmware update)
- Both provide feedback on loop position (Lubadh using LEDs, W/ using CV ramps - latest firmware)
- Store persistent audio between power cycles (believe it is 6.5 min for Lubadh, >5 hrs for w/)
- Reset to the start of a loop using triggers (W/ can also advance to previous or subsequent loops using an offest mixed with a trigger - I believe this is the "retrig" input on Lubadh)

Probably more I am leaving out, but there are definitely a lot of similarities! Like I said, radically different interfaces, but it is more than just sharing the use of an audio buffer.

The original poster simply mentioned that they wanted to be able to store and record a longer loop of audio, so I do think it is relevant as a suggestion to them!


This is exactly the choice I'm weighing up. I have a small 4u 104hp box that already has Magneto in it. I'm putting together another small-ish box, probably 60HP around the Radikal EFFEXX module. I love messing with my old Marantz tape recorder so the promise of a tape module that promises close to the same sound + modern convenience is so enticing + CV mangleability.

But love the idea of the new box with a W/ being more of a playable instrument + 10x smaller + half price. Plus devoting 50HP of my 164HP just to tape delays seems excessive!

Am worried about that UI though & how hard it may be to retain all the commands. Already got too many modules that require cheat sheets as it is.
wvrm
This looks extremely tempting. I'd been eyeing up a Morphagene, but the Make Noise UI is just so unappealing to me, while Instruo nails it.
Funky40
watching Bens Video again, at 2:34 you see Jason adjust the tape position.
It seems to have kind of an "acceleration" built in ( not familiar with Tapes myself )


if my impression on the above is correct:
What would be absolutely amazing to have is a own pot/parameter to adjust that acelleration behave !!
help we're not worthy help


if this works out from a programmers side of things, would "i" put it in there,
and sacrificing that amount of space and work if needed ( ......goes now to church to start a candle or two / .....please please
please )


please vote with a: +1, everybody

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA4Bhj6ODOw
guigui
wvrm wrote:
This looks extremely tempting. I'd been eyeing up a Morphagene, but the Make Noise UI is just so unappealing to me, while Instruo nails it.


Isn't Morphagene more like Instruo Arbhar ?
Ray Finkle
bc3 wrote:
Zymos wrote:
If you want to record quantized to beats, having a clock input makes things much easier. This only has clock outs?


The way I assume quantized recording will work is similar in the way I do it on the ER-301. Use a divided clock signal say from something like Pam's set at the division that matches up with the length you want your loop to be. Send this trigger into the retrigger input and it will fire the loop off in time with the rest of your system. A clock input is really not needed and I always achieve perfectly synced loops on the 301 using this method.


This makes me happy. Was a bit confused as to how it would work. thumbs up
hyper
Johnnyfive
anyone have an update on this? is it still heading for a release by end of the year?
mdoudoroff
Newsletter alert says dealer pre-sales begin tomorrow, so it looks like Jason is pretty much on track.

Quick start:
https://www.instruomodular.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Lubadh-Quick start.pdf
bc3
CAPACITIVE TOUCH PLATE ?! that looks like a new addition?
red-tin-dave
very tempted by this - looks like modular Frippertronics

.. and should be out just in time for christmas
Just another rookie
It’s happening.......

Lubadh is on its way!
R.U.Nuts
mdoudoroff wrote:
Newsletter alert says dealer pre-sales begin tomorrow, so it looks like Jason is pretty much on track.

Quick start:
https://www.instruomodular.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Lubadh-Quick start.pdf


So it seems like there is no start/stop transport control at all and the retrigger button has no corresponding trigger input? waah
jwm
R.U.Nuts wrote:
mdoudoroff wrote:
Newsletter alert says dealer pre-sales begin tomorrow, so it looks like Jason is pretty much on track.

Quick start:
https://www.instruomodular.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Lubadh-Quick start.pdf


So it seems like there is no start/stop transport control at all and the retrigger button has no corresponding trigger input? waah


start cv is on the expander, and there is a retrig in right in the middle of the module
gringostar
jwm wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
mdoudoroff wrote:
Newsletter alert says dealer pre-sales begin tomorrow, so it looks like Jason is pretty much on track.

Quick start:
https://www.instruomodular.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Lubadh-Quick start.pdf


So it seems like there is no start/stop transport control at all and the retrigger button has no corresponding trigger input? waah


start cv is on the expander, and there is a retrig in right in the middle of the module


Both the Lúbadh and Arbhar seem like they pretty much require the expander so it's a good thing they come included with the module.
mdoudoroff
Pre-order up at Control, $579, expected December delivery

https://www.ctrl-mod.com/products/lubadh
R.U.Nuts
jwm wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
mdoudoroff wrote:
Newsletter alert says dealer pre-sales begin tomorrow, so it looks like Jason is pretty much on track.

Quick start:
https://www.instruomodular.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Lubadh-Quick start.pdf


So it seems like there is no start/stop transport control at all and the retrigger button has no corresponding trigger input? waah


start cv is on the expander, and there is a retrig in right in the middle of the module


OK, thanks. I overlooked that retrigger input. That's great. Start CV seems to adress the start position to which the playback will jump when a retrigger occurs, right? But what I meant is there's no trigger input to simply start and stop playback.
jwm
R.U.Nuts wrote:
jwm wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
mdoudoroff wrote:
Newsletter alert says dealer pre-sales begin tomorrow, so it looks like Jason is pretty much on track.

Quick start:
https://www.instruomodular.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Lubadh-Quick start.pdf


So it seems like there is no start/stop transport control at all and the retrigger button has no corresponding trigger input? waah


start cv is on the expander, and there is a retrig in right in the middle of the module


OK, thanks. I overlooked that retrigger input. That's great. Start CV seems to adress the start position to which the playback will jump when a retrigger occurs, right? But what I meant is there's no trigger input to simply start and stop playback.


ah gotcha
(EDIT nevermind, just re-read the quickstart)
matttech
red-tin-dave wrote:
very tempted by this - looks like modular Frippertronics

.. and should be out just in time for christmas


we can but hope! smile
Johnnyfive
I'm curious about the looper button combinations shown in the quickstart guide - do you need to do the combo every time or just to set the mode? I'd like to link the record button up to a footswitch, but if it needs a combo button press each time that might not work...
sendepause
I would love a looper in my setup and preferable in my smaller 6U setup.
I’m trying to warp my head around how to implement one and I was wondering how you guys would do it.
My idea would that preferable would have some kind of aux mixer so you can route your sounds to the looper and such.
Atm i’m using a 4x2 matrix mixer as an aux sent to two fx lines. No loopers though.

Am I missing something....
gringostar
I'm curious about the speed input and how hard it would be to quantize it to 1/2 and x2 speed recording and playback, or if it is quantized to v/oct.
interpolate
Does anyone know if this is capable of doing real time tape stop type effects?

I am not sure if you can tell it to record, playback, and pitch shift at the same time basically.
bc3
interpolate wrote:
Does anyone know if this is capable of doing real time tape stop type effects?

I am not sure if you can tell it to record, playback, and pitch shift at the same time basically.


Yes, examples I have seen appear to make this type of effect possible.
R.U.Nuts
sendepause wrote:
I would love a looper in my setup and preferable in my smaller 6U setup.
I’m trying to warp my head around how to implement one and I was wondering how you guys would do it.
My idea would that preferable would have some kind of aux mixer so you can route your sounds to the looper and such.
Atm i’m using a 4x2 matrix mixer as an aux sent to two fx lines. No loopers though.

Am I missing something....


I have my 4MS DLD connected to the monitor outputs of my mixing desk. So I can record any channel on my mixer by pressing the PFL buttons. The DLD is not a looper in a traditional sense but it works great creating synced loops from anything that goes into my mixer.

I'm still tempted to replace the DLD with that Instruo module because of the reset trigger input and the possibilities of scrubbing and pitching loops. Features I miss on the DLD. On the other hand it's just so simple and straight forward to do synced loops with the DLD that I might just stick with it.
sendepause
R.U.Nuts wrote:
sendepause wrote:
I would love a looper in my setup and preferable in my smaller 6U setup.
I’m trying to warp my head around how to implement one and I was wondering how you guys would do it.
My idea would that preferable would have some kind of aux mixer so you can route your sounds to the looper and such.
Atm i’m using a 4x2 matrix mixer as an aux sent to two fx lines. No loopers though.

Am I missing something....


I have my 4MS DLD connected to the monitor outputs of my mixing desk. So I can record any channel on my mixer by pressing the PFL buttons. The DLD is not a looper in a traditional sense but it works great creating synced loops from anything that goes into my mixer.

I'm still tempted to replace the DLD with that Instruo module because of the reset trigger input and the possibilities of scrubbing and pitching loops. Features I miss on the DLD. On the other hand it's just so simple and straight forward to do synced loops with the DLD that I might just stick with it.


Wow, mind blowen! Great solution. Come to think of it, this could also be used with headphone outputs and pfl...
jwm
one thing i feel compelled to mention here, especially as there is a lot of talk re: overdub and swapping out the DLD, etc...is that overdub here doesn't necessarily mean sound on sound layering. in an april video (it its possible is changed since then, he did add the capacitive touch plate after all) he mentions the overdub being destructive...which i took to mean how recording on a tape loop would work if you weren't defeating the erase head...so again perhaps its worth waiting to read the full manual as to how this functionality actually works...

unless someone has evidence to the contrary...please share!
LongLostDonut
You can scrub on the DLD... from the manual:

When Infinite Hold is on, the Feedback and Delay Feed parameters have no meaning since they are effectively at 100% and 0%. However, the Feedback knob and CV jack have been given a special purpose when Infinite Hold is on: Windowing, also known as scrolling or scrubbing.



R.U.Nuts wrote:

I have my 4MS DLD connected to the monitor outputs of my mixing desk. So I can record any channel on my mixer by pressing the PFL buttons. The DLD is not a looper in a traditional sense but it works great creating synced loops from anything that goes into my mixer.

I'm still tempted to replace the DLD with that Instruo module because of the reset trigger input and the possibilities of scrubbing and pitching loops. Features I miss on the DLD. On the other hand it's just so simple and straight forward to do synced loops with the DLD that I might just stick with it.
R.U.Nuts
LongLostDonut wrote:
You can scrub on the DLD... from the manual:

When Infinite Hold is on, the Feedback and Delay Feed parameters have no meaning since they are effectively at 100% and 0%. However, the Feedback knob and CV jack have been given a special purpose when Infinite Hold is on: Windowing, also known as scrolling or scrubbing.



R.U.Nuts wrote:

I have my 4MS DLD connected to the monitor outputs of my mixing desk. So I can record any channel on my mixer by pressing the PFL buttons. The DLD is not a looper in a traditional sense but it works great creating synced loops from anything that goes into my mixer.

I'm still tempted to replace the DLD with that Instruo module because of the reset trigger input and the possibilities of scrubbing and pitching loops. Features I miss on the DLD. On the other hand it's just so simple and straight forward to do synced loops with the DLD that I might just stick with it.

Oh, wow. Thanks. I remembered that one wrong. I thought you had to press some complicated button combo to achieve this...
R.U.Nuts
sendepause wrote:
R.U.Nuts wrote:
sendepause wrote:
I would love a looper in my setup and preferable in my smaller 6U setup.
I’m trying to warp my head around how to implement one and I was wondering how you guys would do it.
My idea would that preferable would have some kind of aux mixer so you can route your sounds to the looper and such.
Atm i’m using a 4x2 matrix mixer as an aux sent to two fx lines. No loopers though.

Am I missing something....


I have my 4MS DLD connected to the monitor outputs of my mixing desk. So I can record any channel on my mixer by pressing the PFL buttons. The DLD is not a looper in a traditional sense but it works great creating synced loops from anything that goes into my mixer.

I'm still tempted to replace the DLD with that Instruo module because of the reset trigger input and the possibilities of scrubbing and pitching loops. Features I miss on the DLD. On the other hand it's just so simple and straight forward to do synced loops with the DLD that I might just stick with it.


Wow, mind blowen! Great solution. Come to think of it, this could also be used with headphone outputs and pfl...

Yes, using the headphone outs should also be possible.
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