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Gongs, because they rule! Let's talk about gongs!

Post by JohnLRice » Thu May 23, 2019 1:52 am

Just redid my gong holder in my studio, so I'm excited! :hyper: :hihi:

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Post by Rex Coil 7 » Thu May 23, 2019 1:57 am

JohnLRice wrote:Just redid my gong holder in my studio, so I'm excited! :hyper: :hihi:

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WOW!! That turned out very nice! Clever use of black pipe threaded fittings too!

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Post by cptnal » Thu May 23, 2019 2:13 am

You've reminded me to pick up a gong holder next time I'm in Tesco.

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Post by Idunno » Thu May 23, 2019 2:19 am

Mmm! Nice gong setup.

I've built wooden stands for mine. They all stack together in a nest.

Collecting gongs is a dangerous thing. You want a full set. What is a full set?

I'll settle for the five gongs I have and collect a full set of flumis.

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Post by nullpunkt » Thu May 23, 2019 4:58 am

Pictures do not sound. Let us hear!
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Post by Wracked with Guilt » Thu May 23, 2019 8:34 am

nullpunkt wrote:Pictures do not sound. Let us hear!
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Post by Panason » Thu May 23, 2019 10:01 am

Recordings don't really do justice to gongs. I wonder how having a big gong (or two) in a studio will affect the acoustics! I'd definitely have one in the living room though. It's the sound of the Infinite Void and I like that.

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Post by bradpickapiper » Thu May 23, 2019 11:23 am

Hits from the Gong

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Re: Gongs, because they rule! Let's talk about gongs!

Post by slam » Thu May 23, 2019 11:49 am

JohnLRice wrote:Just redid my gong holder in my studio, so I'm excited! :hyper: :hihi:

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Nice! Can we get a rundown of what is in the pic?

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Post by Heavenly3lues » Thu May 23, 2019 12:29 pm

Here's my live performance setup with my fiancé and how we make our living. Gongs are like acoustic synthesizers. Love them!

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Post by slam » Thu May 23, 2019 1:14 pm

Nice! What kind of gongs do you have there?

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Post by Heavenly3lues » Thu May 23, 2019 1:16 pm

slam wrote:Nice! What kind of gongs do you have there?
Top Left is a 32" Shawn Aceto Saturn Gong (gong maker from Rhode Island)
Top Right is a 40" Shawn Aceto Mirror of Creation Gong
Bottom Right is 36" Meinl Wind Gong
Bottom Left is 36" Paiste Symphonic

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Post by tioJim » Thu May 23, 2019 1:23 pm

Heavenly3lues wrote:
slam wrote:Nice! What kind of gongs do you have there?
Top Left is a 32" Shawn Aceto Saturn Gong (gong maker from Rhode Island)
Top Right is a 40" Shawn Aceto Mirror of Creation Gong
Bottom Right is 36" Meinl Wind Gong
Bottom Left is 36" Paiste Symphonic
And that's me on the right with three barbecues and a pair of telescopes :lol:

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Post by Heavenly3lues » Thu May 23, 2019 1:47 pm

tioJim wrote:
Heavenly3lues wrote:
slam wrote:Nice! What kind of gongs do you have there?
Top Left is a 32" Shawn Aceto Saturn Gong (gong maker from Rhode Island)
Top Right is a 40" Shawn Aceto Mirror of Creation Gong
Bottom Right is 36" Meinl Wind Gong
Bottom Left is 36" Paiste Symphonic
And that's me on the right with three barbecues and a pair of telescopes :lol:
Only the finest Weber will do :nana:

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Post by JohnLRice » Thu May 23, 2019 2:11 pm

Rex Coil 7 wrote:WOW!! That turned out very nice! Clever use of black pipe threaded fittings too! :tu: :party: :sb: :hail:
Thanks! 8-)
cptnal wrote:You've reminded me to pick up a gong holder next time I'm in Tesco.
:mrgreen: What gong(s) do you have?
Idunno wrote:Mmm! Nice gong setup.
I've built wooden stands for mine. They all stack together in a nest.
Collecting gongs is a dangerous thing. You want a full set. What is a full set?
I'll settle for the five gongs I have and collect a full set of flumis.
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Thanks! 8-) Good idea on the nesting stands. :tu: And yeah, gong collecting is almost as bad as synth module collecting. :ripbanana: You reminded me, I still need to get some flumis as I've never had or used any before! I have a few super-ball mallets which are great . . .except when I get aggressive the balls keep popping off the sticks! :roll: :hihi:
Panason wrote:
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nullpunkt wrote:Pictures do not sound. Let us hear!
Seconded!
Recordings don't really do justice to gongs. I wonder how having a big gong (or two) in a studio will affect the acoustics! I'd definitely have one in the living room though. It's the sound of the Infinite Void and I like that.
Yeah, any "quick" recordings I've tried to do are very disappointing compared to how it actually sounded in the room. I have some really great mics and mic preamps so I'm still hopefully that once I take some time with it I'll be able to capture some decent recordings.

There is a bit of a downside to having percussion in the same room as a recording setup since a lot of it resonates with any playback. (only way I can actually listen to a dry playback is to use headphones!) It was bad enough with my drum-set in the room but it's much worse now with the gongs! It's surprising how even relatively quiet sounds are picked up by the gongs! :woah: I do plan on using this to my advantage though when recording my drums and will experiment with very close mic'ing the big gongs from the back to possibly create a bigger "room sound" that I can manipulate with compression etc. 8-)
bradpickapiper wrote:Hits from the Gong
I'm always up for a gong hit! :hihi:

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Post by Dave Peck » Thu May 23, 2019 2:23 pm

Just a couple of months ago I spent a few weeks traveling through Myanmar. Temples everywhere and gongs-a-plenty at all of them. Here's one of the bigger gongs I saw:

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I also got to check out quite a few live music performances. Here's one that used a good selection of gongs:

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Post by Dave Peck » Thu May 23, 2019 2:27 pm

JohnLRice wrote:.
Yeah, any "quick" recordings I've tried to do are very disappointing compared to how it actually sounded in the room. I have some really great mics and mic preamps so I'm still hopefully that once I take some time with it I'll be able to capture some decent recordings.
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Do you have a couple of good omnidirectional mics? Try those, set far enough from the gong to pick up more of the room.

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Post by JohnLRice » Thu May 23, 2019 2:30 pm

Dave Peck wrote:Just a couple of months ago I spent a few weeks traveling through Myanmar. Temples everywhere and gongs-a-plenty at all of them. Here's one of the bigger gongs I saw:

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I also got to check out quite a few live music performances. Here's one that used a good selection of gongs:

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Post by Hyberus » Thu May 23, 2019 2:55 pm

One of my Hyberus colleagues does gong bath experiences. And I have to say that gongs sound absolutely amazing. If I wasn't devoted to Eurorack I would be very tempted to get into them. Actually, damnit, I am tempted . . .
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Post by JohnLRice » Thu May 23, 2019 2:57 pm

Some back history:
Here is how it started out and it was quite nice to play to the big gongs unobstructed. I did plan on expanding it with side wings for more gongs and put in T connectors (actually 4 way cross connectors) to attach additional piping.
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Here's what it looked like fully expanded. While it was pretty awesome :love: and I was pleased with the way it turned out, it was cumbersome and a bit claustrophobic when opened up. The wider wings allowed for a couple more gongs to be mounted at the same time (compared to my current setup) and the heavy duty locking wheels at the ends allowed for heavier gongs to be mounted (and the wheel support at the ends let me keep the torque required to move the wings to a minimum).
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The wings were so wide that they needed to overlap so it had to be constructed with the larger wing extending further out than the smaller one, which made the whole thing fairly thick when closed. Also since the horizontal bars of the wings were all at random heights, removing all the gongs off the wings to try to play the two big gongs with the wings closed wasn't practical or comfortable.
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Current config:
Here's the new/current setup with it's individual arms closed. Since there is no overlap the arms can be very close across the whole surface.
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And since the arms are all at the same height as the horizontal supports for the big gongs, by removing the gongs off the arms it is perfectly comfortable to play the big gongs with the arms closed! :party: Another advantage of this arm setup as opposed to the big wing setup is that I can just swing out one arm for another gong if that's all I need.
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Detail of thickness when closed.
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Re: Gongs, because they rule! Let's talk about gongs!

Post by JohnLRice » Thu May 23, 2019 3:17 pm

slam wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:Just redid my gong holder in my studio, so I'm excited! :hyper: :hihi:

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Nice! Can we get a rundown of what is in the pic?
Sure!

Left:
Top: 13", 10", 7" Paiste Accent
Bottom: 20" Paiste Symphonic

Center:
Left: 10" Generic nipple C#4
Center: 36" Feng Wind
Right: 7" Paiste nipple D5
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Left: 8" Generic nipple F4
Center: 44" Chau
Right: 7" Generic nipple G#4

Right:
Top: 24" Paiste Symphonic
Bottom: 28" Paiste Symphonic

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Post by Gizmo » Thu May 23, 2019 3:19 pm

Just amazing.

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Post by JohnLRice » Thu May 23, 2019 3:20 pm

Heavenly3lues wrote:Here's my live performance setup with my fiancé and how we make our living. Gongs are like acoustic synthesizers. Love them!

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Fantastic setup!! :party: :sb: :loves: Do you do music concerts only, gong-bath/healing therapy sessions only, or both?

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Post by JohnLRice » Thu May 23, 2019 3:26 pm

Heavenly3lues wrote:
tioJim wrote: And that's me on the right with three barbecues and a pair of telescopes :lol:
Only the finest Weber will do :nana:
:hihi: I played my Rav Vast tongue drum at a gig recently and got a few "wok" jokes. :mrgreen:
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Post by Gizmo » Thu May 23, 2019 3:32 pm

Stir fried Rice?

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