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yalivec


https://www.ericasynths.lv/shop/eurorack-modules/by-series/drum-series  /dual-fx/

Hi all! Recently found this one on Erica website.
They say it combines two Spin FV-1 chips.

Does anyone know is that the same chip they use in Pico DSP?
In other words, can we considered this module as dual Pico DSP with normal knobs?

Does anyone use it?

Thanks.
Tonescape
Yes and no.

The Pico is Spin based too, but the algorithm selection is not identical.

I have the Dual FX and use it a lot. Most of the time I use it as one dual algorithm unit, as the left side out normals to right side in.

Great little unit, quite powerful, even though I don't find all the algorithms that useful.

One cool thing about it is that you are able to save one recall state pr. algorithm, I don't think the Pico DSP can do that.
yalivec
Thanks for reply.
Yes, Pico can't recall parameters.
Actually, the thing is that I love pico's stereo delay very much for its simplicity and melody. But I hate that small knobs.
That's why I wanna change it for this new dual fx. Now with the hope that stereo delay algorithm is not very different from pico.
batch
I have both and it’s a little different. The Dual FX is designed more for percussion and works well. I like it better than the Pico, mainly because of the knobs. The feedback on the stalker reverb algo is wonderful.
yalivec
batch wrote:
The Dual FX is designed more for percussion and works well


Can you describe in more detail what "designed more for percussion" mean?
I use stereo delay in my pico dsp mainly for ambient textures. And now want to swap it for Dual FX for this purpose. Is it a bad idea?
batch
The Dual FX is part of the Erica Synths Drum series and come with the techno system. And so the stereo delay is really good for adding flams to percussion and such, but it’s not the same as what can be achieved with the big stereo delays like Magneto, 4ms digital delay, etc. or I expect the new Erica one that looks pretty awesome.

I personally really love the reverbs on the Dual FX, the stalker reverb can get this awesome feedback going that can then be “played” using the CV or the knob. It’s similar to what’s on the Black Hole 2.

Of your question is, should I upgrade my Pico DSPs to this, then I’d say yes. It’s a better version. And at 10Hp is a powerful and versatile little FX unit.
yalivec
Thank you very much for your answers!
vibralux
Check out my review here:
yalivec
Thanks, vibralux!

So, how its stereo delay compared with pico dsp delays?
Is there too much difference or not?
batch
So, I have both the Pico DSP and Dual Fx in the same case and so thought I would try and answer this question.

Pico DSP has:
Mono Delay
Pitch Shift Delay
Stereo Delay
Granular Delay
Reverb
Saturated Reverb
Leslie Speaker
Bitcrush/ Overdrive

Whereas the Dual Fx has:
Mono Delay
Stereo Delay
Hipass Delay
Big Reverb
Saturated Reverb
Ripper
Dual Pitch Shifter

So the overlaps are Mono and Stereo Delay’s and Saturated Reverb.

I set up my M32 through both so I could easily A/B them and then tested them on min/mid and max settings for the parameters leaving wet/dry at 50%.

To my ears these algorithms are exactly the same.

So it’s really about the other algorithms.

The ripper is a very different beast to the bitcrusher/ overdrive as has a delay component in it to. This creates some bizarre and wild sounds.

The stalker reverb is much bigger than the reverb, and has a feedback that can be played. But neither get as big as say a Valhalla reverb.

The pitch shift delay on the Pico is cool but so is the hipass one.

All in all they are both great units, the fact you can use the dual FX in series is great.

Hope this helps
JoeFuture
Anyone else have an issue where the audio output from the Dual FX is really hot? I have it running into channel 7 of the WMD Performance Mixer, and even with the fader all the way down, it's lighting up the LED red and I can still hear some of the drum signal.

My full signal chain is: ES Sample Drum -> ES Drum Mixer Lite -> ES Dual FX -> WMD Performance Mixer stereo channel 7.

I have the inputs on the ES drum mixer turned pretty low too... it's the Dual FX that seems to heat up the signal.
ggillon
JoeFuture wrote:
Anyone else have an issue where the audio output from the Dual FX is really hot? I have it running into channel 7 of the WMD Performance Mixer, and even with the fader all the way down, it's lighting up the LED red and I can still hear some of the drum signal.

My full signal chain is: ES Sample Drum -> ES Drum Mixer Lite -> ES Dual FX -> WMD Performance Mixer stereo channel 7.

I have the inputs on the ES drum mixer turned pretty low too... it's the Dual FX that seems to heat up the signal.


Isn't it something because of the normalized channels? Sometimes I forget channel 2 of the Dual FX is normalized to 1 and is still sending audio even with nothing patched in
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