Question about fine tune on the 'e' oscillators and memory

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Question about fine tune on the 'e' oscillators and memory

Post by corkyburger » Mon Jul 01, 2019 6:17 am

Hi,

I just got the amazing Studio H router module and I'm really happy with it, but it has thrown up an interesting issue with my 'e' oscillators.

I've used the fine tuning knobs plenty of times to get things tuned how I need them, and I always assumed (because I never noticed any issues) that the positions of those knobs were saved with the preset. Now I'm not so sure!

I've been experimenting with using the signal router and getting 4 oscillators to track nicely with the 251e sequencer. All is good and I save my patch, but when I return (after a substantial power down period) the tuning of the oscillators is out by about a semi tone and I need to tweak the fine tuning knobs....

So my question is, are those fine tuning knob positions saved with presets?

Something strange is happening here and my brain isn't powerful enough to figure it out!

Any one else using the same kind of setup experiencing anything similar (the tuning not the brain weakness)?

Thanks

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Post by mutierend » Mon Jul 01, 2019 11:04 am

Is this with the 259e and 261e?

I've found that the 261e doesn't tune correctly until my system has been on for five to ten minutes. Maybe that's confirmation bias or some kind of voodoo. The 258e seems to like to warm up a bit too, but it's analog so that makes sense.

The tuning knobs positions are saved with the preset. But remember that their resolution is not particularly fine.

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Post by corkyburger » Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:50 am

Yes it is the 259e and the 261e.

It is really strange. Every now and again I come back to a patch and those oscillators are off by maybe a semitone or so.

I did a live show last night and that tuning issue caused one of my songs to sound very discordant!

Not really sure what to do about it.

mutierend wrote:Is this with the 259e and 261e?

I've found that the 261e doesn't tune correctly until my system has been on for five to ten minutes. Maybe that's confirmation bias or some kind of voodoo. The 258e seems to like to warm up a bit too, but it's analog so that makes sense.

The tuning knobs positions are saved with the preset. But remember that their resolution is not particularly fine.

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Post by renny3c » Fri Aug 09, 2019 10:03 am

corkyburger wrote: Not really sure what to do about it.
play microtonal music :hihi:

I had the same thing happen to me at a music fest once. Midi from 225e out to the oscillators. The problem was i had both "e" and "r" oscillators...
I blamed the 258r (thinking digital "e" couldn't be the culprit) and was re-tuning all the oscillators mid song...

The set that night was based on video game / 8-bit tunes on a buchla... lets just say it was the sickest Super Mario Bros theme ever played.

I dont have my system next to me but pretty sure the fine tune knobs are not saved, Ill check this out later

cheers!

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Post by REcDeso12oi » Fri Aug 09, 2019 11:09 am

corkyburger wrote: I did a live show last night and that tuning issue caused one of my songs to sound very discordant!
:sb: Don has such a huge smile on his face right now, wherever he is :)

I know you'll get it figured out, I've seen some very tonal 200e shows that have sounded consistently "in tune". Even w/ presets being switched. Maybe PM someone who has posted some videos of live work w/ tonal 200e stuff and see how they handle it?

Cheers

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Post by Happyanimal » Fri Aug 09, 2019 7:38 pm

“Blue knobs of the 200e and 200h series can have their settings saved and retrieved when directed by the preset manager.”

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