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Wanting to make a physical tuning-fork instrument, servos ?

Post by Midiot » Thu Jul 18, 2019 1:34 am

I have a bunch of tuning forks, and a retro repurposed acoustically good wood box.
I can mount the "forks" so they "sing" a note when struck by a servo or whatever. Several forks could be struck at the same time as a "chord".

I'll assume one or more piezo transducers are needed to collect the sound and send it to my mixer. (other option is an audible microphone).
I know that the Bastil company was making servos and transducer units . as well as Koma's "Field Kit".

Any recommendations or examples ?
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Re: Wanting to make a physical tuning-fork instrument, servo

Post by Mungo » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:03 am

Midiot wrote:I have a bunch of tuning forks, and a retro repurposed acoustically good wood box.
I can mount the "forks" so they "sing" a note when struck by a servo or whatever. Several forks could be struck at the same time as a "chord".

I'll assume one or more piezo transducers are needed to collect the sound and send it to my mixer. (other option is an audible microphone).
I know that the Bastil company was making servos and transducer units . as well as Koma's "Field Kit".

Any recommendations or examples ?
A servo is probably the wrong thing to use as you want a sharp strike. A solenoid driven hammer could work, but with magnetic properties a tuning fork can be excited directly with a magnetic field:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File ... g_fork.png
Have a pulse sent through that coil and its similar to striking the fork.

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Post by Midiot » Thu Jul 18, 2019 2:25 am

Thanks Mungo.
So perhaps it's a strike from an arm that's inches away from the servo's mag field ? (I realize that might incur some lag, timing-wise)
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Post by butter » Fri Jul 19, 2019 12:47 am

Have you seen the Jackalope?
https://www.awonderfulkindofimpossible. ... s-now-open

More basic than what you seem to be planning, its just a piezo with a manually struck fork...

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Post by Midiot » Tue Nov 26, 2019 1:45 am

Continuing this discussion,
Can small tuning forks be resonated by an electromagnetic field ? ....like an "EBow" does to guitar strings ?
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Post by Midiot » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:03 am

....except, like the EBow, this can't touch the fork (or it needs a harmonic point).
Maybe spinning magnets and/or a hall sensor. ??
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Post by Midiot » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:18 am

Could an old speaker driver be used to vibrate the ferrous fork, with correct or needed freqs ?

https://forum.allaboutcircuits.com/thre ... eas.28973/
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Post by Midiot » Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:34 am

Here's a microphone'd pickup......with tuning fork(s)....



or this...... https://www.eiscolabs.com/collections/s ... /ph0746cnc
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Post by hox3d » Tue Nov 26, 2019 3:39 am

Tom Whitwell wrote an article in Medium about a kalimba with titanium bicycles spokes.

It a nice idea, and he simply uses piezos.
It seems to work quite well.

edit: forgot the link
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Post by commodorejohn » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:33 am

I'm surprised nobody's pointed out yet that this is essentially what an oldschool electric tine piano (Rhodes, Wurlitzer) is.
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Post by EATyourGUITAR » Tue Nov 26, 2019 9:35 am

you can do the mic and the excitation with a single piezo but you need to be super smart at building electronics and writing software.
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Post by jorg » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:10 am

commodorejohn wrote:I'm surprised nobody's pointed out yet that this is essentially what an oldschool electric tine piano (Rhodes, Wurlitzer) is.
Well, it would be a "player electric piano," wouldn't it?

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Post by jorg » Tue Nov 26, 2019 11:15 am

Midiot wrote:Continuing this discussion,
Can small tuning forks be resonated by an electromagnetic field ? ....like an "EBow" does to guitar strings ?
Possibly. I see that tuning forks come in ferrous (steel) and non-ferrous (aluminum) varieties. What are yours made of?

You could get the solenoids that are used in washing machines; they're pretty cheap as repair parts. Then either rig them up to mechanically strike the forks, or glue the plungers in place and use them to generate magnetic pulses to stimulate the forks. You could probably shape the magnetic pulse to get different attack timbres.

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Post by chuckg » Tue Nov 26, 2019 4:35 pm

get some old doorbells out of the dump...
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Post by Bartimaeus » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:39 am

As with old-school electric pianos, you'll probably be better off using a pickup per string rather than piezos.

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