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Instruo incoming

Post by hawkfuzz » Fri Aug 23, 2019 10:44 pm

https://www.instruomodular.com/product/vinca/
https://www.instruomodular.com/product/athru/

Anyone know anything about the VCA or wavefolder? I know the wavefolders in their oscillators differ. Is this the Cs-L version or different altogether?

Also, "chain" is mention in the description of the new VCA. Is this the MIX OUT kind or the 3-pin kind?
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Post by mdoudoroff » Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:06 am

Jason seems like a terrific guy and a unique and accomplished module designer, but Instruo’s marketing is … unreliable.

I’ve had the best luck emailing him directly.

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Post by Sanys » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:23 am

separate wavefolder yummy
would like to hear it

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Post by TheRosskonian » Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:40 am

hawkfuzz wrote: Also, "chain" is mention in the description of the new VCA. Is this the MIX OUT kind or the 3-pin kind?
I think it was one of the big shows in 2018 where he talked about those VCAs and thier linking capability. You just use a patch cable to link them together, it's just a normal jack behind the panel. Wish more people stole this idea. I don't own any of his VCAs yet, so this may have changed.

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Post by hawkfuzz » Sat Aug 24, 2019 8:17 pm

So instead of a 3-pin ribbon cable, like others have been using, it's a 1/8" connector on the back of the module?

That's neat.
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Post by soon_come » Mon Sep 02, 2019 1:40 pm

The athru is amazing; I was testing one out for him and have nothing but good things to say about it. I love using it as a kind of fake VCA which folds when you increase the amplitude of the incoming envelope. Sounds fantastic on all of my oscillators, really - especially with sines. Jason is a fantastic guy and provides great friendly service.

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Post by Footkerchief » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:32 pm

Any demos of Athrú yet?

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Post by soon_come » Wed Oct 09, 2019 1:47 pm



Not quite a demo, but it’ll give you an idea of the sound.

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Post by deftinwulf » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:18 pm

soon_come wrote:The athru is amazing; I was testing one out for him and have nothing but good things to say about it. I love using it as a kind of fake VCA which folds when you increase the amplitude of the incoming envelope.
That sounds fascinating. Really want to hear demos in action! :sb:

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Post by nectarios » Wed Oct 09, 2019 2:25 pm

soon_come wrote:

Not quite a demo, but it’ll give you an idea of the sound.
Hmm, well it sounds like a wavefolder...anyone knows if there is a second audio input that can be summed in the folder? The only thing that could be it is the bottom left jack, but of course I am just assuming that.

Vinca is nice, but its 200€ so not for me.

I am looking for a small wavefolder though and I was almost sure it was the Dannysound Timbre I was getting.

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Post by hawkfuzz » Wed Oct 09, 2019 4:19 pm

There's only one input.
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Post by MvK » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:13 pm

I checked the wavefolder at schneidersladen and I believe it was a faulty unit because when the fader was all the way down there was considerable noise and some sizzling sound. I contacted instruo about that a week ago but didn't hear anything from them (him) yet. But man, I love this wavefolder. I was very interested in the smoothness of the transition when the folding increases and I know from some wavefolders that there are some gaps. I guess this is in the nature of wavefolders because everytime when the signal is folding you can hear some aprupt changes in the sound even if you increase the folding very slowly. some do it nice and smooth, others not so much. This one is really perfect in that regard.

there is a 2nd audio input and it works very well. I put 2 different oscs which were synced and got a very rich yet harmonically pleasing sound out of it.

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Post by nios » Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:36 pm

MvK wrote: when the fader was all the way down there was considerable noise and some sizzling sound.
I've had this happen with three different (analog) wavefolders under certain settings/conditions, they either are really vulnerable to system noise bleed including from power supply and being able to hear other oscs in the system on the output (with no audio patched in), and/or they can make staticy/scratchy sounds as you manipulate certain parts of them. Digital folders like Warps don't have this, but that's perhaps not too surprising.

I have a Cs-L and the folders on those are prone to making scratchy/poppy sounds vastly dependent on how your other parameters are set; let me guess, you're hearing noise when adjusting the bias right? It's not always prevalent however and I don't hear the system bleeding through, aka can't hear myself adjusting an osc not patched to anything several rows above through the wavefolder out, looking at you Doepfer A-137-1 (which is actually a super fantastic module otherwise, I just had to make efforts to isolate it). I will say, that the folder on the DPO does not have any of these issues and feels/sounds like butter to use, so "it's just because analog folders do that" is not the explanation, so much as it's common and happens to be how Instruo's folders go. That or my Cs-L is also glitchy, although I really don't think so. Rather I like the thing so much I'd be annoyed having to send it away for a few weeks and not get to play it :omg:

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Post by soon_come » Wed Oct 09, 2019 10:57 pm

nectarios wrote:
soon_come wrote:

Not quite a demo, but it’ll give you an idea of the sound.
Hmm, well it sounds like a wavefolder...anyone knows if there is a second audio input that can be summed in the folder? The only thing that could be it is the bottom left jack, but of course I am just assuming that.
There’s no second input for summing; that’s a strike input for triggering a built-in envelope, kinda like a LPG or something. I’m not sure how the envelope is actually generated, but IIRC there’s a trimmer on the back for its decay.

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Post by nectarios » Thu Oct 10, 2019 2:13 am

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This appears to be the second input with switch selecting the function of the little pot between a bias control or attenuverer for the input signal.

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Post by soon_come » Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:53 am

Ah yes, you’re right - I didn’t really think of that as a second input for AC signals; I’ve been using it just for DC offset. But it is indeed a second input... I’ll have to do some more experiments to see how it reacts when another audio signal is passed through for summing.

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Post by shellfritsch » Wed Oct 23, 2019 3:50 pm

having a hard time finding more demos of this...

can anyone speak to how it sounds compared to the intellijel uFold II?

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Post by BWBKc6VyUr » Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:52 am

Would also really like to see/hear a proper demo of Athrú please

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Post by closedLoop » Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:47 am

BWBKc6VyUr wrote:Would also really like to see/hear a proper demo of Athrú please
This is the best demo I've seen, and what inspired me to pick one up:



The video is on the second 'page' of the instagram post.

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Post by Licudi » Wed Dec 25, 2019 2:55 am

Any user-reports of the unpronounceable/unsearchable Divkids LFO thingy yet?

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Post by pugix » Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:37 pm

BWBKc6VyUr wrote:
Mon Nov 11, 2019 7:52 am
Would also really like to see/hear a proper demo of Athrú please
Well, I hope this is a proper demo.

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Post by BWBKc6VyUr » Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:25 pm

MvK wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:13 pm
I checked the wavefolder at schneidersladen and I believe it was a faulty unit because when the fader was all the way down there was considerable noise and some sizzling sound. [...] I love this wavefolder. I was very interested in the smoothness of the transition when the folding increases
I had a T-sl on loan for a few weeks. Like you, I noted and liked the folding smoothness that you describe (although I did think the range of the control was too wide, with most of the interesting action happening about 12 o'clock). Hence why I'm really interested in Athrú. Also like you, I experienced lots of "sizzling" noise. Funny thing is the guy who lent me the module never had that issue in his rack.

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Post by BWBKc6VyUr » Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:38 pm

pugix wrote:
Fri Jan 03, 2020 3:37 pm
Well, I hope this is a proper demo.
Proper enough for me, thanks a lot! :)

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Post by MvK » Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:45 pm

BWBKc6VyUr wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 12:25 pm
MvK wrote:
Wed Oct 09, 2019 6:13 pm
I checked the wavefolder at schneidersladen and I believe it was a faulty unit because when the fader was all the way down there was considerable noise and some sizzling sound. [...] I love this wavefolder. I was very interested in the smoothness of the transition when the folding increases
I had a T-sl on loan for a few weeks. Like you, I noted and liked the folding smoothness that you describe (although I did think the range of the control was too wide, with most of the interesting action happening about 12 o'clock). Hence why I'm really interested in Athrú. Also like you, I experienced lots of "sizzling" noise. Funny thing is the guy who lent me the module never had that issue in his rack.
one week later I had the chance to compare two athrus. Big applause to schneidersladen. they got another one from their storage just to satisfy my curiosity and indeed the one I tested earlier was faulty as in a lot more noise than the other. Since then I have it in my rack and its great! the fader is perfect IMO. I don't like fader for everything but for wavefolding it feels quite natural. I often patch a complex version of a subtractive voice for my live act and this gives me a lot of playability outside of the conventional "parameters" where a lot can be done on the oscillator level. Filtering is fine and I like it a lot. But with things like the wavefolder you can retain phase relationships between different waves and still go like whawhawha :-)

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Post by Funky40 » Sun Jan 05, 2020 9:23 pm

MvK wrote:
Sun Jan 05, 2020 6:45 pm
But with things like the wavefolder you can retain phase relationships between different waves and still go like whawhawha :-)
thats a interesting point you´re making here.

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