Piano bench causing swollen feet/ankles?

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Piano bench causing swollen feet/ankles?

Post by Mind Flayer » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:51 pm

Not sure where else to post this. I’ve noticed that when I sit at my piano/keyboard bench for more than 20-30 minutes, my ankles and feet get swollen. Does anybody else have this problem? I’m wondering if sitting to high (the bench can’t go any lower) cuts off circulation or something?

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Post by MarcelP » Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:23 pm

I have not experienced this (I am old and play the piano for more than half hour at a sitting). If this has recently started and nothing in your environment has changed (same bench, same piano, etc) then all that has changed is you. Have you noticed anything similar in other sitting situations - driving for example? Have you put on weight, taken to wearing unfeasibly tight pants, etc? I would guess some sort of circulation/blood pressure thingy (as you can probably guess I have no medical knowledge whatsoever!). Maybe get a check up at your local GP (I am in the U.K. - the health services like us oldies to check in for a once-over every so often).

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Post by strettara » Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:43 am

Apart from the obvious remedy of interrupting your piano playing every fifteen minutes and stretching or something - which would be an annoying thing to have to do, I know - you might want to look at Varier Balans chairs, especially the Move and Actulum. They allow you to rock the supporting surface forwards, thus relieving pressure on the backs of the thighs and improving circulation when seated for long periods of time.

Downside is they're bloody expensive... But I've been using the classic Variable Balans chairs for work for 25 years or so (they need re-upholstering!) and wouldn't use anything else. Well worth the investment imo.
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Post by Funky40 » Sun Sep 15, 2019 10:08 am

a computer chair could be a help.

i use one.
goes high, Great this is !
adjustbale angle, wheels.
never would play having a piano bench under me.


the other thing:
QiGong or TajChi would be my tip.

these techniques help to gain awareness for what we do with our body,
to get aware of our own tensions.......or the missed ones.


first i´d do:
analyze yourself !
and what exactly you are doing


nobody just sits on the bench and just plays piano.
we all create fields of tension and forces.
analize it !


(suffering myself since this year.....)


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Re: Piano bench causing swollen feet/ankles?

Post by h4ndcrafted » Mon Sep 16, 2019 12:27 pm

Mind Flayer wrote:Not sure where else to post this. I’ve noticed that when I sit at my piano/keyboard bench for more than 20-30 minutes, my ankles and feet get swollen. Does anybody else have this problem? I’m wondering if sitting to high (the bench can’t go any lower) cuts off circulation or something?

Getting old sucks.
Take it from somebody who has had two large blood clots , one got missed for so long it was the entire length of my leg!

They are no joking matter , if you get swelling easily , you may have a blood condition without knowing it, I am factor V. Basically I clot too easily.

If you get swelling and it’s warm to the touch, get it checked out.
However mine kept on coming and going , hence it got missed for so long. I was only 32 at the time. So they don’t always just get worse. Especially if you have breathing problems with swelling, treat it as an emergency.

Obviously it’s best just to avoid this situation by not sitting too long and getting yr bloods checked for defects if you are getting edema anywhere.

Blood clots are really common way to die, it’s weird you don’t hear more about them.
I know someone who had a broken leg, a clot moved and that was the end of him.

I guess my general point is, your body is telling you something , take it very seriously.
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Post by Mind Flayer » Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:27 pm

Thanks for the replies. I think the bench is the culprit. I switched it out for a chair that has a different height and that seemed to work better. I'll probably end up getting an adjustable office-type chair.

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Post by oscilloscope » Mon Sep 16, 2019 2:35 pm

Step 1: consult your doctor to get checked (venous echo doppler).
Step 2: get compression socks, cotton mix or bamboo mix (open or closed toes).

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Post by Savage » Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:10 pm

I have a nasty spinal condition that causes constant moderate to severe pain, and an office chair helps me a lot. Since I play various instruments -- keyboards, 'the knobs' on modular synth, guitar, etc. -- the arms would've just gotten in the way. So I left them off. This worked out for me serendipitously, though, as during assembly I saw that I didn't necessarily have to install the arms, and so I didn't. However, I would gather that some chairs may not assemble correctly without the arms. So if you want to leave the arms off, you may wish to ask if the arms are required. If you would want to leave them off, also...

Likewise, you may wish the chair to be stationary and not want to install the casters. I wanted the casters, but for playing piano, you may not. My casters just plugged into the legs, but they locked in place and I don't think they would remove easily. Perhaps take that into consideration when choosing a chair.

Also, some locked in various reclining positions while some didn't. Reclining and locking into position was a must for me. So I chose accordingly with that in mind, and the swivel position locks, too. And, of course, there are various types of upholstery, etc. to choose from. I chose the more expensive stuffed leather for utmost comfort. But some chairs had open webbing that would be cooler for some people.

I ended up with a nice comfy leather office chair on casters, and it adjusts in height and reclines and locks in position without arms to get in the way of playing stringed instruments and such. In fact, I still have the arms, and I could potentially put one or both on if I so desired.

Think about how you're going to use the chair and select one to suit your needs. Most of them require assembly that could give you all kinds of options. Just be careful that leaving something out (like the arms) doesn't make it fall apart!
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Re: Piano bench causing swollen feet/ankles?

Post by Funky40 » Mon Sep 16, 2019 5:23 pm

h4ndcrafted wrote: I guess my general point is, your body is telling you something , take it very seriously.
i *totally* agree on this !

i went this year to a vene specialist myself.
and had afterwards two vene incidents with my lower leg.........absolutely unfunny.

much likely related me going surfing once a week, respectivly way more last summer season.
decided now to stop surfing completly ! a major drawback in my live


Mind Flayer wrote: I think the bench is the culprit.
Much likely granted, its Not !
......it might add to the problem, absolutely, but your problem relies from somewhere else.
as others sayed: best is indeed to check the doctor.


check that the office chair can be adjusted quite high.
You also need adjustable angle to make it work.

take it serious Man


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Post by rens » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:42 pm

So many words. All for your health!


Change the height and the pitch. Nowadays piano benches do both.

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Post by ranix » Tue Sep 17, 2019 4:23 am

It's pretty easy to diagnose stuff that can cause that kind of symptom. Doctors use blood pressure cuffs and compare the blood flow at your legs and toes to the flow in your arms and fingers, and depending on what the difference is and where they can find problems. You can get checked out really quick and easy and it's totally noninvasive. There's vascular clinics all over and your doctor can recommend you to one.

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Post by Red Electric Rainbow » Mon Sep 30, 2019 11:25 am

seek professional medical attention
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Post by artieTwelve » Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:32 pm

seek professional medical attention
This. It could be something or nothing. Only a doc will be able to tell you.

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