What Boats Were Used for the COA Vintage Voltron Panels?

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What Boats Were Used for the COA Vintage Voltron Panels?

Post by syncretism » Fri Nov 22, 2019 9:25 am

The old VV4 I had came with a pretty rugged boat, much sturdier than the Bud enclosures I've seen. I picked up a VV6 without a boat a while ago and, horror of horrors, I resorted to drilling holes and in an R*S boat and fastening the panel with zip ties. It'd be nice to free up that boat for other uses, though - especially if we're only talking a 30, 40-dollar spend for the real thing.

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Post by the bad producer » Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:00 am

The other one is a Hammond, you can tell the difference as they have angled corners, rather than err not - or something lol, check out Mouser:

546-1444-1773

AFAIK there are only Bud and Hammond for DIY in this size, the BUD has folded over 'square' ends, check the datasheets as people use Bud interchangeably for both!

563-AC-423

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Post by dksynth » Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:07 am

syncretism wrote:I resorted to drilling holes and in an R*S boat and fastening the panel with zip ties.
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Post by syncretism » Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:40 pm

dksynth wrote: you do you, hah.
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Post by syncretism » Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:20 pm

the bad producer wrote:The other one is a Hammond, you can tell the difference as they have angled corners, rather than err not - or something lol, check out Mouser:

546-1444-1773
Legend. Thank you!

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Post by teleport » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:41 pm

Have found "pem-style" M3 press-in threaded inserts work pretty well with the Hammond cases for creating arbitrarily positioned fastener points for panels.

(can't remember exactly which ones - but any of these look like they'd work)

https://www.mcmaster.com/m3-threaded-insert-press-fit

You need to drill the exact diameter hole to accept the component and then squeeze it into the hole (from the backside of the lip) - using an arbor press or something. A c-clamp (non-wobbly side towards the part), works in a pinch.

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Post by dksynth » Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:23 pm

I've used hand rivet guns like this:

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with bud and hammond boats. works great.

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Post by cleaninglady » Tue May 05, 2020 5:05 pm

Bud Industries AC-423

Have built 11 CGS Serge panels using these.

17x7x3 inches

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Post by teleport » Wed May 06, 2020 1:20 am

cleaninglady wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:05 pm
Bud Industries AC-423

Have built 11 CGS Serge panels using these.

17x7x3 inches
Curious if you have had to do much trimming to get the cgs rails to clear? I've built a couple with Hammonds and have found that to be one of the less ideal aspects. Not terrible, just a bit of tedium spent with a nibbling tool.

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Post by GrantB » Wed May 06, 2020 1:39 am

teleport wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 1:20 am
cleaninglady wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:05 pm
Bud Industries AC-423

Have built 11 CGS Serge panels using these.

17x7x3 inches
Curious if you have had to do much trimming to get the cgs rails to clear? I've built a couple with Hammonds and have found that to be one of the less ideal aspects. Not terrible, just a bit of tedium spent with a nibbling tool.
oof, screw nibblers, aviation snips all the way. And yes the Buds need trimming. :rastanana:

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Post by teleport » Wed May 06, 2020 3:55 pm

GrantB wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 1:39 am
teleport wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 1:20 am
cleaninglady wrote:
Tue May 05, 2020 5:05 pm
Bud Industries AC-423

Have built 11 CGS Serge panels using these.

17x7x3 inches
Curious if you have had to do much trimming to get the cgs rails to clear? I've built a couple with Hammonds and have found that to be one of the less ideal aspects. Not terrible, just a bit of tedium spent with a nibbling tool.
oof, screw nibblers, aviation snips all the way. And yes the Buds need trimming. :rastanana:

Ah, thanks - that's good advice. I've actually got some snips - didn't think they'd navigate into some of those interior angles but I'll definitely be giving it a try on the next build.

To be sure - I wasn't nibbling the entire length of the box, just strategic points that allow the boards to pass, this technique has also allowed leaving untrimmed tabs for the threaded inserts (above).

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Post by GrantB » Wed May 06, 2020 8:03 pm

teleport wrote:
Wed May 06, 2020 3:55 pm

Ah, thanks - that's good advice. I've actually got some snips - didn't think they'd navigate into some of those interior angles but I'll definitely be giving it a try on the next build.

To be sure - I wasn't nibbling the entire length of the box, just strategic points that allow the boards to pass, this technique has also allowed leaving untrimmed tabs for the threaded inserts (above).
It's nice to have the left and right hand angled kind.

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Post by cleaninglady » Wed May 06, 2020 10:36 pm

I have had my best build with my last one, didn't need to nibble the BUD AC423 at all.

I could do this by not running any cables outside of the width of the CGS Powered rails.

I varied the height of the Modules within the 3" of clearance (depth) using different sized standoffs.

This allowed me to slip the power cables i had wired into the CGS rails in between the modules and to their headers.

Avoiding going out and around the outside of the rails, (thus causing snagging) eliminated the need to nibble edges away.
It's a bit of forethought but well worth the effort.

In some builds, such as my BOG, which had extra switches on the far right, in hammered the far right lip flat to the side of the enclosure to give me some wiggle room. (not shown here).

Below is a few pics of my Custom panel build from a few years ago. That was my 9th complete Serge panel.
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Post by rampy » Sat May 09, 2020 7:41 pm

Cleaninglady, what are the daughterboards on the pcos?

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Post by Repeater » Sun May 10, 2020 1:35 am

Sort of off topic but... You run a whole panel including a WAD on a NSD10-D12? Are you happy with them? I've made some smaller things with them and have liked them for low-current situations.

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Post by chocolatyshatner » Sun May 10, 2020 10:44 am

rampy, zoom and enhance reveals text reading "pco vc-fm" on those daughterboards. Perhaps isnpired by NTO vcfm? cleaninglady, could you show the front panel?

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Post by cleaninglady » Tue May 12, 2020 5:31 pm

The panel is a one of a kind custom panel.

rampy the other daughterboards are the Gain Cells on my VCFQ and the Channel boards from the ew Elby version of the DCSM. I was never happy with the DCSM using Gain Cells so i tried the CGS506 MCSM.

Repeater Yes. I'm happy enough. Hasn't blown up yet but does get a bit hot in Summer.

chocolatyshatner I have been asked by the panel designer not to show the panel here for his own reasons, there are videos and pics on my FB, youtube and instagram : https://www.instagram.com/noiseelectronique.

Most links can be found on my Bandcamp page.

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