Doepfer lpg vs Plan B+other advice

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Doepfer lpg vs Plan B+other advice

Post by Suburban Bather » Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:01 pm

Ok, I'm really close to pulling the trigger on ordering this http://www.analoguehaven.com/doepfer/a100diy1/ and building a case for it. All of these demos with lpg's in them are making me go :bop: Other than Cynthia(at this point that option does not count) or DIY, there is no other option than to go Serge, Buchla, or Euro(I think I'll go Euro) Oh, in case anyone reading this does not know, I have a 5U + Moogerfooger system.

Is there any difference between two Doepfer lpg's and one m13? I ask because I'm afraid to order anything by Plan B due to build quality issues.

Also, does anyone have any experience with the following modules-
http://www.analoguehaven.com/doepfer/a101-1/
http://www.analoguehaven.com/doepfer/a101-3/
http://www.analoguehaven.com/doepfer/a101-9/ especially this module. Only because I still don't understand exactly what this module does. To me, its seems like a vactrol based CV processor. I understand the WoW factor of vactrols for audio, but otherwise I'm completely lost.

So yeah, my Euro system will be based on vactrol modules and I'm also interested in the Harvestman, Livewire, Tiptop audio, Makenoise(if the Qmmg becomes available again), and some other Doepfer modules mostly for audio and cv processing. I'm pretty much covered on standard modules with my current set up, but one or two more in Euro format won't hurt.

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Re: Doepfer lpg vs Plan B+other advice

Post by MrDys » Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:15 pm

Suburban Bather wrote: http://www.analoguehaven.com/doepfer/a101-9/ especially this module. Only because I still don't understand exactly what this module does. To me, its seems like a vactrol based CV processor. I understand the WoW factor of vactrols for audio, but otherwise I'm completely lost.
It doesn't actually do anything by itself. It's for if you have a module that for whatever reason has a knob to modify a parameter, but does not also have a CV in for that parameter. By soldering a bunch of crap between the module and the A101-9, it gives you the ability to CV control whatever that knob does normally.

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Post by pristak » Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:33 pm

I really wouldn't be so worried about ordering from Plan B, but that is up to you.

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Post by REwire » Wed Dec 31, 2008 5:44 pm

I have two Model 13s and the QMMG (Friday will be 2) and as Vactrol VCA's go, they both are pretty much similar in their ringing. The QMMG ups it though with HP filters and CV resonance that makes it a gnarly VCA/Filter combo. The Doepfer A-101-2 didn't ring much at all. As far as the other Vactrol Doepfers, I hear the Phaser is cool but I'd take the Plan-B Model 12 over any Vactrol filter.

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Post by Roycie Roller » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:14 pm

Suburban Bather wrote: HAPPY NEW YEAR BITCHES!!!!!!!!! :guinness:
Who you callin' bitch, bitch? :goatse: :hihi:
I just read that the QMMG was back in stock at AH. If i didn't have my own 28x vactrolized levitating infinite-mode filtration device to build, i'd go for the QMMG. :hail:

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Post by dougcl » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:17 pm

GET THE QMMG BECAUSE IT WINS.

Also, consider not getting the DIY #1. Take a look at all the ideas under the "oh snap" thread here somewhere. Talk to jonkull about the DIY #1 before you buy.

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Post by dougcl » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:20 pm

REwire wrote:I have two Model 13s and the QMMG (Friday will be 2)
Two (or more) would be awesome. Wish I had room. How about 6U of QMMGs?

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Post by Cybananna » Wed Dec 31, 2008 7:45 pm

I liked the sound of the Plan B LPG better than Doepfer. The Plan B rings more to my taste.

I wouldn't worry about ordering from Plan B either. I've ordered several in the past and have plans to order more.

Plan B is great stuff.

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Post by Scaff » Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:28 pm

+1 for the plan B LPG. I haven`t tried the QMMG but beside my VCS and the VCO-2RM the LPG is my love! :love:
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Post by Chuck E. Jesus » Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:29 pm

MrDys wrote: By soldering a bunch of crap between the module and the A101-9, it gives you the ability to CV control whatever that knob does normally.
:lol: all you have to do is put a jack in parallel to the pot...i have the mod, it works fine...i already had non-vc stuff (A-140, 145, etc), now it's vc :tu:

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Post by Suburban Bather » Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:38 am

Ok, sounds like Peter took care of the quality control issues. Thanks for the heads up everybody.
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Post by wetterberg » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:20 am

the doepfer lpg has a resonance control, and it'll go up to self-oscillation, like the (for my use way too big) QMMG. The m13 isn't resonant.

For my ears the Doepfer sounds better than both of them :confused: YMMV.

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Post by e-grad » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:54 am

I've experience with the Doepfer LPG, Fonik's DIY which is based upon a Peter Grenaders design and the Wiard Borg 2.

The Doepfer don't come close to the plucky sound often associated with the original Buchla LPG. Think the Fonik and Wiard much better!

However, as a filter and VCA in it's on right I think the Doepfer module is one of the best in the A100-line.
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Post by Suburban Bather » Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:18 am

I think I'll just go ahead and get the QMMG, m13, and two Doepfers.
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Post by wetterberg » Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:19 am

lol! OctoVac!

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Post by Suburban Bather » Thu Jan 01, 2009 3:58 pm

wetterberg wrote:lol! OctoVac!
Yeah! :lick:

I just placed my order for the QMMG and Doepfer DIY#1 kit :omg:

Now who wants to buy an MnM MKII and FR Revolution MKII so that I can buy more Euro modules pronto?
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Post by dkcg » Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:41 pm

Suburban Bather wrote:
wetterberg wrote:lol! OctoVac!
Yeah! :lick:

I just placed my order for the QMMG and Doepfer DIY#1 kit :omg:

Now who wants to buy an MnM MKII and FR Revolution MKII so that I can buy more Euro modules pronto?
and the addiction begins....
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Post by D/A A/D » Thu Jan 01, 2009 10:29 pm

I love my Doepfer lpg and my qmmg, use them together all the time - like right now as I type this!

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Post by Suburban Bather » Fri Jan 02, 2009 6:44 am

Yea, I've read possitive comments from people on all three brands of LPG. I just bought Madcaplabs Doepfer LPG. One more Doepfer and an m13 to go :party:

I definitely want to add a Tyme Sefari, two oscillators, and I'm not sure what kind of lfo, eg's, and amp/mixer, i'm going to put in.
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Post by Suburban Bather » Sat Jan 03, 2009 2:41 am

Ok, the modules in the bottom row have been ordered. The top row modules are what I'm interested in when more funds/some of the modules themselves become available. The rest of the space is up for grabs.

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