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The 5U DIY Resource Wiki

Post by diophantine » Sat Jun 04, 2011 3:04 pm

Now here!: http://wiki.muffwiggler.com/wiki/5U_DIY_Resources

The below is now obsolete...
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It seems that there is a lot more interest in 5U DIY work these days, both in MOTM and MU formats. Since there's not much centralized information out there for doing this stuff, I thought it would be a good idea to start such a resource, in a public forum (i.e. here) to get more feedback and input.

Panels/Faceplates

MOTM
Panel Specs
...

Blank Panels
- Bridechamber: http://bridechamber.com (1, 2, 3, and 4 U)
- Synthesis Technology: http://www.synthtech.com (1 and 2 U)

Project Panels
- Bridechamber: http://bridechamber.com

Custom Panels
- The Beast: http://www.thebeast.co.uk/cnc/
- Front Panel Express [US]: http://www.frontpanelexpress.com
- Schaeffer [EU]: http://www.schaeffer-ag.de

MU
Panel Specs
Details can be found here: http://www.synthesizers.com/technical.html#panels

Blank Panels
Blank panels can be purchased from:
- Moon Modular: http://www.lunar-experience.com (1 and 2 U)
- STG Soundlabs: http://stgsoundlabs.com (1U)
- Synthesizers.com: http://www.synthesizers.com (1, 2, 4, and 8 U)

Project Panels
- Big Blue Wave: http://www.bigbluewave.co.uk
- Bridechamber: http://bridechamber.com

Custom Panels
- Big Blue Wave: http://www.bigbluewave.co.uk
- Front Panel Express [US]: http://www.frontpanelexpress.com
- Schaeffer [EU]: http://www.schaeffer-ag.de
(Note: for FPE/Schaeffer, you need to supply an MU blank.)

Panels Parts

MOTM
Knobs
Synthesis Technology: http://www.synthtech.com

Pots
Synthesis Technology: http://www.synthtech.com

Switches
...

Pushbuttons
...

Jacks
...

LEDs
...

MU
Knobs
Moog/Dotcom-style knobs:
- Small Bear: http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=739
- Synthesizers.com: http://www.synthesizers.com/cabinets.html#parts

Moog/Dotcom-style pointer knobs:
- Small Bear: http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=1109
- Synthesizers.com: http://www.synthesizers.com/cabinets.html#parts

Pots
- Synthesizers.com: http://www.synthesizers.com/cabinets.html#parts (100K, 1M)

Switches
- Synthesizers.com: http://www.synthesizers.com/cabinets.html#parts (DPDT, SPDT)

Pushbuttons
- Synthesizers.com: http://www.synthesizers.com/cabinets.html#parts

Jacks
- Synthesizers.com: http://www.synthesizers.com/cabinets.html#parts

LEDs
...

Note: Panel components from Synthesizers.com come with 6" wires and MTA connected.

PCB/Panel Mounting

MOTM
PCB Mounting Brackets
- Bridechamber: http://bridechamber.com/Brackets.html
- Synthesis Technology: http://www.synthtech.com (Stooge brackets)

MU
...

Internal Connectors

MOTM
Module Power
...

MU
Module Power
6-pin keyed MTA-100 connectors
Pinout:
1 = +15v (White)
2 = KEY - pin missing and plugged
3 = +5v (Red)
4 = gnd (Black)
5 = -15v (Green)

Female 24AWG cable mount: AMP #6404416 (Mouser: 571-3-640441-6)
Male PCB mount: AMP #6404566 (Mouser: 571-6404566)

More details: http://www.synthesizers.com/technical.html#internaldc

Panel Connectors
2-pin MTA-100 connectors are used for jacks, push-buttons, and LEDs.
Jack Pinout:
1 = Signal (tip)
2 = Ground (ring)

Female cable mount: AMP #6404412 (Mouser: 571-3-640441-2)
Male PCB mount: AMP #6404562 (Mouser: 571-6404562)

3-pin MTA-100 connectors are used for switches and pots.
Potentiometer Pinout:
1 = CCW Side
2 = Wiper
3 = CW Side

Female cable mount: AMP #6404413 (Mouser: 571-3-640441-3)
Male PCB mount: AMP #6404563 (Mouser: 571-6404563)

MTA-100 connectors with more pins can be found with similar part numbers.

Additional Details
MTA-100 connectors use 24 awg wire.
MTA-100 "T"-handle tool: AMP #59803-1 (DigiKey: A9982-ND)

Additional Resources

Online resources
http://pugix.com/synth/ (MOTM)
http://guitarfool.com/modules/index.html (MU)

Muffwiggler threads
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A few notes:
- I'm not wanting to do a list of every possible panel part or knob (everyone has preferences), but to list the common/major/most-wanted parts in these formats. I'd love to eventually list the sizes and have templates/sizes for panel design too.
- Some of this info I've taken from others sites (so far just from manufacturers). I haven't explicitly credited them for that info, but have linked to them in places. If people think this needs explicit credits, rather than just a link in the "additional resources" section needed, I can do that.
- I've put "..." in the sections where I have zero info listed, just as a placeholder. If you have info for any of those - or other sections, please feel free to PM me or reply to this thread, and I'll add them!
- I haven't even started working on the "Muffwiggler threads" section, so don't bombard me with links... at least not quite yet :hihi:
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Post by diophantine » Sat Jun 04, 2011 5:23 pm

sandyb suggested I do this as a wiki - I'm totally cool with setting that up, but just want to ask if it is something people would use?

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Post by wmonk » Sat Jun 04, 2011 6:00 pm

Sure! this is good info to have available. But I've never seen a wiki? :help:

A little bit extra MOTM info:
Power connector
1. V+
2. GND
3. GND
4. V-

Jacks: Switchcraft 112A
Knobs: ALCO PKES90B1/4
Potmeters: Spectrol 149

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Post by boothnavy » Sat Jun 04, 2011 8:09 pm

boothnavy - synthesist

www.analogcraftsman.com

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Post by vav » Sat Jun 04, 2011 9:20 pm

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Post by diophantine » Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:10 pm

Sweet, thanks guys! I'll do some additions later this weekend (busy evening here).

Re: wiki. The Muffwiggler wiki: http://wiki.muffwiggler.com/wiki/Main_Page
Unfortunately it seems like it gets pretty low traffic; that is my main worry of having it there vs. here. Feels like a bit of a graveyard there at times...

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Post by Luka » Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:24 pm

We used to have lots of stickies with this sorta info in the diy section but it got to the point where we had a whole page of stickies. Use the search to find info - i realise it is a bit borked at the moment but it should be back in working order soon.

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Post by diophantine » Sat Jun 04, 2011 10:42 pm

Luka wrote:We used to have lots of stickies with this sorta info in the diy section but it got to the point where we had a whole page of stickies. Use the search to find info - i realise it is a bit borked at the moment but it should be back in working order soon.
Yes, I understand that this isn't going to be made a sticky.

But, are you suggesting that people can find this thread via searching, or that this thread isn't needed because people can just search for the info I'm trying to compile? The thing is, much of this info isn't anywhere, especially for MU, so I'm trying to pick people's brains and gather bits of info together so that it can be documented somewhere.

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Post by Luka » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:24 pm

More that im hesitant about making such threads stickies.
Also that there is already a lot of info to be found using the search but it is always nice to colate into a single thread.

Your content is great, thanks :sb:

The wiki should be the place for all reference info if you want to colate it in such a way. It means it can be found easier without sifting through the banter.

Anyway.. as you were

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Post by diophantine » Sat Jun 04, 2011 11:35 pm

Gotcha! Thanks!

I'll work on porting it over to the muffwiki tomorrow, and adding the additional info I've received.

Now back to my regularly scheduled programming!: :guinness:

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Post by doctorvague » Sun Jun 05, 2011 6:48 am

diophantine wrote:Gotcha! Thanks!

I'll work on porting it over to the muffwiki tomorrow, and adding the additional info I've received.

Now back to my regularly scheduled programming!: :guinness:
Thanks for this!!

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Post by Bryan B » Sun Jun 05, 2011 10:11 am

Very thorough post, it will be a great resource on the wiki!
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Post by diophantine » Sun Jun 05, 2011 11:35 am

Thanks guys! Working diligently on the wiki page and it is coming together quite well. I'll post the link later today when it is a bit more ready.

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Post by iopop » Sun Jun 05, 2011 12:00 pm

Another quite good resource for motm stuff, at least for all pics, is http://www.dragonflyalley.com/billAndWillMOTMSynth.htm

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Post by kindredlost » Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:05 pm

This is super-great! Thanks diophantine!! :hail: :hail:

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Post by Bryan B » Sun Jun 05, 2011 1:40 pm

100K Linear Dotcom Style Pots:
Mouser Part #31VA501-F
https://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDe ... y31VA501-F
Qty 1: $1.40
Qty 10: $1.12
Qty 100: $1.02

I bought a bunch of these for my last Triple Soft Sync Run and they are a great match.

For 100K Audio Pots:
Mouser Part #31VJ501-F
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Alp ... 1bk6As4%3d
Same pricing
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Post by megaohm » Sun Jun 05, 2011 3:43 pm

Don't overlook Small Bear.
They sell the exact same pots for less $.
Buy 100 from Small Bear and you save $17 compared to the Mouser price.

Small Bear will give you the quantity discounts EVEN IF YOU ORDER DIFFERENT VALUES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

example: buy ten pots of ten different values (10K, 100K, 50K, etc).
If the total amount of pots ordered equals 100, you will get all of those pots at the 100 quantity discount price ($85)!

:goo: :goo:

Bryan B wrote:100K Linear Dotcom Style Pots:
Mouser Part #31VA501-F
https://www.mouser.com/Search/ProductDe ... y31VA501-F
Qty 1: $1.40
Qty 10: $1.12
Qty 100: $1.02

I bought a bunch of these for my last Triple Soft Sync Run and they are a great match.

For 100K Audio Pots:
Mouser Part #31VJ501-F
http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Alp ... 1bk6As4%3d
Same pricing
www.MegaOhmAudio.com

Will work for pistachios

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Post by Bryan B » Sun Jun 05, 2011 4:09 pm

I agree with you on price, but in case you need more than 1 you have to go to mouser right now.
SmallBear: 100K Linear 24mm Alpha Pot (1 in stock)
http://www.smallbearelec.com/Detail.bok?no=9
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Post by diophantine » Sun Jun 05, 2011 5:02 pm

Alright, folks - here it is!

http://wiki.muffwiggler.com/wiki/5U_DIY_Resources

(I'll update the first post here in a minute.)

If folks want to add/update anything, feel free. Or if you don't feel comfortable in wiki-land, post here (or PM me) and I'll update. For the present, I'd like to keep it all on one page while it is getting hammered out, rather than being split off into separate articles.

There's a lot of Mouser numbers to add, and I particularly need info on dotcom switches, pushbuttons, and LEDs. Alternate, "popular", knobs for these styles would also be useful.

Anyhow, hope it lives up to expectations!

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Post by dude » Mon Dec 16, 2019 9:18 pm

does this link no longer exist?

does anyone know the large size stg style knobs on filters or the line of those knobs?

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Post by Thalassa » Tue Dec 17, 2019 12:18 am

If I'm not mistaken it's the Cosmo 7603. The diameter is 1,25 inches.
Smallbear sells clones of this knob

http://smallbear-electronics.mybigcomme ... r-5-black/

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Post by dude » Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:11 am

it appears the cosmo 7604 or even 7605 is what i am hoping to fit onto mankato. is there a source known for those or similar?

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Post by Conjure » Tue Dec 17, 2019 8:19 am

dude wrote:it appears the cosmo 7604 or even 7605 is what i am hoping to fit onto mankato. is there a source known for those or similar?
Email SynthCube, I believe they have COSMO knobs that aren't stocked on their website.

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Post by Thalassa » Tue Dec 17, 2019 10:28 am

dude wrote:it appears the cosmo 7604 or even 7605 is what i am hoping to fit onto mankato. is there a source known for those or similar?
in this picture from the stg site it looks like 7603

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but in this one also from his site it looks like a 7605

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The 7604 is really huge as you can see in the Moog Bode FS

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Post by dude » Tue Dec 17, 2019 11:12 am

yes yes exactly. the 7605 (in the middle) is what i hope to find. i messaged synthcube. we shall see what they have to say. if anyone has other leads i'd be grateful! :rast:

i think the 7604 is only ok on frequency shifters :lol:

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