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AudioGL: Apparently what Tron synthesizes with.
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Author AudioGL: Apparently what Tron synthesizes with.

LPHovercraft

Instead of sleeping, I decided I'd surf the net all night and see what I could find (besides porn). I stumbled upon what has to be one of the most compelling pieces of music software I've ever seen.

AudioGL.

It sounded nice, but it's nothing special until around 7:48, where he demonstrates it's automation system. My jaw hit the floor so hard, I thought I'd broke it (my jaw and the floor). Seriously. Check it out.


Bricks

Wow. Yeah. Some stuff Im not crazy about, but 3D visualization of modulation waves and signal flow is incredible!!


shred

"sea of automation" kinda made my skin tingle. very impressive, hope he gets the money to bring it to fruition


Oldstench

This is an incredible accomplishment.


mateo

Amazing, I really hope this comes out one day


moogah

Nuts. Fucking Nuts.

myheadasplode we're not worthy we're not worthy


Nelson Baboon

wow - there is absolutely nothing like that now. That is fantastic.


steampoweredsequencer

Amazing, but I cannot dedicate my life to quite that much automation...ever.


HueMonContact

WOW!!! This is a total jaw dropper!
So much modulation and automation possibilities.


LPHovercraft

Looking at it again, I have to admit that I'm a little overwhelmed by it. I mean, Max/MSP is already so complicated I get lost. I'm not sure I'd be able to handle this thing.

Still though, love


Hi5

This is much easier than Max/MSP.
All the basic building blocks have been made for you already.
The only thing I see that would need getting used to is the automation environment. It is still a basic modular system with fairly high level objects but a twist on organization and layout.
It sounds better than Max/MSP though.


emergencyofstate

Yes amazing. I'd like to think this guy will get funding easily based on what he already has + the future potential. If he ends up having to do a kickstarter campaign, I'll be supporting for sure.


LPHovercraft

Hi5 wrote:
This is much easier than Max/MSP.
All the basic building blocks have been made for you already.
The only thing I see that would need getting used to is the automation environment. It is still a basic modular system with fairly high level objects but a twist on organization and layout.
It sounds better than Max/MSP though.


Well, I think I'm primarily intimidated by the automation section. I'm still wrapping my brain around his exceedingly clever demonstration with one parallel processed oscillator. I'm beginning to really get it the more I think about it, but the amount of work it must have taken him to edit all those modulations is scary. Perhaps there are some automation tools that he hasn't revealed yet? hmmm.....

Oh, and I also thought it sounded better than Max/MSP. In fact, it sounds better than a lot of soft synths I've heard. I wonder what's going on with that? You think maybe it's possible to use audio-rate control signals in it? That's one reason u-he's ACE sounds so good.


Oldstench

LPHovercraft wrote:
I'm beginning to really get it the more I think about it, but the amount of work it must have taken him to edit all those modulations is scary. Perhaps there are some automation tools that he hasn't revealed yet? hmmm.....

It really just looks like NI's envelope editors on steroids. I hope that there's some copy/past n-amount option so you can just create one 4 bar automation pattern and copy it n-times. I also wonder what the time bar at the top of the screen is about.

I would pay to be a beta tester.


megaohm

Definitely looks pretty.
But what is so special about the automation?
Is it how it's displayed?
In that sense I thought it was cool because you can visualize the X and Y automation with one line.
The Z automation I don't get. It is essentially the time domain, right?
Can it speed up and slow down each Z automation line independently?


Johnisfaster

It obviously looks amazing, but.. why? Seems like the work flow of working with 3D automation would slow you down like crazy. I find it enough headache to zoom in and out and scroll back and forth in Ableton Live. With 3D you'd have to rotate the shit around constantly, and zoom, and right and left, then rotate some more so you can see it from the right angle.

"I can't see the Automation clearly, there is something behind it."

I don't know, maybe I'll convert later when I can use it and I'll "get it" but from first glance it looks like a way to waste an entire day on something that could have been made in an hour.


LPHovercraft

megaohm wrote:
Definitely looks pretty.
But what is so special about the automation?
Is it how it's displayed?
In that sense I thought it was cool because you can visualize the X and Y automation with one line.
The Z automation I don't get. It is essentially the time domain, right?
Can it speed up and slow down each Z automation line independently?


I have no idea. Ideally, whoever is doing this will get some funding and be able to answer these questions (I invited him here to answer questions, but I haven't heard anything yet). I would hope that you could run the Z automations at different speeds, but you could also fake that by just using polyrhythms. Not very elegant, though.


Oldstench

At 2:38 he says "You can create tempo changes, lots of tempo changes". That could be Z. seriously, i just don't get it


richard

been waiting a long time for something like this!


LPHovercraft

Johnisfaster wrote:
It obviously looks amazing, but.. why? Seems like the work flow of working with 3D automation would slow you down like crazy. I find it enough headache to zoom in and out and scroll back and forth in Ableton Live. With 3D you'd have to rotate the shit around constantly, and zoom, and right and left, then rotate some more so you can see it from the right angle.

"I can't see the Automation clearly, there is something behind it."

I don't know, maybe I'll convert later when I can use it and I'll "get it" but from first glance it looks like a way to waste an entire day on something that could have been made in an hour.


Okay, don't flame me too hard for this, but:

It obviously looks amazing, but.. why? Seems like the work flow of working with patch cords would slow you down like crazy. I find it enough headache to punch in and out and route back and forth in Ableton Live. With patch cords you'd have to plug shit in constantly, and unplug, and it's basically mono, then plug some more so you can record it into your DAW.

"I can't play it polyphonically, there is only one voice."

I don't know, maybe I'll convert later when I can afford it and I'll "get it" but from first glance it looks like a way to waste an entire day on something that could have been made in an hour.

razz


Johnisfaster

LPHovercraft wrote:
With patch cords you'd have to plug shit in constantly, and unplug, and it's basically mono, then plug some more so you can record it into your DAW.


Yes I see what you're doing there, very clever. But the modular is actually fun. And maybe audiogl will be too, but looking at that 3D automation just looks difficult to use. As in not fun. Pretty yes. Feature packed? I don't know... I wouldn't say that Automation is exactly ground breaking but then there could be a lot more to it than that. Alls I see, until I see more, is a DAW that is hard to navigate.


LPHovercraft

Johnisfaster wrote:
LPHovercraft wrote:
With patch cords you'd have to plug shit in constantly, and unplug, and it's basically mono, then plug some more so you can record it into your DAW.


Yes I see what you're doing there, very clever. But the modular is actually fun. And maybe audiogl will be too, but looking at that 3D automation just looks difficult to use. As in not fun. Pretty yes. Feature packed? I don't know... I wouldn't say that Automation is exactly ground breaking but then there could be a lot more to it than that. Alls I see, until I see more, is a DAW that is hard to navigate.


Ultimately I think you may be right, but we'll see where he takes it I suppose. One thing that's nice about the idea is that it's quite fun for an audience to watch. If you can, as the name suggests, integrate OpenGL graphics into it, then it would make for a pretty cool performance instrument. That's always a plus.


petejm

I didn't get the impression you actually edit anything in 3d, looked more like a funky visualisation of your finished track more than anything. The first half of the video where he creates a patch was all 2d and that interface looked pretty nice. He put together an interesting patch very quickly (okay, so he knows the software inside out but still...)

One to watch out for that's for sure!


dkcg

It's so entertaining to watch that I feel I'd get lost or distracted from watching it. Sounds great! Some of those reverb comb filter type sounds were beautiful. Feels almost like you should work it like Minority Report's screens, stereo glasses, motion captured hands and finger gestures, each one of those depths could be isolated. I could see someone like Daft Punk actually paying for development. Paying for this guy to live for a year or two wouldn't be much to pay for a slick Tron looking tool.


LPHovercraft

dkcg wrote:
It's so entertaining to watch that I feel I'd get lost or distracted from watching it. Sounds great! Some of those reverb comb filter type sounds were beautiful. Feels almost like you should work it like Minority Report's screens, stereo glasses, motion captured hands and finger gestures, each one of those depths could be isolated. I could see someone like Daft Punk actually paying for development. Paying for this guy to live for a year or two wouldn't be much to pay for a slick Tron looking tool.


I couldn't agree more. I hope he shows up in the thread eventually so he can read your comment, cause the idea of integrating something like a TouchOSC enabled iPad for control would be killer. Hell, just plain old OSC integration would be plenty good enough. Imagine being able to control this with something like Reactable, or maybe even a oversized multitouch screen like this.

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