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looking for opinions on pedal concept
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appliancide
My friend and I have build quite a few stompboxes between us and are thinking about doing a small run of dirt boxes this fall.

Here is basic rundown of the pedal so far:

-guitar signal gets split into two
-each signal goes through its own distortion circuit
-each distortion circuit has its own gain, distortion, and several clipping and overdrive options
-one side has a passive low pass similar to the tone control on a Rat or DS-1
-the other side has a passive high pass filter loosely based on the Big Muff tone circuit
-pot to mix or fade between the two distortion paths
-final volume control

All of that is built into a working pedal that I build for myself. Here is a picture:


Most of the toggle switches would be replaced with rotary switches.

Other things that we are considering:

-voltage control of the mix/fade
-voltage control of each filter's cutoff
-if VC of any parameters is implemented, CV range switchable between 0-5V and whatever CV range the Moogerfoogers use)
-built in lfo to modulate mix/fade or other parameters
-booster on output to compensate for heavy clipping or filtering

One of the drawbacks of VC parameters would be the limiting of an already small potential customer base. This might not be too big of a deal since we will probably only make about 10.

The boxes will probably be etched or engraved.

I have a lot of fun with mine. You can get some really nice timbral effects fading between the two "channels". Sometimes I even use it with my guitar.

Any thoughts from the stompbox users here?
zerosum
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One of the drawbacks of VC parameters would be the limiting of an already small potential customer base. This might not be too big of a deal since we will probably only make about 10.


I don't understand the "drawbacks" or "limiting of an already small potential customer base" seriously, i just don't get it

If customers don't understand what CV is, they don't have to use it, right? smile

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-voltage control of the mix/fade
-voltage control of each filter's cutoff

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James Mandible
appliancide wrote:

One of the drawbacks of VC parameters would be the limiting of an already small potential customer base. This might not be too big of a deal since we will probably only make about 10.


This is probably only a big deal if it drastically enhances the price. Outside of that it's like what zerosum said and users would probably just ignore it.

It's a cool concept, I'd definitely be game for trying one out, depending on cuz I'm typically broke MY ASS IS BLEEDING
Johnisfaster
The small potential customer base are the guitar players who don't want CV, you could choose not to add it cause those dudes don't want it, but since you won't lose any of those dudes by adding it and you'd gain a whole bunch of the modular crowd I see it as a wise move to open up your market. IMHO.

I'd be interested in one a if it had CV control.
Bricks
Awesome!

http://www.schumannelectronics.com/two_face.html

once inspired some similar thoughts. I then also found http://www.paia.com/proddetail.asp?prod=6720K

but your unit with CV sounds even more interesting than those to me, tbh
appliancide
Bricks wrote:
Awesome!

http://www.schumannelectronics.com/two_face.html

once inspired some similar thoughts. I then also found http://www.paia.com/proddetail.asp?prod=6720K

but your unit with CV sounds even more interesting than those to me, tbh


Re: the Schumann pedal. That's actually dipping into the some of the same territory. The two signals in my pedal are the same until they are processed. But, some of switches on my pedal (the blue/white and black/white pairs) are able to clip the upper or lower part of the waveform separately.

Re: Quadrafuzz. There is not much territory that Craig Anderton hasn't covered is there? Again, no EQ is applied until after the signal is split into two identical signals on my pedal. Then you have the option of overdriving the signal in the feedback path of the opamp . This is selected with the two switches with the flat paddles. Center is overdrive off, and the other two choices are LED overdrive (like the quadrafuzz) or germanium overdrive (a pair of transistors wired as diodes).

For those of you that have tinkered with stompboxes, this pedal is heavily influenced by the work of Jack Orman http://www.muzique.com/ , Dano http://www.beavisaudio.com/ ,and Craig Anderton http://www.craiganderton.com/ .

Once we have the design finallized, we will post the schematics for those that want to roll their own.
MrDys
Guitarists care about CV if you call it "expression pedal input".
Danotranto
another pedal that does this is the Crazy Horse which is supposed to emulate Neil Youngs distortio/fuzz/sagging on fire tweed


I think its a cool Idea, maybe vary the distortions a bit to be more eccentric however? like a clean/dirty boost like a lovepedal amp 50 and a wierd distortion unit like a gonkulator or fenderblender
Kayzer
Looks pretty decent, when i got it right its pretty close to the Empress Multi Drive (Fuzz/Distortion/OD can be blended together on this monster…)
appliancide
I should point out that there is no "real" fuzz on this pedal. Germanium transistors and diodes are used in the overdrive and clipping parts of the pedal, so it is capable of some nice fizzy/fuzzy sounds. That coupled with the nasal quality of the high pass filter can get you into the same sonic territory, but the behavior of the pedal will be a bit different than a true fuzz.

Voltage sag is certainly worth playing with though. Time to dig out a fresh bread board...
n0rth
Well, as a guitarist who's owned a Moogerfooger for a good many years - I never gave the CV inputs a 2nd glance until recently getting a bit more synth savvy. I was thinking about selling it up to that point, but now it's the thing I'd run into a burning building to save.

In short, CV +1!
Holy Katana
I'd buy one. It sounds like something I'd come up with, but since I'm a noob to building pedals, I wouldn't be able to do it.

Are there any particular pedals the actual distortion circuits are based on, or are they new designs?
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