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mantiwhore
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PostPosted:     Post subject: And yet another euro player.

http://www.alyseum.com/product_MS-812.php

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Popski
The Cake is a Pie






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how dare they clearly label the power connections!!

goes against tradition
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pulplogic
Wiggling with Experience






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This is interesting. Any idea what the CV resolution is?


Popski wrote:
how dare they clearly label the power connections!!

goes against tradition


You better label it when you put -12V at the top.
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asterisk
Super Deluxe Wiggler






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interesting.
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Junk Rhythm
Big Bottom Shaker






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The Alyseum MS-812 is an embedded computer Board, using Ethernet network to Convert MIDI or CopperLan messages to CV and digital control voltages as used in modular and analog synthesizers.

This first Alyseum product dedicated to modular synthesizers offers 8 CV outputs and 12 digital outputs.

A SYNC24 interface is included as an alternative function on digital output jacks.

MS-812 are supplied ready to use, the actual linking is managed via the CopperLan Manager software. This freeware tool is also used to monitor the status of all CopperLan computers and equipment. The module can be controlled from any computer anywhere in the network.

The MS-812 is built around a powerful 32-bit processor offering 120 DMIPS.



Features in MIDI mode

•Modular MIDI interface to 8 CV Out and 12 Digital output.
•100% MIDI compatible via CopperLan.
•Free assignment of MIDI channels and controllers.
•Full MIDI range (128 notes= 0 to plus 10 Volts 2/3).
•Multiple simultaneous clock outputs.
•MIDI to SYNC 24 converter.
•100 Base-T Ethernet interface.
•Auto-MDIX allows using straight-trough or cross-over UTP cable.

Features in CopperLan mode
Same as above, plus:

•Full CopperLan pitch range = from minus 10 Volts 2/3 to plus 10 Volts 2/3.
•Octal high-resolution converter - 16 bits (Analog Device).
•Each CV Out can be used as note, setting or modulation.
•Each DIG Out can be assigned as a Gate, Clock, Reset, control, ...
•VoiceID management.


pulplogic wrote:
This is interesting. Any idea what the CV resolution is?


Looks to be 16-bits.
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jfloftin
Wiggling with Experience






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Interesting device...
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stk
Super Deluxe Wiggler






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Very interesting
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mamonu
90s ambient miscreant!!






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and whats more....
frac too...
very nice smile

the gods of modular are smiling upon us...
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blz
Ultra Wiggler






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desire/lust rising........
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Junk Rhythm
Big Bottom Shaker






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Listed for 399.00 € at Schneidersladen
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JJ
Veteran Wiggler






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This video describes copperlan quite nicely:

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Yeuky
Common Wiggler






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You just totally stole a module I've been working on for 3 months.

Anyhoo, looks great! applause
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paults
mice nuts






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I will make a guess the DAC is this part:

http://www.analog.com/static/imported-files/data_sheets/AD5629R_5669R. pdf

Which according to specs is ~ 14bit accuracy on average, could be 12-bits if you get a 'bad one'. Should be fine for most folks.

True 16-bit accurate DACs are about $15 each. For 1 output Dead Banana

You can of course mux that if you also hold the signal path to that accuracy over temp (which is also expensive, requires 0.1% low ppm resistors and low DC drift op amps like a AD822).
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Matos
Modular masturbator






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Copperlan is pretty interesting. This is the first I've heard of such a technology. Peter kirn should write up an overview to explain the possibilities.
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SMS303
Tha BABELFISH Wiggler...






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Matos wrote:
This is the first I've heard of such a technology. Peter kirn should write up an overview to explain the possibilities.

+1.... and some realtime use vids, please cool

Do i understand the possibillities well:
it does work like Doepfer's MCV24 but,
it ain't use MIDI but LAN connection directly from your computer which sent control data from Ableton/Cubase/etc?

there's so many delicious sweetness in the modular candyshop....
can't have them all Dead Banana
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ignatius
Super Deluxe Wiggler






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what are the digital outputs all about? i'm missing something.
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Junk Rhythm
Big Bottom Shaker






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ignatius wrote:
what are the digital outputs all about? i'm missing something.


Most likely gates/triggers/clock.

Yeuky wrote:
You just totally stole a module I've been working on for 3 months.

Anyhoo, looks great! applause


There is always room for more. Guinness ftw!
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ignatius
Super Deluxe Wiggler






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Junk Rhythm wrote:
ignatius wrote:
what are the digital outputs all about? i'm missing something.


Most likely gates/triggers/clock.


ok. that makes sense. i got thrown my the labeling i guess.
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asterisk
Super Deluxe Wiggler






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i wonder if this thing can do more discrete CV steps in copperlan mode than in midi mode?
also, would be interested to see if this module would work with max/msp.
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mr chombee
Common Wiggler






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Great module. I just wish it also had some CV/gate inputs.
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JJ
Veteran Wiggler






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There is an very informative discussion about CopperLan on KVR:
http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=296783&start=0&postdays= 0&postorder=asc&highlight=
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Ankh
Common Wiggler






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The product descriptions are bordering on too technical. So can this be used with say Silent Way, or is all it does convert MIDI to CV through some virtual MIDI port? Or is it something else entirely? seriously, i just don't get it
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poladark
Wiggling with Experience






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I love the idea...

But... from a purely technical standpoint.... There doesn't seem to be a public document specifying the protocol - yet they claim that the CopperLAN protocol is "open". Not using IP seems like a serious disadvantage. How are you supposed to use this with existing network infrastructure? Can i use my enterprise class Cisco switches and routers with CopperLAN? What if i want to collaborate with a person downstairs or in a different office? The advantage of using Ethernet with CopperLAN is not so obvious if I'd have to design a physically separate network to use it.

If i wanted to invest in CopperLAN audio infrastructure it would need to be a technically sound solution.
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JJ
Veteran Wiggler






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Download the copperlan software and try, it's free.
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jln
Common Wiggler






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I must say I am really excited by this product. I saw a demo (including a midi->CV prototype) quite some time ago during a conference at Ircam in Paris and it was veeeery impressive.

asterisk wrote:

also, would be interested to see if this module would work with max/msp.


This will work with Max using Midi ports.

Actually, a CopperLan external was even developed within the Plateforme Virage. THIS is the real deal as it not only allows send/receiving values but also building and querying the network of CopperLan devices, etc. The bad news is although the external is still available from here, it is currently broken since some changes in the CopperLan SDK.

I think it is also worth mentioning that there has been some discussion/desire to develop or port such an external as a plugin for the upcoming 0.6 implementation of Jamoma Modular in Max. Just hope some dev will jump in to make it happen soon.
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