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PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:00 pm    Post subject: advanced dubstep wobble modulation possible on analog? Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

anyone know how to do this kind of complex modulation at around 0:21? it sounds like a combination of an LFO and maybe FM and realtime use of a mod wheel? really cool sound.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

forget it - just found a good example using Make Noise Pressure Points

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

If you don´t need it live within one patch, i´d say sample different sounds with different modulation speed and rearrange. Gives more variety and a good flow for sth that works

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

good excuse to get an MPC I guess hmmm.....
thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

You could use silent way, either by automating the silent way LFO speed or using the automation in your DAW to control
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

bouzoukijoe1 wrote:
forget it - just found a good example using Make Noise Pressure Points



On this video I'm using one pressure points for pitch and the other controlling a vcLFO.

The final result is the bassline in this remix I did.

http://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/track/detail/3020594/hirosh ima+burn+ivardensphere+mix
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

nice.

I was playing with some more patches and I came to the conclusion that to get that kind of variety in LFO rates from note to note, I need a LFO with a very wide range of modulation. most LFOs I think are set to narrow ranges so it won't let you jump from low frequency to near-audio rates in rapid succession. though I guess you could prepare multiple LFOs at different ranges and trigger different ones, but you still couldn't sweep that far in a single envelope trigger (unless maybe you layer LFOs - hmm).

I figure since most of this kind of stuff is done in software (Massive?), it's no problem setting many different modulation rates/ranges on the fly. much harder to do with analog gear.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 11, 2011 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Exactly! In the video I'm using an oscillator (Cwejman VCO-2RM) as the LFO and a different oscillator (Macbeth Dual) for the audio. Using the Cwejman really opened up the range.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2012 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Hello,

I am French so I hope you understand me, if this is not the case, it is the fault has google translation!

I created the same sort of subject on a French site which most users also squat on muffwigler and it is clear that one can make nasty wobble with modules but it takes quite a bit.


2 people on this link you tried to do a dubstep track with their modular:
http://www.synthe-modulaire.com/t437-tuto-exemple-de-wobble-bass-dubst ep#7457
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

dubstep was always a software based music - a product of either FruityLoops or NI Massive, depending on who you ask - not sure what the point is of trying to imitate this sound with hardware. seriously, i just don't get it
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

We can create a special modular wobble bass.This is what I'm doing but is it expensive and is not the easiest solution, that 's on!

Like that I could make manufacture my wobbles and resampled as in the example of the video. to dubstep with the hardware it requires a lot of synth and a sampler, is more expensive than the software (though given the price of software) but it allows for a different sound of dubstep business and very good for live.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

50quidsoundboy wrote:
dubstep was always a software based music - a product of either FruityLoops or NI Massive, depending on who you ask - not sure what the point is of trying to imitate this sound with hardware. seriously, i just don't get it


because they fuckin want to.

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that being said I fucking hate dubstep. it's just so grating to me.

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As a person interested in VD (vintage dance) this is pleasing to me.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 5:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I'm not into dubstep at all either, but sometimes it's nice to find out just how sounds are made, techniques that can be used elsewhere.

The combo Pressure Points & Pingable Envelope Generator is a great way to make all kind of wobbly sounds, made a quick shakey demo:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:40 pm    Post subject: Peg Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Must get peg
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

The first thing i did with my peg was make a self generating wobble bass patch with the anti osc as a joke. But then it turned out to sound so friggin fat i had to use the patch in a track. Im so ashamed...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

^ haha same here, I couldn't care less for wobbles really, but it does have its place I suppose.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Case is wobbling just as much as the bass cool
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

I thought Dubsteppers were too "I do everything with my Macbook" to want to use analog gear... eek!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

joel1088 wrote:
I thought Dubsteppers were too "I do everything with my Macbook" to want to use analog gear... eek!


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https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=26828&postdays=0&pos torder=asc&highlight=wobblist&start=60
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

joel1088 wrote:
I thought Dubsteppers were too "I do everything with my Macbook" to want to use analog gear... eek!


naw naw, if it's a MOOG VOYAGER then it's aight.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

FWIW, a lot of the crazy modulation in drum & bass is done with a lot of individual samples (separate) that are chained together. Just like people don't get these sounds out of a single Massive patch, I think if you want to make these sounds in modular, you'll also be limiting yourself. Check out:



Skip to 6:40

Also, Filter Bank screaming goo yo
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

Cool video /\ - shows you that nothing can replace time and effort!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote Add User to Ignore List

[quote="bodo"]I'm not into dubstep at all either, but sometimes it's nice to find out just how sounds are made, techniques that can be used elsewhere.


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With an ES-3, I think there are ways to have fun.
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