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hpsounds
eek!



French guys rock !!! 8_) ... even if the design is lame IMHO...

hihi hyper Rockin' Banana!

Hédi K.
qu.one
wow. i think it looks great.
jessem
dedicated vibrato lfo :B
tIB
pretty cool! steiner parker filter and cv and gate i/o!
flashheart
No one expects the Spanish Inquisition, or this from Arturia of all people. eek!

Small portable MIDI synth with CV/gate out? V interesting. Nice to see they haven't gone with 'a classic Moog ladder filter'(finally!). Looks like there's some wavefolding going on with the triangle wave too.
Oldstench
How much? Can this replace a 101?
mjsemtex
wow... can't wait to find out pricing.
tIB
499 euro.
StepLogik
I like the panel layout - wish it was more colorful lol

Sounds quite good, has a nice feature set, all the I/O you could need, has velocity/aftertouch keyboard, metal chassis... not bad for that price!
hpsounds
I should mention that all the analog design was made by one of the french SDIY specialist Yves Usson. Many in the SDIY community know him !

Here is his website : http://yusynth.net/

we're not worthy we're not worthy applause applause love love

Hédi K.
tIB
^ Not bad at all... part of me wishes it had a second osc but at that price and with those features Id happily run another into it. wonder how quick the envs are...
eXode
This for me has been a big surprise! First when I saw the pictures I thought that the design was horrible (still do think it's horrible) and I thought that it was some new kind of plugin and/or VA based when I saw that first teaser.

But after seeing the introduction video I'm well amazed and impressed tbh. Really well played Arturia!

Is it just me or anyone else that thinks that the effect on the triangle sounds a bit like a wavefolder? Cool stuff either way, can't wait till I hear more demos!
eXode
tIB wrote:
^ Not bad at all... part of me wishes it had a second osc but at that price and with those features Id happily run another into it. wonder how quick the envs are...


I don't know but the envelopes have a "slow" and "fast" switch so hopefully they're quite snappy!
tIB
^ if they are super snappy I might well end up a customer!
newgreyarea
$499euro? Woah! That should put it in the $500-$650 range Stateside, right? I'll scoop one up for that. Probably wont see it until summer though.
Oldstench
tIB wrote:
^ if they are super snappy I might well end up a customer!

You kids and your snappy envelopes. In my day they were slow as an old man in bed with a $2 hooker and we liked it.
Matos
Yes! Seems like cv out is in this year. We're taking over bitches. Bow down to our cv prowess.
MechaSeb
eXode wrote:

Is it just me or anyone else that thinks that the effect on the triangle sounds a bit like a wavefolder? Cool stuff either way, can't wait till I hear more demos!


Looking at the demo video, i'm pretty sure it IS a wavefolder (add harmonics to a pure waveform... triangle though). Also, Yves designed a WaveFolder module for his modular synth project. So... Another good point, it can be modulate by a Env/LFO !!

Also, it's a really nice choice to implement the saw animator circuit and the steiner filter ! You rocks Yves, really ! thumbs up
algorhythm
Heh, yeah, didn't see this coming... but, we shouldn't be too surprised given the direction Arturia has taken. It's ironic how a softsynth company has come full-circle. So, I guess a poly version will be next, no doubt... interesting time for analogue monosynths! The Minitaur should retail for about the same amount.... Given the specs, this is could be a real winner.

Now, I wonder how Korg will react to this... they're getting closer to a full synth... maybe the (anticipated) success of this will push them over?
Morley
I can;t watch the video. Private?
Norman_Phay
"this video is private" confused
MrDys
This is what I would want in a keyboard-style analog monosynth. Lots of different sound modifying options, knobs/sliders for every parameter. It's pretty perfect. With the arpeggiator, I could even care less that it doesn't have an internal sequencer. Just plonk down on some keys, hit hold, and go knob twisty for days.
mome rath
"This video is private."
astroschnautzer
@ 499€ this is a nobrainer, the sound seems nice too, fat in a modern way...
jessem
I hope the arp has a trigger input on the back
jenamu6
This is such a nice Namm surprise.
Kent
I bet you that they fucked up and released the video one day early. They simply made it private to lock 'er down.
computer controlled
Would have liked to see a sequencer ala 101 over the Arp, but if it has a trigger in, then good enough. Ugly as all hell, and hopefully the one osc is beefy.
flashheart
The one Osc has saw animation (similar to the Cynthia and Doepfer modules I think though there did seem to be detuning rather than just phasing) well as wavefolding on the triangle wave ... Square or sine 1 / 2 octave down suboscillator. Sounded pretty good on the vid I thought.
de_raaf
http://yves-usson.fr/MINIBRUTE/MiniBrute-catalogue.pdf
http://yves-usson.fr/MINIBRUTE/minibrute-flyer.pdf


i most say i'm getting gas over this small one
computer controlled
Unfortunately i didn't get to see the vid. I do think however, that this WILL sound great! Might have to sell of the Ultranova.... maybe...
de_raaf
kind of like the ugly duck looks, it kind of looks like a typewriter in someway ha ha
nikmis
there is this link in german with a little demo at the bottom
http://www.amazona.de/index.php?page=26&file=2&article_id=3824
jessem
I see a gate in but no trigger in. If the arp can't be triggered from an 808 etc... I would be very bummed out :(
computer controlled
Here is a better pic. Isn't as ugly as i had originally thought:

wavecircle
I thought this was going to be another tiresome piece of software.

This is fucking great and long overdue. It might kick start other companies into making analogue hardware. I am almost glad I had to send back the sh101, this would be perfect with a modular.
negativspace
If Yves is in on the design, I'm sure it sounds great. This isn't the kind of thing I'm in the market for but it's pretty awesome nonetheless.
CalvaryBand
It's a good move for Arturia. I think this will benefit their name considerably as long as the build quality is up to snuff.

I can't say I'm not glad I auctioned off my 2 SH-101s last week. What perfect, incidental timing, haha.
hpsounds
computer controlled wrote:
Here is a better pic. Isn't as ugly as i had originally thought.

Now it looks nice ! I like it ! hyper

Hey ! It's a french design ! An analog french synth ! Isn't it incredible !!! hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper

Oups ! ... I'm in Iceland now ...








... yes, but it's a french design ! hihi d'oh!

Hédi K.

... sorry oops oops oops
MechaSeb
hpsounds wrote:
computer controlled wrote:
Here is a better pic. Isn't as ugly as i had originally thought.

Now it looks nice ! I like it ! hyper

Hey ! It's a french design ! An analog french synth ! Isn't it incredible !!! hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper hyper


You're so french ! applause applause
richard
sounds pretty tight. looks like analog is going to get so popular I might have to go back to digital
Peake
I'll wait for the software version.

you kids get off my lawn

For the sarcasm impaired:

razz
James Mandible
I think it looks great, myself. Loving that super knobby interface! This might be somewhere in my future.
hpsounds
MechaSeb wrote:
You're so french ! applause applause


Ég er ekki frönsk, ég er islenskt frönsk núna ! ... Im not french anymore, I'm a french icelander now hihi hihi hihi

... like maybe some french japanese guy oops oops oops

Sorry of this OFF TOPIC.

Hédi K.
Rymf
mckenic
MiniMoog
Minitaur
Minibrute

I need a new analog evolving soundscape machine called MaxiPad!
hihi

This looks wicked! Well done Arturia - thumbs up Someone FINALLY listened!
Now if I could just see that video!
obscurerobot
richard wrote:
sounds pretty tight. looks like analog is going to get so popular I might have to go back to digital


Time to buy up all the Korg Z1s before the '90s digital renaissance happens.
Sir Ruff
mckenic wrote:
I need a new analog evolving soundscape machine called MaxiPad!
hihi

I'm sure it will have a very fluid sound....

heyo!
Peake
Quite obviously, this is up against the Minitaur...but with an entirely different sound. Very interesting, and big props to Yves!
Rod Serling Fan Club
Miniwho?
beyourdog
Yeah, I feel very supportive because there as CV in and out as well so i can use it as a controller for my synths, hoping the arpegiator out works and is interesting like the one on an SH101,

... there is midi, it is a new modern analog synth with a good price tag...and a keyboard, there are sliders and i love them, Yusynth (great man) provided his insight AND...

...it is not the 23rd reedition of a Moog low Pass filter...yeah

Voila, merci Artutia, enfin un truc qui change un peu des spaghettis....
Spanningtree
Morley wrote:
I can;t watch the video. Private?


Got the same thing, what gives?
Dr. Sketch-n-Etch
computer controlled wrote:
Here is a better pic. Isn't as ugly as i had originally thought:

It's gorgeous, actually. I wonder if it comes in other colours? In any case, it's giving me all sorts of strange and wonderful ideas...
James Mandible
Wondering if it'll come in a keyless version too?
James Mandible
Fuck eek!

Only $500 and we're only at the pre-order stage.

http://www.novamusik.com/search.aspx?type=Model&keyword=13767&mid=447& lbs=12
rekem1000
At that price they're going to sell a ton of these.
tonnu
THIS IS GONNA BE THE START OF SOMETHING BEAUTIFUL, please help them sell a shitload of these little fuckers, and the analog resurgence will begin!

when i saw the feature set i thought they were sneaking around muff's: wavefolder, waveform animator, feedback, cv out's, etc. but it all makes sense now given who designs them

at first i thought 1 VCO was a bit of a deal killer for me, but with cv outs i can patch another osc from my euro easily.

seriously, regardless of the sound, Arturia REALLY, REALLY did well this time. props to them.
timcoster
Wow this is pretty awesome, If this had existed 18 months ago I wouldn't have "wasted" $$ buying an Arturia 25 keyboard to use with my Dark Energy. Maybe they saw I'd never used the software (apart from pointlessly installing the software and then never using it), and got the idea.

Only the price of 5x Monotrons when they first came out too! Times change so fast.
CalvaryBand
timcoster wrote:
Wow this is pretty awesome, If this had existed 18 months ago I wouldn't have "wasted" $$ buying an Arturia 25 keyboard to use with my Dark Energy. Maybe they saw I'd never used the software (apart from pointlessly installing the software and then never using it), and got the idea.

Only the price of 5x Monotrons when they first came out too! Times change so fast.


How is the arturia controller in terms of build quality? I preordered this unit and am kind of wondering about how sturdy it is (500 dollars is kind of insane).
Johnisfaster
Is a maxibrute on the way?
Sir Ruff
CalvaryBand wrote:
How is the arturia controller in terms of build quality? I preordered this unit and am kind of wondering about how sturdy it is (500 dollars is kind of insane).


Presumably that doesn't matter if you alredy pre-ordered it? razz (though I agree, $500 pretty much makes it a no brainer). Aluminum casing is a good sign.
timcoster
CalvaryBand wrote:

How is the arturia controller in terms of build quality? I preordered this unit and am kind of wondering about how sturdy it is (500 dollars is kind of insane).


It's actually pretty good - it's very heavy, and all the buttons and keys feel fine.

And the silly sticky-out joystick fake pitch-wheel hasn't even fallen off! Cool that they ditched the fake wood and went more batmobile for this new one too.
noobyscooby
It looks fantastic. And I like the tweaks they've offered compared to the recent norm. Why not use the Synthacon filter? It's cool that like on the Octave Cat SRM you can mix all the waveforms together. Love the potential of the arpeggiator which has a fewmore added features than your typical one. Tap tempo and swing? Fuck yeah. I just hope it transmits over MIDI and CV/Gate and isn't just for the internal synth.

You could have quite the powerhouse with one of these, a Minitaur, a new SEM and a Dark Energy. All brand new synths. It's quite crazy.

The market is so interesting now, I'm just wondering what's encouraging the shift by these larger companies?

Has the profit in the soft synth market been crushed by people selling iPad apps for next to nothing? Are there just too many people making soft synths now? Have some people at these larger companies been seeing what basic 1-osc vintage monosynths go for and figure we can make new products and still clean up if people are willing to still pay $500-$600 for one?

Or has the world using CV/Gate control gotten large enough that these companies are finally listening? Knobby monosynths being all the rage in 2011, maybe after 30 years analog has won? Or maybe the ADD/OCD generation of today has no interest in menu diving anymore and just wants knobs, knobs, knobs and instant gratification.

There's never been a better time to be into analog synths. New ones are coming out and the old ones are still available. Barring a handful of the most overpriced vintages, they're all quite accessible.

I figured I was done with buying any new analog monos but might be able to make room for this one. After I see the reviews and initial reaction...

It will be interesting to see what Arturia does if this is popular. Lord knows they have boatloads of money from their softsynth success.
SepticUnderground
$499 is a fucking steal

even as midi 2 cv interface/keyboard with onboard arp it is almost worth its money.

Those sliders looks very sturdy also

The companies saw the interest in the monotron/dark energy and pafff...

moog
arturia

and what more to come
mckenic
I blame Korg - I think other manufacturers might have been surprised at how popular the Trons/Tribes have been!

Now I just hope it translates to the equivalent € to $500... and not €500!
dogoftears
too cool! ill almost have to get one of these. i like the looks of it. can't wait to play with it at NAMM!
akai, you're one step behind... check out Arturia's new keyboard!
gwaidan
Whoah...Arturia making an Yves Usson analog synth with an endorsement from Nyle Steiner? Bacon is going to be expensive now that all the pigs have flown away.... hihi

Seriously, I wouldn't want to be trying to sell a MoPho keyboard right now.
James Mandible
CalvaryBand wrote:
I preordered this unit and am kind of wondering about how sturdy it is (500 dollars is kind of insane).


Going off pics alone, this thing looks quite well-built. I guess there COULD be a nasty surprise quality wise but somehow I don't think so, Arturia's a big enough company to know better (hopefully) and be able to pull off something like this. I think after Korg proved analog could be done cheaply companies started to re-look at what could be done these days.

Shame I still can't see that video, really wanna know what this thing sounds like! I assume it'll be back up in a day or so though.

Did they happen to give you any kind of shipping time estimate? I'm guessing it's not HORRIBLY far off if they're taking orders already, but you never know.
essex sound lab
gwaidan wrote:
Whoah...Arturia making an Yves Usson analog synth with an endorsement from Nyle Steiner?


Nicely put. This blew me away too. And they did it at a great price as a bonus. Talk about unexpected!
oootini
applause applause applause
theabsent
For the first time in more than 5 (or maybe 10) years I'm interested in a new synth which has a keyboard. I'll propably buy this.

It looks a bit deep. Any info on the size?

Where to pre-order in Europe?
joey
buying this shit day 1.
suboptimal
I started to get excited then I saw I can only put the CV out into my vintage gear. I don't have any vintage gear. waah

I can't believe this product is real. It's just too cool for that price. If I had any space at all for this thing I'd have to buy it at some point.
amnesia
be great for wood sides as an option :-)
eXode
It's actually quite funny. When I first saw that teaser I thought "Different?", they've done a VA VSTi instead of an Emulation VSTi" (I'm sure that's what a lot of people thought also) and now this has quickly become one of the most exciting if not the most exciting product of NAMM 2012 (for me).
Peake
I think it's 500EU.
eXode
Peake wrote:
I think it's 500EU.


Suggested retail (according to the flyer/brochure):

499 EUR
549 USD

But I see Nova Musik is already accepting pre-orders at 499 USD!
Morley
For €500, it looks like a great little thing.
Peake
Thanks eXode, that's a great exchange rate!
Peake
Saying it again, bravo to Yves, and for the decision to go with a non-standard filter. Get ready to hear lots of tracks with the Steiner spice!
computer controlled
MIDI out from (insert sequencer of choice here) to MIDI in of Minibrute, CV/Gate out from Mb to CV/Gate in on the ol SEM PP, VCA out of SEM into Audio in of Mb = 3 VCO badassness!
mckenic
eXode wrote:
Peake wrote:
I think it's 500EU.


Suggested retail (according to the flyer/brochure):

499 EUR
549 USD

But I see Nova Musik is already accepting pre-orders at 499 USD!


FFS! very frustrating

Ok not gonna rant as this looks really cool and I want one but now it will have to be second Hand or from the US...
Parametex
Affordable is the new black!

It's peanut butter jelly time!
Drumdrumdrumdrum
w00t
radiokoala
Man, I just thought that if you use it as a controller, you have a very visual 14-channel mixer. Badass isn't it? It's motherfucking bacon yo

Oldstench wrote:
tIB wrote:
^ if they are super snappy I might well end up a customer!

You kids and your snappy envelopes. In my day they were slow as an old man in bed with a $2 hooker and we liked it.

lol very frustrating applause
MrDys wrote:
Just plonk down on some keys, hit hold, and go knob twisty for days.

You guys are making my day with your posts in this topic This is fun! This line is not only signature-worthy, it's like a definitive motto of a synthesist. I mean... Plonk down on some keys, hit hold, and go knob twisty for days – no one could've put into words it better d'oh!
computer controlled
Wonder when the release date is.
Spir4L
I actually NEED to see it in action... very frustrating
abstraktor
looks like Arturia have been trawling through Muffs and Matrixsynth for ideas for this synth...no bad thing, of course.
I think the feature set looks very good for something that could be considered a "niche" product, but the analogue renaissance shows no signs of slowing down at the moment.
Moog, Mode Machines, Doepfer, DSI, Korg....and now Arturia.
No Roland?
Can we expect to see the bottom falling out the 2nd hand SH101 market soon? hihi
Now over to you Korg!
Morley
The more modern interpretations, the higher the vintage ones go it seems!

Hopefully a video appears of this...
Steiner filter is already a great feature.
abstraktor
Morley wrote:
The more modern interpretations, the higher the vintage ones go it seems!

Hopefully a video appears of this...
Steiner filter is already a great feature.


Yep, the Synthacon filter would swing me towards it too.....I'm not that fond of the Moog ladder....(heresy!) evil
LoFi Junglist
Here's a working video/Add.

dogoftears
LoFi Junglist wrote:
Here's a working video/Add.



why does that video have to suck so much
cant wait to get my grubby little paws on it and immediately see if the LFO goes to audio rate for FM.
mckenic
They have to know that after serious gear heads get their hands on it and actually explore the features - no-one will ever watch that video again!

Its their only chance to rack-up some views hihi
computer controlled
Lame hipster video nftw!
abstraktor
Without dissing the synth , you can see the market they're aiming for with the crap vid!
Flop haired hipsters of the world unite! you have nothing to lose except your VSTs! (could be worse, they might have got David Guetta to endorse it) lol
Spir4L
What is that usb connection worth ? hmmm.....
radiokoala
abstraktor wrote:
Without dissing the synth , you can see the market they're aiming for with the crap vid!
Flop haired hipsters of the world unite! you have nothing to lose except your VSTs! (could be worse, they might have got David Guetta to endorse it) lol

What's wrong with their target audience being young people? I'm 22, and oh, I'm just sitting at my job in skinny jeans, flannel and - you won't believe it! - checkered slip-ons. I have an afro too, so technically I am a 'hipster'. Does that all mean that I do not qualify to use synths in my musical work? Should I wait unless I'm in my mid-forties or should I not be allowed to use analog gear unless I change my appearance? meh
computer controlled
Spir4L wrote:
What is that usb connection worth ? hmmm.....


One Arp trigger input. I'd much rather see that than a USB connection.
SourceDist
Hi All - we're the UK distributor for Arturia - it would seem the MiniBrute is the worst kept secret of NAMM so far! Great secret though, it's amazing - we're really impressed with what they've managed to pull off at this price hihi

I've not actually had my hands on one yet, but have had some information ahead of today. The envelopes can go very fast, ie. (close to if not actually) 1ms, and should slow to around 10 seconds per stage. The Ultrasaw is akin to the Doepfer A-137-2, and I believe it is an implementation of Yusynth's Saw Animator:

http://yusynth.net/Modular/EN/SAWANIM/index.html

...and Metalizer seems like a Wavefolder, and very likely it'll be a similar design to the Yusynth one too:

http://yusynth.net/Modular/EN/WAVEFOLDER/index.html

When we have one in (should be under two weeks), I'll do a video on it - have a Eurorack modular too, so it'll get hooked up to that.

Yves Usson should be on here, presumably? He'd be the best person to confirm details.
computer controlled
radiokoala wrote:
abstraktor wrote:
Without dissing the synth , you can see the market they're aiming for with the crap vid!
Flop haired hipsters of the world unite! you have nothing to lose except your VSTs! (could be worse, they might have got David Guetta to endorse it) lol

What's wrong with their target audience being young people? I'm 22, and oh, I'm just sitting at my job in skinny jeans, flannel and - you won't believe it! - checkered slip-ons. I have an afro too, so technically I am a 'hipster'. Does that all mean that I do not qualify to use synths in my musical work? Should I wait unless I'm in my mid-forties or should I not be allowed to use analog gear unless I change my appearance? meh


If you were a true hipster, you wouldn't be here. Seeing as they have no care in the world how synths actually work, only in how they make them look.
LoFi Junglist
radiokoala wrote:
abstraktor wrote:
Without dissing the synth , you can see the market they're aiming for with the crap vid!
Flop haired hipsters of the world unite! you have nothing to lose except your VSTs! (could be worse, they might have got David Guetta to endorse it) lol

What's wrong with their target audience being young people? I'm 22, and oh, I'm just sitting at my job in skinny jeans, flannel and - you won't believe it! - checkered slip-ons. I have an afro too, so technically I am a 'hipster'. Does that all mean that I do not qualify to use synths in my musical work? Should I wait unless I'm in my mid-forties or should I not be allowed to use analog gear unless I change my appearance? meh


bah, i think everyone here's chill with any type of appearance, music tastes etc thumbs up
radiokoala
SourceDist wrote:
When we have one in (should be under two weeks), I'll do a video on it - have a Eurorack modular too, so it'll get hooked up to that.

Very cool. That's what Moog failed to do This is fun!
computer controlled
Moog also is catering to the hipster crowd. d'oh!
SourceDist
radiokoala wrote:
Very cool. That's what Moog failed to do This is fun!


We distribute Moog too, so I'll do the same with Minitaur! In fact, I'll hook a MiniBrute and Minitaur up together. Now that will be something....
abstraktor
radiokoala wrote:
abstraktor wrote:
Without dissing the synth , you can see the market they're aiming for with the crap vid!
Flop haired hipsters of the world unite! you have nothing to lose except your VSTs! (could be worse, they might have got David Guetta to endorse it) lol

What's wrong with their target audience being young people? I'm 22, and oh, I'm just sitting at my job in skinny jeans, flannel and - you won't believe it! - checkered slip-ons. I have an afro too, so technically I am a 'hipster'. Does that all mean that I do not qualify to use synths in my musical work? Should I wait unless I'm in my mid-forties or should I not be allowed to use analog gear unless I change my appearance? meh


I dont believe I made any reference to age....but I take your point. love
darenager
radiokoala wrote:
abstraktor wrote:
Without dissing the synth , you can see the market they're aiming for with the crap vid!
Flop haired hipsters of the world unite! you have nothing to lose except your VSTs! (could be worse, they might have got David Guetta to endorse it) lol

What's wrong with their target audience being young people? I'm 22, and oh, I'm just sitting at my job in skinny jeans, flannel and - you won't believe it! - checkered slip-ons. I have an afro too, so technically I am a 'hipster'. Does that all mean that I do not qualify to use synths in my musical work? Should I wait unless I'm in my mid-forties or should I not be allowed to use analog gear unless I change my appearance? meh


You got it kid, come back in 20 years lol j/k couldn't resist thumbs up
LoFi Junglist
SourceDist wrote:
radiokoala wrote:
Very cool. That's what Moog failed to do This is fun!


We distribute Moog too, so I'll do the same with Minitaur! In fact, I'll hook a MiniBrute and Minitaur up together. Now that will be something....


You forgot the iPad, it has to be iPad sequencing a MiniBrute, that is controlling a Minitaur.
SourceDist
LoFi Junglist wrote:
You forgot the iPad, it has to be iPad sequencing a MiniBrute, that is controlling a Minitaur.


Using a Lemur template.
falafelbiels
I was thinking that the Minibrute was the thing to finally push all Microkorgs off stages around the world. Without patch storage I unfortunately don't see that happening though.

oh well, it seems to be a very cool synth. was it? I might pick one up...
SepticUnderground
patchstorage is for pussies hyper
SourceDist
Clear patch sheets (which you lay over MiniBrute) will be included. But yes, patch storage is also courtesy of Canon and Nikon smile

infection
This is very good news!

Im happy to see the saw animator and metallizer, separates it a bit from the crowd!

And the CV in/outs are a big bonus!


Cant wait to see what mods people will come up with for this synth:)
stepwriterun
abstraktor wrote:
looks like Arturia have been trawling through Muffs and Matrixsynth for ideas for this synth...no bad thing, of course.
I think the feature set looks very good for something that could be considered a "niche" product, but the analogue renaissance shows no signs of slowing down at the moment.
Moog, Mode Machines, Doepfer, DSI, Korg....and now Arturia.
No Roland?
Can we expect to see the bottom falling out the 2nd hand SH101 market soon? hihi
Now over to you Korg!


And Waldorf is releasing a Pulse 2 (looks like a Pulse slapped into a Blofeld case).

http://www.musicradar.com/news/tech/namm-2012-waldorf-pulse-2-analogue -synth-525284
MrDys
jessem wrote:
I see a gate in but no trigger in. If the arp can't be triggered from an 808 etc... I would be very bummed out :(


Sounds like you can do this with the gate in.

Arturia's website wrote:
By using the Gate In with the Trigger Output of a drum machine (or actually any loud incoming trigger signal), MiniBrute becomes a powerful device for generating electronic basslines on the fly.
ultrashock
SepticUnderground wrote:
patchstorage is for pussies hyper

Sir Ruff
radiokoala wrote:
abstraktor wrote:
Without dissing the synth , you can see the market they're aiming for with the crap vid!
Flop haired hipsters of the world unite! you have nothing to lose except your VSTs! (could be worse, they might have got David Guetta to endorse it) lol

What's wrong with their target audience being young people? I'm 22, and oh, I'm just sitting at my job in skinny jeans, flannel and - you won't believe it! - checkered slip-ons. I have an afro too, so technically I am a 'hipster'. Does that all mean that I do not qualify to use synths in my musical work? Should I wait unless I'm in my mid-forties or should I not be allowed to use analog gear unless I change my appearance? meh


computer controlled wrote:
Moog also is catering to the hipster crowd. d'oh!


It might just be that a floppy hair youth makes for better copy than a less attractive but more financially stable middle-aged, pudgy white male sitting in his basement tweaking his DIY modular in suburbia? hmmm.....
Drumdrumdrumdrum
Sir Ruff wrote:
radiokoala wrote:
abstraktor wrote:
Without dissing the synth , you can see the market they're aiming for with the crap vid!
Flop haired hipsters of the world unite! you have nothing to lose except your VSTs! (could be worse, they might have got David Guetta to endorse it) lol

What's wrong with their target audience being young people? I'm 22, and oh, I'm just sitting at my job in skinny jeans, flannel and - you won't believe it! - checkered slip-ons. I have an afro too, so technically I am a 'hipster'. Does that all mean that I do not qualify to use synths in my musical work? Should I wait unless I'm in my mid-forties or should I not be allowed to use analog gear unless I change my appearance? meh


computer controlled wrote:
Moog also is catering to the hipster crowd. d'oh!


It might just be that a floppy hair youth makes for better copy than a less attractive but more financially stable middle-aged, pudgy white male sitting in his basement tweaking his DIY modular in suburbia? hmmm.....


Hey! I resemble that! angry

I wish I had hair............
rockmanrock
Sir Ruff wrote:
It might just be that a floppy hair youth makes for better copy than a less attractive but more financially stable middle-aged, pudgy white male sitting in his basement tweaking his DIY modular in suburbia? hmmm.....


Bring back capes I say.
werock
The video in the original post is working again w00t
Sir Ruff
Drumdrumdrumdrum wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
radiokoala wrote:
abstraktor wrote:
Without dissing the synth , you can see the market they're aiming for with the crap vid!
Flop haired hipsters of the world unite! you have nothing to lose except your VSTs! (could be worse, they might have got David Guetta to endorse it) lol

What's wrong with their target audience being young people? I'm 22, and oh, I'm just sitting at my job in skinny jeans, flannel and - you won't believe it! - checkered slip-ons. I have an afro too, so technically I am a 'hipster'. Does that all mean that I do not qualify to use synths in my musical work? Should I wait unless I'm in my mid-forties or should I not be allowed to use analog gear unless I change my appearance? meh


computer controlled wrote:
Moog also is catering to the hipster crowd. d'oh!


It might just be that a floppy hair youth makes for better copy than a less attractive but more financially stable middle-aged, pudgy white male sitting in his basement tweaking his DIY modular in suburbia? hmmm.....


Hey! I resemble that! angry

I wish I had hair............


Oh yeah, I forgot balding lol (sorry)
Drumdrumdrumdrum
I finally got to watch the demo. MY ASS IS BLEEDING
Rod Serling Fan Club
SepticUnderground wrote:


even as midi 2 cv interface/keyboard with onboard arp it is almost worth its money.



So this will do midi to cv?
MrDys
It will do MIDI to CV. It'll also do USB MIDI to CV. This is beyond no-brainer at this point.
LoveBot
mckenic wrote:
MiniMoog
Minitaur
Minibrute

I need a new analog evolving soundscape machine called MaxiPad!
hihi

This looks wicked! Well done Arturia - thumbs up Someone FINALLY listened!
Now if I could just see that video!


Do not forget Macbeth's 'Micromac' :-D
mckenic
thumbs up

Good catch!
How could I forget Ken's wonderful synth! Im just dizzy from all the WIN going on today!!!
infection
I hope there is a way to mod it so we can get CV outs for LFO's, ADSR's, arpeggio, aftertouch, modwheel and pitchweel w00t

That would be beyond amazing MY ASS IS BLEEDING
radiokoala


(No, it's not me in the video. hihi)
Rod Serling Fan Club
I just pre-ordered mine. $475 pre-order special through novamusik. I'm very excited this is perfect for what I've been wanting - A compact keyboard with midi/cv conversion. Listening to the first video the filter does sound very characterically steiner. The animator and wavefolders/shapers are very unique in a stand-alone analog mono.
radiokoala
mckenic wrote:
thumbs up

Good catch!
How could I forget Ken's wonderful synth! Im just dizzy from all the WIN going on today!!!

Yup, I hear ya. New year's eve mainly left me cold, but today I feel what I should've then...a true holiday if you ask me!! w00t This is fun!
mark_snipz
Is it confirmed that the arpeggio is spat out of the cv/gate?
Slabwax
OK I'm Sorry but some has to say it. That youtube ad for the Minibrute is the worst. Is this thing being marketed to 16 year old boys who want to bang 15 year old girls? The synth looks cool but drop the whole rock star B.S.




Dean
lukas412
Slabwax wrote:
OK I'm Sorry but some has to say it. That youtube ad for the Minibrute is the worst. Is this thing being marketed to 16 year old boys who want to bang 15 year old girls? The synth looks cool but drop the whole rock star B.S.




Dean



I'm certainly not impressed with the commercial either and I definitely am not that audience, but I say let them do what they have to do to get their money back on this and keep making cool shit.

Luke
radiokoala
Slabwax wrote:
OK I'm Sorry but some has to say it. That youtube ad for the Minibrute is the worst. Is this thing being marketed to 16 year old boys who want to bang 15 year old girls? The synth looks cool but drop the whole rock star B.S.




Dean

Admit it, it can't get worse than casio using a stock photo with two MS-twenties on stage and making us think this is how their new synth looks like? Talking about worst ads, this one is first in my list for sure! SlayerBadger!

Igor
de_raaf
well i guess its about making young people hot for this stuff, those people need to get worked on not us, they are ambitious thats why i think the kept the price so sharp, annalog for the new generation , makes sense
Peake
rockmanrock wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
It might just be that a floppy hair youth makes for better copy than a less attractive but more financially stable middle-aged, pudgy white male sitting in his basement tweaking his DIY modular in suburbia? hmmm.....


Bring back capes I say.


Remember what happened to Rick Wakeman? Sucked into a vortex!

Slabwax
de_raaf wrote:
well i guess its about making young people hot for this stuff, those people need to get worked on not us, they are ambitious thats why i think the kept the price so sharp, annalog for the new generation , makes sense


Agreed, but there must be some sort of low brow sophomoric way of doing it that is not so obvious. Oh and don't get me wrong I want the damned thing. And Casio should be sued for false advertising with that little day dream.



Dean
Peake
Thank you SourceDist! I hope that Arturia and Yves are gratified by the positive public response!
loydb
SepticUnderground wrote:
patchstorage is for pussies hyper


Tempted to make this my .sig
we're not worthy
machetemirage
mark_snipz wrote:
Is it confirmed that the arpeggio is spat out of the cv/gate?


In the video on the first page of this thread, the back panel tour reveals a selector for the gate source, which includes keyboard, audio, and hold. Hold is a function on the arpeggiator, so I'm going to say yes.

3.5mm jacks for CV? This is going to be euro's new best friend. Rockin' Banana!
James Mandible
computer controlled wrote:
Wonder when the release date is.


Same here. Anyone who pre-ordered happen to get an expected shipping date estimate?
eXode
James Mandible wrote:
computer controlled wrote:
Wonder when the release date is.


Same here. Anyone who pre-ordered happen to get an expected shipping date estimate?


I read somewhere that they expect to ship it by april
James Mandible
eXode wrote:
James Mandible wrote:
computer controlled wrote:
Wonder when the release date is.


Same here. Anyone who pre-ordered happen to get an expected shipping date estimate?


I read somewhere that they expect to ship it by april


Good, just in time for my birthday. MY ASS IS BLEEDING screaming goo yo
Peake
NAMM means "Not Available, Maybe March".
Chuck E. Jesus
Rod Serling Fan Club wrote:
I just pre-ordered mine. $475 pre-order special through novamusik.


wow, that's a pretty darnn good price!
machetemirage
Peake wrote:
NAMM means "Not Available, Maybe March".



applause hihi
computer controlled
Yes, they def need a new promotional team. These videos are about as bad as it gets. Apparently, the only people who buy synths now are scruffy head wobblin' rockers.

However, 3.5mm CV/Gate outs? Smart choice! $475 pre-order? Anyone want to buy my UltraNova? =o]
astroschnautzer
I can't stop thinking about this synth....
MrDys
Honestly, there's nothing wrong with those promo videos. Have you ever sat down and critically watched some of the promotional shit that music companies put out?

If guitar pedal videos are to be believed, all guitarists are long curly haired 45 year olds that just weedly-weedly-weee, Yngwie Malmsteen-style up and down the fretboard all day. The synth industry's Jordan Rudess-style keyshredding videos aren't any better.

These videos are actually miles ahead of the dreck that usually goes out.
transistor logic
i wish it had 37 -keys, but i'm still interrested
James Mandible
Fuck it, pre-ordered lol
RealDudes
who want to buy my desktop evolver?
jbartee
computer controlled wrote:
Lame hipster video nftw!

abstraktor wrote:
Flop haired hipsters of the world unite! you have nothing to lose except your VSTs!

computer controlled wrote:
If you were a true hipster, you wouldn't be here. Seeing as they have no care in the world how synths actually work, only in how they make them look.

Slabwax wrote:
Is this thing being marketed to 16 year old boys who want to bang 15 year old girls?

computer controlled wrote:
Apparently, the only people who buy synths now are scruffy head wobblin' rockers.


not this shit again
chvad
gonna pre-order myself. Probably this weekend. I don't need more keys around but Im really loving this.
tIB
computer controlled wrote:
Apparently, the only people who buy synths now are scruffy head wobblin' rockers.


Im the target audience?
James Mandible
RealDudes wrote:
who want to buy my desktop evolver?


I probably would for the right price twisted
computer controlled
tIB wrote:
computer controlled wrote:
Apparently, the only people who buy synths now are scruffy head wobblin' rockers.


Im the target audience?


Only you can answer that

Om headbang
itijik
The features sound great. No pre-order, but I can't wait to try one out!
CalvaryBand
MrDys wrote:
Honestly, there's nothing wrong with those promo videos. Have you ever sat down and critically watched some of the promotional shit that music companies put out?

If guitar pedal videos are to be believed, all guitarists are long curly haired 45 year olds that just weedly-weedly-weee, Yngwie Malmsteen-style up and down the fretboard all day. The synth industry's Jordan Rudess-style keyshredding videos aren't any better.

These videos are actually miles ahead of the dreck that usually goes out.


Indeed.

I have a Roland promo VHS that has a sequence of demonstrations that are possibly the most hilarious clips set to tape. This video is a masterpiece in comparison.
computer controlled
They would do well to demonstrate the analogue i/o as well, rather than the hip aspect of it all. It seems the new way to sell your product is as an accessory to your image instead of an instrument.

Stop with the glamour and get down to business. Put one of these in the hands of an EXPERIENCED synthesist who can take full advantage of everything it has to offer and show that.

Too much gloss, not enough substance.

meh
mckenic
Chaps! Its day one!

Im sure the good stuff is coming!
lag
very nice
Popski
yeah, a basement iphone video of some plump fucker obsessively complaining online about filter architecture would sell that synth so much more effectively
worstofthewurst
If I wasn't moving (with indeterminate permanent dwelling) I'd preorder this yesterday. It's already been mentioned, but it's so refreshing that someone is doing something other than the classic Moog filter. And this has audio in! Oof!
jbartee
I think I'm sold on this. I'll wait to read some reviews, but it really seems like it's approaching perfection. And so cheap!
Christopher Winkels
Popski wrote:
yeah, a basement iphone video of some plump fucker obsessively complaining online about filter architecture would sell that synth so much more effectively


You are soooo out of line with that comment. I never shoot my videos in the basement.
noobyscooby
I like the ad. I wish I could be a young, hairy fellow gigging in a cool band. He probably gets laid a lot too and gets lots of drink tickets.

What kind of ad are they supposed to make? Some late 30s, ex-raver type ordering it online then going to the post office to pick it up, smuggling it into the house late at night after the wife's gone to sleep... Only to take it out of the box later, play with it and test it for a few minutes and then have it sit on a shelf for months before he fires it for an hour or two again.

Oooooohhhh...that would sell bucketloads of them.

He's just playing with it on his computer then taking it to a gig. Ultimately, isn't that what we all should be doing with our shit?
Ted
So, what color is this thing? Black or navy?
jbartee
Ted wrote:
So, what color is this thing? Black or navy?


I really hope it's black, but I fear navy. Navy not only reminds me of Behringer, but also clashes with practically everything else I own.

What would be ideal would be a special edition in hot pink. To match my moppy hair, flannel, and skinny jeans.
wavecircle
Video watched, this thing is fucking great. So glad the SH101 I bought was faulty and got returned.

I think they should market it at younger people, I would have loved it if this came out when I was 15.

I hope they eventually make a Macrobrute with 37 keys, 2 vcos with xmod and sync. applause thumbs up
jbartee
I wonder if this will be the synth that finally blows up analog for the "mainstream" Guitar Center demographic. It's certainly a contender I'd say. Part of me still thinks that in order to really capture that market, someone needs to put out a slightly less featured synth (maybe without the analog i/o and sans waveshaper / arp or something) for around $300.

But who knows. If I was 15 I'd be all over my parents to throw down for this at the next available birthday, holiday, or bar mitzvah.
Popski
Christopher Winkels wrote:
Popski wrote:
yeah, a basement iphone video of some plump fucker obsessively complaining online about filter architecture would sell that synth so much more effectively


You are soooo out of line with that comment. I never shoot my videos in the basement.


haha.. I was talking about myself!!
Popski
plump fucker..
8_)
Waz
It's a no contest for me. This is the star of NAMM this year. Yeah new modules are cool, but it's good to see commercial analog gear getting made again.

And that price!
gwaidan
Rod Serling Fan Club wrote:
I just pre-ordered mine. $475 pre-order special through novamusik. I'm very excited this is perfect for what I've been wanting - A compact keyboard with midi/cv conversion. Listening to the first video the filter does sound very characterically steiner. The animator and wavefolders/shapers are very unique in a stand-alone analog mono.


There's a line in Barry Klein's Electronic Music Circuits book from 1982 that has bugged me for a while-it is about waveform animation being the future of analog synths. It's bugged me because the realty was that this never came to pass in the mainstream due to analog polys being stuck in the Minimoog architecture, and limited by whatever functionality was possible with CES/SSM chipsets.

In a sense this is the first mainstream synth I can think of that is fulfilling that promise, and the interfacing is icing on the cake. I was thinking of getting a Phatty with CV outs-not interested now (bet Moog won't charge extra for CV outs any more!). I was thinking of getting a Multipedal largely for interfacing-this gives you a complete synth for nearly the same price, ditto for quite a few modular format MIDI/CV/USB interfaces that I'm now glad I didn't get.
Christopher Winkels
Popski wrote:
plump fucker..
8_)


Pictures at 11:00. eek!
GrantB
Re: internet nerds opinion on pitch and mod wheel placement over the keyboard

on Minibrute: best cheap monosynth evar!

on Akai Max49: best keyboard controller evar!

on Prophet 08: END OF THE UNIVERSE! KILL ME NOW!

just sayin...
whitewulfe
My only complaint so far is the 25 key keyboard (i'd prefer at lesat 49, but I grew up around a baby grand piano, so... I'm kinda biased). Damn, that looks like a lot of power in a cute lil box.
suboptimal
noobyscooby wrote:
Some late 30s, ex-raver type ordering it online then going to the post office to pick it up, smuggling it into the house late at night after the wife's gone to sleep... Only to take it out of the box later, play with it and test it for a few minutes and then have it sit on a shelf for months before he fires it for an hour or two again.


I thought we'd signed a deal that you wouldn't continue to disclose what you learned from that camera you set up in my room? You'll be hearing from my lawyer! Drain the 401(k)!
Drumdrumdrumdrum
GrantB wrote:


on Prophet 08: END OF THE UNIVERSE! KILL ME NOW!


Prophet 08 with 8CV/8gate outs etc. Com'on!

Drunken Homer Simpson
chando
whitewulfe wrote:
My only complaint so far is the 25 key keyboard (i'd prefer at lesat 49, but I grew up around a baby grand piano, so... I'm kinda biased). Damn, that looks like a lot of power in a cute lil box.


For actual playing.. I can't use less than 49 Keys.

But I think of this thing as a sound module with some keys. Like an MC-202 or WASP. It's a bonus.
jbartee
vav
Yeah, i'm going to pre-order this...it's a no-brainer!
Spanningtree
eek! Fuck!! Must have.

@jbartee:Thanks for posting the vid.
computer controlled
If it IS due for release in April, that'll give me time to save up for one!
ryandfl
I like the part in the video where he runs away from the carousel. What does it mean?!

Great price, form factor, functionality and all that, but I don't know - it sounds a little thin to me in the demos?
Sir Ruff
I'm actually really appreciating the keyboard size now - my ancient oxygen 8 which occupies one corner of the limited space on my desk is exactly the same number of keys, and only slightly less deep, but does NOT send out cv/gate (or um, have a monosynth attached).
jbartee
Sir Ruff wrote:
I'm actually really appreciating the keyboard size now - my ancient oxygen 8 which occupies one corner of the limited space on my desk is exactly the same number of keys, and only slightly less deep, but does NOT send out cv/gate (or um, have a monosynth attached).


Exactly. Bye bye Oxygen 8.
de_raaf
the only thing that would make this more killer was having a filter out put mixer (or more simpler switches) for the outputs of lp bp hp notch. i love my cheap siel mono for that option of being able to switch that stuff., but i guess that would have made it to much complicated for starters.
but for the rest i must say the got it very right, i feel very gassed to get this some day, price is insane sharp
qu.one
computer controlled wrote:
If it IS due for release in April, that'll give me time to save up for one!


And ppl will have it in the BST April 2 hihi
computer controlled
qu.one wrote:
computer controlled wrote:
If it IS due for release in April, that'll give me time to save up for one!


And ppl will have it in the BST April 2 hihi


Ha.

"It doesn't sound like a Moog/SH-101/Steiner Parker. Time to sell"
bint
wonder if there will be any cool mods?
criticalmonkey
played with this one for about 5 minutes -
really like the arp feature and the sub osc
nice unit - feels solid
pretty clean - i couldn't really drive it into wretched pain but i could have missed some thing - kind of reminded me of my cwejman s1 in that regard
rep wasn't very aware of details - like will the arp send out cv

liked this more than the moog minatuar - not sure that is a fair comparison because the design goals are different but i had more fun with the minibrute
Waz
jbartee wrote:


This guy sounded sad at the end when he found out he couldn't have presets. lol
dkcg
Waz wrote:

This guy sounded sad at the end when he found out he couldn't have presets. lol


I think quite a few will end up on CL once the kids figure out what analog really means. lol

This is gonna be a big seller. I think analog synths are about to blow up in the mainstream. I'll know for sure when i hear a soccer mom talking about analog synth that her kid wants at a starbucks or see an old Greek grandpa buying this for their grandkid at GC or SamAss.

My brother informed me that it's now starting to be very hip to be into analog synths and geeks like us wigglers are considered cool. hmmm.....
atvaries
so is it a 100% analog signal path...?

thumbs up


poor guys at the arturia booth are going to have to say that a few more times before the weekend is over.
bartleby
wow, this is very cool indeed! i think it's a great move to go for steiner-parker - it's a cool and very original filter. i also love the filter feedback, saw animation, and wave shaping, and of course the cv/gate keyboard. lots of interesting features in a very compact and affordable package. i'm sure this thing is going to be a great hit. if i were currently looking for a monosynth i'd definitely look at this and very, very probably buy it.

i only wonder why they left out the one feature that would have made this synth irresistible even for people like myself who currently think, 'wow, what a cool synth, but i already have a couple of nice monosynths and don't really need this one right now': a sh-101 style sequencer! if it had that, i'd probably sell my 101 (have that sound covered by the 202) and get a minibrute instead.

i guess in theory, they might still be able add a sequencer via a firmware update (the lfos and arpeggiator are digital, after all). it would have been more convenient to have dedicated 'record' and 'play' buttons for the sequencer, but it could also be controlled by the existing buttons. the workflow might be something like this:

- set arpeggiator to 'off'
- 'tap' + 'octave down' = enter sequencer step record mode
- in sequencer step record mode: enter notes on the keyboard, press 'octave down' + 'up' to program a rest
- 'tap' + 'octave up' = toggle sequencer play/stop

or something like that. no idea if this is possible. but if they ever add something like that, it would upgrade this synth form 'very cool and interesting' to 'irresistible' for me. smile

the only other thing that strikes me as slightly odd: if it has a keyboard with aftertouch, and cv/gate outputs, why not also add an aftertouch cv output? but that's nit-picking. it definitely is very cool and exciting the way it is. i'm sure it will be an excellent 'first real analog' synth for a lot of people.
radiokoala
Talking about aftertouch and it being mono – is there a chance for a poly-aftertouch when using as a controller? You could have a great deal of controlling the timbre in Aalto then It's peanut butter jelly time!
gwaidan
de_raaf wrote:
the only thing that would make this more killer was having a filter out put mixer (or more simpler switches) for the outputs of lp bp hp notch. i love my cheap siel mono for that option of being able to switch that stuff., but i guess that would have made it to much complicated for starters.
but for the rest i must say the got it very right, i feel very gassed to get this some day, price is insane sharp


The Steiner-Parker VCF works by having a single output but having separate inputs for the three responses-so any mixing has to happen at the front end. The only implementation of it that can mix responses is Ken Stone's version (ie the Elby Synthacon)
gwaidan
Popski wrote:
yeah, a basement iphone video of some plump fucker obsessively complaining online about filter architecture would sell that synth so much more effectively


Especially if they had a soldering iron in shot on the desk and complained at length about the failure to use handwired panel controls, carbon comp resistors and styro caps rather than modern SMD parts...
computer controlled
Here's a nice shot of the back, thanks to Mrs. Harvestman

gwaidan
Velocity out woulda been nice, but the pitch bend merged with CV out immediately aces one of the major drawbacks of the SH101 as a controller. Gating from audio is a nice bonus!
Drumdrumdrumdrum
dkcg wrote:

My brother informed me that it's now starting to be very hip to be into analog synths and geeks like us wigglers are considered cool. hmmm.....


NEVER! you kids get off my lawn
bartleby
Drumdrumdrumdrum wrote:
dkcg wrote:

My brother informed me that it's now starting to be very hip to be into analog synths and geeks like us wigglers are considered cool. hmmm.....


NEVER! you kids get off my lawn

+1 lol
koobraelc
Dead Banana Dead Banana Dead Banana
MrDys
This can be had at GC for $450, if you use the sale coupon promo that's running through this weekend.

Edit:...or for $425 at musiciansfriend with a similar coupon promo + free shipping.
Zenn
Buying new synths is like buying a new car. Worth half the price after a month & nothing special anymore. I like the fact reasonably priced analog synths are produced again, but I see no reason to jump on this bandwagon and -the horror- sell my 101 or something. The waveshapers are nice though.

Something I completely missed... is this monophonic?
itijik
These prices are crazy.
itijik
Zenn wrote:
Something I completely missed... is this monophonic?

An all analog synth with all of those options for $450...it has to be mono. Yes.
Sir Ruff
Zenn wrote:
Buying new synths is like buying a new car. Worth half the price after a month & nothing special anymore. I like the fact reasonably priced analog synths are produced again, but I see no reason to jump on this bandwagon and -the horror- sell my 101 or something. The waveshapers are nice though.

Yeah, it's a shame it can't be like the olden days when synths automatically entered the market "used". Having to buy something new, and you know, actually supporting the company rather than the reseller, is so overrated.

Quote:
Something I completely missed... is this monophonic?

d'oh!

itijik wrote:
These prices are crazy.

yeah, really... how low can they go?!
chvad
the Brute looks really sweet. I'm wondering with those low prices what part of the synth and/or persons making it got the shit end of the stick.
splitpoint
Wow, I was hesitant because of the 2 octave keyboard but at $424 I'm in. Looks like a cool synth.
MrDys
chvad wrote:
I'm wondering with those low prices what part of the synth and/or persons making it got the shit end of the stick.


Maybe it's the optimist in me, but I think it's Arturia really trying to dig into the hardware market in a big way. They've dipped their toes in with the controllers and the Origin, but if they're gearing up to take on some of the largest hardware synth companies on their own turf, the easiest way to get some mass appeal is to make it as affordable as possible. In other words, this might be selling at a loss (or slight loss) to get some quick market share. Xbox-style.
chvad
"In other words, this might be selling at a loss (or slight loss) to get some quick market share. Xbox-style."

that def makes sense. I hope so because im ordering one this weekend. 425 is no brainer
abstraktor
$425 0r $450 is a craziliy low price for the Brute..that works out at about £274 in GBP! Fuck, at that price it's a no brainer!
There's no way it'll be that cheap here though. seriously, i just don't get it
Have they already booked a container ship for all the synths going to the US?
lol
Jason Brock
April 2012, Everyone: "This sounds SO much better than a softsynth! Real analog baby!"
May 2012, Arturia: "Ha! Fooled you! It's software inside, we just wanted to prove a point!"
algorhythm
hihi

That's when the PolyBrute VSTi is released.
Morley
Economy of scale I think.
Manufacture (and hopefully sell) a lot of them and prices tumble.
itijik
Jason Brock wrote:
April 2012, Everyone: "This sounds SO much better than a softsynth! Real analog baby!"
May 2012, Arturia: "Ha! Fooled you! It's software inside, we just wanted to prove a point!"

applause
loydb
@Jason Lol.

Preordered.
Oldstench
Jason Brock wrote:
April 2012, Everyone: "This sounds SO much better than a softsynth! Real analog baby!"
May 2012, Arturia: "Ha! Fooled you! It's software inside, we just wanted to prove a point!"

Goddamn, I would love for this to happen.
mikecameron
I'm guessing it's just a matter of time before this thing gets patch points hacked into it, although I'm excited for it as-is. Think what you'd spend to build this voice in modular including midi->cv!
colossal
Looks & sounds great, the advert is cheesey but still makes me want one. Just wonder what the conversion rate will be $475 = £305, now that is bloody cheap !

Bring on more analogue stuff, so what is kids drive the manufacturing of it !
mckenic
Yeah... but its €500 apparently. Which = $640.

I wouldnt hold too much hope that it wont be £450
Sir Ruff
Jason Brock wrote:
April 2012, Everyone: "This sounds SO much better than a softsynth! Real analog baby!"
May 2012, Arturia: "Ha! Fooled you! It's software inside, we just wanted to prove a point!"


Well, looks like we won't even have to wait that long to find out - ships out Feb. 4! hyper hyper hyper

And while I'm pretty darn satisfied with this thing as-is, one can't help but wonder - if they can pull off a really well-specced mono at the price, how much more would we have to pay for a 4/6/8 voice ana-poly?
tonnu
i have thought this through
i will buy it
it's about the same price as buying a midi-cv box
great stuff
colossal
Now that would be hilarious !
mark_snipz
499 euro = £415 at 1.2 conversion rate
bartleby
colossal wrote:
Just wonder what the conversion rate will be $475 = £305, now that is bloody cheap !

i don't think it works that way. for one thing, price quotes in the u.s. usually (and bizarrely) exclude vat.

mark_snipz wrote:
499 euro = £415 at 1.2 conversion rate

that looks much more realistic.
colossal
Please consult the "special" conversion rate when buying goods in the UK, basically you just make something up !

Edit, ok I could just buy from the EU, ok it aint £305 but it aint bad smile
worstofthewurst
bartleby wrote:
colossal wrote:
Just wonder what the conversion rate will be $475 = £305, now that is bloody cheap !

i don't think it works that way. for one thing, price quotes in the u.s. usually (and bizarrely) exclude vat.

mark_snipz wrote:
499 euro = £415 at 1.2 conversion rate

that looks much more realistic.


That's because sales tax varies state to state, county to county, and sometimes city to city.
MrDys
Arturia could really cut down on the lack of preset storage criticism if they started to promote this thing alongside something like AutoSampler...
loydb
By the way, be aware that the Musician's Friend 15% off coupon only applies to in-stock items, so expect to be charged the $499 when it ships.
pricklyrobot
So it's confirmed that you can route the MIDI In to the CV/Gate Outs?

Couldn't find any reference to that in the specs I've seen so far, and they don't seem to touting it as a MIDI-to-CV converter.
bartleby
pricklyrobot wrote:
So it's confirmed that you can route the MIDI In to the CV/Gate Outs?

www.arturia.com (page 4, rightmost column):
Quote:
MiniBrute will also transform the USB and MIDI incoming signals into CV Pitch Out and Gate Out, making it a great converter to control vintage synths from your computer or MIDI interface.
pricklyrobot
Cool. thumbs up
James Mandible
Sir Ruff wrote:
Jason Brock wrote:
April 2012, Everyone: "This sounds SO much better than a softsynth! Real analog baby!"
May 2012, Arturia: "Ha! Fooled you! It's software inside, we just wanted to prove a point!"


Well, looks like we won't even have to wait that long to find out - ships out Feb. 4! hyper hyper hyper



Where'd you hear that? I'm going to really have to hit the saving/selling hard if that's the case!
Sir Ruff
loydb wrote:
By the way, be aware that the Musician's Friend 15% off coupon only applies to in-stock items, so expect to be charged the $499 when it ships.


That's not what they told me on the phone. Should have them in by the 28th, so shipping will commence as soon as they are processed! Talk about fast turnaround from announcement to release!

gwaidan wrote:
Whoah...Arturia making an Yves Usson analog synth with an endorsement from Nyle Steiner? Bacon is going to be expensive now that all the pigs have flown away.... hihi


Add to that design by Alex Hartmann of Neuron fame! eek! It's like a synth design supergroup.
Sir Ruff
DP
SourceDist
pricklyrobot wrote:
So it's confirmed that you can route the MIDI In to the CV/Gate Outs?


It definitely is a MIDI > CV converter, it's also a USB > CV converter.
suboptimal
If it had a cv clock output I'd buy it without another thought, although I have absolutely no room for anything like this at the moment.
SourceDist
colossal wrote:
Please consult the "special" conversion rate when buying goods in the UK, basically you just make something up !


Sadly it doesn't quite work like that smile
UK RRP is still unannounced - it's being worked on currently to be as good as we can make it whilst everyone behind the scenes still being able to eat! Should be announced next week, will post here when it is.

(We're Arturia's UK distributor by the way!)

PS. Should have one in a week or two, will do some video hooked up to modular/Moogs - plus testing the MIDI > CV etc when we do.
computer controlled
If this really is set for a Feb release, i need to get hopin'!
z3r01
I am getting a lil confused, from the Arturia website, it states that the Minibrute is slated for an April release, but on Guitar Center and Musician's Friend, the release/shipping date is early February. First dibs? hmmm.....

If it really is February, I think I will pull the trigger and get it. thumbs up
hpsounds
Sorry, but the designer of the analog circuits, Yves Usson (http://www.yusynth.com/) said on french forums that the MiniBrute will be available in April. The first production run will be for 1000 MiniBrute units.

Hédi K.
jbartee
hpsounds wrote:
Sorry, but the designer of the analog circuits, Yves Usson (http://www.yusynth.com/) said on french forums that the MiniBrute will be available in April. The first production run will be for 1000 MiniBrute.

Hédi K.


1000? Talk about limited quantities!

Guess I better preorder... can anyone confirm these aren't shipping 'till april? I can't spare the cash right now; If I preorder and these ship (and therefore charge) in early feb I'm going to be in trouble.
Jason Brock
z3r01 wrote:
but on Guitar Center and Musician's Friend, the release/shipping date is early February.


I wouldn't trust the release dates on GC or MF's sites.
REwire
I'd trade the supersaw and wave folder to have one more osc to allow at least Osc FM and RM and intervals. With that S.P. Filter it'd almost be a Synthacon. Wonder if the LFOs can go into Audio Range and FM the Oscs or Filter?

Though I have a little Steiner Parker box called the Microcon that is one osc and filter with a saw animater and it is fat as hell so this could be awesome.

Dan
mosaiclive
I don't usually preorder new products until a few real reviews are out but the deal on this thing through GC is just too good to pass up. I had no idea two days ago I'd be ordering a new synth I'd never even heard of before!
Sir Ruff
Jason Brock wrote:
z3r01 wrote:
but on Guitar Center and Musician's Friend, the release/shipping date is early February.


I wouldn't trust the release dates on GC or MF's sites.


Erm... I would trust the people on the other end of the line who tell me that they will have this when they have it (i.e. the 28th). Why would they anticipate having it 3 months before the actual date unless that is ACTUALLY when they are getting it? hmmm.....

Novamusik implied something similar when I talked to them - 3 major distributors can't be wrong.
suboptimal
You have more faith in GC and MF than I do!

I trust Nova a bit more, though.
jbartee
Welp, I just pulled the trigger on the musician's friend deal. First time I've ever bought a synth more or less on blind faith, but this really looks like it deserves it.

Used "Bill Me Later" just in case this actually does ship next week. God help me.
loydb
Sir Ruff wrote:
loydb wrote:
By the way, be aware that the Musician's Friend 15% off coupon only applies to in-stock items, so expect to be charged the $499 when it ships.


That's not what they told me on the phone.


Well, it's what the promo says when you click through to terms... I guess you'll find out one way or the other smile
jbartee
loydb wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
loydb wrote:
By the way, be aware that the Musician's Friend 15% off coupon only applies to in-stock items, so expect to be charged the $499 when it ships.


That's not what they told me on the phone.


Well, it's what the promo says when you click through to terms... I guess you'll find out one way or the other smile


chando
2 OSC is overrated... especially in a modern multi-tracking environment.
numan7
it has external audio input + pitch cv output. so it should be very simple to patch up 2 or 3 vc0s with minibrute + a few modules, if one likes. for example:

2 vcos + 3x1 mixer + buffered mult + 1/4"->1/8" adaptor (which is typically less than half a row of eurorack).

cheers
chvad
good idea!
chando
radiokoala wrote:
What's wrong with their target audience being young people? I'm 22, and oh, I'm just sitting at my job in skinny jeans, flannel and - you won't believe it! - checkered slip-ons. I have an afro too, so technically I am a 'hipster'. Does that all mean that I do not qualify to use synths in my musical work? Should I wait unless I'm in my mid-forties or should I not be allowed to use analog gear unless I change my appearance? meh


no it's fine.. might want to find a personality in your 20's tho... you got time.
chando
computer controlled wrote:
If you were a true hipster, you wouldn't be here. Seeing as they have no care in the world how synths actually work, only in how they make them look.


I disagree, ... but once again it's all about definitions.

IMO you can't be a "true hipster" unless you've been around... over 30.

scenster/posuer is what most people call hipsters... what I call them.. "young adults". What's so wrong with being 20?
computer controlled
Scenester/Poseur/Hipster, all the same. Arrogant, self entitled, wanna be retro assholes. But that isn't what this thread is about.
VanEck
I already pre-ordered through Nova Musik. Total came out to $475 with free shipping.

Does anyone know if I call them and talk about the MF deal, will they be willing to take off 15% to price match?
johnnywoods
Played with the MiniBrute today. Incredible build quality (it's all metal!), great sound and feel, and a LOT of flexibility for the size/price. It's a winner for sure.
Sir Ruff
VanEck wrote:
I already pre-ordered through Nova Musik. Total came out to $475 with free shipping.

Does anyone know if I call them and talk about the MF deal, will they be willing to take off 15% to price match?


I actually did ask - they wouldn't unfortunately, hence switching to MF.
hughyg
who would have thought Arturia would beat korg at there own game applause time for a korg duo monotron keyboard with a sequencer, delay and drum machine me thinks!!!

also, i love the fact it has no patches. everytime i go to the moog lp i go straight to the calibratin patch and tweak away.

Im about to start building a modular eurorack and I think i've found my midi to cv interface!
hughyg
also when are they due fro release? and in Australia?
hughyg
actually perhaps the akai max 49 for a midi to cv for the modular. Just saw that it also has cv and gate out and has a 16 step sequencer built in
z3r01
Thanks for the info about the release date and limited first run. thumbs up

I pulled the trigger, now hoping that they will ship mine early Feb, fingers crossed. Anyways thanks guys, for the heads up about the pre-order offers! thumbs up Rockin' Banana! nanners
lukas412
Does anyone know if there is some equivalent to "local off" for using it to control other synths while the it is being sequenced?
Peake
Patch the headphone output to the external audio input! Start with volume very low and go up from there and tell us what happens...
hiawog
i have to say at $500 this looks like a steal
computer controlled
If they took immediate payments on pre-orders, i'd sell of the Ultranova and pre-pay right away.
Rod Serling Fan Club
Peake, you don't even have to. There's a knob for that.
computer controlled
According to this video, release is early April.

peripatitis
With pulse2 and the minibrute suddenly my FRXS seem quite expensive....
M. Rishi
Man.. I was going to buy a 101 eventually to interface with the eurorack but this is looking like it might be a wiser (none of the hassles of vintage) and cheaper option. Will probably grab a used one in the spring.
computer controlled
peripatitis wrote:
With pulse2 and the minibrute suddenly my FRXS seem quite expensive....


I only paid $900 for mine, and even that seems like a lot now =o]
computer controlled
M. Rishi wrote:
Man.. I was going to buy a 101 eventually to interface with the eurorack but this is looking like it might be a wiser (none of the hassles of vintage) and cheaper option. Will probably grab a used one in the spring.


The 101 is def one of the more robust vintage synths out there. Which is why i still have mine.
hughyg
M. Rishi wrote:
Man.. I was going to buy a 101 eventually to interface with the eurorack but this is looking like it might be a wiser (none of the hassles of vintage) and cheaper option. Will probably grab a used one in the spring.


In Australia used stuff ends up going for as much as new on eBay. I think Im going to lash out andpay the $450 for a new one! thumbs up
VanEck
Peake wrote:
Patch the headphone output to the external audio input! Start with volume very low and go up from there and tell us what happens...


No need... the "Brute Factor" knob already handles this for you. Attenuated internal feedback loop right back into the filter mix. w00t
bartleby
computer controlled wrote:
M. Rishi wrote:
Man.. I was going to buy a 101 eventually to interface with the eurorack but this is looking like it might be a wiser (none of the hassles of vintage) and cheaper option. Will probably grab a used one in the spring.


The 101 is def one of the more robust vintage synths out there. Which is why i still have mine.

+1. and the 101 has this extremely cool little sequencer which is very useful for sequencing your modular synth (and other analog stuff). now if the minibrute had something like that, too...
z3r01
More Minibrute action found on Youtube! thumbs up



Just a question for those who actually tried it out personally at NAMM. How's the feel of the knobs, switches and faders? Also, just curious, what colour is the Minibrute exactly? Thanks! thumbs up
Drumdrumdrumdrum
computer controlled wrote:
According to this video, release is early April.



Best demo yet. Thx
eXode
Sonic State video of the Arturia Minbrute, they usually have very nice sound in their videos:

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2012/01/20/wnamm12-arturia-minibrute/

Just because I said that this video in particular is clipping quite a bit. :(
peripatitis
Quote:
I only paid $900 for mine, and even that seems like a lot now =o]

True smile
phonodyne
M. Rishi wrote:
Man.. I was going to buy a 101 eventually to interface with the eurorack but this is looking like it might be a wiser (none of the hassles of vintage) and cheaper option. Will probably grab a used one in the spring.

Exactly my thoughts. I've actually been looking around for a 101 in the UK recently, but after seeing the specs on the Minibrute I've put down a deposit for one of the first batch with DV.
gwaidan
For anyone who's tried it-does the synth itself respond in any way to key velocity? Velocity sensitivity/assignment seems to be MIA on the control panel...
jbartee
eXode wrote:
Sonic State video of the Arturia Minbrute, they usually have very nice sound in their videos:

http://www.sonicstate.com/news/2012/01/20/wnamm12-arturia-minibrute/

Just because I said that this video in particular is clipping quite a bit. :(


"The rate knob, obviously it will go up to infinity"

eek!
yusynth
gwaidan wrote:
For anyone who's tried it-does the synth itself respond in any way to key velocity? Velocity sensitivity/assignment seems to be MIA on the control panel...


I can answer this question, the velocity mode is by default disabled, to be used it must be actvated through the USB port with the software that will come with the synth.
Drumdrumdrumdrum
Thanks yusynth we're not worthy

This thing is very cool. So then maybe extra CV matrix in the software?
Kent
Congratulations to Yves, Nyle & Arturia for making what I think is the most memorable fixed-architecture synth product at the show. And THANK YOU for not making another Minimoog wannabe. This thing is nuts!



I'm sorry to say that I haven't even seen the video that I have uploaded. Simply no time to do so. It was noisy as hell at the Arturia booth when I was there. Maybe it's completely distorted. I tried my best to get some decent sound and that's why the camera angle is so low. I wanted the mic by the speaker due to the ambient noise level. I was also flailing around on the machine. The video is what it is, but the Minibrute sounds great.

Kodama is the brown sleeves and I'm the grey with black buttons. SlayerBadger!
pulse_divider
The video and sound quality are fine, thanks so much for posting!
I'm gonna buy the shit out of this.
z3r01
Kent wrote:
Congratulations to Yves, Nyle & Arturia for making what I think is the most memorable fixed-architecture synth product at the show. And THANK YOU for not making another Minimoog wannabe. This thing is nuts!



I'm sorry to say that I haven't even seen the video that I have uploaded. Simply no time to do so. It was noisy as hell at the Arturia booth when I was there. Maybe it's completely distorted. I tried my best to get some decent sound and that's why the camera angle is so low. I wanted the mic by the speaker due to the ambient noise level. I was also flailing around on the machine. The video is what it is, but the Minibrute sounds great.


Thanks for the video Kent! No issues with the audio. thumbs up

Finally, a video of modular user using the Minibrute! applause Yup, I like what I am hearing from the Minibrute. Definitely worth getting.
eXode
Great vid Kent! Some more interesting sounds in this video!
yusynth
Kent wrote:
Congratulations to Yves, Nyle & Arturia for making what I think is the most memorable fixed-architecture synth product at the show. And THANK YOU for not making another Minimoog wannabe. This thing is nuts!


You're welcome Kent ! My motivation was to build a mono-synth that I would have loved using. And hopefully Arturia gave me that chance.
Kent
Mes félicitations, monsieur! Avec plaisir.

yusynth wrote:
Kent wrote:
Congratulations to Yves, Nyle & Arturia for making what I think is the most memorable fixed-architecture synth product at the show. And THANK YOU for not making another Minimoog wannabe. This thing is nuts!


You're welcome Kent ! My motivation was to build a mono-synth that I would have loved using. And hopefully Arturia gave me that chance.
bouzoukijoe1
serious props go to Yves Usson, Nyle Steiner, and Arturia for this amazing instrument. I applaud everyone for such a unique combination of features that will hopefully propel synths in an awesome new direction. this clearly paves the way for a new generation of synths. between Moog, DSI, and now Arturia, I can only imagine how much better it will get over the next couple of years. pretty exciting.

and I've been waiting for just the right mini keyboard to get that will complement my modular and I believe this may be it. the price is completely mind blowing!
h4ndcrafted
I can do Moog things in Spectrasonics Trillian, still my fav bass h/w and s/w.

So, if I buying hardware, it need to be fun and have tons of character. This looks as if it ticks all the right boxes.

Nasty, gnarly and aggressive lead lines here I come! oh I'm feeling all Chemical Brothers all of a sudden, teimz4sumblockrawkingbeatz!

I'm really looking foRward to this, def preordering.

However I'm nu 2 modular, how much would this replace a midi/cv module, do I still need one if I buy this ?
M. Rishi
bartleby wrote:
computer controlled wrote:
M. Rishi wrote:
Man.. I was going to buy a 101 eventually to interface with the eurorack but this is looking like it might be a wiser (none of the hassles of vintage) and cheaper option. Will probably grab a used one in the spring.


The 101 is def one of the more robust vintage synths out there. Which is why i still have mine.

+1. and the 101 has this extremely cool little sequencer which is very useful for sequencing your modular synth (and other analog stuff). now if the minibrute had something like that, too...


Both good points. But I have a pretty good sequencing setup in the modular and I predict the used version of this 'board will cost half as much as a 101. Of course I'd like the Roland more, but my wallet is making this decision. Money saved is more money for the modular. Reviews will be the final factor.
pulse_divider
This looks way more interesting than a 101 to me, I just wish it had an arp clock input
bartleby
pulse_divider wrote:
This looks way more interesting than a 101 to me, I just wish it had an arp clock input

i'm pretty sure you will be able to clock the arp vie the gate input. wouldn't make much sense if you couldn't. (or would it?)
Rod Serling Fan Club
h4ndcrafted wrote:


However I'm nu 2 modular, how much would this replace a midi/cv module, do I still need one if I buy this ?


No, this should replace that. You can also control pitch gate from your modular, run modular/external sounds through the filter. It's a great modular companion.

bartleby wrote:
pulse_divider wrote:
This looks way more interesting than a 101 to me, I just wish it had an arp clock input

i'm pretty sure you will be able to clock the arp vie the gate input. wouldn't make much sense if you couldn't. (or would it?)


They do mention something about this on their website but it is kind of vague. I think it says ~creating basslines in time with your drum machine via the CV gate in...


I'm digging the sound. From the videos it sounds nice and raw, reminds me a bit of old roland monos but the self oscillation sounds like other steiner filters I've used. I really never thought I'd be all excited over a new analog mono but this has so much going for it and the price is crazy cheap.
Peake
Well then, this IS total win. Thanks applause
bartleby
h4ndcrafted wrote:
However I'm nu 2 modular, how much would this replace a midi/cv module, do I still need one if I buy this ?

from all we know by know, the mini brute will convert midi notes into cv/gate signals on its cv/gate outputs. so yes, for a start you should be fine with just the minibrute as your first midi to cv/gate interface.

at some later stage, you may want to add an additional dedicated midi-cv/gate converter to your system for a number of reasons:

- you may want more cv outputs for things like velocity, aftertouch, midi cc. also you may want a midi clock to trigger output (but you could get a doepfer msy for that purpose).

- you may want to sequence your minibrute and your modular synth at the same time for different voices (the brute's cv/gate probably just output whatever the brute itself is playing - i think it's unlikely that you can play the brute's internal synth on one midi channel and its cv/gate outputs at another)

- you may want more voices.
mckenic
bartleby wrote:
i think it's unlikely that you can play the brute's internal synth on one midi channel and its cv/gate outputs at another)


Now if that was somehow settable by say, USB - Wow! Either way its exciting!
chamomileshark
thanks for the vid Kent.

I've been out of the loop for a while and this is a total (pleasant) surprise.

I hope it goes well for all those involved
h4ndcrafted
Quote:
[quote="Rod Serling Fan Club"]
h4ndcrafted wrote:


However I'm nu 2 modular, how much would this replace a midi/cv module, do I still need one if I buy this ?


No, this should replace that. You can also control pitch gate from your modular, run modular/external sounds through the filter. It's a great modular companion.



Ty for reply more reading is needed for me in this area.
RubberCityNoise
Th feature set sold me. I was looking for a mono synth with midi and cv capabilities to expand my live set up. I was looking at the Dark Energy or the Minitaur but both were missing a few key features; multi-mode filter, noise, wave shaping, and simultaneous waves out. The Mini Brute has just enough without being overly complex. Then the price! Less than 500 for such a full featured synth. Sure there are some things I could want, but for this price who cares. Pre-ordered!
h4ndcrafted
bartleby wrote:
h4ndcrafted wrote:
However I'm nu 2 modular, how much would this replace a midi/cv module, do I still need one if I buy this ?

from all we know by know, the mini brute will convert midi notes into cv/gate signals on its cv/gate outputs. so yes, for a start you should be fine with just the minibrute as your first midi to cv/gate interface.

at some later stage, you may want to add an additional dedicated midi-cv/gate converter to your system for a number of reasons:

- you may want more cv outputs for things like velocity, aftertouch, midi cc. also you may want a midi clock to trigger output (but you could get a doepfer msy for that purpose).

- you may want to sequence your minibrute and your modular synth at the same time for different voices (the brute's cv/gate probably just output whatever the brute itself is playing - i think it's unlikely that you can play the brute's internal synth on one midi channel and its cv/gate outputs at another)

- you may want more voices.


TYVM, I may just stay with the minibrute for now while I'm getting used to just simple patching. I was looking at a Kenton midi/cv.

I guess i'm going to have to make a few mistakes b4 I'm happy about what is more important for me to control, just too much to know, at this rate I won't ever get around to buying modules.
I'm planning it out much like a hardwired synth atm rather than an experimental, but this is all for another thread.
Ty for your help.
Audio Resistance
yusynth wrote:
Kent wrote:
Congratulations to Yves, Nyle & Arturia for making what I think is the most memorable fixed-architecture synth product at the show. And THANK YOU for not making another Minimoog wannabe. This thing is nuts!


You're welcome Kent ! My motivation was to build a mono-synth that I would have loved using. And hopefully Arturia gave me that chance.


Thank you for one of the most exciting new boards I have seen in a long while. I hope you guys sell boatloads of these!
lessavyfav
It is amazing that this software to hardware route is happening between these software guys and Makenoise's Echophone it seems like a whole new world Of possibilities is opening up for people who love physical interfaces! I hope they kill it!
computer controlled
One thing i've noticed, is that whenever they talk about the backside i/o, they skip right over the Gate Source switch. I wonder why that is.
z3r01
It really is great seeing Arturia taking a step in the right direction, by getting Mr Yves Usson and Mr Nyle Steiner involved, people who truly know and understand what they are doing, in the development of the product, rather than getting a pop star to endorse the product and claim: "So-and-so sold millons of records, hit platinum status, won 4 Grammies blah blah blah cos he used our latest 'product'!". Those marketing tactics might deceive the under-informed, but not the discerning eyes of the well-informed.

As someone who has just gotten into synthesis just a couple of months ago and is still learning, I truly appreciate the great ideas and effort that Mr Usson, Mr Steiner and Arturia have put in, in the development of the MiniBrute. Truly awesome piece of equipment at this point and hopefully, more to come. thumbs up
jbartee
I'm still confused as to what color this thing actually is. It might just be lighting, but it definitely seems like there might be two preproduction enclosures floating around. I like the black better than the blue.

computer controlled
I think its the lighting. I'm guessing it'll be Gray.
computer controlled
Is there an actual Pre-Order button on the Musicians Friend site?
drewtoothpaste
Preordered, looking forward to it. Can't believe it's $425 (@ musician's friend.) Nice work Yves/Yusynth!
jbartee
computer controlled wrote:
I think its the lighting. I'm guessing it'll be Gray.


Here's hoping. Gray is good.

computer controlled wrote:
Is there an actual Pre-Order button on the Musicians Friend site?


No, you just add it to your cart as usual, and they follow up with an email stating the item is "backorderd". Be sure to use the 15% discount code.
gwaidan
yusynth wrote:
gwaidan wrote:
For anyone who's tried it-does the synth itself respond in any way to key velocity? Velocity sensitivity/assignment seems to be MIA on the control panel...


I can answer this question, the velocity mode is by default disabled, to be used it must be actvated through the USB port with the software that will come with the synth.


Thanks for the answer Yves-that was my only concern with it and I'm glad it's sorted. Can't wait to try one!
computer controlled
jbartee wrote:
computer controlled wrote:
I think its the lighting. I'm guessing it'll be Gray.


Here's hoping. Gray is good.

computer controlled wrote:
Is there an actual Pre-Order button on the Musicians Friend site?


No, you just add it to your cart as usual, and they follow up with an email stating the item is "backorderd". Be sure to use the 15% discount code.


OK. Do they take the funds right away, or when it ships?
MrDys
Keeps getting better and better:

yusynth on electro-music wrote:
Note that the Arpeggiator can also be used as a basic sequencer. In the Hold mode, you press and hold the first key of the sequence, then you just enter the other notes by pressing the corresponding keys while still holding the first note of the sequence, during this process you can change the octave range of the keyboard between entering the notes therefore you are not limited to two octaves for the sequence. You can sequence a maximum of 12 notes. Unfortunatly once playing the sequence it cannot be transposed by the keyboard because pressing a new key resets the sequence.
jbartee
computer controlled wrote:
jbartee wrote:
computer controlled wrote:
I think its the lighting. I'm guessing it'll be Gray.


Here's hoping. Gray is good.

computer controlled wrote:
Is there an actual Pre-Order button on the Musicians Friend site?


No, you just add it to your cart as usual, and they follow up with an email stating the item is "backorderd". Be sure to use the 15% discount code.


OK. Do they take the funds right away, or when it ships?


I can't say for sure because I used the "bill me later" option, but typically Musician's Friend doesn't charge your card until they actually ship the item. Maybe someone else has better info...
jbartee
MrDys wrote:
Keeps getting better and better:

yusynth on electro-music wrote:
Note that the Arpeggiator can also be used as a basic sequencer. In the Hold mode, you press and hold the first key of the sequence, then you just enter the other notes by pressing the corresponding keys while still holding the first note of the sequence, during this process you can change the octave range of the keyboard between entering the notes therefore you are not limited to two octaves for the sequence. You can sequence a maximum of 12 notes. Unfortunatly once playing the sequence it cannot be transposed by the keyboard because pressing a new key resets the sequence.


Awesome. Now I'm really curious about the analog sync options for the arp. Arturia seem to imply (sort of) that it can be synced to the gate input, but I also wonder if the arp generates gate outputs that could be used to clock other stuff with.
h4ndcrafted
I like its looks, but hay at this price it may well get a respray anyway!
bsmith
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Preordered, looking forward to it. Can't believe it's $425 (@ musician's friend.) Nice work Yves/Yusynth!


I'm seeing $499 there - how did you swing $425?
computer controlled
That's with the 15% discount they're offering until tomorrow
mono-poly
de_raaf wrote:
the only thing that would make this more killer was having a filter out put mixer (or more simpler switches) for the outputs of lp bp hp notch. i love my cheap siel mono for that option of being able to switch that stuff., but i guess that would have made it to much complicated for starters.
but for the rest i must say the got it very right, i feel very gassed to get this some day, price is insane sharp


But the steiner filter got lp bp hp Inputs no outputs wink
jbartee
mono-poly wrote:
de_raaf wrote:
the only thing that would make this more killer was having a filter out put mixer (or more simpler switches) for the outputs of lp bp hp notch. i love my cheap siel mono for that option of being able to switch that stuff., but i guess that would have made it to much complicated for starters.
but for the rest i must say the got it very right, i feel very gassed to get this some day, price is insane sharp


But the steiner filter got lp bp hp Inputs no outputs wink


I understand the Minibrute version is somewhat improved/tweaked in collaboration with Steiner, but here's Yves's yusynth documentation for those who are curious about the filter architecture: http://yusynth.net/Modular/EN/STEINERVCF/index.html
mono-poly
I am pretty sure they are inputs.

jbartee
mono-poly wrote:
I am pretty sure they are inputs.


I'm sorry, I must have worded my post strangely. I wasn't trying to argue with you! They are definitely inputs. I just wanted to provide the link for people interested in more detail. I'm not super familiar with this filter myself and have been going through the schematics out of curiosity, so just thought I'd share.
M. Rishi
As more demos come in I am falling in love with this thing. It has just the right kind of uniqueness (metalizer, filter, four waves) that is causing me to ignore all other monosynths.

Can anyone comment on the feel/sturdiness of the knobs? I have a tendency to ride cutoff like a mofo.
jabberwalky
Great to see the detunable saw wave as well as PWM simultaneously.

I challenge the next person that's able to demo this to actually use the filter envelope or demonstrate the speed of them.

btw hello I'm new.
Annwn
I'm wondering about the possibility of routing the audio out (with the filter open) and gate to an external filter and envelope and routing it back to the VCA in.
Just to vary things up if I didn't feel like screaming synthacon times all the time.

My noobian knowledge makes me suspect this might work but I'm not entirely sure!

What thinks ye?
Malekko
I'm at namm now and have played this thing every day.
I have even dubbed the minibrute "the queen of namm". It's awesome in every way. It's SOLID (cause its actual metal!) the pots and sliders don't feel cheap, they are smooth and solid. It sounds FANTASTIC!!! It's a little powerhouse that can be smooth or super raw. L-O-V-E!!!!
Peake
Annwn, the audio out is likely after the VCA. You'd want a jack from either the oscillator mixer out or the filter out (and the VCA input would have to interrupt/disconnect the internal signal path as well). Then it would act as a Send/Receive.

I'm not looking at the specs, hopefully it has this capacity.
10011001
bartleby wrote:
and the 101 has this extremely cool little sequencer which is very useful for sequencing your modular synth (and other analog stuff). now if the minibrute had something like that, too...


a sequencer requires thought and planning, unlike an arp that you just hit a bunch of keys and tweak knobs...............remember, this is for hipsters hihi
de_raaf
you can easy seq this via usb, midi, cv, with your favorite seq, no deal breaker in anyway i think, except for sitting on bed, than you rock it another way
Annwn
Peake wrote:
Annwn, the audio out is likely after the VCA. You'd want a jack from either the oscillator mixer out or the filter out (and the VCA input would have to interrupt/disconnect the internal signal path as well). Then it would act as a Send/Receive.

I'm not looking at the specs, hopefully it has this capacity.


Aha, of course! d'oh! Thanks for that.

Should be an easy mod I guess being all analog. I wonder if Mr Usson will release some suggested mods for further modularizing the wee beast?

Fun times!
z3r01
computer controlled wrote:
jbartee wrote:
computer controlled wrote:
I think its the lighting. I'm guessing it'll be Gray.


Here's hoping. Gray is good.

computer controlled wrote:
Is there an actual Pre-Order button on the Musicians Friend site?


No, you just add it to your cart as usual, and they follow up with an email stating the item is "backorderd". Be sure to use the 15% discount code.


OK. Do they take the funds right away, or when it ships?


Yup I believe that they do take the funds right away. I paid using my debit card and the money has been earmarked, pending the approval of the order.
worstofthewurst
edit: nevermind, question already answered
Kent
M. Rishi wrote:

Can anyone comment on the feel/sturdiness of the knobs? I have a tendency to ride cutoff like a mofo.


The fact that this question did not pop into my head whilst playing with it should tell us something. Never thought about it once.

The MPC Studio on the other hand... cheap & ugly.
z3r01
Kent wrote:
The MPC Studio on the other hand... cheap & ugly.


The MPC Studio costs USD$999 too, not sure if its capabilities justify the price.
hughyg
shaft9000 wrote:
this going to sell like crazy
everyone and their mother is going to give this a go sooner or later

kudos to arturia, yves and nile screaming goo yo screaming goo yo screaming goo yo


Next microkorg?? I think so. get ready to see a lot of them in live gigs!
Drumdrumdrumdrum
This thing just keeps getting better.

From Matrixsynth: Note that the Arpeggiator can also be used as a basic sequencer. In the Hold mode, you press and hold the first key of the sequence, then you just enter the other notes by pressing the corresponding keys while still holding the first note of the sequence, during this process you can change the octave range of the keyboard between entering the notes therefore you are not limited to two octaves for the sequence. You can sequence a maximum of 12 notes. Unfortunatly once playing the sequence it cannot be transposed by the keyboard because pressing a new key resets the sequence."
pulse_divider
M. Rishi wrote:
As more demos come in I am falling in love with this thing. It has just the right kind of uniqueness (metalizer, filter, four waves) that is causing me to ignore all other monosynths.

Can anyone comment on the feel/sturdiness of the knobs? I have a tendency to ride cutoff like a mofo.


It looks like you can assign the filter cutoff directly to the mod wheel.
h4ndcrafted
10011001 wrote:
bartleby wrote:
and the 101 has this extremely cool little sequencer which is very useful for sequencing your modular synth (and other analog stuff). now if the minibrute had something like that, too...


a sequencer requires thought and planning, unlike an arp that you just hit a bunch of keys and tweak knobs...............remember, this is for hipsters hihi


You are not using Waldorf arp , my Blofeld certainly takes planning.
jbartee
For those of us speculating on the color, an admin posted this over at the arturia forums:

"New color scheme for the analog beast: industrial style, grey/black backgorund with white printings, serviceable for dark stages."
http://www.arturia.com/evolution/smf/index.php?topic=5669.msg18689#msg 18689
James Mandible
jbartee wrote:
For those of us speculating on the color, an admin posted this over at the arturia forums:

"New color scheme for the analog beast: industrial style, grey/black backgorund with white printings, serviceable for dark stages."
http://www.arturia.com/evolution/smf/index.php?topic=5669.msg18689#msg 18689


That's what I was thinking it was supposed to be, although some of the vids did make me wonder if it was navy or not. Thanks for the info!
MrDys
Bit the bullet. Ordered. Can't wait.
r05c03
I ordered too....I am looking forward to running this out and through my MF Freqbox and back in. I may be able to modulate the filter with the 'wave out' on the Freqbox and concert with the MP-201 tune the have the Freqbox follow, but at a different interval...and add in the ring mod...oh.
Jason Brock
shaft9000 wrote:
indeed - it sounds like there may also be an on-board ENVELOPE FOLLOWER:
You will find the 3-position Gate Source selector on the backpanel:
* Audio: an external signal trigs the envelopes



Not quite the same as an envelope follower - just another way to trigger the gate.
A lot of synths will react to audio at the gate input, including Korg's Monotribe.
oscillateur
Lots of info/specs/sounds on Arturia's website :
http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/minibrute/
gwaidan
Malekko wrote:
I'm at namm now and have played this thing every day.
I have even dubbed the minibrute "the queen of namm". It's awesome in every way.


If it's good enough for Malekko...just pre-ordered. MF's shipping to Australia is surprisingly cheap-came to $451 all up including the 15% off.

On another note...the GS thread on this just reminds me how great Muff's is-some representative quotes...

Quote:
the question for me, same as for the minitaur: Will it have a VST/AAX counterpart for full recall and seamless integration. I should be able to dial in a sound and have it saved on the session. That way the synth can always remain patched in and always recall properly exactly like if it was a software instrument. Do that and I am SOLD.


and

Quote:
Hope they do a software version of it.


d'oh!
infradead
gwaidan wrote:
Malekko wrote:
I'm at namm now and have played this thing every day.
I have even dubbed the minibrute "the queen of namm". It's awesome in every way.


If it's good enough for Malekko...just pre-ordered. MF's shipping to Australia is surprisingly cheap-came to $451 all up including the 15% off.

On another note...the GS thread on this just reminds me how great Muff's is-some representative quotes...

Quote:
the question for me, same as for the minitaur: Will it have a VST/AAX counterpart for full recall and seamless integration. I should be able to dial in a sound and have it saved on the session. That way the synth can always remain patched in and always recall properly exactly like if it was a software instrument. Do that and I am SOLD.


and

Quote:
Hope they do a software version of it.


d'oh!


oh man.. now you have me reading that site. lol

i had thought my lust for things with keyboards was done but this has restarted it
z3r01
Just received an e-mail from MF that the estimated ship date for my order will be 15 Feb. Ahhh the wait...will be worth it! thumbs up
loydb
infradead wrote:
oh man.. now you have me reading that site. lol


Dude. Friends don't let friends read GS.
yusynth
shaft9000 wrote:
Drumdrumdrumdrum wrote:
This thing just keeps getting better.


indeed - it sounds like there may also be an on-board ENVELOPE FOLLOWER:

l


It is not an enveloppe follower but an enveloppe trigger that is when the level reaches a given threshold it triggers the internal ADSR generators.

The threshold level (three possible values) can be set through the USB port with the control software just has for Velocity and Aftertouch.
MrDys
Walking in to work today, I was thinking that between the sine subosc, self-oscillating filter, wavefolding triangle, noise source, arpeggiator and tight envelopes...this is going to make a great drum machine.
mark_snipz
Question for yusynth, is the arpeggiator clockable externally by a CV trigger?
Chuck E. Jesus
missed the sales d'oh!
Jason Brock
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
missed the sales d'oh!


Don't worry, you can hold that $425 price over people's heads when they show up in the BST forum. 75% is $318.
jbartee
mark_snipz wrote:
Question for yusynth, is the arpeggiator clockable externally by a CV trigger?


Also very curious about this!
Chuck E. Jesus
Jason Brock wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
missed the sales d'oh!


Don't worry, you can hold that $425 price over people's heads when they show up in the BST forum. 75% is $318.


lol i don't think that will work...
monroe
A rackmount/standalone version without the keyboard for $100 less would be awesome.
jeannot
SH-101s should be going down in price now
Sir Ruff
jeannot wrote:
SH-101s should be going down in price now


Even if they did, I can't imagine them coming down enough to truly lose the vintage price tag they currently command. Only a new sh-101 from roland could do that. But a synth like the minibrute at least brings the limited functionality of many older, incredibly overpriced, budget synths like the 101 into sharp focus.
wavecircle
Sir Ruff wrote:
jeannot wrote:
SH-101s should be going down in price now


Even if they did, I can't imagine them coming down enough to truly lose the vintage price tag they currently command. Only a new sh-101 from roland could do that. But a synth like the minibrute at least brings the limited functionality of many older, incredibly overpriced, budget synths like the 101 into sharp focus.


I keep pining over the sh101 but to be perfectly honest I think the Minibrute probably bests the 101 in almost every department. Let the collectors keep 'em I guess. Perhaps the big companies will get their arses in gear towards analogue again. Korg has been slowly itching that way of the last few years.
Sir Ruff
wavecircle wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
jeannot wrote:
SH-101s should be going down in price now


Even if they did, I can't imagine them coming down enough to truly lose the vintage price tag they currently command. Only a new sh-101 from roland could do that. But a synth like the minibrute at least brings the limited functionality of many older, incredibly overpriced, budget synths like the 101 into sharp focus.


I keep pining over the sh101 but to be perfectly honest I think the Minibrute probably bests the 101 in almost every department. Let the collectors keep 'em I guess.


Exactly... but there will always be a purist element that complains either that the MB doesn't have a 24db filter, or that the envelopes don't have the right shape, or that you can't clock the arp with an external signal (which it looks like you can?), blah blah blah.

Anyways, for what 101s go for, I'd have a 2nd minibrute, thanks lol
mateo
I don't know... I'm definitely looking forward to the minibrute but I don't see it as a replacements for my 101, if only for the sequencer.
Drumdrumdrumdrum
I like that we have stated to affectionately call it the "MB". I will be buying one as soon as I spend another $4000 on modules.

Never maintain cash savings again
computer controlled
Nothing will replace the 101. Not until someone decides to make its sequencer available.

Here's what i'm hoping for the MB:
ARP output from CV/Gate
Portamento output from the CV
ARP clockable from Gate Input
z3r01
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
missed the sales d'oh!


I just received an e-mail coupon from GC, for 13% off. It can be used with the MB, and is valid for 24 & 25 January. Code: 2DAY
clusterchord
Sir Ruff wrote:

Exactly... but there will always be a purist element that complains either that the MB doesn't have a 24db filter, or that the envelopes don't have the right shape, or that you can't clock the arp with an external signal (which it looks like you can?), blah blah blah.

Anyways, for what 101s go for, I'd have a 2nd minibrute, thanks lol


whilst i agree prices for 101 are overinflated (as most things vintage nowadays), but i fail to see how choice of using a board with Rolands 24dB over Steiner 12dB has anything to do with "purists/purism" ?!? seriously, i just don't get it

i mean, they are completely different sounds. and excell in absolutely different applications. so the choice is purely creative.

example: for most meat n potatos basses i prefer a 4pole filter. i can never get the same behaviour and sonics from a 2pole, which i also like but for a different kind of bass. then, 4pole for plinky lightning fast perc sequences is also a treat etc. also, number of poles aint all, a SEM 12dB sounds WAY different from Steiner's etc etc.


all in all, i feel lot of ppl make way too much out of the fact these two boards have some visual similarities (i.e. small and grey, sliders etc), and a few arhitectural similarities.. (i.e. miniBrute copied the waveform mixing and subosc from SH101). that only goes so far, as they still sound apples and oranges.

as said bfr, if Roland, or perhaps someone else made another miniBrute-ish form factor keyboard, that used, let's say, Oakley's COTA (a 3109-sh clone that nailed it imho), instead of Yu-Synths Steiner, and added a simple digi sequencer&arp... then we could perhaps talk of a "new SH101".
loydb
Regarding Korg, I expect them to come out with something awesome in the $1K-$1.5K range in 2013 that incorporates all the analog stuff they've been doing lately into one monster unit.

I can hope, at least... love
Jason Brock
Sir Ruff wrote:
wavecircle wrote:

I keep pining over the sh101 but to be perfectly honest I think the Minibrute probably bests the 101 in almost every department. Let the collectors keep 'em I guess.


Exactly... but there will always be a purist element that complains either that the MB doesn't have a 24db filter, or that the envelopes don't have the right shape


The only reason anyone is comparing them is because the MiniBrute looks similar (small keyboard, sliders). They are going to sound very different, if for no other reason than the Steiner filter is a completely different animal compared to the cascading OTA design Roland used. That's not a complaint, I'm just saying they will sound different. I've owned two incarnations of a Steiner filter (one being a DIY box based on Yusynth's design) and I love the sound of them. But they sound very different from Roland/Moog filters. So I don't see how anyone could expect either synth to "replace" the other, sound-wise.
Sir Ruff
Jason Brock wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
wavecircle wrote:

I keep pining over the sh101 but to be perfectly honest I think the Minibrute probably bests the 101 in almost every department. Let the collectors keep 'em I guess.


Exactly... but there will always be a purist element that complains either that the MB doesn't have a 24db filter, or that the envelopes don't have the right shape


The only reason anyone is comparing them is because the MiniBrute looks similar (small keyboard, sliders). They are going to sound very different, if for no other reason than the Steiner filter is a completely different animal compared to the cascading OTA design Roland used. That's not a complaint, I'm just saying they will sound different. I've owned two incarnations of a Steiner filter (one being a DIY box based on Yusynth's design) and I love the sound of them. But they sound very different from Roland/Moog filters. So I don't see how anyone could expect either synth to "replace" the other, sound-wise.


I think for current owners, this won't replace their 101, but I can't imagine that a new synth buyer wouldn't look at these two, and their respective price tags, and do some serious comparisons.
RubberCityNoise
As otheres have said, the Mini Brute is not in the same leauge as the SH-101 and niether will give eachother competition. However, it will bring hard competition to the new entry level analog synth market. A fully tweakable analoge synth with 1 knob per function, multimode filter, wave shaping, syncable arpeggiator, cv in/out, and a keybord at the $500 price point will fight with the Mopho keybaord, and desktop synths like the Minitaur, Dark Energy, and Pulse 2 despite being all different beasts. It has everything that I was wishing the others had and has me sold. I am assuming I am not alone.
haven
I am very interested in this to go next to my Cirklon for programming in note sequences while also providing an extra mono voice. I have two questions

-Is it capable of Local Off? I want to use the keyboard separately from the CV interface. That is, drive the voice with MIDI or CV/gate while using the keyboard to control the Cirklon and other instruments.

-Is the only MIDI control routes Mod wheel to Filter or Velocity to VCA? So no external control over the wave folder or envelope times?

EDIT the answer for #2 is on their site
"The Aftertouch can be routed to the Cutoff or Vibrato amounts for increased feel and control.

To quickly add lively variations to your leads and basses, use the Pitch and Modulation wheels. The Modulation wheel can be set to control the Cutoff, Vibrato, and LFO amounts. "
Chuck E. Jesus
RubberCityNoise wrote:
desktop synths like the Minitaur, Dark Energy, and Pulse 2...


they are fuckin' pokemon: collect 'em all...
Sir Ruff
RubberCityNoise wrote:
As otheres have said, the Mini Brute is not in the same leauge as the SH-101 and niether will give eachother competition. However, it will bring hard competition to the new entry level analog synth market. A fully tweakable analoge synth with 1 knob per function, multimode filter, wave shaping, syncable arpeggiator, cv in/out, and a keybord at the $500 price point will fight with the Mopho keybaord, and desktop synths like the Minitaur, Dark Energy, and Pulse 2 despite being all different beasts. It has everything that I was wishing the others had and has me sold. I am assuming I am not alone.


Sorry, this is kind of funny: the 101 is the very definition of an entry-level budget synth; that's exactly how it was first marketed. 30 years of price inflation hasn't altered its cheap, plastic construction.
And ignoring sonics, the MB clearly, unequivocally, kills the 101 in terms of features, as well as pretty much every other "entry level" synth you mentioned (1 oscillator vs. 2 aside). Clearly they priced it too low to be taken seriously meh
RubberCityNoise
Sir Ruff wrote:
RubberCityNoise wrote:
As otheres have said, the Mini Brute is not in the same leauge as the SH-101 and niether will give eachother competition. However, it will bring hard competition to the new entry level analog synth market. A fully tweakable analoge synth with 1 knob per function, multimode filter, wave shaping, syncable arpeggiator, cv in/out, and a keybord at the $500 price point will fight with the Mopho keybaord, and desktop synths like the Minitaur, Dark Energy, and Pulse 2 despite being all different beasts. It has everything that I was wishing the others had and has me sold. I am assuming I am not alone.


Sorry, this is kind of funny: the 101 is the very definition of an entry-level budget synth; that's exactly how it was first marketed. 30 years of price inflation hasn't altered its cheap, plastic construction.
And ignoring sonics, the MB clearly, unequivocally, kills the 101 in terms of features, as well as pretty much every other "entry level" synth you mentioned (1 oscillator vs. 2 aside). Clearly they priced it too low to be taken seriously meh


The key here is 30 years ago. It is in a different leauge because is a vintage synth that you just can't buy at GC or MF and is by no means budget anymore. Just look at the TB-303. Also, it has very different features: filter, sequencer, keytar arm, plus color option of bright red.

But yes, the MB rocks in terms of features. I am really excited to get this at my door.
Jason Brock
Sir Ruff wrote:
And ignoring sonics, the MB clearly, unequivocally, kills the 101 in terms of features, as well as pretty much every other "entry level" synth you mentioned (1 oscillator vs. 2 aside). Clearly they priced it too low to be taken seriously meh


I think everyone here is taking it seriously. In fact I'm really struggling to remember any other NAMM synth from recent years that has been so well received, with so many people pre-ordering it instantly.

I just don't understand the need to be so defensive when someone suggests that they might like another synth better. No synth "kills" another one. They are different. They will sound different. And I never ignore sonics.
Sir Ruff
RubberCityNoise wrote:
The key here is 30 years ago. It is in a different leauge because is a vintage synth that you just can't buy at GC or MF and is by no means budget anymore. Just look at the TB-303. Also, it has very different features: filter, sequencer, keytar arm, plus color option of bright red.


You're pointing out a key issue with many overpriced vintage synths today: inflation does not a better synth make. A budget synth in 1981 is still a budget synth today, but in the meantime, I think many of us have misconstrued high prices for "quality".

On that note, the MB can sequence up the 12 notes via the arp...

Jason Brock wrote:
I just don't understand the need to be so defensive when someone suggests that they might like another synth better. No synth "kills" another one. They are different. They will sound different. And I never ignore sonics.


Of course, and I'm really not here to defend the MB (since I haven't even played the damn thing...yet!). But there people in the synth world have a major penchant for focusing on the vintage aspect alone, ignoring all others, and the desire for anything vintage has extended now to the budget realm. I'm just trying to purvey some rationality.
mosaiclive
I just got a "Backordered" email from MF concerning my MiniBrute order. Anyone else get one of these? I ordered mine early last Friday so I thought I was getting in kind of early. Not early enough I guess!
dogoftears
okay well i was really excited about this synth, and i gave it a nice long demo with my friend at NAMM.

personally i thought it was a little weak sounding, and so did he. the oscillator is kind of wimpy until you turn some of the waveshaping on. the waveshaping and supersaw are cool, but not altogether mind-blowing. and the envelopes are not really very sexy. in the "short" setting i still had to have decay set to near zero to get into the range of resolution i need for tight kicks and basses, and the attack is pretty much click-to-fade, it's quite difficult to just dial in a transparent, transient hiding attack ramp. also, the oscillator is tuned entirely through the keyboard and octave switches. personally i'd have preferred a full range master frequency knob. and my last complaint is that although the LFO goes into audiorate, it's not very high (maybe 100-200 hz) so the only way to get crazy FM fx is using the external CV in and another oscillator. i guess i got spoiled by the monotrons LFO...

these were the main problems. the filter is really cool, very non-moogy, screaming, kind of noisy in a good way. the aesthetics are great. build quality is great. but my lust for it is kind of killed. my fantasy was that i could use it as a great little CV keyboard and also get a bunch of nice "bread and butter" type sounds out of her, but alas it is not quite pro enough for the latter application.

YMMV-- josh malekko looked at me like i was crazy when i said all this. but i really suggest trying her out before buying (every guitar center should have one soon i imagine)... and definitely don't compare to the SH101, this is an all time classic squelching synth that will only ever be mirrored through cloning it's circuitry!! people with massive walls of modular and tons of esoteric gear still swear by the 101 for a reason (example: cevin key and phil western).
RubberCityNoise
Sir Ruff wrote:
RubberCityNoise wrote:
The key here is 30 years ago. It is in a different leauge because is a vintage synth that you just can't buy at GC or MF and is by no means budget anymore. Just look at the TB-303. Also, it has very different features: filter, sequencer, keytar arm, plus color option of bright red.


You're pointing out a key issue with many overpriced vintage synths today: inflation does not a better synth make. A budget synth in 1981 is still a budget synth today, but in the meantime, I think many of us have misconstrued high prices for "quality".

On that note, the MB can sequence up the 12 notes via the arp...

Jason Brock wrote:
I just don't understand the need to be so defensive when someone suggests that they might like another synth better. No synth "kills" another one. They are different. They will sound different. And I never ignore sonics.


Of course, and I'm really not here to defend the MB (since I haven't even played the damn thing...yet!). But there people in the synth world have a major penchant for focusing on the vintage aspect alone, ignoring all others, and the desire for anything vintage has extended now to the budget realm. I'm just trying to purvey some rationality.


The point is, these are very different synths with different features. A person looking to buy one won't buy the other. It has nothing to do with defending over priced synths. The key with vintage synths is that they are out of production, many parts are just not made anymore. Small supply, large demand = over inflated prices. Are they over priced? Yes. Does this affect teh MB. Not really. If I want a SH-101, I'll get an sh-101. If I want a cheap, fully featured mono synth, I'll get a Mb.
jbartee
mosaiclive wrote:
I just got a "Backordered" email from MF concerning my MiniBrute order. Anyone else get one of these? I ordered mine early last Friday so I thought I was getting in kind of early. Not early enough I guess!


I also ordered on Friday, and got the same backordered email. I thought this was just their default message when they don't have items for immediate shipment, but given that z3r01 says he got an email with an estimated ship date of feb 15th, it's looking like we may have missed the first batch.

Also, official word from Arturia is still that these aren't going out at all until April, so it's hard to say what's up with the MF dates. Whatever the case, it's clear that 1000 units for the first run is not nearly enough given the interest. I hope they're already cracking on production run #2.
VanEck
dogoftears wrote:
okay well i was really excited about this synth, and i gave it a nice long demo with my friend at NAMM.

personally i thought it was a little weak sounding, and so did he. the oscillator is kind of wimpy until you turn some of the waveshaping on. the waveshaping and supersaw are cool, but not altogether mind-blowing. and the envelopes are not really very sexy. in the "short" setting i still had to have decay set to near zero to get into the range of resolution i need for tight kicks and basses, and the attack is pretty much click-to-fade, it's quite difficult to just dial in a transparent, transient hiding attack ramp. also, the oscillator is tuned entirely through the keyboard and octave switches. personally i'd have preferred a full range master frequency knob. and my last complaint is that although the LFO goes into audiorate, it's not very high (maybe 100-200 hz) so the only way to get crazy FM fx is using the external CV in and another oscillator. i guess i got spoiled by the monotrons LFO...

these were the main problems. the filter is really cool, very non-moogy, screaming, kind of noisy in a good way. the aesthetics are great. build quality is great. but my lust for it is kind of killed. my fantasy was that i could use it as a great little CV keyboard and also get a bunch of nice "bread and butter" type sounds out of her, but alas it is not quite pro enough for the latter application.

YMMV-- josh malekko looked at me like i was crazy when i said all this. but i really suggest trying her out before buying (every guitar center should have one soon i imagine)... and definitely don't compare to the SH101, this is an all time classic squelching synth that will only ever be mirrored through cloning it's circuitry!! people with massive walls of modular and tons of esoteric gear still swear by the 101 for a reason (example: cevin key and phil western).


I'd probably look at you crazy too... its not meant to be "pro" by any means. It is an entry level all analog starter synth with *some* potential to be used more seriously when used with other gear. We're not dealing with a Cwejman here. Those "limitations" you point out are far from a deal breaker for me, and if anything, I expected them for the price level. I will gladly drop my $475 on it and take the risk, and hopefully discover it to be money well spent.
clusterchord
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
RubberCityNoise wrote:
desktop synths like the Minitaur, Dark Energy, and Pulse 2...


they are fuckin' pokemon: collect 'em all...


lol so true..


add micromac, lancet.. they're so cute, id love to have them all on a sml desk for live gigs.. with expert sleepers and ableton running buncha sequences... and of to tweaka-land...

It's motherfucking bacon yo



bk on topic, regardless of the sh101 comparisons, and the minibrute VCO a bit on the wimpy side (i noticed thru demos too, fwiw).. filter and features are really nice.. and i think it has a brite future... and it may help speed up similar products from other manufacturers who havent got their feet wet yet.

good times for analog, one way or another... thumbs up
Jaspo
I ordered Sunday and my order on the mf website is showing a ship date of 2/17/2012. The email doesn't show backordered and I got a confirmation phone call. The csr said the were a lot of orders, "like 50", but since he spoke in d00d speak I am not sure it was a real number.
jbartee
If you check the actual order status page at MF, does it list it as backordered? Here's what mine looks like:



It seems estimated ship date is still Feb 17 regardless of order status.
Jaspo
Yeah, it does show backordered on that page. I would be very surprised it it ships on the 17th .... and very happy. Unless it's April 17th :(
mosaiclive
Mine looks just like jbartee's-"Backordered" but with a ship date of 2/17/12. I hope that's true- that's right around the corner. Now I've got to go make room for a new synth.

As far as the sound is concerned, I'm not really looking for a 'wimpy' sound but I don't mind something a little thinner/basic sounding. I've got some pretty beefy sounding synths already and am actually looking forward to something that can add simple little leads, FX, arps, etc on top of what I've got going underneath. I wouldn't base my entire setup on just an MB but I think it's going to be a great addition to a lot of people's setups(mine included!)
dogoftears
VanEck wrote:
dogoftears wrote:

YMMV-- josh malekko looked at me like i was crazy when i said all this. but i really suggest trying her out before buying (every guitar center should have one soon i imagine)... and definitely don't compare to the SH101, this is an all time classic squelching synth that will only ever be mirrored through cloning it's circuitry!! people with massive walls of modular and tons of esoteric gear still swear by the 101 for a reason (example: cevin key and phil western).


I'd probably look at you crazy too... its not meant to be "pro" by any means. It is an entry level all analog starter synth with *some* potential to be used more seriously when used with other gear. We're not dealing with a Cwejman here. Those "limitations" you point out are far from a deal breaker for me, and if anything, I expected them for the price level. I will gladly drop my $475 on it and take the risk, and hopefully discover it to be money well spent.


that's all fine and dandy for you, but not for me. for me, if the envelopes suck and oscillator is wimpy, the thing just isn't going to stand out in a mix the way i want. for less money i can get an evolver which sounds loads better, IMO. for a bit more money i could get Ken's Micromac, which sounded AMAZING and which he said would be priced around 900-950 i think. yes, the Arturia is a good deal, you get a keyboard and a great interface and good connectivity on the back. i just wanted to let others know my experience in case they're actually expecting it to sound as sick as an sh101, or a Pro One, or whatever.

and as for the 101, come on, inflated prices?? i regularly see this synth go for 700-900 dollars in BST and i think that's a fine deal for a 101. thing sounds great and has stood the test of time in terms of the usability of its features and sounds in aaaallll kinds of electronic music. when i think of inflated prices of analog, i think of minimoogs, 2600s, vcs3's, 303, et al, but not the 101.
burnsjed
dogoftears wrote:
IMO. for a bit more money i could get Ken's Micromac, which sounded AMAZING and which he said would be priced around 900-950 i think.


From what I have read, isn't it GBP 995-00?
Not sure what the cost will be in the U.S but at current rates is closer to $1,500 which is 3 times the cost of the Minibrute, totally different price point to be fair.
jabberwalky
Ordered Sunday for the deal on MF.

Backordered email today.

I might as well forget that I even bought it for a while or I'll go crazy.

Seems I should have just paid slightly more somewhere else to receive it in a decent time frame...
RubberCityNoise
Either way, this is gonna put a fully analog synth in the hands of people who other wise couldn't afford one before (Especially with all the features) for under $500. I feel the good this will do will far outweigh weather or not it has the snappiest EG or fattest oscillators. If the size of this thread is any indication of how hot it will be, you bet other manufactures will be putting these types of instruments back in product lineups. Eventually, if we are lucky, we will see a wide array of analog synths both entry level and professional. If people want to buy it bad enough, and someone makes money doing it, others will jump on to try and improve it. Fingers crossed that this is just the beginning.
jbartee
jabberwalky wrote:
Ordered Sunday for the deal on MF.

Backordered email today.

I might as well forget that I even bought it for a while or I'll go crazy.

Seems I should have just paid slightly more somewhere else to receive it in a decent time frame...


Anything is possible, but I'll be really surprised if we see anyone -and I mean anyone, including reviewers- receive units until mid to late march at the earliest.

February ship dates would be insanely fast turnaround from announcement to availability. I hope I eat my words; I'm really excited to get my hands on this.
RubberCityNoise
jabberwalky wrote:
Ordered Sunday for the deal on MF.

Backordered email today.

I might as well forget that I even bought it for a while or I'll go crazy.

Seems I should have just paid slightly more somewhere else to receive it in a decent time frame...

All backorder means is that the manufacturer is not shipping them yet. It does not matter where you buy it from, it is backordered whether or not it says it because it is not released yet. If you pre ordered it, it will ship when it arrives. Estimated ship dates are just that. Usually it is longer than stated. I work for and online store that sells music equipment. So settle down and wait. It is not released yet, you will get it when they ship. I am waiting too,
Sir Ruff
dogoftears wrote:
that's all fine and dandy for you, but not for me. for me, if the envelopes suck and oscillator is wimpy, the thing just isn't going to stand out in a mix the way i want. for less money i can get an evolver which sounds loads better, IMO. for a bit more money i could get Ken's Micromac, which sounded AMAZING and which he said would be priced around 900-950 i think.


Comparing this to the evolver desktop is kind of silly for any number of reasons, and the minimac is 950 pounds, which is about $1500 give or take.

RubberCityNoise wrote:
Either way, this is gonna put a fully analog synth in the hands of people who other wise couldn't afford one before (Especially with all the features) for under $500. I feel the good this will do will far outweigh weather or not it has the snappiest EG or fattest oscillators. If the size of this thread is any indication of how hot it will be, you bet other manufactures will be putting these types of instruments back in product lineups. Eventually, if we are lucky, we will see a wide array of analog synths both entry level and professional. If people want to buy it bad enough, and someone makes money doing it, others will jump on to try and improve it. Fingers crossed that this is just the beginning.


Agreed! thumbs up
James Mandible
jbartee wrote:
jabberwalky wrote:
Ordered Sunday for the deal on MF.

Backordered email today.

I might as well forget that I even bought it for a while or I'll go crazy.

Seems I should have just paid slightly more somewhere else to receive it in a decent time frame...


Anything is possible, but I'll be really surprised if we see anyone -and I mean anyone, including reviewers- receive units until mid to late march at the earliest.

February ship dates would be insanely fast turnaround from announcement to availability. I hope I eat my words; I'm really excited to get my hands on this.


I got a call from Sweetwater saying mine's scheduled to ship on Feb. 28th. Feb. seems the date from all the online retailers so far but who knows.
z3r01
I double checked my order status with MF, from their website, and it seems that the estimated ship date has changed from 15 Feb to 17 Feb.

Hmmm...I reckon Arturia may have expected a good response for the MB, but received an overwhelming response instead. Well, hope all turns out great. Mr. Green
Chuck E. Jesus
got the Banjo Center discount (but had to pay tax), no idea when it ships...
Kent
Better & More Sound Files Here

+ very clear and well-lain out feature explanations.
itijik
Whoa, sounds awesome!
h4ndcrafted
Dammit I know they are different beasts in a lot of respects, but if you are just after sound and n ot the control options, Mopho KB is stil looking very nice.

Just ordered Minibrute anyway...dat filter.
VanEck
h4ndcrafted wrote:
Dammit I know they are different beasts in a lot of respects, but if you are just after sound and n ot the control options, Mopho KB is stil looking very nice.

Just ordered Minibrute anyway...dat filter.


I too was in the market for a Mopho Key until the Brute was announced. The main reason I choose the Brute over it was interface. Even though I know the Mopho may have more to offer feature wise, everything is still not all layed out in front of you ala SH-101 style, which is my favorite synth I have ever owned. Interface is everything to me. If I can't get a good work flow with a machine or dial in what I want to create quickly and easily, my ADD kicks in and I just get frustrated or distracted or end up never using the thing much. That is also why I sold my Evolver. I absolutely loved the sound... but at the same time, absolutely hated the interface.

The interface on the Brute seems more than inviting. Just looking at pictures of it inspires patch ideas. I want to reach out and tweak those knobs and sliders. The layout just makes sense. Very excited to play with it.

And yes, dat filter... had a Frequensteiner in my rig for a while. Loved that sound, especially that high pass. If the version of the Parker Steiner VCF in the Brute comes anywhere close, I will be very satisfied.
h4ndcrafted
VanEck wrote:
h4ndcrafted wrote:
Dammit I know they are different beasts in a lot of respects, but if you are just after sound and n ot the control options, Mopho KB is stil looking very nice.

Just ordered Minibrute anyway...dat filter.


I too was in the market for a Mopho Key until the Brute was announced. The main reason I choose the Brute over it was interface. Even though I know the Mopho may have more to offer feature wise, everything is still not all layed out in front of you ala SH-101 style, which is my favorite synth I have ever owned. Interface is everything to me. If I can't get a good work flow with a machine or dial in what I want to create quickly and easily, my ADD kicks in and I just get frustrated or distracted or end up never using the thing much. That is also why I sold my Evolver. I absolutely loved the sound... but at the same time, absolutely hated the interface.

The interface on the Brute seems more than inviting. Just looking at pictures of it inspires patch ideas. I want to reach out and tweak those knobs and sliders. The layout just makes sense. Very excited to play with it.

And yes, dat filter... had a Frequensteiner in my rig for a while. Loved that sound, especially that high pass. If the version of the Parker Steiner VCF in the Brute comes anywhere close, I will be very satisfied.


This^ on a side note our avatars are looking quite scary together lulz
loydb
jabberwalky wrote:
I might as well forget that I even bought it for a while or I'll go crazy.


Yeah, I'm ready for this thread to stop getting bumped so I can begin the process of flushing my preorder out of my memory banks. sad banana
Christopher Winkels
Kent wrote:
Better & More Sound Files Here

+ very clear and well-lain out feature explanations.


That just shifted from "want" to "must have".
CalvaryBand
Wow, great demo page. Excited to get mine!
Rod Serling Fan Club
Me too - I just listened to the demo page examples. It sounds really great.
jbartee
Ruh-roh!

whitewulfe
jbartee wrote:
Ruh-roh!



Damn, can't even pick one up for my birthday now lol
pulse_divider
I wonder if this means that the entire first run sold out via preorder already?
jbartee
pulse_divider wrote:
I wonder if this means that the entire first run sold out via preorder already?


Maybe... but my order status (placed on the 20th) is now showing the same ship date.
MrDys
pulse_divider wrote:
I wonder if this means that the entire first run sold out via preorder already?


It means that it's shipping April. Everyone at NAMM said April. Yves said April. MF and GC pulled shipping dates out of their ass (as they tend to do) and have now just corrected their site.
pulse_divider
Ah, that makes sense. I preordered this weekend and am looking forward to it but also not in a hurry.
revtor
Love the flexibility of this.. it's like someone who actually uses analog synths really decided to make a new analog synth.

dont love the tiny keyboard.. but that's all I dont like so far! everything else seems really well done. arp/lfos/ syncability./ CV/MIDI implementation.. the UI with silders for ADSR' and mixers.. the "fx" add ons (super saw, tri metallizer, brute factor) the NO menus, presets or dumb LED digits at all.. YES


well done Arturia. Now give me one with an extra octave, or desktop/rackmount.

~Steve
zedius
I pre-ordered from MF yesterday morning, and shortly after got a backorder notification. Yesterday my ship date was still in February.

I phoned MF tech support, and the woman told me that the backorder meant just that. The item was out of stock and they would inform me when they got new stock. I clarified and told her it was a pre-order, and that I was wondering if 'backordered' simply meant out of stock BECAUSE it is a pre-order, or if 'backordered' meant that the pre-orders were out of stock. She understood and went to her higher ups for a clarification.

She came back and told me that MF had indeed sold out of their first order.

Whether they will be able to order more before Arturia burns through their first run is a different matter. If they can't, there will be more delays based on how long it takes Arturia to complete a second run.

Given the absurd level of interest this synth has generated, I would be very shocked if they didn't have a 2nd run already in the works, so no matter what I don't anticipate very long delays.

I have sent an email to Arturia for some clarification on the release date, and will post here if they give me any good info.
Sir Ruff
MrDys wrote:
pulse_divider wrote:
I wonder if this means that the entire first run sold out via preorder already?


It means that it's shipping April. Everyone at NAMM said April. Yves said April. MF and GC pulled shipping dates out of their ass (as they tend to do) and have now just corrected their site.


hmmm... that's cheeky to say the least. And here I was propagating this "early Feb. release" myth neutral
Christopher Winkels
whitewulfe wrote:
jbartee wrote:
Ruh-roh!



Damn, can't even pick one up for my birthday now lol


I feel your pain, brother. Hug
zedius
Hey, quick question: Part of my desire to buy this is that it seems like it will be immediately useful as a midi/cv interface cv keyboard for a modular system in the future.

I've heard a number of people on forums complaining about the one oscillator. For the folks who want another oscillator, could they not just have any oscillator they want plugged into the audio input on this and controlled by the keyboard using the cv output?
Chuck E. Jesus
i'm going to keep checking this thread daily...
jbartee
zedius wrote:
Hey, quick question: Part of my desire to buy this is that it seems like it will be immediately useful as a midi/cv interface cv keyboard for a modular system in the future.

I've heard a number of people on forums complaining about the one oscillator. For the folks who want another oscillator, could they not just have any oscillator they want plugged into the audio input on this and controlled by the keyboard using the cv output?


Yes.
jbartee
zedius wrote:
I pre-ordered from MF yesterday morning, and shortly after got a backorder notification. Yesterday my ship date was still in February.

I phoned MF tech support, and the woman told me that the backorder meant just that. The item was out of stock and they would inform me when they got new stock. I clarified and told her it was a pre-order, and that I was wondering if 'backordered' simply meant out of stock BECAUSE it is a pre-order, or if 'backordered' meant that the pre-orders were out of stock. She understood and went to her higher ups for a clarification.

She came back and told me that MF had indeed sold out of their first order.

Whether they will be able to order more before Arturia burns through their first run is a different matter. If they can't, there will be more delays based on how long it takes Arturia to complete a second run.

Given the absurd level of interest this synth has generated, I would be very shocked if they didn't have a 2nd run already in the works, so no matter what I don't anticipate very long delays.

I have sent an email to Arturia for some clarification on the release date, and will post here if they give me any good info.


Interesting. Can anyone confirm on their order status page that they have something listed other than "backorder"? Anyone still showing Feb ship dates?

I still think the first batch is arriving in April, not February- just based on the reports from NAMM as well as official statements from Arturia and Yves.
bsmith
On the bright side, a box won't be showing up like right on valentine's day. This actually occurred to me as I was ordering it and saw the mid-february eta.
angry (hides) BOOM! Frying Pan Bash! fap fap fap...
Audio Resistance
bsmith wrote:
On the bright side, a box won't be showing up like right on valentine's day. This actually occurred to me as I was ordering it and saw the mid-february eta.
angry (hides) BOOM! Frying Pan Bash! fap fap fap...


Psshaw, ship it to your work and save the headach. lol
dopefiend
zedius wrote:
Hey, quick question: Part of my desire to buy this is that it seems like it will be immediately useful as a midi/cv interface cv keyboard for a modular system in the future.

I've heard a number of people on forums complaining about the one oscillator. For the folks who want another oscillator, could they not just have any oscillator they want plugged into the audio input on this and controlled by the keyboard using the cv output?



This oscillator has enough features to make it pretty self-sufficient. It has a subosc, it has that "metal" function and that chorus-like effect. I was initially put off by the one-vco deal too, but come to think of it, it's all it takes to put out and incredibly powerful sound!
ryandfl
I just listened to the demos on their site. Eh...I'm not too impressed.
Jason Brock
bsmith wrote:

angry (hides) BOOM! Frying Pan Bash! fap fap fap...


Well said. hihi

ryandfl wrote:
I just listened to the demos on their site. Eh...I'm not too impressed.


The filter is going to be the most distinguishing aspect of this little guy.
Skip down to section 8. The Steiner-Parker design sound particularly unique in Band Pass and High Pass modes.
http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/minibrute/details.html
zedius
I got my response back from Arturia.

They didn't answer my questions about production runs, but they did clarify that the first units will be available end of March/early April.

So we will be sitting on our hands for a while.

Really, it's fine. I can make it. I think eek!

Edit: Just noticed that's from the Export Manager too, so I'm sure he's the guy who'd know.
ryandfl
[quote="]

ryandfl wrote:
I just listened to the demos on their site. Eh...I'm not too impressed.


The filter is going to be the most distinguishing aspect of this little guy.
Skip down to section 8. The Steiner-Parker design sound particularly unique in Band Pass and High Pass modes.
http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/minibrute/details.html[/q uote]

Ah I didn't realize there was a bunch on audio examples there too. The bandpass demo sounds really nice, as does the 'metalizer'. Most of the audio I've heard sounds a little 'shrill' to maybe exaggerate it a little. Too much high end. Maybe that's just how they are demoing it, targeting Slyenth users?
SSquirrel
First off hi! The MB discussion made me sign up smile

ryandfl wrote:
Ah I didn't realize there was a bunch on audio examples there too. The bandpass demo sounds really nice, as does the 'metalizer'. Most of the audio I've heard sounds a little 'shrill' to maybe exaggerate it a little. Too much high end. Maybe that's just how they are demoing it, targeting Slyenth users?


Of course, most of the cameras that have been used for video demos from NAMM don't do well capturing the bass sound, which doesn't help the shrill impressions. The audio on their page sounds pretty great.

"The Brute Factorâ„¢ was inspired by a patch made on a famous vintage synthesizer connecting the headphone output to the external audio input."

I read that blurb from their site while I was at work the other day and as soon as I got home, I grabbed my iPad and tried that out on the MS-20. I knew that was the synth they were talking about smile I'm putting together a small recording setupw /tax money and I was trying to decide on a controller. I had actually been leaning toward the Arturia 49 key Laboratory, but I figure for just a bit more, I can get a full synth that works as a controller too, which made sense to me. I have a Juno 106 and a Roland JX-8P (w/PG800), but they're both much bigger and desk space is limited. I'd love a Minitaur too, but I can start small this year and build in more later smile


zedius wrote:
They didn't answer my questions about production runs, but they did clarify that the first units will be available end of March/early April.


That's a good thing. Musiciansfriend still says 4/30 for their anticipated ship date. I should have my return by Feb 1st and I was all ready to order and pray for one of the mid-Feb ship dates.
de_raaf
everybody knows the brute factor is in inspired by that other mini, akak mini moog ha :-)
astroschnautzer
Europe seems to have a price now: $695 @ DV247.com .... which is 531€ , European company, why is this so much cheaper in the U.S?
de_raaf
vat maybe
Rigo
It's listed at 499€ at musicstore.de. Didn't see it listed at Thomann yet.
mckenic
Ouch!

Gonna have to wait until our US friends throw 'em on the B/S/T...

Its the same with the OP-1 in fairness!
REwire
Geez, I don't know if the audio was too high and clipping into the recording but if it really sounds like this.... woah

flashheart
de_raaf wrote:
astroschnautzer wrote:
Europe seems to have a price now: $695 @ DV247.com .... which is 531€ , European company, why is this so much cheaper in the U.S?

vat maybe

$499 + VAT = $598. Thanks again DV seriously, i just don't get it. VAT maybe, plus a fair amount of screw the customer.
As for those of you who bought it with the discount coupons for $425, you lucky, lucky barstads... SlayerBadger!
gwaidan
zedius wrote:
I got my response back from Arturia.

They didn't answer my questions about production runs, but they did clarify that the first units will be available end of March/early April.

So we will be sitting on our hands for a while.

Really, it's fine. I can make it. I think eek!


I feel your pain, brother! (cues Velvet Underground's "Waiting for the Man" on the iPod... hihi )
jeannot
PRE-ORDERED THIS BITCH


edit: no CV transpose
blz
pre ordered

i went to namm and this thing just blew me away with awesome cant wait to get some quality time where i don't hear a loud con floor blaring at me while i try and listen to the analog goodness
zedius
jeannot wrote:
PRE-ORDERED THIS BITCH


Quote:
The only reason anyone is comparing them is because the MiniBrute looks similar (small keyboard, sliders).


Are people forgetting that the comparison is mostly being made because this is a monosynth with arpeggiator to CV.

THAT is what made the SH-101 so coveted.


I believe the SH-101 has a sequencer, right? But given that the Arp on this is digital, I imagine that there could be the possibitity of programming sequences on your laptop using the software. I can hope! Probably easier than entering breaks in your sequences via low velocity keyboard notes and adjusting your octave mid sequence.
greenscreens
REwire wrote:
Geez, I don't know if the audio was too high and clipping into the recording but if it really sounds like this.... woah



definitely distorting
jeannot
@zedius: I thought the SH would give a corresponding CV when transposing the sequence with key presses, which kind of fakes an arp. Upon further investigation, I guess not:)
jeannot
Dont forget:
Quote:
From Matrixsynth: Note that the Arpeggiator can also be used as a basic sequencer. In the Hold mode, you press and hold the first key of the sequence, then you just enter the other notes by pressing the corresponding keys while still holding the first note of the sequence, during this process you can change the octave range of the keyboard between entering the notes therefore you are not limited to two octaves for the sequence. You can sequence a maximum of 12 notes. Unfortunatly once playing the sequence it cannot be transposed by the keyboard because pressing a new key resets the sequence."
computer controlled
jeannot wrote:
PRE-ORDERED THIS BITCH


Quote:
The only reason anyone is comparing them is because the MiniBrute looks similar (small keyboard, sliders).


Are people forgetting that the comparison is mostly being made because this is a monosynth with arpeggiator to CV.

THAT is what made the SH-101 so coveted.


While the Arp works over CV, it doesn't re-trigger out of the Gate out. The Sequencer is what made the 101 so popular.
jeannot
^Ahhhh, gotcha. I stand corrected, thanks for clarifying.
zahush76
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
RubberCityNoise wrote:
desktop synths like the Minitaur, Dark Energy, and Pulse 2...


they are fuckin' pokemon: collect 'em all...


I'm in a dillema here. Lots of desktop monos out there. Lots of new ones.
Now, i pre-ordered the GRP A4 (4400 euros) out of the assumption it is better to have one big, massive, coherent descrete analog monosynth that sounds fantastic and is extremely versatile - instead of getting 5 small ones.

But now and then i have my thoughts about getting the minibrute - together with a sem pro, a macbeth vortex and a dsi tempest - for the same amount of money.
This, maybe, is partially because i have to wait for ages until the GRP is ready to be shipped. Some people here shared their "pain" for waiting untill april.
I have to wait until July.
So i wonder which is the smarter way to go - and is it because i'm losing my patiance, or simply becuase it might be a better idea to buy 4-5 "smaller" things instead of a gigantic one.
mckenic
greenscreens wrote:
REwire wrote:
Geez, I don't know if the audio was too high and clipping into the recording but if it really sounds like this.... woah



definitely distorting


I dont want to sound unkind but - I saw another video with the same logo, an interview with John Bowen. The chap seemed a little unsure of himself and a little young. Very interested in wobble and filter sweep tho.
Annwn
Another good sound sample to show the character of the little chap. It even plays on loop!

http://www.amazona.de/index.php?page=26&file=2&article_id=3824&page_nu m=2
Madrayken
zahush76 wrote:
So i wonder which is the smarter way to go - and is it because i'm losing my patiance, or simply becuase it might be a better idea to buy 4-5 "smaller" things instead of a gigantic one.


Hmm... why wouldn't you just build a potentially cheaper, smaller modular?
zahush76
Madrayken wrote:
zahush76 wrote:
So i wonder which is the smarter way to go - and is it because i'm losing my patiance, or simply becuase it might be a better idea to buy 4-5 "smaller" things instead of a gigantic one.


Hmm... why wouldn't you just build a potentially cheaper, smaller modular?


Two reasons:

1) First of all, by suggesting what you did - you answeed the question. One complex synth - instead of 4 smaller\simpler ones.

2) I could get a cheaper smaller modular - but than it couldn't do all the stuff the GRP A4 does. I actually checked this out and tried different modular configurations (excluding doepfer, because i don't like its basic tone).
I couldn't put together (hypothetically, of course) a modular system that can do what the GRP A4 - for a smaller price. The GRP is build in such a way that modulation-wise, it can do about 90% of what modular can do. It has a system of multi-selection knobs that enables you to modulate anything from anything on the synth (pretty much) - only without the need to use patching, and get lost in spaghetti land.
It has a dual multimode filter, loopable multi-stage envelopes, 3 vco's + 2 sub osc (all with extensive modulation options), ringmod, s & h and so on.
Actually - i challenge anyone who can put together a modular system that does all that for less money.

These are the specs. Good luck:
Grp A4 in details
•Voltage Controlled Oscillator 1, 2, 3
◦Wide audio range (64’-2’) w. Tune & Fine; six analog waveforms (sine, triangle, triangle & saw, saw, saw & variable pulse summed, variable pulse); manual pw & pwm (from VCLFO1, EG1, S&H, Aft); FM 1 Amt (lin/exp –from VCLFO1, LFO2, VCO1, 2, 3, Noise, S&H, EG1, EG2, Aft, ModW, KeyVel, EnvFoll) w. phase rev; FM 2 Amt (only exp – from VCLFO1, Env Foll); sub oscillator (on VCO 1, 2) -1/-2 oct; hard sync (VCO 1 master); kybd on/off (w. user’s selectable octave offset from MIDI Interface).
•Ring Modulator
◦Ring Mod Sources: VCO 2 & VCO 3/Ext Input (user’s selectable).
•Noise Generator
◦White & Pink Noise selectable.
•External Input
◦Input gain from line to mic level; freely adjustable Gate Threshold (Gate to EG 1-2); enclosed envelope follower (goes into mod buss).
•Audio Mixer
◦Separate level controls for VCO 1, 2, 3, Sub 1, 2, Ext Input, Ring Mod, Noise.
•Filter Section
◦Dual analog filter section: 24 db/Oct Low Pass Transistor Ladder Filter w. pole selection & 12 dB/Oct State Variable Low, Band, High, Notch Filter.
◦Each filter has a separate Distortion/Level control.
◦Filter section can be configured in LP 24 Only, SV 12Only, Serial (LP into SV), Parallel, Direct Out (LP 24 goes on Left Audio Out, SV 12 goes on Right Audio Out).
◦Low Pass Filter:
■Slope selection (6, 12, 18, 24 dB); Cutoff Frequency; Resonance; Overload LED; FM1 Amt (from VCLFO1, LFO2, VCO 1, 2, 3 Env Foll, Noise, S&H, EG2, Aft, ModW, KeyVel) w, phase rev.; FM 2 Amt (from VCLFO 1); FM 3 Amt (from Step Sequencer, Kybd Track 0-120%; Key Vel On/Off.
◦State Variable Filter:
■Mode (12dB HP, 6 dB BP, 12 dB LP, 6 dB Notch); Cutoff Frequency; Resonance; Overload LED; FM1 Amt (from VCLFO1, LFO2, VCO 1, 2, 3 Env Foll, Noise, S&H, EG2, Aft, ModW, KeyVel) w, phase rev.; FM 2 Amt (from VCLFO 1); FM 3 Amt (from Step Sequencer, Kybd Track 0-120%; Key Vel On/Off.
•Voltage Controlled Amplifier
◦Dedicaded Envelope Generator (see below); Control Selection (dedicated EG2, ON-hold, External CV); VCLFO1 Amt.
•AutoPan
•AutoPan Off/Internal Clock/VCLFO1; Pan Frequency Control; LED (red = internal clock; blue = VCLFO1).
•Stereo Main
◦Master Volume.
•Envelope Generator 1
◦Multi Stage Loopable Env (Attack, Hold, Decay, Sustain Lev, Sustain Time-Only in Loop On, Release); Gate Source Selection (Keyboard, S&H, ExtIn/ Step Seq); independent EG Amt for 24 dB LP Filter and 12 dB State Variable Filter, both w. user’s selectable EG polarity.
◦EG time goes from 1msec to 60 sec.
◦LED: red = EG under Gate sources; blue = EG under Step Sequencer control;
◦Loop Envelope: loop from Attack to Release, w. Sustain Time selectable.
◦Loop Mode Switch:
■Loop Off: EG as standard AHDSR, no Sustain Time.
■Gate: EG loops from A to S (w. Sustain Time max 60”) as long as Gate is On.
■Auto: EG full loop, from A to R; independent from Gate.
•Envelope Generator 2
◦Same as EG 1, without Hold segment.
•Voltage Controlled Low Frequency 1
◦Frequency (from very low to 2500 Hz); Waveform (sine, ramp, triangle, saw, square w. variable pulse); FM Amt (exp, w. phase normal/rev); FM Sources (Key, EG1, EG2, LFO2, Seq A, B, A+B, S&H, Aft, ModW, EnvFoll); Sync (Off, Gate, Seq, MIDI – dividing factor selectable from internal MIDI Interface); Shaping LFO out (from: Off, EG1, EG2, Lfo2, SeqA, B, A+B, S&H, Aft, ModW, EnvFoll).
◦LFO act as modulation buss for auxiliary sources: EG1, EG2, S&H, Noise, VCO2, EnvFoll. The aux source can be amplitude modulated with the Shaping Select.
•Voltage Controlled Low Frequency 2
◦Frequency; Freq Range (Low-Mid-High); Waveform (Triangle, Square); Shaping Select (Off, Aft, ModW).
◦Independent Send Modulations for: VCO 1, 2, 3 freq; PWM 1, 2, 3; VCF 24/12 Cutoff; VCA Level.
•Sample & Hold
◦Frequency; Frequency Source (Int, VCLFO1); LED (red = Internal, blue = VCLFO1); S&H Source (Pink Noise, White Noise, VCLFO 1, LFO 2, VCO 1, 2, 3); Glide.
◦The S&H Clock can be routed to EG firing; there are three options: Off – no routing; Gate – the S&H clock is ANDed with keyb/ext/manual Gate; Auto – EGs always fired from S&H.
•Tuning/MIDI
◦Master Tune; Portamento Time; Bend Amount; VCO 1 Portamento On/Off, VCO 1, Bend On/Off; Hold On/Off; A440 On/Off; Retrig On/Off; Manual Gate.
◦MIDI Interface: MIDI Channel Select; Keyboard Off Octave Offset; External CV In Octave Offset; MIDI Clock Divider on LFO Reset.
◦A4 receives: MIDI Note On/Off, Bend, Modulation, Aftertouch, Key Velocity, Expression Pedal, Damper.
•Step Sequencer
◦User’s configurable Mode Select 8x2 or 16x1.
◦Clock Source: Int, VCLFO1, Ext, MIDI.
◦Clock Divider on all Clock Sources; dividing factor MIDI: 1/1, ¼, 1/4t, 1/8, 1/8t, 1/16; dividing factor TTL: 1/1, /2, /4, /16, /32.
◦Sequencer Mode: FW, BW, FW/BW, PNDL, ALT, RND, TRG.
◦CV Seq Clock: A, Off, B on internal Clock.
◦VCO Seq Enable: VCO 1, 2, 3, Off/A/B/A+B
◦VCF Seq Enable: 24dB Off/A/B/A+B; 12dB Off/A/B/A+B.
◦Step Repeat: Off, x2, x3, x4.
◦Permutations: n,n+1; n, n+1, n; n, n, n+1, n.
◦Loop On/Off.
◦Hold On/Off.
◦Manual Controls: Reset/Step Advance, Run/Stop, Continue
◦Pulse Width (legato/staccato) on Internal & MIDI Clock.
◦Row A & B Parameters: Glide Amt; Range (x2, x4, x8); Quantizer On/Off.
◦Step Parameters: LED; Step Value; Gate On/Off; Step Mode (End, Skip, Normal).
•Connections
◦Audio: Mono Out; Phones Out; Left/24dB Out; Right/12 dB Out; Audio External In.
◦Filter: CV In 24 dB; CV In 12 dB.
◦Amplifer: CV In VCA.
◦Synth Control: CV In; Gate In.
◦External Modulation Buss: Ext 1/AftT; Ext 2/ModW.
◦Sequencer Connections: Row A/B/A+B CV Out; Row A/B/A+B Gate Out; Run/Stop In; Continue In; Loop On/Off In; Clock Input; Clock Output; CV In Clock Modulation.v
Madrayken
Holy crap - that's a lot of bang. A quick examination of the front-panel doesn't really do it justice. Wow. The specs of the Midi-in alone are impressive.
Morley
Quote:
Actually - i challenge anyone who can put together a modular system that does all that for less money


Fenix II does a lot. More, I don't know but it's got so much going on (loads of which isn't mentioned below in their specs!)
€3300
3 VCO’s, 3 different VCO's ( Inputs CV, FM, PWM, Sync e.o, Output square, triagle, sawtooth and some has puls, sub, sine e.o) )
4 different VCF´s ( SVF, 24dB Lp, BPF, 12dB Lp). ( Input CV modulation, SVF has Q-CV control
3 EGR and 4 VCA’s and 5 LFO’s. (Many modules are voltage controlled)
7 Mixers ( 3 audio mixers and 4 DC-Audio mixers).
1 Phaser and 1 Delay (BDD). ( off course voltage controlled)
1 8 step analog sequencer with own clock.
1 Waveshapers, 1 wavemultiplier and 1 full wave rectifier. ( voltage controlled, except for the rectifier )
1 CPR, 1 S&H, 1 Gate delay, 1 Ringmodulator, 1 Slew limiter, 1 fixed +/- 5volt output.
1 Analog noise and 1 Digital noise. ( Digital noise voltage controlled
1 6 Banana to 3,5 mm minijack connectors.
1 Input module with trigger, gate and envelop out.
1 Stereo output module with dual panning and dual VCA. ( off course voltage controlled)
zahush76
The fenix II does indeed more (except perhaps the step seq part. If you want the fenix III seq than it's more than 2000€ to add). And don't forget the price you are talking about is before VAT. The GRP'S price before VAT is 3667€

But let's not forget the main problem: after they did a run of 75 fenix II - there just aren't any even if i wanted to buy one right now. They are not planning on making a second run in the near future either. So there you have it.
Morley
I reckon a few people will drop off the fenix list at some point, but yes, hard to get. Then again, so is the A4.
The A3 might be a nice thing and more affordable.
Kent
Gents, can one of you (I'll suggest zahush76) simply start a new thread so that this one can stay on topic and free of off-topic pasting of specs from a different product.?

Thanks,

Kent

P.S. Just copy/paste your text to a new thread and then I'll nuke the stuff that's in this thread.
abstraktor
zahush76 wrote:
The fenix II does indeed more (except perhaps the step seq part. If you want the fenix III seq than it's more than 2000€ to add). And don't forget the price you are talking about is before VAT. The GRP'S price before VAT is 3667€

But let's not forget the main problem: after they did a run of 75 fenix II - there just aren't any even if i wanted to buy one right now. They are not planning on making a second run in the near future either. So there you have it.


If you want the GRP synth go and order it mate - You seem to feel the need to boast about it's feature set in a thread about the Arturia MB, which is a completely different instrument in a completely different price range!
Maybe start a thread about the GRP A?
seriously, i just don't get it
zedius
Annwn wrote:
Another good sound sample to show the character of the little chap. It even plays on loop!

http://www.amazona.de/index.php?page=26&file=2&article_id=3824&page_nu m=2


Sounds fantastic! Better than an overdriven camcorder mic on a noisy trade show floor.
zahush76
abstraktor wrote:
zahush76 wrote:
The fenix II does indeed more (except perhaps the step seq part. If you want the fenix III seq than it's more than 2000€ to add). And don't forget the price you are talking about is before VAT. The GRP'S price before VAT is 3667€

But let's not forget the main problem: after they did a run of 75 fenix II - there just aren't any even if i wanted to buy one right now. They are not planning on making a second run in the near future either. So there you have it.


If you want the GRP synth go and order it mate - You seem to feel the need to boast about it's feature set in a thread about the Arturia MB, which is a completely different instrument in a completely different price range!
Maybe start a thread about the GRP A?
seriously, i just don't get it


Yeah i get it. One remark is more than enough.
Sorry for the little hijacking.
Just chill out.
Btw - if you actually read what i wrote than you should have come across the part where i wrote i pre-ordered one (GRP, that is...)
lukas412
Now Musicians Friend is just fucking with us. My estimated ship date went from 2/20 to 4/30 and now back to 2/20!
jessem
lukas412 wrote:
Now Musicians Friend is just fucking with us. My estimated ship date went from 2/20 to 4/30 and now back to 2/20!

It says April on Arturia's site. Honestly if it gets to me by May I'll be happy. I'm not going to worry about it until then.

http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/minibrute/intro.html
SSquirrel
I pre-ordered the MB from Novamusik for $457 today. No shipping, and no tax since I'm in Kentucky instead of Wisconsin. If I had $1050 to spend I woudl have pre-ordered the Minitaur too. Altho their current special for MB is $457 and MT is $569, so that is actually $1026, not the advertised $1050 heh. That is the info they let you know if you email them about the advertised special offer.

They are under the impression they will have units in about 2 weeks, but there are about 25 or 30 people ahead of me, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed. If I don't get it till April, so be it, but it would be very cool if it's sooner smile
jbartee
lukas412 wrote:
Now Musicians Friend is just fucking with us. My estimated ship date went from 2/20 to 4/30 and now back to 2/20!


Just noticed this as well. Strange.
jonah
If this is a hit I wonder if Behringer will get into analog synths?
Vacancy Of Disco
jonah wrote:
If this is a hit I wonder if Behringer will get into analog synths?

eek! 3 vco with lfo, lowpass filter and high noise floor all for
burnn_out!
man I have like zero need for this but damned if I don't want a minibrute like a motherfucker. The sounds, features, and price are super nice. Perfect kb for live use/ abuse It's motherfucking bacon yo It's motherfucking bacon yo It's motherfucking bacon yo It's motherfucking bacon yo
werock
SSquirrel wrote:
I pre-ordered the MB from Novamusik for $457 today. No shipping, and no tax since I'm in Kentucky instead of Wisconsin. If I had $1050 to spend I woudl have pre-ordered the Minitaur too. Altho their current special for MB is $457 and MT is $569, so that is actually $1026, not the advertised $1050 heh. That is the info they let you know if you email them about the advertised special offer.



That's a good price - DV in the UK has it listed for £449 ($704). As per usual, we get to pay way more. very frustrating
SourceDist
Hi All - Official UK RRP has finally been announced. Info is here: http://www.sourcedistribution.co.uk/news/article.php?aid=645
...but MiniBrute's full UK RRP will be £429 inc VAT (For reference, the Euro RRP is €499). ETA is Late April.

Should have a prototype this week in the office, so should be some modular/CV test type vids coming soon from us.

Cheeeeers!
mckenic
SourceDist wrote:
Hi All - Official UK RRP has finally been announced. Info is here: http://www.sourcedistribution.co.uk/news/article.php?aid=645
...but MiniBrute's full UK RRP will be £429 inc VAT (For reference, the Euro RRP is €499). ETA is Late April.

Should have a prototype this week in the office, so should be some modular/CV test type vids coming soon from us.

Cheeeeers!


Thanks for the info mate! Looking forward to the vids!

so it comes to $655 (+shipping) to buy this in Europe... Phew!
werock
Lets hope the 'street' price is a bit lower - although if it's in demand it will probably hold its RRP.
matttech
not sure i'd trust any Arturia stuff after the V-Collection nonsense i went through. all sorts of bugs, and possibly the worst technical support ever

not for me
theabsent
mckenic wrote:
so it comes to $655 (+shipping) to buy this in Europe... Phew!


Let's see what the price will be @ Thomann etc.
mckenic
theabsent wrote:
mckenic wrote:
so it comes to $655 (+shipping) to buy this in Europe... Phew!


Let's see what the price will be @ Thomann etc.


Yeah, Thomann are usually very good! My SH101 cost me €400 hihi
Although I still need to send it to Paul to get her up to 100%
SourceDist
matttech wrote:
not sure i'd trust any Arturia stuff after the V-Collection nonsense i went through. all sorts of bugs, and possibly the worst technical support ever

not for me


Sorry to hear that Matt - we offer tech support for Arturia in the UK as we're the distributor here. Not sure how recent this enquiry was, but you can feel free to give us a call/email if anything is still unresolved. Ultimately it will still require Arturia to assist if it's an admin issue, but if we can help you get a quicker resolution, we will.
acustic
The price i Danish Kroner is 3200. That equals 430 Euro.....
Not that bad.
aumgn
sucha cheesy name......
jenamu6
aumgn wrote:
sucha cheesy name......


Like a sex toy hihi
ThinLazy
I just pre-ordered a minibrute from musicians friend too. I used the code
GROUNDHOG to get %15 off + free shipping and then another %15
off using a one time code on the back of an MF catalog I got in the mail.
In the end the total cost was $360.

On the receipt they say to expect delivery on 2/20/2012, we'll see.
Spanningtree
I just canceled my Novamusic order and moved over to MF. I got it down to $462 including shipping and tax. Not bad! Thanks for the coupon code!
SSquirrel
ThinLazy wrote:
I just pre-ordered a minibrute from musicians friend too. I used the code
GROUNDHOG to get %15 off + free shipping and then another %15
off using a one time code on the back of an MF catalog I got in the mail.
In the end the total cost was $360.

On the receipt they say to expect delivery on 2/20/2012, we'll see.


What's the code from the MF catalog? I haven't gotten one of theirs in the mail in awhile, just from Guitar Center.
splitpoint
ThinLazy wrote:
I just pre-ordered a minibrute from musicians friend too. I used the code
GROUNDHOG to get %15 off + free shipping and then another %15
off using a one time code on the back of an MF catalog I got in the mail.
In the end the total cost was $360.

On the receipt they say to expect delivery on 2/20/2012, we'll see.


What's the secret to enter multiple coupon codes?
ThinLazy
SSquirrel, the code I got off the catalog was

GJ320290

these usually only work once, but let know if
it works for you.

"What's the secret to enter multiple coupon codes?"

I just entered the GROUNDHOG code in the coupon box area
first and the price was updated and then I entered in the catalog
code (GJ320290) in the same coupon box area and when it updated the
second time both discounts had been applied. Double discounts on the
musician's friend website don't always work but sometimes they do.
splitpoint
Cool, thanks.
worstofthewurst
edit: my catalog coupon works, but I can't get the double code in :(
ThinLazy
worstofthewurst wrote:
Bummer. I have a coupon code on a catalog for 15% off any single item $199+, and it says that none of the items in my cart are eligible.


That's the same code I used that worked, that's weird. Did you try
applying the the GROUNDHOG code first and then the catalog code?
worstofthewurst
I did, yeah. It's still just letting me do one at a time. If I remove one coupon, the other is there, but it won't let me do two at a time. As much as I want the minibrute, I can't really justify buying it!

Musiciansfriend.com says of the groundhog code: "Not valid with other offers or coupons, gift certificates, warranties or past purchases." So I"m impressed that you got under the radar!
ThinLazy
I guess mine must have been a fluke, or maybe they just changed
it recently. You could also try clearing your browser's cache and cookies
and see if that makes a difference. Just a guess.
gwaidan
MF have a 15 percent off groundhog day sale today-go for it peeps! hyper
Chuck E. Jesus
gwaidan wrote:
MF have a 15 percent off groundhog day sale today-go for it peeps! hyper


you just saved me 40 dollars, thanks Guinness ftw!
Jaspo
My ship date has changed to 2/20/2012 from 4/30/2012.

Could this be true? Or are they just toying with me ... making me dance like a puppet?
Chuck E. Jesus
i called Musician's Friend...the person i spoke to said they have 50 scheduled to arrive 2/9, and another 30 on 2/13, after that no more until April...he also said there were about 75 orders placed...i ordered this morn so it's a coin flip if i get one in the second batch or not, but hopefully some of you won't have to wait too long...
mhtones
Ordered mine from Musician's Friend! $424.15. But, I have to pay sales tax cause I live in California. Sucks. angry

But, then again I'm looking outside my office window and it's sunny, blue skies and a perfect 67F. So, I guess I pay for the weather... 8_)

For me also, this is the first time I'm buying something without trying it out in person first. I figure, at that price and with all those features, it is a no brainer. And, if Josh from Malekko gave it his thumbs up , then I'm all over this.

Small Type: Neither Josh nor Malekko officially endorse this product in any way...at least to my knowledge hihi

The guy from MF said that the estimated shipping date will change when the number of orders exceed their expected initial shipment. He also told me I could cancel my order if it kept getting pushed out. Also, he confirmed that the groundhog day sale only applies to items in stock. Hence, he manually gave me a price equivalent to the 15% off. nanners and applause for MF not becoming a slave to their ordering system. I hate it when retailers say....dude, the system won't let me do it, so you're out of luck.
Sir Ruff
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
i called Musician's Friend...the person i spoke to said they have 50 scheduled to arrive 2/9, and another 30 on 2/13, after that no more until April...he also said there were about 75 orders placed...i ordered this morn so it's a coin flip if i get one in the second batch or not, but hopefully some of you won't have to wait too long...


Thanks for the update - I ordered that friday after the pre-order was announced, and they told me then that I was probably not in the initial 50, but it sounds like anyone who ordered around then will at least be within that 2nd order of 30.
jessem
Sir Ruff wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
i called Musician's Friend...the person i spoke to said they have 50 scheduled to arrive 2/9, and another 30 on 2/13, after that no more until April...he also said there were about 75 orders placed...i ordered this morn so it's a coin flip if i get one in the second batch or not, but hopefully some of you won't have to wait too long...


Thanks for the update - I ordered that friday after the pre-order was announced, and they told me then that I was probably not in the initial 50, but it sounds like anyone who ordered around then will at least be within that 2nd order of 30.

what date was that? I ordered on the 22nd
jbartee
jessem wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
i called Musician's Friend...the person i spoke to said they have 50 scheduled to arrive 2/9, and another 30 on 2/13, after that no more until April...he also said there were about 75 orders placed...i ordered this morn so it's a coin flip if i get one in the second batch or not, but hopefully some of you won't have to wait too long...


Thanks for the update - I ordered that friday after the pre-order was announced, and they told me then that I was probably not in the initial 50, but it sounds like anyone who ordered around then will at least be within that 2nd order of 30.

what date was that? I ordered on the 22nd


I think it was the 20th.
Sir Ruff
jessem wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
i called Musician's Friend...the person i spoke to said they have 50 scheduled to arrive 2/9, and another 30 on 2/13, after that no more until April...he also said there were about 75 orders placed...i ordered this morn so it's a coin flip if i get one in the second batch or not, but hopefully some of you won't have to wait too long...


Thanks for the update - I ordered that friday after the pre-order was announced, and they told me then that I was probably not in the initial 50, but it sounds like anyone who ordered around then will at least be within that 2nd order of 30.

what date was that? I ordered on the 22nd


the 21st. He couldn't give me specifics on where I stood, but it definitely sounded like I wouldn't be in the first lot. So maybe the second!
James Mandible
Sweetwater told me when I preordered from them that I was supposed to get mine on the 29th of Feb. If the situation is in fact having to do with getting small batches at first, then that would make sense. They haven't told me since then to expect anything otherwise, so I guess that's still the deal.
emergencyofstate
e-mailed my sales contact for my sweetwater order. He confirmed I was early on the pre-order list (#8 of close to a hundred) and Arturia is estimating first shipments to Sweetwater by April 20. But shipments could arrive earlier confused
Jaspo
They were toying with me. It is now back to 4/30/2012

I ordered on 1/22 and this is the 3rd time it changed.
z3r01
Hmmm...I made my purchase on the 20th of January from MF, and after a couple of changes in the estimated shipping date, it was set at 4th February for awhile. I just checked my order status, and apparently, my estimated shipping date has changed once again, to 30th April.

I am just wondering, does anyone else have a similar experience? hmmm.....
jabberwalky
Ordered 22nd. Back to 4/30 again. Similar experience.
James Mandible
emergencyofstate wrote:
e-mailed my sales contact for my sweetwater order. He confirmed I was early on the pre-order list (#8 of close to a hundred) and Arturia is estimating first shipments to Sweetwater by April 20. But shipments could arrive earlier confused


Guess I should do the same. Wonder if that's what my missed call from them was about, I recognized the number but they didn't leave a message and I never got around to calling back. Looks like maybe I should!
drewtoothpaste
I wish Sweetwater would call me! They never ever call me over and over for no reason for eternity after I order one single thing from their website.
ndkent
Sweetwater calls me whenever I don't order. (well I didn't order so I expect to hear from them, not that I won't eventually get one)

Anyway my French is crappy but it just came to me that the name must be some sort of almost but not quite pun on "Mini Bruit", right?
bsmith
gc told me 4/23
r05c03
So, I was wondering. Do you think that Arturia will make an app/pluggin that will essentially add an an extra oscillator to the minibrute? I mean the mB does transmit midi note, pitch wheel, mod wheel, velocity and after touch right? This would greatly enhance the sound pallette and could be fed into the 'audio in' on the hardware version....get where I am going with this? Think it could happen?
SSquirrel
r05c03 wrote:
So, I was wondering. Do you think that Arturia will make an app/pluggin that will essentially add an an extra oscillator to the minibrute? I mean the mB does transmit midi note, pitch wheel, mod wheel, velocity and after touch right? This would greatly enhance the sound pallette and could be fed into the 'audio in' on the hardware version....get where I am going with this? Think it could happen?


Moogerfooger Freqbox is on my list for just that purpose. Altho I also like the odd distorted sound it can give a guitar. They show that off pretty well in the Moog demo video for it
r05c03
Yeah, I actually have a Freqbox and I am looking forward to dinking around with that system. Actually, I have the MP-201 foot controller, and I believe that I can send note data out of the mB and into the MP-201 which will output CV and I can control the pitch of the Freqbox, detuning it intervals and the like...
jbartee
ThinLazy
r05c03 wrote:
Yeah, I actually have a Freqbox and I am looking forward to dinking around with that system. Actually, I have the MP-201 foot controller, and I believe that I can send note data out of the mB and into the MP-201 which will output CV and I can control the pitch of the Freqbox, detuning it intervals and the like...


The mB outputs CV directly, so you don't need the MP-201.
Just plug the CV out of mB into the freqbox and then run
the output of the freqbox into the audio in on the mB to
run it through the mB filter with the mB oscillator.
bsmith
fantastic sounds, i can't wait!
mckenic
The second half of that last video is stunningly beautiful!

thumbs up
pulse_divider
ThinLazy wrote:
r05c03 wrote:
Yeah, I actually have a Freqbox and I am looking forward to dinking around with that system. Actually, I have the MP-201 foot controller, and I believe that I can send note data out of the mB and into the MP-201 which will output CV and I can control the pitch of the Freqbox, detuning it intervals and the like...


The mB outputs CV directly, so you don't need the MP-201.
Just plug the CV out of mB into the freqbox and then run
the output of the freqbox into the audio in on the mB to
run it through the mB filter with the mB oscillator.


Since the MB outputs CV gate, you wouldn't even need a FreqBox, any old oscillator will do... just loop the osc out back into the audio
input on the MB.
I sure hope that the aftertouch affects the CV out as well, that would be amazing!
r05c03
ThinLazy wrote:
r05c03 wrote:
Yeah, I actually have a Freqbox and I am looking forward to dinking around with that system. Actually, I have the MP-201 foot controller, and I believe that I can send note data out of the mB and into the MP-201 which will output CV and I can control the pitch of the Freqbox, detuning it intervals and the like...


The mB outputs CV directly, so you don't need the MP-201.
Just plug the CV out of mB into the freqbox and then run
the output of the freqbox into the audio in on the mB to
run it through the mB filter with the mB oscillator.


Right, but if I wanted to detune the 2nd oscillator, perhaps up to a 5th, then I would needs something like MP-201 for the freqbox. Right?
Rod Serling Fan Club
An app to add an oscillator to the minibrute?

Since you can control anything that accepts midi or cv you can use whatever you like. You could use any softsynth or hardware or modular oscillator you like as a second oscillator. Most synths/oscillators allow for detuning. I just picked a desktop evolver because I think it will be a good companion for the minibrute.
pulse_divider
r05c03 wrote:
ThinLazy wrote:
r05c03 wrote:
Yeah, I actually have a Freqbox and I am looking forward to dinking around with that system. Actually, I have the MP-201 foot controller, and I believe that I can send note data out of the mB and into the MP-201 which will output CV and I can control the pitch of the Freqbox, detuning it intervals and the like...


The mB outputs CV directly, so you don't need the MP-201.
Just plug the CV out of mB into the freqbox and then run
the output of the freqbox into the audio in on the mB to
run it through the mB filter with the mB oscillator.


Right, but if I wanted to detune the 2nd oscillator, perhaps up to a 5th, then I would needs something like MP-201 for the freqbox. Right?


Nope, you'd just need to:
1) plug 1V/oct CV out of MB to osc 1V/oct in
2) turn tuning knob on osc to interval you want
that's it! Perfect excuse to start a modular synth w00t
Chuck E. Jesus
mckenic wrote:
The second half of that last video is stunningly beautiful!

thumbs up


must be the shirts...
r05c03
Ha...I kicked the modular habit...don't want to fall off the wagon again.. But I probably will.


pulse_divider wrote:
r05c03 wrote:
ThinLazy wrote:
r05c03 wrote:
Yeah, I actually have a Freqbox and I am looking forward to dinking around with that system. Actually, I have the MP-201 foot controller, and I believe that I can send note data out of the mB and into the MP-201 which will output CV and I can control the pitch of the Freqbox, detuning it intervals and the like...


The mB outputs CV directly, so you don't need the MP-201.
Just plug the CV out of mB into the freqbox and then run
the output of the freqbox into the audio in on the mB to
run it through the mB filter with the mB oscillator.


Right, but if I wanted to detune the 2nd oscillator, perhaps up to a 5th, then I would needs something like MP-201 for the freqbox. Right?


Nope, you'd just need to:
1) plug 1V/oct CV out of MB to osc 1V/oct in
2) turn tuning knob on osc to interval you want
that's it! Perfect excuse to start a modular synth w00t
jabberwalky
I think it'd be possible to add another LFO into the software Midi/CV. Something like the Kenton Pro Solo.
Vacancy Of Disco
are there any other oscillators (modular or in desk top module) that has the same kind of flexibility as the minibrute?

maybe minibrute + EMW micro modular = Huge amount of awesomeness in a tiny (well compared to my other wet dream, voyager + 44 space 5U setup) package
Umcorps
I've got a Minibrute on order specifically to partner my Tinysizer.

I'll let you know how it goes. screaming goo yo
Rod Serling Fan Club
Vacancy Of Disco wrote:
are there any other oscillators (modular or in desk top module) that has the same kind of flexibility as the minibrute?



That is a sort of vague question. You can do whatever you want in modular-land so it can be as basic or complex as you want. Depending on the functionality you are after, you might need multiple modules. What features do you want in your extra oscillator?

Umcorps wrote:
I've got a Minibrute on order specifically to partner my Tinysizer.

I'll let you know how it goes. screaming goo yo


Sounds fun.
Vacancy Of Disco
Rod Serling Fan Club wrote:
Vacancy Of Disco wrote:
are there any other oscillators (modular or in desk top module) that has the same kind of flexibility as the minibrute?



That is a sort of vague question. You can do whatever you want in modular-land so it can be as basic or complex as you want. Depending on the functionality you are after, you might need multiple modules. What features do you want in your extra oscillator?


oh sorry, i meant being able to mix and modulate the individual waveforms like the MB. I know most modular VCOs offer separate outs for each waveform and then i could send them to a mixer, but is there anyway to modulate the separate waveforms all at once (like the metalizer, pulse width, and ultra saw features on he MB)
Chuck E. Jesus
i think the reason so many of us are snapping this up is because there's so many features for the price of a premium osc...
Rod Serling Fan Club
Chuck makes a valid point. You could probably purchase a second minibrute for the cost you will sink into getting a module or two and the power supply/case. Going modular is great and the minibrute would be an awesome modular companion. However, if having a second oscillator is very important to you, why not get a synth with 2 oscillators?

On the other hand there are all kinds of crazy modules that would be fun to pair with the minibrute. You might consider an oscillator that supplements features rather than duplicates. A digital oscillator paired with an analog oscillator through the same filter can sound massive.
Jason Brock
Vacancy Of Disco wrote:

oh sorry, i meant being able to mix and modulate the individual waveforms like the MB. I know most modular VCOs offer separate outs for each waveform and then i could send them to a mixer, but is there anyway to modulate the separate waveforms all at once (like the metalizer, pulse width, and ultra saw features on he MB)


A modular allows you to put things in any order you choose.
What's going on under the MiniBrute's hood is that there are things placed in between the oscillator's individual outputs and the mixer - like the triangle is being run through a waveshaper. It's not a function that is built into the oscillator (though some modular oscillators do have things like that included on the panel, but they still use the "FX chain" approach that you could recreate with individual modules). So yes, you could recreate this with a modular.

triangle out -> waveshaper -> mixer
SourceDist
This is a horrible tease of a post, but I have a prototype MiniBrute at home right now in the studio! Will be shooting a video in the next few days with it.

Initial impressions very, very good - it's unique indeed. Both capable of sounding bright, modern and wild, but also sounding vintage (for obvious want of a better term, but it does exemplify it), warm, driven, and full of character. It's the kind of tones many people will assume that analogues make, even though many, being cleaner than you might think, don't. And obviously having a Wavefolder built in gives it a kind of capability that actually even more analogues (outside modular world at least) really don't.

Envelopes VERY fast if you want them to be. The Brutefactor is crazy too, in that at high levels (much like on an analog desk where you feed a channel back onto itself), you start getting very strange behaviour - in certain combos it was basically bashing out a beat, all by itself.

Monotribe SYNC out into Gate In fires off the Envelopes like a charm. Not hooked it up to the modular yet though, but it's going to be great to have a handy MIDI>CV converter. The USB aspect just hooked up and worked first time with Live, no drivers needed.
mckenic
thumbs up

Sweet! Looking forward to the vids!
yusynth
For those who pre-ordered and are complaining about the delivery date being postponed to end of April, note that on Arturia's web site it has allways been said that the availability for the MiniBrute is April 2012.

Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
must be the shirts...

Rockin' Banana! The two guys on the video wore those typical Swiss farmer shirts. It was a kind of a joke for this one shot band created for this occasion and called for fun "Rösti Wave" (Rösti is a typical Swiss dish made of grinded potatoes blended with yolk and rosted).
I was there and they played twenty minutes and it was really beautiful.
Umcorps
SourceDist wrote:
This is a horrible tease of a post


Yes. Yes it is.

I can go right off some people you know. razz
James Mandible
yusynth wrote:
For those who pre-ordered and are complaining about the delivery date being postponed to end of April, note that on Arturia's web site it has allways been said that the availability for the MiniBrute is April 2012.


No complaints here, gives me more time to put aside more cash for it. thumbs up
Just wishing I could play it NOW! lol
Chuck E. Jesus
yusynth wrote:
Rockin' Banana! The two guys on the video wore those typical Swiss farmer shirts. It was a kind of a joke for this one shot band created for this occasion and called for fun "Rösti Wave" (Rösti is a typical Swiss dish made of grinded potatoes blended with yolk and rosted).
I was there and they played twenty minutes and it was really beautiful.


i like the shirts, cool story behind them...and i could use some Rösti while i await my MB...
ringstone
SourceDist wrote:
This is a horrible tease of a post, but I have a prototype MiniBrute at home right now in the studio! Will be shooting a video in the next few days with it.


Yes, I'm not sure now who is the Brute, you or the Arturia!!!

Hehe...

Cheers
Blair
Kent
SourceDist wrote:
This is a horrible tease of a post, but I have a prototype MiniBrute at home right now in the studio! Will be shooting a video in the next few days with it.


Summanabitch...!


SourceDist
Umcorps wrote:
Yes. Yes it is.


Apologies for evilness. Good things await!
r05c03
So glad I pre-ordered. Looking forward to April.
Thundersack88
joey wrote:
buying this shit day 1.


+1
kevinrae
...but I would like to hear from some more folks who actually have it before I pull the trigger.
tailwagger
Couldn't resist the MusiciansFriend Valentine14 discount.....I'm in.....
ryandfl
I'm hoping at least one of you puts yours up on BST.
mhtones
Latest update from Musician's Friend is end of April. sad banana Spoke to them today. Wonder if this is the same for everyone. Gonna be a loooong wait.
Chuck E. Jesus
mhtones wrote:
Latest update from Musician's Friend is end of April. sad banana Spoke to them today. Wonder if this is the same for everyone. Gonna be a loooong wait.


i got an email reiterating backorder but no date given...if mr. yusynth says april as well, i'm going to assume this is true...
h4ndcrafted
Digital village sent me a new invoice saying April.
lessavyfav
It would be funny if someone put one on BST before they even deliver. I ordered and then canceled when I realized I couldn't hold the $ till the end of April
Sir Ruff
ryandfl wrote:
I'm hoping at least one of you puts yours up on BST.


hmmm..... Given we're not exactly talking big bucks here, I'm imagining if you can't afford it new, you also won't be able to afford it "used".
ryandfl
Sir Ruff wrote:
ryandfl wrote:
I'm hoping at least one of you puts yours up on BST.


hmmm..... Given we're not exactly talking big bucks here, I'm imagining if you can't afford it new, you also won't be able to afford it "used".


Well 20% off, or so, is 20% off. I'm holding out until people have the units in hand and are reviewing them anyways.
ausgeno
ryandfl wrote:


Well 20% off, or so, is 20% off.


I got 15% off mine when I pre-ordered it at Musicians Friend!

I'm pretty antsy for it to get here, but the Minitaur should come out in 2 weeks and that'll keep me busy until then.
James Mandible
mhtones wrote:
Latest update from Musician's Friend is end of April. sad banana Spoke to them today. Wonder if this is the same for everyone. Gonna be a loooong wait.


Sweetwater told me April 10th-ish
h4ndcrafted
Well I'm just going to forget about it for now. I'm thinking demand wil be high so some of us won't see them for a while yet anyway, pre order or not.
cliffemu
Any other MF coupon codes to stack with PRESIDENTS12 today? I'm about to fund this synth as well... hard not to...
ThinLazy
cliffemu, you should check on the back of MF catalogs they send out in the mail.
The catalogs sometimes have a one time addtional 15% off code on the back.
vassili
First french synth since :

cliffemu
ok I'm in. Arturia better come through for all of us!
nikmis
I want this synthesizer. I am considering selling my sh-101 to finance the purchase. That is probably a bad decision I don't know
ben jah men
I'm just praying Aruturia offer a discount for Musicians Friend employees.. its the ONLY way I'll have one before Dead Banana christmas d'oh!

I'm crossing my fingers.. shit, they sell us the spark for (shh) under 200 bucks.. (what its worth I know).. if the discount is anything similar.. I'm in too smile
TestSetRadio
i'm all kinds of stoked for this thing. it'll clean out half the junk i use to interface between pieces of gear in my rig, and probably have some interesting sounds too.

i've spent way more on way stupider stuff.
DougD
I wouldn't sell an SH-101 for it Nikmis... the old Rolands will only go up in value, whereas Minibrutes will be cheap, popular and sold at retail for a while. Better to hold on to the classic and save up. Guinness ftw!
prinsen
Better if he feel's nostalgia towards the classic stuff (and/or greed). Worse if he can't afford, don't need or haven't got the space for both.
In my experience hoarding musical instruments and studio equipment is bad for creativity.
Sir Ruff
prinsen wrote:
In my experience hoarding musical instruments and studio equipment is bad for creativity.
...as is hoarding for investment purposes! Seems like a guaranteed way to have something die before you can sell it.
Thundersack88
If hes using the SH 101 for functional purposes (CV/GATE, Sequencer) then by all means get rid of it. As far as sound goes, is this even a comparison? The minibrute doesnt seem to sound anything like an SH 101.
nikmis
basically, I bought the sh-101 because I came across it in a thrift shop for a bit less than what they go for on ebay. I didn't really need one or want one. I barely use it as a synthesizer, I just kind of use it as a controller for my kraftzwerg and frac modules. but I don't use the sequencer. other people would. I would be doing a service to the roland sh-101 by putting it in the hands of someone who cares

but the arturia minibrute looks so interesting!
James Mandible
Yeah by all means if you're not lovin' on it and don't really need it, move it along to someone who will! That's always my feeling on gear.
fate
I'd love to get my hands on one of these and try it out, honestly for the price, its a great piece
Thundersack88
James Mandible wrote:
Yeah by all means if you're not lovin' on it and don't really need it, move it along to someone who will! That's always my feeling on gear.


+1
werock
It's reviewed in the March Sound on Sound:

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/mar12/articles/arturia-minibrute.htm
r05c03
What did they think about it? I can't read the whole article.
werock
Neither can I, I'm not a subscriber sad banana

I'm going to have to wait until I see the print version. Just thought someone here probably would be a subscriber.
r05c03
This statement gives me a hard-on and makes me happy I preordered...

"the MiniBrute’s may be the most advanced analogue oscillator that I have ever seen on a non-modular monosynth."
jbartee
I bought the PDF since it was only $1.50 and I needed something to read over breakfast. Overall it's extremely positive. They liked it, and predict great success.

They praise the sound and sonic range.
They love the overall size, UI, and build-quality.
They're impressed by the modulation capabilities and the expressivity with which they can be controlled.

They didn't like the keyboard width, and want a 37/49 key version.
They specifically state they wish it had a Moog filter instead (seriously, i just don't get it).
They think a delay function on the main LFO would be cool.
werock
jbartee wrote:

They specifically state they wish it had a Moog filter instead (seriously, i just don't get it).


Surely that just comes down to personal preference? You can't criticise it based on that. I think it would have been a mistake myself, with the Minitaur released at about the same time - it would have ended up with endless comparisons between the two.
mark_snipz
SourceDist wrote:
This is a horrible tease of a post, but I have a prototype MiniBrute at home right now in the studio! Will be shooting a video in the next few days with it.


Any vids yet? Would like to see the arpeggiator being synced to the Monotron!
Kent
[quote="jbartee"] They specifically state they wish it had a Moog filter instead (seriously, i just don't get it).[quote]

Solved:


Chuck E. Jesus
tbh the Steiner style filter was the tipping point feature, it's something i don't have represented in my rig but wanted...
Thundersack88
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
tbh the Steiner style filter was the tipping point feature, it's something i don't have represented in my rig but wanted...


I personally think this is BS! EVERY synth should have a moog filter! fap fap fap...
jbartee
It's a really obnoxious portion of the article tbh.

He opens with: "The world cries out for 24dB/octave filters that have the M-word at the front of them."

He goes on to list ARP 4012 / 4075, SSM and CEM filters as all being better choices than the Steiner.

Then he explicitly states that the Synthacon is only held in high regard because it's rare, and that the reason it didn't sell well is precisely because of its filter that can't produce (direct quote) "conventional synth sounds and acoustic emulations."

I dunno, the dude's clearly coming at this thing from a very different angle than I am. In any case he doesn't seem to think it's that big of a deal ultimately, since he still predicts it's going to sell boat loads.
r05c03
I do not use synths, ever, to emulate other instruments....I want it to sound like a synth. Just saying.
ThinLazy
The Steiner filter was a selling point for me too, definitely would not
have pre-ordered it if it had a Moog filter. One point I agree with the
article on is that I really would have liked it to have a few more keys,
but I guess that's one way to keep costs down.
mckenic
hihi

LAST thing i want is "conventional synth sounds and acoustic emulations."
Thundersack88
mckenic wrote:
hihi

LAST thing i want is "conventional synth sounds and acoustic emulations."


Seriously... who the hell looks at an analog synth in 2012 and goes "Oh man this is going to produce some of those killer viola and flute sounds ive been after!"
mckenic
Yeah, I think acoustic emulations could be cut from that quote - do not want conventional synth sounds!
pulse_divider
jbartee wrote:
It's a really obnoxious portion of the article tbh.

He opens with: "The world cries out for 24dB/octave filters that have the M-word at the front of them."

He goes on to list ARP 4012 / 4075, SSM and CEM filters as all being better choices than the Steiner.

Then he explicitly states that the Synthacon is only held in high regard because it's rare, and that the reason it didn't sell well is precisely because of its filter that can't produce (direct quote) "conventional synth sounds and acoustic emulations."

I dunno, the dude's clearly coming at this thing from a very different angle than I am. In any case he doesn't seem to think it's that big of a deal ultimately, since he still predicts it's going to sell boat loads.


I haven't read the full article, just the teaser on the SOS site.
But in fairness to the reviewer, in the context of possible sales numbers he's likely correct... a more famous filter topology would probably sell more synths for Arturia. Just the fact that the general public (Ebay anyone?) uses the term "Moog filter" to describe just about any 24db LPF shows how uninformed people can be.
Whether or not you like Gordon Reid, he certainly is pretty well informed on this stuff and not some clueless noob. I'm sure he has experience with all the filters he mentions.
numbertalk
Yeah, agree with him or not, Gordon Reid is a veteran.
MrDys
The filter was probably the least of it that made me want to get it. Personally, I love that there's an oscillator mixer and that each wave shape has its own dedicated waveshaper control (PWM, super saw, wave folder). That's the type of synth voice that I regularly patch up with my modular, so it's great to see it in one package. It's like they read my mind.

You could have swapped in any number of filters in the minibrute and I still would have gotten it based on the voice architecture.
jbartee
I'm not sure I agree that the filter choice is going to hurt Arturia in the marketplace. I think the target demographic could give a crap about filter architecture really, and if they're drinking the Moog-aid then they're not going to be converted by a moog knock-off anyway. The aggressive character of the Steiner might actually appeal more to the young blood than classic 24/dB. Will be interesting to see.

Anyway Reid does a good job covering the synth and actually seems to quite like it in the end. The filter discussion is obnoxious because it just feels like an arbitrary aesthetic judgement. It's fine and even helpful to point out that this isn't going to give you cream like a moog LPF does, but the article editorializes in a way that makes me feel like the point is being missed a little.
Chuck E. Jesus
Thundersack88 wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
tbh the Steiner style filter was the tipping point feature, it's something i don't have represented in my rig but wanted...


I personally think this is BS! EVERY synth should have a moog filter! fap fap fap...


i already have an A-108 and a Little Phatty, i'll modify the MB to bypass the filter razz
Kent
How silly of Gordon Reid. He's normally quite an astute reviewer and observer. Now why would Arturia choose to get beaten by Moog at their own game? People will just get a Moog if they want a Moog.

Arturia did right by doing it differently.
Jaspo
WTF ... now the ship date is 7/06/2012.
budz
Wow... Gordon Reid knows his shit and I have a lot of respect for him, but that is a really weak argument woah
ben jah men
or maybe the filter really does suck seriously, i just don't get it

I mean its one thing to have crazy stuff in our modulars as choices.. but maybe he is implying that all the beginners getting this as there first synth are going to be thrown off by it (and without spending hundreds of more dollars and routing external cables are going to HAVE to use it). That said.. the thing sounds sweet as honey to me!! Nasty sticky sex honey.

can't wait screaming goo yo
numbertalk
It is possible to view the Steiner as a bit more of a "specialty" filter and not the only filter to have. I have one in my modular and am excited to have one here, but as far as starter-level synthesists, it might not sound like what they would want or expect. In my opinion this is a good thing - as said earlier, why go head-to-head with Moog when there are Moog synths currently in production.

Still, I was surprised to hear someone as seasoned as Gordon Reid say this without qualifying it more, but I'll try to give him credit and assume this is what he meant. All depends on how Arturia markets it.
Kent
ben jah men wrote:
or maybe the filter really does suck seriously, i just don't get it


It doesn't. I played the shit out of that thing at NAMM. The MiniBrute was easily one of the synth highlights for me and it was definitely the 'fixed-architecture' highlight of the show.
Rod Serling Fan Club
"conventional synth sounds and acoustic emulations” Wow, really out of touch! That is something I would expect to read in a synth article from 1985. So what did Moog send Gordon for xmas this year?

IMO all of the Moog and 303 based hardware has made the modern analog market very dull. I really fail to find a single aspect of the minibrute to complain about when I take it all into consideration (price, features, compactness, uniqueness, etc.).
Chuck E. Jesus
Jaspo wrote:
WTF ... now the ship date is 7/06/2012.


how's that?
Jaspo
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
Jaspo wrote:
WTF ... now the ship date is 7/06/2012.


how's that?

Musician's Friend. Ordered on 1/22. Checked it today and it says estimated ship date 7/06/2012. Could be a glitch.
jbartee
Jaspo wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
Jaspo wrote:
WTF ... now the ship date is 7/06/2012.


how's that?

Musician's Friend. Ordered on 1/22. Checked it today and it says estimated ship date 7/06/2012. Could be a glitch.


Mine says the same. Super bummer if true.
ear ear
Rod Serling Fan Club wrote:
"conventional synth sounds and acoustic emulations” Wow, really out of touch! That is something I would expect to read in a synth article from 1985 years ago. So what did Moog send Gordon for xmas this year?

IMO all of the Moog and 303 based hardware has made the modern analog market very dull. I really fail to find a single aspect of the minibrute to complain about when I take it all into consideration (price, features, compactness, uniqueness, etc.).


In this context his Buchla review/raspberry and Don's reply in SOS in 2005/6 is chucklesome. In his review of the Cwejman PH-4 and MX-4S modules in 2008 he says:

We are stepping way, way beyond conventional analogue synthesis here, walking realms that even well-appointed monosynths can only admire from a distance.

Hmmm, this sounds a little bit familiar... Some old guy from the sixties... His name starts with a 'B'...? Bob something...? Hmmm, I dunno - maybe I'm confused...

Joking apart, Gordon Reid did write Synth Secrets! applause
ausgeno
I'm also glad it didn't come with a Moog filter, it would have made my Minitaur purchase just that little bit more redundant.

And my ship date from Musicians Friend has also slipped to 7/06/2012! Argh! waah
jbartee
Rod Serling Fan Club wrote:
"conventional synth sounds and acoustic emulations” Wow, really out of touch! That is something I would expect to read in a synth article from 1985. So what did Moog send Gordon for xmas this year?

IMO all of the Moog and 303 based hardware has made the modern analog market very dull. I really fail to find a single aspect of the minibrute to complain about when I take it all into consideration (price, features, compactness, uniqueness, etc.).


To be fair, he actually is referencing the 1970's reaction to the Synthacon with that quote, albeit with the implication that the same principle applies today.

And I completely agree about the long arm of the Moog / 303 filter types. They are lovely, but I don't think we need any more of them at the moment.
whitewulfe
I personally love the edgy/punchy feeling the MiniBrute gives off, especially with all the flexible power under the hood... My only beef is the same as one of the ones that has already been listed - keyboard's too damn small!

But for $500, I don't really care, since the size I want would probably have doubled the cost...
dopefiend
Funny thing about Gordon Reid: he finds the choice of filter "iffy" because it's a 12-dB instead of 24, yet he worships his Yamaha GX-1.

And I question that, in 2012, people want YET ANOTHER Moog-filter-based synth. The Moog standard has been so hyped and overstated that, IMO, is now trite and worn out. There is already a Moog in production, so why come up with another one?.
Reminds me of the commercial: "this photocopier has features that makes it as good as a Xerox," the salesmen would announce to the potential buyer in 3 different stores. Then finally he goes to a fourth one, and asks: "is this as good as a Xerox?" the salesman replies: "it is a Xerox!" If we want Moog, we get a Voyager or a Phatty or a Taurus or a Moogerfooger...... or any of the other miriad of emulations.

I personally think that the choice of Steiner filter was excellent. Makes this thing sound DIFFERENT, for a change. You don't read or hear about Buchla trying to produce a Moogla-sounding filter, do yah..?
This thing seems to have a sound that rips through concrete. Notwhitstanding the very short keyboard, I think it's an incredible instrument, and a 3-octave one would be PERFECT, even if they keep the one VCO architecture.

I want one, but first I'll buy the Studiologic-Waldorf love child... w00t!!
r05c03
Hmm. Preordering from MF, when did you order? Could their be a batch coming out in April and a batch later in the summer depending on when your order came in?
Squigg
r05c03 wrote:
Hmm. Preordering from MF, when did you order? Could their be a batch coming out in April and a batch later in the summer depending on when your order came in?


It seems like everyones order has been pushed back. I ordered mine 3 days after it was announced from GC. It originally said that i would be getting it in March, then April, and now the end of June. It seems that Arturia either didnt realize how well this little thing might sell, or has some major issues they are dealing with.
Chuck E. Jesus
kind of feel silly pre-ordering, but at least it's paid for...
itijik
This really should have been a cheaper version of a Moog. I don't like it.
chando
wah?
itijik
That is a joke, of course hihi
Christopher Winkels
dopefiend wrote:
Funny thing about Gordon Reid: he finds the choice of filter "iffy" because it's a 12-dB instead of 24, yet he worships his Yamaha GX-1.

And I question that, in 2012, people want YET ANOTHER Moog-filter-based synth. The Moog standard has been so hyped and overstated that, IMO, is now trite and worn out. There is already a Moog in production, so why come up with another one?.


Couldn't have said it better myself. I never could understand the worship some people have for the 24 dB/octave filter, like it was the holy grail of topology.

It's good. It's great in some cases. But it's not as though 12 dB is an "inferior" design. It's like saying chocolate is inferior to vanilla or strawberry.
clusterchord
cudos to Gordon Reid for synth secrets.. truly amazing and helpful series.

however, this is not the first or the last time he made such stunts in reviews. he and several others in SOS have a long history of tad biased or ill-informed reviews. not just that but serving plain out inaccurate data... like refering to Jupiter 8 as a CEM based machine. or saying SE Omega sounds like MKS80, and they are both no better than his (UK made of course) Novation SuperNova. what utter rubbish.


so, whenever you read anything on the net, any article where author is getting payed for, you should read with a HUGE grain of salt. no matter who he is. just saying.


i stopped reading payed reviews like 15 years ago, when i stopped my kbd subscrition too. haven't missed either. there's always a better way to find out things about a product than reading SOS. luckily we have internet. just wait till some ppl buy it, use it.. talk about it. safest route.


maybe its an old english - french feud or something. SOS almost never gives a negative review of anything Mr. Green
drewtoothpaste
Mine doesn't have a back-order date. I'll let you touch my arm for a dollar.
fluxmonkey
NAAAOOOO... yr filters only got 12 dbs, innit? whereas MY filters go to 24... --Nigel Tufnel
Sir Ruff
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Mine doesn't have a back-order date. I'll let you touch my arm for dollar.
Squigg
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Mine doesn't have a back-order date. I'll let you touch my arm for a dollar.


I dont know if i would take that as a good or bad thing. the date that is.
ringstone
MrDys wrote:
The filter was probably the least of it that made me want to get it. Personally, I love that there's an oscillator mixer and that each wave shape has its own dedicated waveshaper control (PWM, super saw, wave folder). That's the type of synth voice that I regularly patch up with my modular, so it's great to see it in one package. It's like they read my mind.

You could have swapped in any number of filters in the minibrute and I still would have gotten it based on the voice architecture.


I agree, although I grew up with "traditional" mono synths where filters were all-important in sculpting the timbre of your sound, I find using waveshapers/wavefolders etc. far more rewarding these days. And the Arturia Brute has several - sounds like a particular reviewer needs to shake some old habits... hihi

Cheers
Blair
Chuck E. Jesus
drewtoothpaste wrote:
I'll let you touch my arm for a dollar.


only if it's after one of your weight lifting sessions...
suboptimal
I bet the touch would be worth it. He's meaty, after all.
Jason Brock
Christopher Winkels wrote:
Couldn't have said it better myself. I never could understand the worship some people have for the 24 dB/octave filter, like it was the holy grail of topology.

It's good. It's great in some cases. But it's not as though 12 dB is an "inferior" design. It's like saying chocolate is inferior to vanilla or strawberry.


I really don't think the slope of a filter makes a huge difference in character anyway, based on my experience. A Moog transistor ladder in 2-pole mode still sounds Moogy to me, just a bit brighter. And I would bet that if a Steiner filter were designed to have a 24dB slope, it would still retain its own unique character too, instead of suddenly sounding like a Moog. The real tonal difference seems to be mostly determined by the method used to create the resonant feedback loop.
dopefiend
Look at the crazy popularity of the Serge synthesizer......2-pole filters and all.
The Yamaha CS-80 has been touted to be one of the fattest-sounding poly synths in history, 12-dB's notwithstanding!
Anyone want to question the obesity of the Oberheim SEM?

I think that the argument of the Arturia (or any other synth, for that matter) being inferior for having 2-pole LPF's instead of 4-pole ones is pretty lame.
And while we are on the argument of screwed-up views from those SOS reviewers, I remember the reviews of both the Analogue Systems RS Integrator and the Doepfer A-100 in the late 90's done by Chris Carter. He gave a raving review of the AS, praising the "high construction quality and excellent sound" of it, while giving the Doepfer a tepid, lackluster one. At that time I personally had the opportunity to try out both of these systems. I had a generous Doepfer rig, and wanted to expand it with AS, so I purchased 3 VCO's, a mixer and and a filter, and what a disappointment!! The PC boards were bent at their attachment to the front panels, the front panel legends were cheap-looking and barely legible (font too thin) and some were fading (in all fairnesss to Carter, he did briefly state that the front panels looked cheap). The jacks were as loose as the Doepfers (not mentioned by CarterThe filter was kind of bland for me. Chris Carter wrote that they "oozed quality" (WTF!!! angry very frustrating ).
In all fairness to AS, a few years later I bought a Bode FS clone, and the build was better, with great sound, even though the front plate was still hard to read and cheap-looking. I have therefore declared, based on my experience, the Doepfer to be overall superior to the AS, and have stuck with it since.

Now, I am not implying that the SOS staff is British-biased, but in my personal experiences with these instruments I just could not see what this dude what describing in his reviews, and since then I take his opinions with a heavy sodium load. Nevertheless, I still love some of their articles, especially Gordon Reids', and I think his review of the Buchla was fair, in spite of how bruised Don's feelings got.
mhtones
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Spoke to a CS rep today because I just received another backorder automated email after receiving a similar email a couple weeks ago. He indicated that I still had a tentative backorder shipping date of end of April. The date on their website for July is for anyone ordering a Minibrute today. He indicated that they had 97 pre-orders and I found out that I was somewhere between #60 - 70. They are expecting 90 Minibrutes at the end of April. So, 91 - 97 will be filled upon their 2nd shipment, hence the July date.

One thing to note: You will fall off their pre-order waiting list if you do not contact them within 60 days of your order. So, if your a part of the first 90 and still want your Minibrute tentatively shipped in April, you'll need to call them and let them know. By calling, they reset your 60 day grace period.

Now, all this is what I was told by MF CS. I take it all with a grain of salt. I'm hopeful for April, but prepared for actually receiving this later. Will give me more time to save up for it. hihi And sorry if someone else has already posted all this, I didn't want to read thru the hundreds of posts. Besides, figured this was an update that some might appreciate.
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What??? No 24db filter, crap I'm cancelling my pre-order. hihi
MrDys
mhtones wrote:
One thing to note: You will fall off their pre-order waiting list if you do not contact them within 60 days of your order. So, if your a part of the first 90 and still want your Minibrute tentatively shipped in April, you'll need to call them and let them know. By calling, they reset your 60 day grace period.


I just don't get that. I ordered a thing, why would they not fulfill it? Especially if they know that the delivery date is more than 60 days out?
Chuck E. Jesus
mhtones wrote:
They are expecting 90 Minibrutes at the end of April. So, 91 - 97 will be filled upon their 2nd shipment, hence the July date.

One thing to note: You will fall off their pre-order waiting list if you do not contact them within 60 days of your order. So, if your a part of the first 90 and still want your Minibrute tentatively shipped in April, you'll need to call them and let them know. By calling, they reset your 60 day grace period.


sounds closer to what the MF guy told me...thing is i already paid, i'm guessing because i used a discount code?

mhtones wrote:
What??? No 24db filter, crap I'm cancelling my pre-order. hihi


i don't mean to diss the reviewer guy's credentials, but who cares what he thinks?
drip.feed
Guys, before the Gearslutz Witch Burning gathers any more momentum, I'd like to ask how many of you actually read the review (written by a guy not given to hysterical hyperbole and who has played and reviewed more synthesizers in his long life than you or I have ever heard of)? I did, because I get SOS on subscription.

(all emphasis here is my own)

Re: the filter. My interpretation of what he wrote was that he merely questioned the non-obvious choice (based on poor sales of the original filter back in the 1970's) and then allowed Arturia to explain why they chose it, to wit: the American Moog sound which many players want was too obvious, whilst the madcap Russian and English filters were "too characteristic of the original synths". So they chose a filter that offered "versatility and savagery" and also meant the 'brute wouldn't sound like any other modern synth.

Where is Reid's bias or ill-informed fuckwittery in that??

Reid then spent the rest of the review spilling his seed about the MiniBrute.

He documents his gradual conversion to the dark side:
"At first, I struggled to get the sounds that I wanted from it. The filter seemed rather too flaccid for my hardened 36dB/octave tastes, and the shape of the contours didn’t quite work for me. But as time passed, things started to drop into place, and I found myself generating some sounds that I really liked."

Next paragraph:
"...the result was a deep, speaker-shredding bass that was more buffalo than bull. I loved it."

Next Paragraph:
"One patch I tried used the Metalized triangle wave responding to an AD filter envelope and slow LFO modulation, with the filter at high Q also following the contour, and the Brute Factor at about half power. When arpeggiated, this raised the dead from under my 250-year-old house...and I hadn't even started mixing waveforms!"

Next paragraph:
"Playing with the MiniBrute, I started to remember how much fun synthesis was before punk rock turned keyboard players into dweebs."

(Most of) his conclusion:
"You have to applaud Arturia for avoiding the temptation to build yet another low-cost ‘bass synth’ (or, as I think of them, synths with limited capabilities that just happen to play low notes)...In truth, if I were considering buying a second-hand SH101, Axxe or MS10 for the same price as a MiniBrute then, after agonising about the width of its keyboard, I would choose the MiniBrute...Yes, you should be excited, and yes, this is a mature synthesizer. I suspect that Arturia’s confidence may be justified. The MiniBrute could be a very successful product indeed."

Summary
"You might think that all the evolutionary niches for analogue synths were filled long ago, but the MiniBrute proves that that’s not so. More than 40 years after the emergence of the genus, it offers a unique architecture and can sound excellent. At the price, it should be one of the success stories of 2012."

Reid's message? All great synths are better than the sum of their parts, and Arturia has nailed it.

Side note: Paul White (I think it was), the Editor in Chief of Sound On Sound, was asked a couple of years ago about why SOS very rarely gives negative reviews. His reply was that, these days, for the kind of equipment SOS focuses on, there is actually very little shitty product.
mhtones
Hence the hihi hihi hihi Translation: I don't care what kind of filter it has, its got a lot of options packed into a nice interface and I can hook it up directly to my modular! For $425 US. Win-win for everyone who wants one! It's motherfucking bacon yo It's motherfucking bacon yo It's motherfucking bacon yo Review? What review?
rico loverde
drip.feed wrote:
Guys, before the Gearslutz Witch Burning gathers any more momentum, I'd like to ask how many of you actually read the review (written by a guy not given to hysterical hyperbole and who has played and reviewed more synthesizers in his long life than you or I have ever heard of)? I did, because I get SOS on subscription.

(all emphasis here is my own)

Re: the filter. My interpretation of what he wrote was that he merely questioned the non-obvious choice (based on poor sales of the original filter back in the 1970's) and then allowed Arturia to explain why they chose it, to wit: the American Moog sound which many players want was too obvious, whilst the madcap Russian and English filters were "too characteristic of the original synths". So they chose a filter that offered "versatility and savagery" and also meant the 'brute wouldn't sound like any other modern synth.

Where is Reid's bias or ill-informed fuckwittery in that??

Reid then spent the rest of the review spilling his seed about the MiniBrute.

He documents his gradual conversion to the dark side:
"At first, I struggled to get the sounds that I wanted from it. The filter seemed rather too flaccid for my hardened 36dB/octave tastes, and the shape of the contours didn’t quite work for me. But as time passed, things started to drop into place, and I found myself generating some sounds that I really liked."

Next paragraph:
"...the result was a deep, speaker-shredding bass that was more buffalo than bull. I loved it."

Next Paragraph:
"One patch I tried used the Metalized triangle wave responding to an AD filter envelope and slow LFO modulation, with the filter at high Q also following the contour, and the Brute Factor at about half power. When arpeggiated, this raised the dead from under my 250-year-old house...and I hadn't even started mixing waveforms!"

Next paragraph:
"Playing with the MiniBrute, I started to remember how much fun synthesis was before punk rock turned keyboard players into dweebs."

(Most of) his conclusion:
"You have to applaud Arturia for avoiding the temptation to build yet another low-cost ‘bass synth’ (or, as I think of them, synths with limited capabilities that just happen to play low notes)...In truth, if I were considering buying a second-hand SH101, Axxe or MS10 for the same price as a MiniBrute then, after agonising about the width of its keyboard, I would choose the MiniBrute...Yes, you should be excited, and yes, this is a mature synthesizer. I suspect that Arturia’s confidence may be justified. The MiniBrute could be a very successful product indeed."

Summary
"You might think that all the evolutionary niches for analogue synths were filled long ago, but the MiniBrute proves that that’s not so. More than 40 years after the emergence of the genus, it offers a unique architecture and can sound excellent. At the price, it should be one of the success stories of 2012."

Reid's message? All great synths are better than the sum of their parts, and Arturia has nailed it.

Side note: Paul White (I think it was), the Editor in Chief of Sound On Sound, was asked a couple of years ago about why SOS very rarely gives negative reviews. His reply was that, these days, for the kind of equipment SOS focuses on, there is actually very little shitty product.
I read the SOS article too and i did not get the feeling at all that he was bashing the filter. Get over it guys.
budz
Yes, I've read the review now and it's not a bad review overall at all. It is still a very odd thing to say though, and strikes me as being really out of touch, and the acoustic emulation comment I just cannot understand at all. Synths got popular because they made different sounds.

Also, I'm quite disappointed that even though I'm sure Gordon has lots of modular, there's nothing in the review about what it's like to use the Minibrute as a CV/gate controller - does it send out gates for individual generated arpeggiator notes for example? It's an example of why SOS reviews annoy me... most of the review tends to be a regurtitated press release/promo spiel about what the features are, with maybe a paragraph about what the thing is actually like to use, if you're lucky. The Arturia review is better than most in this respect though.
theabsent
budz wrote:
most of the review tends to be a regurtitated press release/promo spiel about what the features are


I stopped reading reviews years ago mainly for this reason. I found that really useful deep reviews were extremely rare. Might have changed since, I dunno.
drip.feed
budz wrote:
Yes, I've read the review now and it's not a bad review overall at all. It is still a very odd thing to say though, and strikes me as being really out of touch, and the acoustic emulation comment I just cannot understand at all. Synths got popular because they made different sounds.

Well, in ye olde days synths were often measured against yardsticks which nowadays seem patently naive. Every programmable synth back then had nothing but pianos, sax, guitar, organ, flute, brass and slap-bass sounds in their presets because that's how the intelligentsia of the day judged their capabilities. So I don't think Reid was holding that yardstick up himself, just giving the reader a sense of why the original filter might have bombed back in the day.

budz wrote:
Also, I'm quite disappointed that even though I'm sure Gordon has lots of modular, there's nothing in the review about what it's like to use the Minibrute as a CV/gate controller - does it send out gates for individual generated arpeggiator notes for example? It's an example of why SOS reviews annoy me... most of the review tends to be a regurtitated press release/promo spiel about what the features are, with maybe a paragraph about what the thing is actually like to use, if you're lucky.

I certainly agree with that. I nearly always skip the detailed crap and read the summary and conclusion first, then back-track through the review if it piques my interest. Some reviewers are so OCD they can't help themselves. Maybe they have a certain number of words-per-article to fill and documenting the features is a good way of bulking out a review?
drewtoothpaste
If you review something you like you have to point out a couple negatives or it sounds like you're writing ad copy for the company that gave you the free synthesizer.
abstraktor
I have no doubt over Gordon Reid's experience with, and knowledge of, synthesizers. It does, however, become very obvious that his arrogance & musical tastes (70's UK prog rock) have a strong influence over his reviews of equipment. He is a "traditional" keyboard player who has little or no regard for anything out-with that genre- or instruments that are designed for a non-conventional approach. (I can't imagine anyone less able to properly assess a Buchla). His reviews in SOS have irritated me for over 20 years and will continue to do so, but he always seems to get the pick of the crop. To be fair, though, he does really comprehensively review gear.
Yes, his "Synth Secrets" show an in-depth knowledge of sound synthesis, but they're mostly attempts at re-creating conventional instruments.
To me his review of the MB is actually positive (for him) but "punk rock" ( I guess he's referring to Cabaret Voltaire & Throbbing Gristle here) happened over 30 years ago and there have been many many developments in electronic music since then- get over it FFS!!
dopefiend
It is true that a review needs to include "critiques" of features that might be considered suboptimal to the needs of most of the consumers, otherwise it would sound like a biased, slobbering praise.
Interestingly, though....I remember in 1998 I read a hard copy of SOS which included a review of the Microwave XT by Paul Nagle, in which the "con" of the pro/con summary box read something like "nothing" (paraphrasing). I went back to the online version, and it now reads "external power supply" as con. Anybody have an original paper copy of that issue? I guess the editors found it to be a no-no to write such a thing, but that just shows how screwed up their reviewing philosophies are.....Then again, in all fairness, I have read some pretty whacky reviews on Keyboard magazine and Electronic Musician. I once read somebody complaining that a certain analog synth had no General MIDI, drums or sequencer.

But be that as it may....I agree that the overall tone of Gordon Reid's review is very favorable, and the critique about the short keyboard is very reasonable.
empirix
hard to trust a review these days, particularly the ones in magazines such as sos, futuremusic etc etc, they appear not to want to upsaet the manufacturers too much and ruin advertising deals etc, this is why i no longer buy the mags!!
cliffemu
I can't wait to "raise the dead" with this synth cry thats like what you need for all modern/popular styles anyways!
critical
SlayerBadger!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oslu-bTF46w
matttech
don't know if this has been mentioned in this thread before - haven't got the patience to read 32 pages to find out....but it would appear that the minibrute suffers from the same affliction that most of the Arturia V-Collection had - namely, the inability to retrigger LFOs from key presses

may not be a big issue for many of you, but for me it makes the LFOs much less useful, especially for rhythmic stuff, as you'll never know where in its cycle it will start from. ok if you just want vague, subtle modulation....but utterly useless if you want to create pronounced rhythmic stuff. and what you'd do with a square wave when you can't determine when in its cycle it will start from, well..........beats me!

it drove me mad with the soft synths.....especially when you're using LFOs to create bendy bass sounds etc..

it looks like they have implemented their usual halfway house - "midi sync". that's great, in that it will at least be the same tempo as your clock/ midi....but you still won't know where you are in the wave cycle until you hit a key - will the pitch sweep up, or will it sweep down...who can tell?

i really hope i've got this wrong, but i had a good look over it as we were considering getting one for college, ad i couldn't see an option for key triggering anywhere. you can sync the LFOs to the arpeggiator, but that's not the same thing really...or is it?

maybe someone from arturia could chime in and let us know: can you reliably retrigger LFOs from a key press?

i also hope that the arpeggiator works properly - i know it's not really a "sequencer", but it IS a rhythm-based feature that presumably triggers from key presses - i can't help wondering if it will be reliable, as the sequencers on the ARP2600 and Moog Modular plugins were SO flaky - sometimes it wouldn't run, sometimes it would slip out of sync, tied notes were often ignored which would throw your sequence out of whack (instead of there being say 2 16th notes followed by 2 8th notes they would sometimes all just play 16ths...randomly)

the thing is - i made Arturia aware all of these issues , and initially got a couple of replies...but then they just started ignoring every bit of correspondence from then on, until i just gave up and stopped using the software. i emailed VERY detailed troubleshooting to give them as much information as possible to fix the problems, but nothing ever got sorted. to be honest, i just wanted shot of the bundle in the end, as the various issues (there were others too, but i forget what they were....) meant that i had to continuously bounce down parts to audio, as the reliability just wasn't there. that wasn't what i bought an 8-core mac pro to be doing....

hopefully things have changed at Arturia, and they are now providing decent technical support, and testing their products properly before putting them into the marketplace, but it'd take a LOT to convince me......their forums were a desolate waste ground of bitter customers when i used to go on there, so it might be worth having a look there to see if there is a new vibe.

sorry to be so neg, but i wouldn't want anyone to spend hundreds of pounds (like i did) and be as disappointed as i was.
critical
matttech wrote:
don't know if this has been mentioned in this thread before - haven't got the patience to read 32 pages to find out....but it would appear that the minibrute suffers from the same affliction that most of the Arturia V-Collection had - namely, the inability to retrigger LFOs from key presses


you can. LFO retrigger is off by default, but you can turn it on in software.

radiokoala
matttech wrote:
it drove me mad with the soft synths.....especially when you're using LFOs to create bendy bass sounds etc..

Well, u-he ace is devoid of such issue thumbs up
matttech
critical wrote:
matttech wrote:
don't know if this has been mentioned in this thread before - haven't got the patience to read 32 pages to find out....but it would appear that the minibrute suffers from the same affliction that most of the Arturia V-Collection had - namely, the inability to retrigger LFOs from key presses


you can. LFO retrigger is off by default, but you can turn it on in software.



THANK THE LORD!!

shame we just put our bid in at work for a completely different keyboard now....bugger! (although, to be fair, i think a Korg Microkorg is about the level our students are at, rather than creating sounds from scratch at every rehearsal - they're not techies you see.....mere "performers")
matttech
radiokoala wrote:
matttech wrote:
it drove me mad with the soft synths.....especially when you're using LFOs to create bendy bass sounds etc..

Well, u-he ace is devoid of such issue thumbs up


u-he ACE is excellent - have already created a thread about it:

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=48630&highlight=uhe

i'd recommend it to anyone interested in modulars who can't afford the real thing!
D_Bowman
This synth looks very appealing, although I'm not thrilled about having another single oscillator monosynth. I imagine that the Dark Energy would serve well as a second oscillator, though? is the Minibrute a triangle based?
francksuperbaby
hello from PARIS.

This my first post on this great forum. I would like to share the test on the new arturia minibrute made by audiofanzine.
Sorry it is in french language,but you can listen to the audio samples. the conclusion is: it is a great synth.
bye

P.S i hope i have the right to do so , here is the link.

http://fr.audiofanzine.com/synthe-analogique/arturia/minibrute/editori al/tests/le-petit-prodige.html
loydb
Great article, very understandable even via Google translate!

Now I'm ready for mine to get here...
sad banana
h4ndcrafted
francksuperbaby wrote:
hello from PARIS.

This my first post on this great forum. I would like to share the test on the new arturia minibrute made by audiofanzine.
Sorry it is in french language,but you can listen to the audio samples. the conclusion is: it is a great synth.
bye

P.S i hope i have the right to do so , here is the link.

http://fr.audiofanzine.com/synthe-analogique/arturia/minibrute/editori al/tests/le-petit-prodige.html


I'm totally glad I preordered this thing, sounds excellent , for the money it is way to good to be true.

Also, I wish I could read french, that review looks detailed...translate time.

£425 at DV. It is a no brainer if it fills your slot...erm.

It sound dirty and eats with its elbows on the table, exactly my kind of synth.
Rymf
SoS review is up.

And by up I mean you have to pay $1.50 to read it? Dead Banana
causticlogic
So...I haven't pre-ordered it yet, but with it now stretching way into July, i guess there is really no point in worrying about it in the near future I suppose.
Nevertheless, I have daydreams about someday getting one of these as well as a Sherman Filterbank 2 and introducing them to my modular.
I'm sure they all would become close friends. Sigh...
jessem
mhtones wrote:
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Spoke to a CS rep today because I just received another backorder automated email after receiving a similar email a couple weeks ago. He indicated that I still had a tentative backorder shipping date of end of April. The date on their website for July is for anyone ordering a Minibrute today. He indicated that they had 97 pre-orders and I found out that I was somewhere between #60 - 70. They are expecting 90 Minibrutes at the end of April. So, 91 - 97 will be filled upon their 2nd shipment, hence the July date.

One thing to note: You will fall off their pre-order waiting list if you do not contact them within 60 days of your order. So, if your a part of the first 90 and still want your Minibrute tentatively shipped in April, you'll need to call them and let them know. By calling, they reset your 60 day grace period.

Now, all this is what I was told by MF CS. I take it all with a grain of salt. I'm hopeful for April, but prepared for actually receiving this later. Will give me more time to save up for it. hihi And sorry if someone else has already posted all this, I didn't want to read thru the hundreds of posts. Besides, figured this was an update that some might appreciate.
Small Type: I do not work for nor am I affiliated in any way with Musicians Friend or any other retailer for that matter. thumbs up

What??? No 24db filter, crap I'm cancelling my pre-order. hihi


I saw the date moved to July and just canceled my pre-order. I don't care enough to play games.
h4ndcrafted
jessem wrote:
mhtones wrote:
Latest from Musician's Friend.

Spoke to a CS rep today because I just received another backorder automated email after receiving a similar email a couple weeks ago. He indicated that I still had a tentative backorder shipping date of end of April. The date on their website for July is for anyone ordering a Minibrute today. He indicated that they had 97 pre-orders and I found out that I was somewhere between #60 - 70. They are expecting 90 Minibrutes at the end of April. So, 91 - 97 will be filled upon their 2nd shipment, hence the July date.

One thing to note: You will fall off their pre-order waiting list if you do not contact them within 60 days of your order. So, if your a part of the first 90 and still want your Minibrute tentatively shipped in April, you'll need to call them and let them know. By calling, they reset your 60 day grace period.

Now, all this is what I was told by MF CS. I take it all with a grain of salt. I'm hopeful for April, but prepared for actually receiving this later. Will give me more time to save up for it. hihi And sorry if someone else has already posted all this, I didn't want to read thru the hundreds of posts. Besides, figured this was an update that some might appreciate.
Small Type: I do not work for nor am I affiliated in any way with Musicians Friend or any other retailer for that matter. thumbs up

What??? No 24db filter, crap I'm cancelling my pre-order. hihi


I saw the date moved to July and just canceled my pre-order. I don't care enough to play games.

Don't think it's a game, just think they under estimated how much interest they would have.
Johnisfaster
I plan on buying mine when a wiggler sells it at 80% of new.
EMwhite
I'm kind of grumpy and negative about this; looks good on TV (sound is hard to judge on the few lousy videos I saw); just concerned that in a year or two, one of the controls will become flakey.

Price is really really low for all that it looks like you are getting. Seems too good to be true somehow (I know, it's just me!)
zedius
Johnisfaster wrote:
I plan on buying mine when a wiggler sells it at 80% of new.


I preordered mine from JRRMusic.com for 80% of new already. I think the code is Analog12.
gwaidan
EMwhite wrote:
I'm kind of grumpy and negative about this; looks good on TV (sound is hard to judge on the few lousy videos I saw); just concerned that in a year or two, one of the controls will become flakey.

Price is really really low for all that it looks like you are getting. Seems too good to be true somehow (I know, it's just me!)


Mass production and modern parts, everything surface-mounted bar one chip and one capacitor (see the French article), and probable production in China is the reason it's cheap-think Monotron economics. A few people with rotary-encoder Poly Evolvers or older Oakley modules with Omeg pots can attest that paying a serious price doesn't always lead to indefinite life from panel controls....
Spanningtree
I got that July backordered email from MF, canceled at this point. It's ridiculous to have them holding money for half the year. seriously, i just don't get it
Johnisfaster
zedius wrote:
Johnisfaster wrote:
I plan on buying mine when a wiggler sells it at 80% of new.


I preordered mine from JRRMusic.com for 80% of new already. I think the code is Analog12.


Yeah but in the meantime I get to buy something, sell it, buy something else, sell it and then buy the minibrute for 80% of new down the road. Ohhhhh all the music I... wont be making.. :(
causticlogic
I'm hoping to buy used too. My other hope is that one shows up in a Guitar Center somehow at the end of April. It'd be full price, but if i liked it that much, it'd be better than waiting at this point.

Just think, by the time some of these pre-orders come through, Arturia will be just getting ready to unveil the next version of the Mini-Brute at NAMM 2013.
RubberCityNoise
Arturia said ETA is April. It is not April. No need for everyone to get in a fuss about preorders not shipping. Be patient. They call it a pre- order for a reason hmmm.....
loydb
Well, one Sweetwater preorder is now gone. In a rare fit of fiscal responsibility, brought on by finding out we're moving from Texas to Rhode Island, I've cancelled my preorder. cry
VanEck
Not surprised by MF/GC moving the dates around all over the place on people... I've never really enjoyed any of the business I've done with them in the past, which is why I stopped.

When I found out they were offering coupon codes $25 cheaper for the Minibrute over Nova, I sucked it up and stuck with Nova for two reasons:

Nova has never done me wrong.

Nova doesn't charge your card until it ships.

That extra peace of mind is worth the $25 to me.

Also, from what I've been told, my original order with Nova is still looking at a possible ship date of April.
mhtones
Musicians Friend told me they wouldn't charge my card until it shipped.
noobyscooby
So do we know yet whether the arpeggiator transfers stepped tuning and gating over CV/Gate yet or is CV/Gate just key down/gate open for one of the notes you have pressed?

If the arp doesn't transfer then it's not useful enough as a tool for me to have in a already crowded studio. The synth is great but I already have a lot of great synths. Needs something I don't already have.
MrDys
noobyscooby
EDIT
Audio Resistance
Nice demo, even though everything seems to sound like sync to him. If these boards do not sell like hot-cakes it is going to be a tragedy.
r05c03
Ha! "That sounds just like noise..."

I hope the I ordered from Nova Musik comes in April...no idea.
Sir Ruff
noobyscooby wrote:
So do we know yet whether the arpeggiator transfers stepped tuning and gating over CV/Gate yet or is CV/Gate just key down/gate open for one of the notes you have pressed?

If the arp doesn't transfer then it's not useful enough as a tool for me to have in a already crowded studio. The synth is great but I already have a lot of great synths. Needs something I don't already have.

Surely, if this is the only feature you need, there are other, cheaper methods of doing this?
vozs
drip.feed wrote:

Side note: Paul White (I think it was), the Editor in Chief of Sound On Sound, was asked a couple of years ago about why SOS very rarely gives negative reviews. His reply was that, these days, for the kind of equipment SOS focuses on, there is actually very little shitty product.

Ha! Paul White is BS'ing! He needs a assblast! Metasonix! SMACK!
jonah
I'm super happy for kids getting into synths today!
mecanikill
I am going to have to get one of these for sure!
z3r01
The demos of the Minibrute has, so far, been pretty good, but what I would really love to see, and would like to kindly request, would be some modular-Minibrute action. Mr. Green
radiokoala
ok, now it's time to put the headphones on! SlayerBadger!

jimtheswede
Sorry - don't know how to post the youtube vid, but here is Part Two regarding the filter. Beware of volume levels - this can be dangerous to speakers, hearing, and who knows what else! zombie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9axChfTqFWM&feature=colike[/video]


(i'm just learning to wiggle)
Popski
I'll be getting one of these. To me it's a future classic.
r05c03
Fuck yes
RubberCityNoise
The 2nd demo is hilarious.
"When we say the basoon can't be emulated... IT CAN! ...with this filter"
numbertalk
Marc Doty just seems to get more and more annoying. I can appreciate his enthusiasm but he seems like he'd be an irritating guy.
stainers
numbertalk wrote:
Marc Doty just seems to get more and more annoying. I can appreciate his enthusiasm but he seems like he'd be an irritating guy.

Fuckin A!
ThinLazy
numbertalk wrote:
Marc Doty just seems to get more and more annoying. I can appreciate his enthusiasm but he seems like he'd be an irritating guy.


I appreciate all the videos he makes but I agree I could use more
rock and less talk personally.
Rod Serling Fan Club
Is it strange that I really like triangle and sine waves? I never realized this was a thing.
Bob Borries
numbertalk wrote:
Marc Doty just seems to get more and more annoying. I can appreciate his enthusiasm but he seems like he'd be an irritating guy.


I beg to differ, he has an uncanny ability to express exactly what your thinking, so whole heartily agree with his assessments, it's rare you find someone who gets it, and can express it so eloquently.

How many reviews have you seen where it's all talk and they don't play a note until 15 minutes goes by, or they demo a filter with a sine wave pegging the levels so it sounds like its going through a distortion pedal?

After seeing one of his reviews, you know whether to buy it or not because he does all the cool shit your dying to try out yourself.
RubberCityNoise
Rod Serling Fan Club wrote:
Is it strange that I really like triangle and sine waves? I never realized this was a thing.

He talks shit about triagle waves! Blashphemy! It is a very unique low harmonic wave. The electric and unnatural sound is due to its harmonic content. However,tri waves shine with FM and folding/shaping. Go use your facncy saw wave Marc! I'll keep on using my "boring" triangle waves.
Madrayken
I have a lot of time for Marc. I love his enthusiasm and - living as I do in a world of geeks - his general level of charisma and articulate speech. Long may he go on, long may he get stuff a little wrong on occasion, long may he mistakenly prefer the Arp2600's ladder filter.

Shame some folks don't like him. I believe 'other sites are available'.
blz
yeah mr. dotty is awesome
de_raaf
cool demo's, seems he had to hold back his knowlegde i think for the mass about the special features ha ha
booger
Any word when these are set to start shipping?
h4ndcrafted
I love Marc's videos, he is on the right side of annoying if you ask me, it is very hard to animate your excitement without becoming annoying I think.

That sound at 3.20 on the filter video is great, so much sonic potential in such a small synth.

Those env caps can get changed straight away though lol.

It feels like year ago I put my pre on , it was only a couple of months ago :( come on Arturia!
greydominion
noobyscooby wrote:
So do we know yet whether the arpeggiator transfers stepped tuning and gating over CV/Gate yet or is CV/Gate just key down/gate open for one of the notes you have pressed?

If the arp doesn't transfer then it's not useful enough as a tool for me to have in a already crowded studio. The synth is great but I already have a lot of great synths. Needs something I don't already have.


Would be great to know this too. The only other synth off the top of my head that is capable of this is the SH101 which is a lot of $$ for just that.
noobyscooby
greydominion wrote:


Would be great to know this too. The only other synth off the top of my head that is capable of this is the SH101 which is a lot of $$ for just that.


Except that the SH-101 doesn't. The sequencer can but not the arp which is part of why I've never kept one of the three I've had around. For me it's about instant perfromance/screwing around.
greydominion


There he is arpeggiating the CV transposition of the CSQ600 sequencer which is controlling the SEM. Good example around :047. I had an SH101 as well and was able to do this too. Of course everything must be clocked properly.

Back to Minibrute, the demos of these are lacking thus far. Only show features but not really applying them to good sounds. Until it comes out, I would probably have to wait because it might just sound better on paper...
James Mandible
booger wrote:
Any word when these are set to start shipping?


For pre-orders? Sweetwater told me April 11th for mine last week.
radiokoala
greydominion wrote:


There he is arpeggiating the CV transposition of the CSQ600 sequencer which is controlling the SEM. Good example around :047. I had an SH101 as well and was able to do this too. Of course everything must be clocked properly.

Back to Minibrute, the demos of these are lacking thus far. Only show features but not really applying them to good sounds. Until it comes out, I would probably have to wait because it might just sound better on paper...

The nicest sound I've heard coming out of minibrute this far is this:

Sounds like a damn theremin, almost SlayerBadger!
noobyscooby
greydominion wrote:


There he is arpeggiating the CV transposition of the CSQ600 sequencer which is controlling the SEM. Good example around :047. I had an SH101 as well and was able to do this too. Of course everything must be clocked properly.

Back to Minibrute, the demos of these are lacking thus far. Only show features but not really applying them to good sounds. Until it comes out, I would probably have to wait because it might just sound better on paper...


But he's just sending CV signals right? Not CV and Gate. I don't think the 101 sends out CV and Gate to another 1v/Oct synth using just the arpeggiator.
greydominion
It is CV and Gate because the sequencer needs both signals incoming to accept them to transpose.
noobyscooby
Hmm...I could never get just the arpeggiator alone to send out CV and gate to my other synths. Maybe I had to work the levels a bit as I couldn't do it with all 3. Maybe should have kept one around as it at least has analog clock in as opposed to the Minibrute. Hmm...now I'm all confused... might just buy a Minibrute anyway for its other features and price point instead.
greydominion
I wish the Minibrute had a click in for the arp as well. At least with my MPC I can sync it via midi and still also have my analog gear clocked by a pulse coming out of one of the MPCs triggered outs.
lilakmonoke
this synth has awesome features, one has to wonder how they can do it at this price. i paid no attention to it because all other arturia stuff was not so hot but after seeing this thread i did ...

the only thing that seems to be missing is a serious low end, although its difficult to tell with the youtube sound quality. there is a lot of compression and saturation going on in the audio chain and that seems to take away the low end.

anyways, i would trade in my blue 101 for it but i have to hear it first, they should be out in april. lots of teenage dubstep producers will buy one so there should be a few used ones on ebay by the summer.
VanEck
The SH-101 definitely does not send gate out with the arp notes. Like noobyscooby said, the sequencer will though.

If the Minibrute does, it will be even more valuable to me, as this was a feature I really wished my SH-101 could do... and the brute is my 101 replacement more or less. Any confirmation of this would be appreciated!

Also to greydominion, unless you really know something, please don't advise others on this forum. We give good advice here bro. Speculating from a video does not make up for lack of knowledge about something. Anyone who owns a 101 knows first hand that it simply is not capable of what you are saying it is.
noobyscooby
Yep, a gate per note of the arp. Not just a gate when the keyboard is pressed down on each time.
TestSetRadio
has anyone actually received one of these guys yet? seriously, i just don't get it
computer controlled
AFAIK, they're not even released yet.
mhtones
Well, I guess the silver lining in the long backorder wait is that I just spent my money and got a great deal on a used DSI evolver! thumbs up the wait for the minibrute will probably be long enuf for me to save up again. hihi
yusynth
TestSetRadio wrote:
has anyone actually received one of these guys yet? seriously, i just don't get it


At day 0 (NAMM2012 january 19th) Arturia announced that the MiniBrute is to be released in April. From what I know the first batch will be delivered to resellers by the end of very last week of April. The second batch is due to mid June.
jcn7
If I remember correctly, it was mentioned that the MB will also have a "polychain" ability...if this is indeed true, then I can see Arturia selling a ton of expansion modules to polychain together for an ever increasing polyphony. Heck, even just 2 in a unison mode would be killer...2 MB filters running in parallel, say one HP into the 2nd in a LP mode...could reach MS20 territory quite nicely, and do a lot more...

I would love to see more inputs/outputs in an expansion module, but even if it was a total duplicate, it would still be a killer combo, for a lot less $ than many 2 osc synths.

Well done Yusynth and Arturia!
iamgoldman
just chiming in to tell arturia to shut up and take my money
fredguy
My ship date from MF just went from 4/20 to 5/21 sad banana

Anybody else preorder and have the date slip again?
zedius
If you preordered very early, that 5/21 ship date may not be so much of a downer for you as a promising development for late preorders.

When I had a preorder with musicians friend, they informed me that they had around 1000 minibrutes nationwide and they were selling out of Preorders. More minibrutes would be coming around June.

I’ve since heard that Arturia may be ramping up production to get more units out earlier than June. Perhaps the 05/21 ship date is the new planned ship date for MF’s second order?

They had really good info when I called them. You should call them and get answers.

I have since switched my order to JRRMusic so I am no longer worried about what MF does. JRR seems to have some crazy good deals.
Rigo
D_Bowman
One of the better demos!
Sir Ruff
huh... Jackass has had a broader musical influence than one might expect.

James Mandible
zedius wrote:
If you preordered very early, that 5/21 ship date may not be so much of a downer for you as a promising development for late preorders.



Unfortunately it's looking legit, sweet water told me all of their preorders are pushed back to late May.
Squigg
James Mandible wrote:
zedius wrote:
If you preordered very early, that 5/21 ship date may not be so much of a downer for you as a promising development for late preorders.



Unfortunately it's looking legit, sweet water told me all of their preorders are pushed back to late May.


Im in the same boat with GC. I pre ordered mine after I got back from NAMM, so i was early in the queue. Talked to a rep at GC friday and was told that they arent getting anything till 5/21. very frustrating
fredguy
Squigg wrote:
James Mandible wrote:
zedius wrote:
If you preordered very early, that 5/21 ship date may not be so much of a downer for you as a promising development for late preorders.



Unfortunately it's looking legit, sweet water told me all of their preorders are pushed back to late May.


Im in the same boat with GC. I pre ordered mine after I got back from NAMM, so i was early in the queue. Talked to a rep at GC friday and was told that they arent getting anything till 5/21. very frustrating


At least I'm not alone. sad banana
James Mandible
Squigg wrote:
James Mandible wrote:
zedius wrote:
If you preordered very early, that 5/21 ship date may not be so much of a downer for you as a promising development for late preorders.



Unfortunately it's looking legit, sweet water told me all of their preorders are pushed back to late May.


Im in the same boat with GC. I pre ordered mine after I got back from NAMM, so i was early in the queue. Talked to a rep at GC friday and was told that they arent getting anything till 5/21. very frustrating


Yup, I ordered the week of NAMM, within a day or so of preorders coming out so I was thinking mine would be pretty soon. Ah well. At least it's more cash for me to spend on that budding modular in the meantime I guess! thumbs up
RubberCityNoise
The push back of the arrival date works in my favor. Somethings came up and I will be broke until the begining of May! Dead Banana
MrDys
Well, someone's getting bumped up the list due to MF's dipshit backorder cancellation policy.

Fucking fuck. I'm trying to give you money, you idiots.
Jaspo
Mines moved up to 5/28 ... thanks wink
zedius
Well this is an interesting turn of events this morning... the Arturia website is down and it has been replaced with one of those useless advertising placeholders with all the links to places you don’t want to click...
mhtones
fredguy wrote:
My ship date from MF just went from 4/20 to 5/21 sad banana

Anybody else preorder and have the date slip again?


Yeah, me too. Spoke to a MF rep and they confirmed that their first receipt from arturia is now scheduled for 5/21. More time to save up.
Jaspo
My guess is that they delayed the ship date and increased the initial manufacture order to lower the cost per unit.
r05c03
Do we know yet what sort of MIDI info the MB will send / recieve?
r05c03
Up next, modulation


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzx7w_hoN5Y&feature=player_embedded#!
jbartee
Man, youtube caption translation is made of pure lols:



papercutnoise
r05c03 wrote:
Up next, modulation


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lzx7w_hoN5Y&feature=player_embedded#!




Dying to see the arpeggiator video! Mr Doty's videos are what swayed me to wait and go for a Minibrute instead of getting a Mopho Keyboard. As the Minibrute lacks a sequencer, it makes me really anxious to see what the arpeggiator can do.
z3r01
jbartee wrote:
Man, youtube caption translation is made of pure lols:






LOL! The subtitles are pure comedy gold! applause
lilakmonoke
i have two questions:

- whats that midi controller to the right of the minibrute above the ipad in kastunori-senseis demo video?

- if the MB has a velocity keyboard is there any way you can play it with velocity? there is no dial for it so is there some way to set this up via midi? me thinks a velocity sensitive monosynth would be nice to play. the vintage stuff doesnt do it.
gwaidan
It does have velocity sensitivity on the KB and I believe you will be able to set it up as velocity sensitive via a manager application.
lilakmonoke
shure but can you play the minibrute with velocity?
machetemirage
r05c03 wrote:
Do we know yet what sort of MIDI info the MB will send / recieve?




In this demo at 1:21 he mentions that the way they kept the cost low was having no midi control for the control panel. Besides keyboard data, arturia's website has this to say

"In addition, the arpeggiator is fully synchronizable with the MIDI input and with the LFO1 (using the clock switch), enabling perfect timing during your performance."
Sir Ruff
lilakmonoke wrote:
shure but can you play the minibrute with velocity?


A quick read of Aurturia's website would answer all of your questions... nothing on the synth is velocity sensitive, so while it sends velocity via midi out, it won't affect anything on the synth itself (only aftertouch does).
lilakmonoke
that is a damn shame! that would have been one vca more and one dial named volume/velocity. it makes all the difference in expressive playability. i guess they figured nobody knows how to play keyboards anyways any more so ...
radiokoala
Goodbye nuanced phrasing and control over dynamics... No, really, it's ridiculous. Even monotribe responds to velocity via midi zombie
gwaidan
Hmmm, none of the vintaj monosynths this will be compared with (and will be competing against at this price point) had velocity response and that didn't stop people playing them expressively. As it says in the old Moog slogan-"One hand plays, the other conducts"...
r05c03
hello mod wheel, after touch, pitch wheel, all expressive tools.
astroschnautzer
I think I read that it had velocity but it had to be controlled via software/midimessages....
ausgeno
astroschnautzer wrote:
I think I read that it had velocity but it had to be controlled via software/midimessages....


I thought it was the other way round. If you use the Minibrute to control another synth the keys will send velocity but the Minibrute will ignore any velocity you send to it. seriously, i just don't get it
D_Bowman
I wonder if the "brutefactor" can be applied to external input as well. I'm guessing so since it appears that the brutefactor is just feeding the output audio back into the filter?
jimtheswede
I plan on using mine midied to the my Dark Energy, then using the CV3 CV out on the DE back to the MB to the filter CV in. I think that would enable the MB to receive velocity- wouldn't it?
Also plan on using the audio in to process the DE. Should be a gnarly sounding pair! love
D_Bowman
jimtheswede wrote:
I plan on using mine midied to the my Dark Energy, then using the CV3 CV out on the DE back to the MB to the filter CV in. I think that would enable the MB to receive velocity- wouldn't it?
Also plan on using the audio in to process the DE. Should be a gnarly sounding pair! love


I believe that would work! A lot of the complaints aimed at both the Dark Energy and the Minibrute would be resolved by linking them up together. I would think they'd make a formidable pair!
jimtheswede
yeah - I hope that is the workaround to receive velocity via CV. It should work - the MB sends velocity via midi and the DE sends midi signals to the CV outs (CV3 for velocity).

I look forward to any demos that can show the Audio In & CV capabilities.
D_Bowman
I think I may have seen and heard enough to take a trip over to Sweetwater tomorrow and pre-order the damn thing.
astroschnautzer
ausgeno wrote:
astroschnautzer wrote:
I think I read that it had velocity but it had to be controlled via software/midimessages....


I thought it was the other way round. If you use the Minibrute to control another synth the keys will send velocity but the Minibrute will ignore any velocity you send to it. seriously, i just don't get it
might be... at least the knobs and sliders aren't midi controllable so that would mean its not possible to assign them to velocity...
ausgeno
astroschnautzer wrote:
ausgeno wrote:
astroschnautzer wrote:
I think I read that it had velocity but it had to be controlled via software/midimessages....


I thought it was the other way round. If you use the Minibrute to control another synth the keys will send velocity but the Minibrute will ignore any velocity you send to it. seriously, i just don't get it
might be... at least the knobs and sliders aren't midi controllable so that would mean its not possible to assign them to velocity...


That'd be a safe assumption, but on the other hand some knobs and sliders can be assigned to after-touch soooo, I'm just confused. seriously, i just don't get it
Jaspo
My MF ship date is back to 7/6
r05c03
Lame.
numbertalk
Jaspo wrote:
My MF ship date is back to 7/6


Mine too.
odecahedron
ordered mine over 6 weeks ago - word from the AUS distributor last week was no date-slide ... all my wiggly bits are crossed MY ASS IS BLEEDING
Rod Serling Fan Club
So does anywhere say they are still getting them this month? When I placed my order with nova they said I was the second order placed but they never gave me a time estimate, maybe I should call them.
JohnLRice
Probably all the high profile artists are pulling strings and scooping up the first batch before they hit retail! angry hihi
MindMachine
JohnLRice wrote:
Probably all the high profile artists are pulling strings and scooping up the first batch before they hit retail! angry hihi


So you have yours? zombie
JohnLRice
MindMachine wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:
Probably all the high profile artists are pulling strings and scooping up the first batch before they hit retail! angry hihi


So you have yours? zombie


You are TOO kind! lol I wish I was somebody! cry Maybe I should start making albums and doing concerts so people can get to know me ? ? ? ? hmmm.....
odecahedron
isnt that what youtube is for?

oh wait
construct09
OZ distributor?
odecahedron
http://www.musoscorner.com.au/site/index.cfm?prodname=Arturia-Mini-Bru te-Analogue-Synth---Pre-Order---NEW-for-2012&module=STORETIGERV2&pageM ode=indiv&productID=205679&cart_id=12D162BF-B51F-CE3F-D10220764A131195 &storepid=15
causticlogic
JohnLRice wrote:
MindMachine wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:
Probably all the high profile artists are pulling strings and scooping up the first batch before they hit retail! angry hihi


So you have yours? zombie


You are TOO kind! lol I wish I was somebody! cry Maybe I should start making albums and doing concerts so people can get to know me ? ? ? ? hmmm.....


odecahedron wrote:
isnt that what youtube is for?

oh wait


lol
Yeah, he's got to prove it to YouTube first!
odecahedron
i sent a feedback form message to the arturia website a couple weeks ago inquiring about the minibrute shipping status (from them to the distributors). got this back just now...


Quote:
We actually faced some last minute problems in the production of the Minibrute. We didn't want to compromise on quality so we have delay...

The first Minibrute units should be available on May 30th. Depending on the countries the shipping might take a few additional days.

Thank you for your understanding,
Denis


this may not mean much to those waiting who already know their distributor-quoted date has slipped, i prepaid for mine months ago yet somehow im still a little hesitant to place money on may 30th
L
Oh this is really a MUST HAVE!
litte... rude... BRUTE! And i like it ;-)
gwaidan
I'm still at 28/5 expected ship date from MF-fingers crossed they hold this one...
Sir Ruff
Since clearly no one knows when they are getting theirs at this point, maybe we can stop posting our supposed ship-dates until, you know, someone's actually ships? hmmm.....
odecahedron
sorry dad
z3r01
Not intending to bump this thread unnecessarily, but just saw this video of the minibrute with an eurorack system. Just what I have been hoping to see!

Bendu
That video makes me happy. I was wondering if the arpeggiator output CV/gate and now we all know the good news. applause
mhtones
Not sure if any other MF pre-orderers received the "2-week" email, but it said if you do not contact them within 2 weeks, you will be removed from the waiting list.

When I called to let them know I was still interested, they said that there was something about a California 3 month pre-order law (or some such thing) that states they can't keep people on a pre-order list for more than 3 months without them personally confirming that the orderer still wants to wait???

If you haven't contacted them recently, you may want to give them a call. Of course, if you're ahead of me on the MF pre-order list, don't bother calling... hihi
ThinLazy
I had to do the same thing. Something about holding a
a charge on your credit card. They told they expected to have
them the end of May.
jw112
I cant wait for mine
gwaidan
Yeah I had to do the same thing to remain on the list about a month ago...my place in the queue will have to be prised from my cold, dead hands.... hihi
astroschnautzer
Just ordered one. Got it in exchange for one days work, think it will be worth it...
gwaidan
Just got bumped to 7/6 too.... cry
odecahedron
gwaidan: did u order from muso cnr? (and have u already payed?)
gwaidan
Ordered from Guitar Center in the States in late Feb-was a 15% discount special at the time and the $A was at 1.07 so it will be costly if I exit the deal and decide to buy it later (and I did prepay).
Klaus
It's quite amazing, for many months and almost 40 pages of discussion, we still haven't got a straight answer regarding the possibility of clocking the arp??

Are the people in the know holding out to preserve the hype?
elektrokick
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the arp and lfos can be synced to incoming midi clock. I think it was Yves himself who wrote it. I'll see if I can dig up the link
radiokoala
Quote:
In addition, the arpeggiator is fully synchronizable with the MIDI input and with the LFO1 (using the clock switch), enabling perfect timing during your performance.

(link)
MrDys
I think the clocking arp question had to do with whether or not an external signal on the Gate In would trigger it.

I'm still interested in this question, as I have a lot of fun gate generators in modular form, and I prefer modular rhythms over straight clock divisions.
Sir Ruff
Klaus wrote:
Are the people in the know holding out to preserve the hype?


I bet they are. Aurturia are all about arp clock-in HYPE
Klaus
Yeah I meant CV clock in for the ARP, like on my beloved Poly61, MB lacking the feature would be a 100% dealbreaker for me.
Sir Ruff
Klaus wrote:
MB lacking the feature would be a 100% dealbreaker for me.


Ok.
jessem
Klaus wrote:
Yeah I meant CV clock in for the ARP, like on my beloved Poly61, MB lacking the feature would be a 100% dealbreaker for me.

I agree 100%. To skip this feature would be a tremendous facepalm.
drewtoothpaste
Wait, are some of you guys still waiting for your Mini Brute? I got mine months ago. It's really fun, sounds good.
stepwriterun
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Wait, are some of you guys still waiting for your Mini Brute? I got mine months ago. It's really fun, sounds good.



But is it Phat and full of techno?
mhtones
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Wait, are some of you guys still waiting for your Mini Brute? I got mine months ago. It's really fun, sounds good.


Hey Drew,
I think there's a design idea in here for a t-shirt.

I picture something like a skeleton sitting up against a wall with a cobwebbed sign reading mini brute pre-order line starts here...

Oh, and u gotta have people walking by carrying moog minitaurs
jw112
z3r01 wrote:
Not intending to bump this thread unnecessarily, but just saw this video of the minibrute with an eurorack system. Just what I have been hoping to see!




I had not seen this yet. Awesome!!
Hosaka
Preordered it today... Can hardly wait! hyper

EDIT: I'm having a hard time finding a gigbag for its dimensions. Any suggestions? Mopho gigbag is close, but not deep enough and a little too wide.
noobyscooby
jw112 wrote:
z3r01 wrote:
Not intending to bump this thread unnecessarily, but just saw this video of the minibrute with an eurorack system. Just what I have been hoping to see!




I had not seen this yet. Awesome!!


Finally. Yes, this will be coming home with daddy now. You know, if they're ever available.

Apparently filling the preorders will be a slow process before they're available to everyone else.

"There are a lot of myths and legends about the release date and quantity of the MiniBrute, and I suspect there is a lack of communication on our side. The situation is that we received an unexpected huge amount of orders, so we are currently planning several production batchs to significantly raise the annual production. It is not a trivial task, a lot of economics parameters are involved, and we don't want to make any mistake nor to compromise on general quality."
gwaidan
Hmmm, I dunno who you're quoting but Arturia definitely said end of April to start with, so nothing legendary about that. Also surprised they didn't see foresee the order volumes coming, especially after 4 months worth of pre-release reviews and Youtube demos. confused

Still as long as the pre-orders don't slip further....
elektrokick
It's rumored to arrive at the big retailers tomorrow. I pre-ordered mine (@Musicians Friend) in late January so I'm hoping I'll get one from the first shipment screaming goo yo
Shadow84
How does the Minibrute compare to SH-101? Anyone who owns both?

Shadow
Sir Ruff
Shadow84 wrote:
How does the Minibrute compare to SH-101? Anyone who owns both?

Shadow

We all came to the agreement that the SH-101 sounds amazing and is worth twice the asking price of the Minibrute. Everyone who already bought a MB when they were released months ago has since sold it to get a 101.
Shadow84
Sir Ruff wrote:
Shadow84 wrote:
How does the Minibrute compare to SH-101? Anyone who owns both?

Shadow

We all came to the agreement that the SH-101 sounds amazing and is worth twice the asking price of the Minibrute. Everyone who already bought a MB when they were released months ago has since sold it to get a 101.


Thanks. I own a SH-101 and I also think it sounds amazing. I wanted to get another SH-101 but when Minibrute was released, I considered buying it. I am a bit scared of modern analogue synthesisers because most of the times they don't sound up to par with the vintage ones. Just to be clear I don't mean all modern analogue synths, for instance the reissue of Oberheim SEM sounds amazing. Anyway, I was thinking of getting Minibrute because it has a different filter than most modern monosynths and many features. Why can't they just make a new synthesiser that sounds as good as the old ones : / ? I got my SH-101 two years ago for £390. From time to time I keep seeing Sh-101s going for around £400 so there's no difference in price with the Minibrute.

Shadow
Rod Serling Fan Club
elektrokick wrote:
It's rumored to arrive at the big retailers tomorrow.


Rumored where. From what I've read, doing a quick search, musicians friend is telling people July now.
diophantine
Talked to my rep at Sweetwater yesterday - he said that they were still expecting the MiniBrutes to arrive today or tomorrow. (Or at least that they hadn't been informed of anything to the contrary.)
th0mas
Shadow84 wrote:
How does the Minibrute compare to SH-101? Anyone who owns both?

Shadow


This conversation hashed out on vintagesynth for quite awhile here:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=65935&start=195
Sir Ruff
th0mas wrote:
Shadow84 wrote:
How does the Minibrute compare to SH-101? Anyone who owns both?

Shadow


This conversation hashed out on vintagesynth for quite awhile here:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=65935&start=195


Uh... as it has here.
th0mas
Sir Ruff wrote:
th0mas wrote:
Shadow84 wrote:
How does the Minibrute compare to SH-101? Anyone who owns both?

Shadow


This conversation hashed out on vintagesynth for quite awhile here:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=65935&start=195


Uh... as it has here.


Oh shoot I must have killed myself while re-reading both threads.
Klaus
Here's to an idea. When discussing a piece of equipment, be it the El Capstan, the MB or whatever. If your post only concerns preorders/shipping/stock and the likes, mark it with some decided colour(red, blue??) My post regarding the Arpeggio a few pages back was made only after reading the entire 38 page thread. Kinda felt like a waste of time living in Denmark smile smile
jimtheswede
Here is an annoucement/update from the Arturia forum. Nice to get an status update from them. Here is what they say:

Dear MiniBrute enthusiasts,

It is May 30th and many are expecting MiniBrute units to show up at their favorite dealer or their doorstep.

Production is on, but unfortunately at a slow pace. The first units have left the factory and are on their way. But delivering all orders will take much more time than planned.

The truth is that the manufacturing process and the quality tests required more resources that what we planned for. As we cannot compromise, we have to live with scarce supply for a few weeks. But be assured that we are doing our best and working hard to deliver.

We can understand your frustration and apologize to those of you who have been waiting longer than planned. We know that you will be pleased with the final product though. We will try to communicate regularly to let you know the status.

Sincerely,

Arturia MiniBrute Team
gwaidan
Shadow84 wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
Shadow84 wrote:
How does the Minibrute compare to SH-101? Anyone who owns both?

Shadow

We all came to the agreement that the SH-101 sounds amazing and is worth twice the asking price of the Minibrute. Everyone who already bought a MB when they were released months ago has since sold it to get a 101.


Thanks. I own a SH-101 and I also think it sounds amazing. I wanted to get another SH-101 but when Minibrute was released, I considered buying it. I am a bit scared of modern analogue synthesisers because most of the times they don't sound up to par with the vintage ones. Just to be clear I don't mean all modern analogue synths, for instance the reissue of Oberheim SEM sounds amazing. Anyway, I was thinking of getting Minibrute because it has a different filter than most modern monosynths and many features. Why can't they just make a new synthesiser that sounds as good as the old ones : / ? I got my SH-101 two years ago for £390. From time to time I keep seeing Sh-101s going for around £400 so there's no difference in price with the Minibrute.

Shadow


Shadow, I think Sir Ruff was having a lend...

There are good reasons why most manufacturers don't want to compete with the secondhand market where synths are still selling for a fraction (in real terms) of their original prices-ie every attempt to reissue a clone of the Minimoog Model D failed, and the closest Moog Music themselves got (Voyager OS) was not a market success. The SEM was a straightforward design to begin with, Tom has wisely chosen to use modern parts, and even then it is being sold very cheaply for what it is. If you want a no-compromise modern recreation of vintaj, theres always the Micromac for UKP 1450....
natallica
Just got a call from my Sweetwater rep that they are hearing end of June or middle of July.

-- N
Shadow84
gwaidan wrote:
There are good reasons why most manufacturers don't want to compete with the secondhand market where synths are still selling for a fraction (in real terms) of their original prices-ie every attempt to reissue a clone of the Minimoog Model D failed, and the closest Moog Music themselves got (Voyager OS) was not a market success. The SEM was a straightforward design to begin with, Tom has wisely chosen to use modern parts, and even then it is being sold very cheaply for what it is. If you want a no-compromise modern recreation of vintaj, theres always the Micromac for UKP 1450....


Hi Gwaidan, I see what you mean and I agree with you. Just wondering, do you own a Minibrute? It seemed like a good option for the price and features. I was intending to buy a second monosynth with keyboard and I kind of didn't want to get a second SH-101. I mean the Minibrute has still many practical advantages like its small size, CV/Gate ins & outs etc. Because of its size you can easily have say two of them for live situations. There are also the Analogue Solutions monosynth keyboards but these are more expensive and also bigger than SH-101 and Minibrute I think?. Sometimes it just feels good to buy modern gear because you won't have to worry about getting fixed every two years.

Shadow
James Mandible
Shadow84 wrote:
Just wondering, do you own a Minibrute?


No one owns a Minibrute.
mckenic
Hey Shadow!

The Mini is not available to the masses yet. There seems to have been a few review units shipped out and some folks have played with 'em but you and me cant get our hands on one yet.

Im waiting until its the equivalent to $500 here in Europe before I buy one - or until the initial frenzy dies down and they show up used. I think it will be a good companion to my SH101 and I plan to use it as a midi-CV interface to my modular. As it has a different filter than the SH, I hope the two will complement each other quite well!
Shadow84
mckenic wrote:
The Mini is not available to the masses yet. There seems to have been a few review units shipped out and some folks have played with 'em but you and me cant get our hands on one yet.


Ah ok!

mckenic wrote:
I think it will be a good companion to my SH101 and I plan to use it as a midi-CV interface to my modular.


Yeah I also hoped for that, as they have different filters. It has many cool features. I'd like to hear what people here will have to say once they get their hands on it.

Shadow
mckenic
thumbs up

I hope they wont like 'em and sell me one!

Just kidding of course - I hope they are a HUGE success and Korg follows suit with something cool!
astroschnautzer
this is what arturia has to say about the release date: http://www.arturia.com/evolution/smf/index.php?topic=6275.0;topicseen# msg21239
newgreyarea
mckenic wrote:
thumbs up
I hope they are a HUGE success and Korg follows suit with something cool!


That's what I'm hoping for!! I'm loving this little Monotribe and would really like to see them drop an MS based synth. A reissue would be ace cuz I love the external input processing but really a simple monosynth or better yet, affordable poly would kill!!
gwaidan
Shadow84 wrote:
gwaidan wrote:
There are good reasons why most manufacturers don't want to compete with the secondhand market where synths are still selling for a fraction (in real terms) of their original prices-ie every attempt to reissue a clone of the Minimoog Model D failed, and the closest Moog Music themselves got (Voyager OS) was not a market success. The SEM was a straightforward design to begin with, Tom has wisely chosen to use modern parts, and even then it is being sold very cheaply for what it is. If you want a no-compromise modern recreation of vintaj, theres always the Micromac for UKP 1450....


Hi Gwaidan, I see what you mean and I agree with you. Just wondering, do you own a Minibrute? It seemed like a good option for the price and features. I was intending to buy a second monosynth with keyboard and I kind of didn't want to get a second SH-101. I mean the Minibrute has still many practical advantages like its small size, CV/Gate ins & outs etc. Because of its size you can easily have say two of them for live situations. There are also the Analogue Solutions monosynth keyboards but these are more expensive and also bigger than SH-101 and Minibrute I think?. Sometimes it just feels good to buy modern gear because you won't have to worry about getting fixed every two years.

Shadow


Not to mention the parts needed for the repair actually being available and affordable. To echo what's been said, I think the MB is very much a "modern" analogue in that it incorporates waveshaping techniques and a filter that really weren't on the mainstream menu back when the SH was being built. It should complement your SH-101 nicely. Looking forward to getting mine....
TestSetRadio
does anyone know EXACTLY what all gets sent via midi out? i know the keyboard and wheels, and not the knobs, but i wonder if the arpeggiator does?

i have a minibrute coming (someday whistlin' ) and whether or not the arp is a midi out feature affects a gear purchase between then and now.

very frustrating
Sir Ruff
TestSetRadio wrote:
does anyone know EXACTLY what all gets sent via midi out? i know the keyboard and wheels, and not the knobs, but i wonder if the arpeggiator does?

i have a minibrute coming (someday whistlin' ) and whether or not the arp is a midi out feature affects a gear purchase between then and now.

very frustrating


So... since obviously NO ONE here has one yet, why are you asking us? If this one feature is so crucial to your future gear purchases, why not just email the manufacturer directly? woah
The arpeggio feature comments are becoming even more grating than the "when is it arriving?" comments. Dead Banana
jimtheswede
TestSetRadio wrote:
does anyone know EXACTLY what all gets sent via midi out? i know the keyboard and wheels, and not the knobs, but i wonder if the arpeggiator does?

i have a minibrute coming (someday whistlin' ) and whether or not the arp is a midi out feature affects a gear purchase between then and now.

very frustrating


I know from a Youtube demo that it sends the arp via CV, not sure about Midi. It would be nice if they could post the manual on their website. Many questions would be answered!
nobl1v1on
Hey Yall,

The elektroids told me to get on over so here I am....

I have a preorder in for a Minibrute, but I feel like I am getting a snowjob everytime I ask for a shipping date. Anyone have any clues???

Cheers,
:lars
TestSetRadio
Sir Ruff wrote:

So... since obviously NO ONE here has one yet, why are you asking us? If this one feature is so crucial to your future gear purchases, why not just email the manufacturer directly? woah
The arpeggio feature comments are becoming even more grating than the "when is it arriving?" comments. Dead Banana


well, rather than sift through 41 pages of "gee, wtf is going on", i thought i would see if anyone had seen or heard any demos or info i haven't yet.

it's not "so crucial" to anything, i was only explaining why my curiosity sits so specifically in that angle of the MB. i know the MB has limited midi out features, which is no problem at all, but for some of my older hardware, an arpeggiator is nice to have around.

If i thought for a second that arturia had time to answer emails about a product that they are busting ass to get out to people, that's exactly what i would do. last time i checked, forums were places for discussions, i guess not.

next time i want to post in this thread, i'll be sure to double check with you first to see if it's ok... i'd hate to grate you.
mckenic
jimtheswede wrote:
Here is an annoucement/update from the Arturia forum. Nice to get an status update from them. Here is what they say:

Dear MiniBrute enthusiasts,

It is May 30th and many are expecting MiniBrute units to show up at their favorite dealer or their doorstep.

Production is on, but unfortunately at a slow pace. The first units have left the factory and are on their way. But delivering all orders will take much more time than planned.

The truth is that the manufacturing process and the quality tests required more resources that what we planned for. As we cannot compromise, we have to live with scarce supply for a few weeks. But be assured that we are doing our best and working hard to deliver.

We can understand your frustration and apologize to those of you who have been waiting longer than planned. We know that you will be pleased with the final product though. We will try to communicate regularly to let you know the status.

Sincerely,

Arturia MiniBrute Team
Sir Ruff
TestSetRadio wrote:
If i thought for a second that arturia had time to answer emails about a product that they are busting ass to get out to people, that's exactly what i would do.


That's very thoughtful of you. I agree you shouldn't bother any company you're about to give money to.

Quote:
next time i want to post in this thread, i'll be sure to double check with you first to see if it's ok... i'd hate to grate you.


Or... crazy idea... you could just read what's been posted.
ausgeno
I'm gonna jizz when I get my MB. applause
TestSetRadio
Sir Ruff wrote:

Or... crazy idea... you could just read what's been posted.


i have read this thread in pieces as it has happened, and no, there isn't an answer to my question. i'm not the all-seeing, all-knowing archive of everything that has been posted on the internet relating to this specific piece of equipment. i apologize.

Thanks jimtheswede for actually answering me instead of being rude for no good reason. this is what i was hoping, that someone had seen or heard something i hadn't.

there are quite a few demo units out and about, so who knows, maybe someone has had experience with it in regards to the midi out stuff.

sorry for wasting everyone's time with a totally legitimate question in an appropriate thread Mr. Green
odecahedron
Sir Ruff wrote:

The arpeggio feature comments are becoming even more grating than the "when is it arriving?" comments. Dead Banana


to avoid further grating, stop looking at the thread, jsut saying... very frustrating
th0mas
odecahedron wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:

The arpeggio feature comments are becoming even more grating than the "when is it arriving?" comments. Dead Banana


to avoid further grating, stop looking at the thread, jsut saying... very frustrating


Glad to see I'm not the only one who frequently provokes Ruff's outrage MY ASS IS BLEEDING
Sir Ruff
th0mas wrote:
odecahedron wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:

The arpeggio feature comments are becoming even more grating than the "when is it arriving?" comments. Dead Banana


to avoid further grating, stop looking at the thread, jsut saying... very frustrating


Glad to see I'm not the only one who frequently provokes Ruff's outrage MY ASS IS BLEEDING


Not sure what you mean Thomas--my comment to you earlier was merely pointing out that both threads have basically run their course as far as gleaning any new, useful info.
And it's not outrage--it's just a synth at the end of the day--just annoyance this thread has devolved into a repetition of stuff we covered 10-20 pages ago.
Bath House
Anyone know when this thing's coming out?
numbertalk
Anyone know if the arpeggiator will output midi?

(Sorry couldn't resist hihi Let's keep it going! 40 more pages!)
th0mas
Sir Ruff wrote:

Not sure what you mean Thomas--my comment to you earlier was merely pointing out that both threads have basically run their course as far as gleaning any new, useful info.
And it's not outrage--it's just a synth at the end of the day--just annoyance this thread has devolved into a repetition of stuff we covered 10-20 pages ago.


It's probably just my paranoia but I felt like every time we've interacted since I declined your offer for my tama techstars was less than pleasant, but maybe I only became sensitive to it after that.
jimtheswede
numbertalk wrote:
Anyone know if the arpeggiator will output midi?

(Sorry couldn't resist hihi Let's keep it going! 40 more pages!)


hihi thumbs up

Here is one demo on Youtube with Arp sending CV. I know I saw another hooked up to an Ody and some other synths, but can't find it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FV-RvrOowQo hihi
numbertalk
Excellent! That's the spirit. So here goes:

But does it output midi? Could anyone who has one please respond?

Dead Banana

jimtheswede wrote:
numbertalk wrote:
Anyone know if the arpeggiator will output midi?

(Sorry couldn't resist hihi Let's keep it going! 40 more pages!)


hihi thumbs up

Here is one demo on Youtube with Arp sending CV. I know I saw another hooked up to an Ody and some other synths, but can't find it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=FV-RvrOowQo hihi
Sir Ruff
th0mas wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:

Not sure what you mean Thomas--my comment to you earlier was merely pointing out that both threads have basically run their course as far as gleaning any new, useful info.
And it's not outrage--it's just a synth at the end of the day--just annoyance this thread has devolved into a repetition of stuff we covered 10-20 pages ago.


It's probably just my paranoia but I felt like every time we've interacted since I declined your offer for my tama techstars was less than pleasant, but maybe I only became sensitive to it after that.


hmmm... not deliberate if so! And I never belabor no-go deals (that was really for the best anyway: they would've been totally gratuitous thumbs up )
th0mas
Sir Ruff wrote:
th0mas wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:

Not sure what you mean Thomas--my comment to you earlier was merely pointing out that both threads have basically run their course as far as gleaning any new, useful info.
And it's not outrage--it's just a synth at the end of the day--just annoyance this thread has devolved into a repetition of stuff we covered 10-20 pages ago.


It's probably just my paranoia but I felt like every time we've interacted since I declined your offer for my tama techstars was less than pleasant, but maybe I only became sensitive to it after that.


hmmm... not deliberate if so! And I never belabor no-go deals (that was really for the best anyway: they would've been totally gratuitous thumbs up )


Guinness ftw!

so, back to the minibrute.. better than the sh-101, amirite? smile
Sir Ruff
th0mas wrote:
so, back to the minibrute.. better than the sh-101, amirite? smile


That's what I heard on the interweb! Mr. Green
numbertalk
Anyone have an opinion - should I get a MB or an SH-101? w00t

th0mas wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
th0mas wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:

Not sure what you mean Thomas--my comment to you earlier was merely pointing out that both threads have basically run their course as far as gleaning any new, useful info.
And it's not outrage--it's just a synth at the end of the day--just annoyance this thread has devolved into a repetition of stuff we covered 10-20 pages ago.


It's probably just my paranoia but I felt like every time we've interacted since I declined your offer for my tama techstars was less than pleasant, but maybe I only became sensitive to it after that.


hmmm... not deliberate if so! And I never belabor no-go deals (that was really for the best anyway: they would've been totally gratuitous thumbs up )


Guinness ftw!

so, back to the minibrute.. better than the sh-101, amirite? smile
construct09
You,re not content with 3 synthi As??? eek!
gwaidan
Hey looks like the Minibrute is available in Canada!!!!





hihi
Hosaka
You almost gave me hope. waah
astroschnautzer
gwaidan wrote:
Hey looks like the Minibrute is available in Canada!!!!





hihi
There seems to be atleast one in australia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dniJC-Q6cmc
jca
Yeah, I forget if I still want this or not. What was it again? Some sort of pan flute?
Hosaka
I don't know if it makes pan flute sounds. I think it was an e-piano and organ emulator, a competitor to Clavia Nord.
shaft9000
it is ...an analog pan flute with an enigmatic ARPEGGIATOR, no-fucking-less Dono-Kun Dance

(hides)
mhtones
shaft9000 wrote:
it is ...an analog pan flute with an enigmatic ARPEGGIATOR, no-fucking-less

Oooh, analog pan flute. Put me on the waiting list!
odecahedron
i fucking LOVE the flute patch on my jx3p, been slaying it alot lately hihi
r05c03
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dniJC-Q6cmc&feature=player_embedded#!
computer controlled
That guy looks like he belongs on Jersey Shore.
odecahedron
reaching
MrDys
Why do all the video demos so far refuse to show the arp? Was it not finished in the demo units they sent out?
Jason Brock
MrDys wrote:
Why do all the video demos so far refuse to show the arp? Was it not finished in the demo units they sent out?


I thought the one at the top of this page showed the arp.
www.youtube.com/watch?&v=FV-RvrOowQo
astroschnautzer
MrDys wrote:
Why do all the video demos so far refuse to show the arp? Was it not finished in the demo units they sent out?
I think I heard/read that the arp wasn't completly ready on the demo units, also pitch bend did not a whole octave on the demo units....
Low-Gain
guess i'm #18 or something on the list at sweetwater...
The first shipment got delayed a month. But in theory it should be shipped end of this month! Going to try to do a bunch of videos as soon as I get it.
*dances*
Hosaka
At end of the month? Where did 18th of June disappear cry

I bet preordering from a finnish store was a mistake, this backwood place is surely the last country in the list where they send a shipment. MY ASS IS BLEEDING
drewtoothpaste
My distributor says they aren't going to finish making them until January/February 2013 so most people should receive them in March or early April of next year.
Sir Ruff
drewtoothpaste wrote:
My distributor says they aren't going to finish making them until January/February 2013 so most people should receive them in March or early April of next year.


Are you in the southern or northern hemisphere? I heard it was different for both.
critical
Official from the Arturia forum:
Quote:
The first batch of units went out of the production line last week, as announced, but please understand they are still in transit and have not reached the dealers/customers yet.
Without hitting any major snag in transit, the first units should mostly likely start reaching US dealers in a couple weeks.
zedius
All the demos of this synth are employing delay. I've been wanting to get an inexpensive but nice sounding delay for some time, and I guess if I had one by the time I received my minibrute that would be pretty fun.

Does anyone own a Deluxe Memory Boy? I've read that you can use CV on the expression input, so I'm thinking that this would be a nice delay to go with the Minibrute.

If you have a Deluxe Memory Boy, and you are ordering a minibrute, can you tell me what sort of control the CV will offer? Or if you know of something else in the $200 range that has a nice sound and interesting control options, can you suggest something?

Hope this is not too off topic!
drewtoothpaste
This is what I heard:

Quote:
The Arturia MiniBrute synthesizers have been delayed and are expected to ship in April 2014, reaching consumers by the end of June 2014.
numbertalk
2014?

drewtoothpaste wrote:
This is what I heard:

Quote:
The Arturia MiniBrute synthesizers have been delayed and are expected to ship in April 2014, reaching consumers by the end of June 2014.
Suburban Bather
numbertalk wrote:
2014?

drewtoothpaste wrote:
This is what I heard:

Quote:
The Arturia MiniBrute synthesizers have been delayed and are expected to ship in April 2014, reaching consumers by the end of June 2014.
Damn!!!!! did practically the entire synth community pre-order a MB? If these roll off of an assembly line, how hard can it be to make a shit load more in just a few months?
sneak-thief
Trolling aside, you have to book an assembly line in advance - not to mention all the parts that you need. You can't simply say: "oh btw, I need another thousand of these" because the factory will be already booked for some other jobs.
critical
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astroschnautzer
critical wrote:
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He's just trolling, don't worry lol
critical
yeah the penny dropped. hihi
gwaidan
astroschnautzer wrote:
critical wrote:
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He's just trolling, don't worry lol


So unlike our Drew to be trolling... hihi
critical
I don't think this has been posted yet.. check how that filter screams. This thing is going to rule.

dopefiend
Cute girl.
She needs a manicure, tho...
Has been gnawing at her cuticles to much!
Christopher Winkels
drewtoothpaste wrote:
This is what I heard:

Quote:
The Arturia MiniBrute synthesizers have been delayed and are expected to ship in April 2014, reaching consumers by the end of June 2014.


lol
dzlvs8
It looks like all the beautiful people are getting it shipped to them first. I'm not sure if I want to kid nap her or her synthesizer more.
gwaidan
Probably a review unit like all the other vids so far-is there any evidence that anyone has received theirs yet.

On another note-seems that Youtube's auto-translate is even funnier with Russian synth videos than Japanese ones...
blz
I swear the auto translate feature creates some of the best nonsensical song lyrics ever
jw112
dzlvs8 wrote:
It looks like all the beautiful people are getting it shipped to them first. I'm not sure if I want to kid nap her or her synthesizer more.


HAHAHA lol
iamgoldman
blz wrote:
I swear the auto translate feature creates some of the best nonsensical song lyrics ever


This is how skinny puppy comes up with their lyrics it seems
zedius
Manual is up: http://www.arturia.net/downloads/minibrute/manual/MINIBRUTE_Manual_EN. pdf
radiokoala
Quote:
The MiniBrute can also control other analog devices. The Pitch
Out 1/8” jack provides the CV produced by the MiniBrute
keyboard as well as by the Pitch wheel. The keyboard’s GATE
signal is also available on the Gate Out 1/4” jack.


sad banana

don't see the "as well as by arpeggiator" line...
Sir Ruff
zedius wrote:
Manual is up: http://www.arturia.net/downloads/minibrute/manual/MINIBRUTE_Manual_EN. pdf


And still no definite indication of the Arp feeding the cv/gate out! (though it looks unlikely).

I'll have to cancel my pre-order if it doesn't Dead Banana zombie d'oh! meh hmmm..... seriously, i just don't get it
zedius
I believe this was already posted, though probably a few dozen pages ago. Does this not show the arpeggiator outputting cv? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV-RvrOowQo
th0mas
Sir Ruff wrote:
zedius wrote:
Manual is up: http://www.arturia.net/downloads/minibrute/manual/MINIBRUTE_Manual_EN. pdf


And still no definite indication of the Arp feeding the cv/gate out! (though it looks unlikely).

I'll have to cancel my pre-order if it doesn't Dead Banana zombie d'oh! meh hmmm..... seriously, i just don't get it


Block diagram on page 29 suggests arpeggiator does not control cv/gate output. But then again.. the block diagram doesn't mention USB/MIDI either (although maybe it just is considered "keyboard input"). confused

edit: but yeah that video shows arp outputting cv, i think we good
zedius
I see that in the block diagram, but again, the proof is in the video is it not? Is there a module there that could be acting as an external arpeggio being controlled by a single CV pitch?


Edit: No he is definitely controlling tempo and other arp parameters on his minibrute. I think they messed up the block diagram.
Sir Ruff
Whatever anyone does, DON'T email the manufacturer!!!
radiokoala
Sir Ruff wrote:
zedius wrote:
Manual is up: http://www.arturia.net/downloads/minibrute/manual/MINIBRUTE_Manual_EN. pdf


And still no definite indication of the Arp feeding the cv/gate out! (though it looks unlikely).

I'll have to cancel my pre-order if it doesn't Dead Banana zombie d'oh! meh hmmm..... seriously, i just don't get it

No, I don't think you would have to.

Either way, they claim that

MiniBrute will also transform the USB and MIDI incoming signals into CV Pitch Out and Gate Out, making it a great converter to control vintage synths from your computer or MIDI interface.

therefore even if arp itself doesn't control cv/gate, you could just plug minibrute's midi out to its own midi in and it will convert incoming MIDI to CV hihi
numbertalk
This is the name of the video:

Arturia MiniBrute Arpeggiator as CV/Gate controller for two Doepfer A-110 VCOs

I don't see a Midi-To-CV converter hooked up between the MB & the modular. Even worst case, you could get a Kenton converter (something good to have anyway) and use that.
The ParkAndThePeople
I just had a email from Thomann.de where I pre-ordered my Minibrute in February. They're expecting the first shipment on July 18. *Sigh*
astroschnautzer
The video definitely seems to do arpeggios with outboard oscillators, so I think arturia got the block diagram wrong.... seriously, i just don't get it
werock
44 pages and still no synth!
FlameTop
I was in my local dealer (UK) this morning and asked them to check any shipping status. Bad news was 'no news'.
odecahedron
the manual alludes to the ability of the arpeggiator to do "time-sorted" step sequencing (in hold) - although this mode is not default ("pitch-sorted" is) , and seems to require a software connection to engage it.

really hoping this software will flash the actual synth firmware to keep this mode default...
r05c03
The manual is up the Arturia site.
drewtoothpaste
Quote:
We expect customers to begin receiving their Arturia Minibrute units in October 2014, with the last of the preorders being delivered by January 31, 2015.
numbertalk
Good lord!
jimtheswede
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
We expect customers to begin receiving their Arturia Minibrute units in October 2014, with the last of the preorders being delivered by January 31, 2015.


Then don't buy one dude.

I preordered in Feb. and expect mine 6-18-12. waah
whitewulfe
On the flipside, it having been delayed a few months has made it's now estimated release in a time frame where I'll actually have money to pick one up ^_^
steampoweredsequencer
WHY THE FUCK IS IT ONLY 25 KEYS?! Is 37 sooo much more expensive?!
odecahedron
ps: i believe it was supposed to be a compact unit - 37 wouldnt enable u to fit it inside your tote bag whilst stylishly running from ur bedroom to the gig hihi
whitewulfe
odecahedron wrote:
ps: i believe it was supposed to be a compact unit - 37 wouldnt enable u to fit it inside your tote bag whilst stylishly running from ur bedroom to the gig hihi


Eh, awkwardness just makes it kinkier... or something.
odecahedron
that was jsut a sarcastic jabb at the absolutely terrible promo video they had up a few months ago
construct09
Think I,ll wait for rev2 the way this threads panning out...
th0mas
construct09 wrote:
Think I,ll wait for rev2 the way this threads panning out...

Yes because it's best to make gear decisions based on what a ton of people without the synth say about it.
drewtoothpaste
Quote:
Customers who preordered the MiniBrute in February will begin to receive their units in May 2015. All customers who ordered in March or later will begin to receive their units in August 2015.
theabsent
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
Customers who preordered the MiniBrute in February will begin to receive their units in May 2015. All customers who ordered in March or later will begin to receive their units in August 2015.


Source? Just because I don't know whether you are kidding or not.
th0mas
theabsent wrote:
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
Customers who preordered the MiniBrute in February will begin to receive their units in May 2015. All customers who ordered in March or later will begin to receive their units in August 2015.


Source? Just because I don't know whether you are kidding or not.


I emailed the manufacturer about this and they said drewtoothpaste is a jerk hihi
Christopher Winkels
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
Customers who preordered the MiniBrute in February will begin to receive their units in May 2015. All customers who ordered in March or later will begin to receive their units in August 2015.


Yes, but the oscillators won't be released until February 2016 and if all goes according to plan the VCA circuitry is on track for Q2 of 2017. You neglected to leave out that salient point.
jimtheswede
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
Customers who preordered the MiniBrute in February will begin to receive their units in May 2015. All customers who ordered in March or later will begin to receive their units in August 2015.


There is no point posting this. The guy should be banned IMO.
MrDys
Aww drew's just having fun.
numbertalk
You gotta admit this thread has gotten absurd. At this point not such a big deal having some fun.
drewtoothpaste
jimtheswede wrote:
There is no point posting this. The guy should be banned IMO.


SHHHH LITTLE GUY. (PATS U ON THE HEAD) SHHHH
gwaidan
steampoweredsequencer wrote:
WHY THE FUCK IS IT ONLY 25 KEYS?! Is 37 sooo much more expensive?!


Obvious from the marketing it's being aimed at the young folks who will see it as an upgrade to the 25-key performance controller they already use for their laptop, not people who want to do Minimoog solos on the cheap...
odecahedron
humor deficiency ITT. i expect it will get go supersaiyan when it actually gets released ... in 2096
machetemirage
They've delayed shipping to work on the microbrute, a 10 key playable square wave oscillator, priced at a reasonable $200.
shaft9000
hihi
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.
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gettin dat Dubstep button to come correct take time yo
steampoweredsequencer
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
Customers who preordered the MiniBrute in February will begin to receive their units in May 2015. All customers who ordered in March or later will begin to receive their units in August 2015.

So Chimera works for Arturia now?!
zedius
Speaking of dubstep, the manual is pretty funny. Wompwompwompwomp
elektrokick
Haha, you're right,

From the LFO section: "Be cautious, you've just entered the Dubstep realm..." hihi
gwaidan
machetemirage wrote:
They've delayed shipping to work on the microbrute, a 10 key playable square wave oscillator, priced at a reasonable $200.


EML are gonna sue their asses... hihi

loydb
So, after cancelling my initial preorder to move across the country, it looks like I'll be moved before it comes out! And we sold our current house, so I can actually afford it. Gotta love shipping delays applause
prinsen
You sold your house so you can afford a Minibrute?
You need help. lol
rico loverde
jimtheswede wrote:
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
Customers who preordered the MiniBrute in February will begin to receive their units in May 2015. All customers who ordered in March or later will begin to receive their units in August 2015.


There is no point posting this. The guy should be banned IMO.
i love how people new to the forum think people who have been here and contributed for years should be banned. obviously you don't know drews humor.
jimtheswede
rico loverde wrote:
jimtheswede wrote:
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
Customers who preordered the MiniBrute in February will begin to receive their units in May 2015. All customers who ordered in March or later will begin to receive their units in August 2015.


There is no point posting this. The guy should be banned IMO.
i love how people new to the forum think people who have been here and contributed for years should be banned. obviously you don't know drews humor.


No, obviously I don't understand the "humor". Sorry if I assumed that his post was supposed to be from Arturia (which it isn't). I really don't see any "contribution" towards providing info. on the synth. I'll look forward to a shipping date of 6-18-12 of my preorder. Yes, I am new to the forum (more of a lurker), but with these kind of comments, I don't think I'll try to "contribute" further.
rico loverde
jimtheswede wrote:
rico loverde wrote:
jimtheswede wrote:
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
Customers who preordered the MiniBrute in February will begin to receive their units in May 2015. All customers who ordered in March or later will begin to receive their units in August 2015.


There is no point posting this. The guy should be banned IMO.
i love how people new to the forum think people who have been here and contributed for years should be banned. obviously you don't know drews humor.


No, obviously I don't understand the "humor". Sorry if I assumed that his post was supposed to be from Arturia (which it isn't). I really don't see any "contribution" towards providing info. on the synth. I'll look forward to a shipping date of 6-18-12 of my preorder. Yes, I am new to the forum (more of a lurker), but with these kind of comments, I don't think I'll try to "contribute" further.
sorry if I upset you, i just found it weird you would think someone should be banned that is a long time member around here and HAS contributed to many threads for joking around a little. please do contribute, but saying people should be banned for joking just seems a little too serious IMO. this place is full of smartasses and jokesters and thats what makes it special and unique.
r05c03
Oh noes! Some one got offended on the interwebs!
drewtoothpaste
Quote:
Good news! Customers who preordered the Arturia MiniBrute in winter/spring 2012 will begin to receive their completed units in September 2017. We hope you enjoy the changes we've made, including a revamped 11-key keyboard, elimination of all knobs/sliders, and moving the synth engine out of hardware into a VST (currently working on Windows 98 only, though we hope to add XP by 2019.)
astroschnautzer
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
Good news! Customers who preordered the Arturia MiniBrute in winter/spring 2012 will begin to receive their completed units in September 2017. We hope you enjoy the changes we've made, including a revamped 11-key keyboard, elimination of all knobs/sliders, and moving the synth engine out of hardware into a VST (currently working on Windows 98 only, though we hope to add XP by 2019.)
Seriously, no osx!!??? MY ASS IS BLEEDING MY ASS IS BLEEDING evil evil
L
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
Good news! Customers who preordered the Arturia MiniBrute in winter/spring 2012 will begin to receive their completed units in September 2017. We hope you enjoy the changes we've made, including a revamped 11-key keyboard, elimination of all knobs/sliders, and moving the synth engine out of hardware into a VST (currently working on Windows 98 only, though we hope to add XP by 2019.)



Ahahhahahaah that's great Dead Banana
pricklyrobot
I just hope it has a SCSI Zip drive option.
gwaidan
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
Good news! Customers who preordered the Arturia MiniBrute in winter/spring 2012 will begin to receive their completed units in September 2017. We hope you enjoy the changes we've made, including a revamped 11-key keyboard, elimination of all knobs/sliders, and moving the synth engine out of hardware into a VST (currently working on Windows 98 only, though we hope to add XP by 2019.)


Dammit, why won't it support Mac OS 9? There's a conspiracy to force us all to upgrade or something, I swear. I blame John Sculley.
jimtheswede
rico loverde wrote:
jimtheswede wrote:
rico loverde wrote:
jimtheswede wrote:
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
Customers who preordered the MiniBrute in February will begin to receive their units in May 2015. All customers who ordered in March or later will begin to receive their units in August 2015.


There is no point posting this. The guy should be banned IMO.
i love how people new to the forum think people who have been here and contributed for years should be banned. obviously you don't know drews humor.


No, obviously I don't understand the "humor". Sorry if I assumed that his post was supposed to be from Arturia (which it isn't). I really don't see any "contribution" towards providing info. on the synth. I'll look forward to a shipping date of 6-18-12 of my preorder. Yes, I am new to the forum (more of a lurker), but with these kind of comments, I don't think I'll try to "contribute" further.
sorry if I upset you, i just found it weird you would think someone should be banned that is a long time member around here and HAS contributed to many threads for joking around a little. please do contribute, but saying people should be banned for joking just seems a little too serious IMO. this place is full of smartasses and jokesters and thats what makes it special and unique.


Yeah Rico, I agree that my comment regarding a ban is extreme. Guess I was just tired of all the negative posts regarding a synth that has had good reviews by the few people who have actually played one. Yes, it has been delayed, and the reasons have been stated on the Arturia forum site. Arturia could have provided more info. and updates, and uploaded the manual sooner, etc. Hopefully, that would have reduced some of the negative posts.

From a post today on the Arturia forum, apparently someone did get one. He was complaining about the lack of presets!!! OMG. eek!
zedius
That guy is one of the biggest moaners on that forum. I believe he actually said he cancelled his preorder and wouldn’t be posting on there anymore. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t actually have one :p

Edit: I should be clear: I am talking about the guy on the Arturia forum, not Drew. I wouldn't dare call Drew a moaner. He might crush me like an American burger.
Sir Ruff
Every release date that has been posted thus far has been fake.
rico loverde
jimtheswede wrote:
Yeah Rico, I agree that my comment regarding a ban is extreme. Guess I was just tired of all the negative posts regarding a synth that has had good reviews by the few people who have actually played one. Yes, it has been delayed, and the reasons have been stated on the Arturia forum site. Arturia could have provided more info. and updates, and uploaded the manual sooner, etc. Hopefully, that would have reduced some of the negative posts.

From a post today on the Arturia forum, apparently someone did get one. He was complaining about the lack of presets!!! OMG. eek!
it's all good man, I've def had my share of angry post. Hopefully u get your minibrute soon! The guy who bitched about lack of presets is just too silly. I can't believe he was serious.
jimtheswede
zedius
Hey Rico,
I think I just went off cause of the smart-ass post and maybe 5-6 beers. Thanks for the comments. And yeah the dude who posted on the Arturia site probably hasn't even gotten one (if he even ordered one), and is totally clueless. This is the internet! Anyway, I will chill and let "drew" post his "humor" without comment. BTW - I've noticed his postings on a few other forums, and they contain the same sarcastic useless posts. Oh well......

PS - I thought I sent this as a PM! Apparently not.
Hosaka
jimtheswede wrote:
From a post today on the Arturia forum, apparently someone did get one. He was complaining about the lack of presets!!! OMG. eek!


Yes! Haha, made my day. MY ASS IS BLEEDING He was going rampage on the forum before and told he cancelled his pre-order for Nord Lead IIRC.

Can't wait to get mine. I think about it every day.
wavecircle
drewtoothpaste wrote:
Quote:
Good news! Customers who preordered the Arturia MiniBrute in winter/spring 2012 will begin to receive their completed units in September 2017. We hope you enjoy the changes we've made, including a revamped 11-key keyboard, elimination of all knobs/sliders, and moving the synth engine out of hardware into a VST (currently working on Windows 98 only, though we hope to add XP by 2019.)


You sure this wasn't on the Cyndustries page? Dead Banana
drewtoothpaste
jimtheswede wrote:
I'm sorry for saying weird stuff in this thread about that "drew" guy, I was having a bad day (lost 2 of my fave My Little Ponies) and I got a bunch of poop on my underwear, and then my mom over heated my f----ing Spaghetto's and it burned my mouth. So I'm sorry for being mean online.


Apology accepted. It takes a big heart to admit you were wrong.
odecahedron
aside from all the date-bashing, uber sarcastic jibes (a major reason for returning to this thread so often lol ) and ppl getting all beside themselves about what a forum should and shouldnt be... its clear that the anticipation is exponential... and will continue as the actual release gets closer

someone said it a page or two back, and i too am really really looking forward to noodling with it, until that day all i have is this thread and its emotional ups and downs to tie me over.

drews post a re crack-up, i commend all who take his bait... its the little things like htis that get me thru the working hours
odecahedron
on the srious: interesting that the designer Yves is a MU guru , yet the cv/gate out jacks are 1/8" - seemes geared towards euro users. i guess there is more of them
jimtheswede
drewtoothpaste wrote:
jimtheswede wrote:
I'm sorry for saying weird stuff in this thread about that "drew" guy, I was having a bad day (lost 2 of my fave My Little Ponies) and I got a bunch of poop on my underwear, and then my mom over heated my f----ing Spaghetto's and it burned my mouth. So I'm sorry for being mean online.


Apology accepted. It takes a big heart to admit you were wrong.


I'm very relieved there is an "ignore" option. Someone making a posting that was not sent from me....too much.

Keep your "contributions" to the forum coming. I hope the "ignore" option works. BTW - there was no apology to "drew" - it was to Rico and other forum members who deserved it.
GrobbingThistle
jimtheswede wrote:
drewtoothpaste wrote:
jimtheswede wrote:
I'm sorry for saying weird stuff in this thread about that "drew" guy, I was having a bad day (lost 2 of my fave My Little Ponies) and I got a bunch of poop on my underwear, and then my mom over heated my f----ing Spaghetto's and it burned my mouth. So I'm sorry for being mean online.


Apology accepted. It takes a big heart to admit you were wrong.


I'm very relieved there is an "ignore" option. Someone making a posting that was not sent from me....too much.

Keep your "contributions" to the forum coming. I hope the "ignore" option works. BTW - there was no apology to "drew" - it was to Rico and other forum members who deserved it.


I think you're taking the internet too seriously. MY ASS IS BLEEDING
odecahedron
2nded
Stab Frenzy
jimtheswede wrote:
Anyway, I will chill and let "drew" post his "humor" without comment.

drew wrote:
"humor"

jimtheswede wrote:
"comment"
r05c03
How has some one so thin skinned survived the interwebs?
drewtoothpaste
r05c03 wrote:
How has some one so thin skinned survived the interwebs?


He's just hanging out until the Arturia Minibrute Analog Synthesizer gets released in April 2024 (according to my sources.)
b3nsf
drew, make a rap song about the release dates for vaporware-ish items and the people that devote love to these never to be seen things... hihi
TestSetRadio
odecahedron wrote:
on the srious: interesting that the designer Yves is a MU guru , yet the cv/gate out jacks are 1/8" - seemes geared towards euro users. i guess there is more of them


think of the size the back panels would have to be if it were 1/4 inch for all those I/O jacks. I'm sure the euro market has a sway, but having a PCB big enough to support those bulky (and deep) jacks would have maker the rest of the design difficult to implement as it is.

I bet there wouldn't even be room for banana jacks. who knows, since no one has seen one yet smile
Muff Wiggler
haha that guy was sending me all sorts of nasty PMs swearing that drew 'hacked' his account and posting things that he never said.

i tried to explain to him how the internet works (although he's apparently been using "bbs and forums since 1994") but rather than read my explanation he got super condescending and rude so I've banned his ass

what a fucking idiot.
radiokoala
Muff Wiggler wrote:
haha that guy was sending me all sorts of nasty PMs swearing that drew 'hacked' his account and posting things that he never said.

i tried to explain to him how the internet works (although he's apparently been using "bbs and forums since 1994") but rather than read my explanation he got super condescending and rude so I've banned his ass

what a fucking idiot.

May I ask you to change the text above my avatar to "bbs and forums since 1994", please? The thing is fucking hilarious, I want to support the new mem lol
Christopher Winkels
I wish to apologize to Drew for all those times I cursed his name for making me spew hot coffee after reading one of his posts.
TestSetRadio
I come and go from the forum world, and I always laugh when people wear those kinds of badges of honor. congrats duder, you haven't had shit else to do in the real world for 18 years.


looks like he'll have some time on his hands now...





so, has anyone heard anything more about the arpeggiator on the minibrute? it'd sure be nice if they'd post the manual and ship those things out.

(calm yourself forum sphincters, I'm kidding.) It's motherfucking bacon yo
burnn_out!
Well now that I sold my sh101, I can now look forward to acquiring one of these. Hopefully I can still get a preorder in before the release date of April 2024 razz hihi
odecahedron
TestSetRadio wrote:

so, has anyone heard anything more about the arpeggiator on the minibrute? it'd sure be nice if they'd post the manual and ship those things out.



ive scoured the arpeggiator section in the manual (which is indeed up - check the link a page or so back) - tho nothing really more about it that hasnt already been demonstrated in a video. apparently they allude to software that can be used in conjunction to access/alter arpeggiator parameters that are not dire tly available on the front panel... like the TIME vs PITCH ordering preferences... altho the URL they've printed in the manual about this software is either not yet up or a deadlink... add another dimension to the ambiguity.

I JUST WANNA FUCKING PLAY IT ALREADY razz

tell some more jokes Drew
mhtones
Wow, been away from this thread for only a little while. Missed all the excitement. seriously, i just don't get it Hey Muff, thanks for ending that. Yea! Banned!

Drew's an awesome guy and wiggler. Always love his contributions to the forum, his T-shirts and his music. thumbs up

But, damn 2024! Man, I might be able to use my social security checks to buy it. j/k, i'm not quite that old...not quite. and yes, i do not believe that ss will be around by the time i'm eligible. zombie
zedius
Bad news guys! I'm seeing it from non-Drew sources! lol

iamgoldman
this song is about the minibrute
chorus7
Long and Mcquade in Canada just got conformation that they will be in the warehouse in Toronto ready to ship to stores August 1st...
whitewulfe
chorus7 wrote:
Long and Mcquade in Canada just got conformation that they will be in the warehouse in Toronto ready to ship to stores August 1st...


....Ouch. Any word on how the pricing will be? Here's hoping for not too much of a premium for being in Canada (and more along how they seem to have most things more or less at the same price as our American counterparts)
Rod Serling Fan Club
I've heard that I might have mine in my hands before mining on near-earth astroids is succesful.
chorus7
Canadian price will be 549$ + taxes as far as I was told...(you'll be paying 5% taxes in Alberta and I'll be paying 18% in PEI very frustrating angry )
gwaidan
FWIW Musician's Friend have another 15% off a single item over $249 coupon deal running. Code is PS15
th0mas
whitewulfe wrote:
chorus7 wrote:
Long and Mcquade in Canada just got conformation that they will be in the warehouse in Toronto ready to ship to stores August 1st...


....Ouch. Any word on how the pricing will be? Here's hoping for not too much of a premium for being in Canada (and more along how they seem to have most things more or less at the same price as our American counterparts)


Moog told me specifically they were getting the "first units in canada". I wonder how much time they'll beat l&m by (if any)
Christopher Winkels
chorus7 wrote:
Canadian price will be 549$ + taxes as far as I was told...(you'll be paying 5% taxes in Alberta and I'll be paying 18% in PEI very frustrating angry )


You lot need to discover oil, then your tax rate would probably be 5% too. wink

Seriously though, even at around $650 all in it's still a cracking good deal.
whitewulfe
chorus7 wrote:
Canadian price will be 549$ + taxes as far as I was told...(you'll be paying 5% taxes in Alberta and I'll be paying 18% in PEI very frustrating angry )


Stupid taxes... But at least the base price is reasonable. So want to get one of these darn things in my hands!
pricklyrobot
gwaidan wrote:
FWIW Musician's Friend have another 15% off a single item over $249 coupon deal running. Code is PS15
Doesn't appear to work on the MiniBrute.

MF always seem to exclude a bunch of larger ticket items from their sales, but I can never find a list of which they are. You just have to put them in your cart and watch the coupon code fail. confused
pxlsndworlock
pricklyrobot wrote:
gwaidan wrote:
FWIW Musician's Friend have another 15% off a single item over $249 coupon deal running. Code is PS15
Doesn't appear to work on the MiniBrute.

MF always seem to exclude a bunch of larger ticket items from their sales, but I can never find a list of which they are. You just have to put them in your cart and watch the coupon code fail. confused

Here you go: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pages/4deals-exclusions?icid=200919
pricklyrobot
pxlsndworlock wrote:
pricklyrobot wrote:
gwaidan wrote:
FWIW Musician's Friend have another 15% off a single item over $249 coupon deal running. Code is PS15
Doesn't appear to work on the MiniBrute.

MF always seem to exclude a bunch of larger ticket items from their sales, but I can never find a list of which they are. You just have to put them in your cart and watch the coupon code fail. confused

Here you go: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pages/4deals-exclusions?icid=200919

Huh, so pretty much every manufacturer you've ever heard of is excluded. And could they possible have formatted that list in a less easy-to-read fashion? hihi

Oh well, pre-ordered mine from someplace else with a 15% Memorial Day coupon that did work and free shipping. So it's just down to $425 and some patience.
odecahedron
contemplating getting a refund and scooping some modules in my want list... its never good when my mind is left to wander about other shiney things this long
odecahedron
well, contemplation turned decision...

any Australian wigglers out there wanna scoop my pre-order for 80% of the paid price? (i paid $630 - you;d pay $499 AUD) i pre-ordered March 6th so i assume this means my order would be prioritized in the first batch to hit Aus, (sorry non-australians - prefer not to deal with intl. shipping)...

i know its getting close to shipping now but in the preceding 4 month wait, my care factor for this machine has evaporated (but thats just me) razz

PM if ur interested.

i need modules more than i need this thing.
gwaidan
pxlsndworlock wrote:
pricklyrobot wrote:
gwaidan wrote:
FWIW Musician's Friend have another 15% off a single item over $249 coupon deal running. Code is PS15
Doesn't appear to work on the MiniBrute.

MF always seem to exclude a bunch of larger ticket items from their sales, but I can never find a list of which they are. You just have to put them in your cart and watch the coupon code fail. confused

Here you go: http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pages/4deals-exclusions?icid=200919


Ouch. Would have been easier for them to publish a list of the manufacturers that were in the sale-probably would have been a quarter the size... Dead Banana

And odecahedron-I can relate. I would be in your shoes if I hadn't ordered from the US. Pity you can't get your money back, though... confused
ausgeno
odecahedron wrote:
well, contemplation turned decision...

any Australian wigglers out there wanna scoop my pre-order for 80% of the paid price? (i paid $630 - you;d pay $499 AUD) i pre-ordered March 6th so i assume this means my order would be prioritized in the first batch to hit Aus, (sorry non-australians - prefer not to deal with intl. shipping)...

i know its getting close to shipping now but in the preceding 4 month wait, my care factor for this machine has evaporated (but thats just me) razz

PM if ur interested.

i need modules more than i need this thing.


Heya odecahedron, that's a very tempting proposal. I have one preordered with Musicians Friend for $425 but would prefer to buy locally for obvious reasons and am considering cancelling my US preorder and taking you up on your offer. On the other hand, I can't shake the feeling that I'd be taking advantage of your bad luck and would accrue some bad karma as a result. Are you sure you'd be okay with taking such a hit on the price? Have you tried cancelling your preorder with the store and getting all your money back?
odecahedron
ausgeno wrote:


Heya odecahedron, that's a very tempting proposal. I have one preordered with Musicians Friend for $425 but would prefer to buy locally for obvious reasons and am considering cancelling my US preorder and taking you up on your offer. On the other hand, I can't shake the feeling that I'd be taking advantage of your bad luck and would accrue some bad karma as a result. Are you sure you'd be okay with taking such a hit on the price? Have you tried cancelling your preorder with the store and getting all your money back?


PMed
SourceDist
Hi All

Got an update on the MiniBrute ETA so thought we should share!

As you'll see from the Arturia site, MiniBrute is officially declared as "now shipping" - unfortunately for us folks in the UK (and of course other countries worldwide), the very first units are going out to the USA. Arturia have mentioned the following online already but it bears repeating, which is that the reason for this delay is that production is proceeding far slower than anticipated in China, so the initial stock is just not enough to fulfil all backorders - yet.

So we're still waiting for our first units here in the UK. At present we can't guess at an exact ETA and so for the moment are just waiting for the nod that units are shipping (or rather, flying) to us. Massive thanks go to all UK folks patiently waiting on their preorders. You rule, and I think you're going to be extremely happy with it!

I actually just posted an edited highlights of a quick jam on a prerelease MiniBrute (the one that went round for reviews) below. If you guys had any questions about its operation we'd be happy to answer them.

[s]http://soundcloud.com/sourcedist/arturia-minibrute-play-about[/s]

Cheers
Alex
jcn7
Wow, great demo! Like everyone else, I can't wait to get mine. This is the type of demo, I've been waiting to hear...really great stuff!
Klaus
SourceDist wrote:
If you guys had any questions about its operation we'd be happy to answer them.


WILL THE ARP ACCEPT CV CLOCK IN ? ? ? ! ! !
zedius
Software is up if anyone's curious to see it. I prefer the original look tbh, but I don't really care either way about the look :p
SourceDist
Klaus wrote:
WILL THE ARP ACCEPT CV CLOCK IN ? ? ? ! ! !


Afraid to say it won't. MiniBrute sends Pitch/Gate CV information when the Arpeggiator is running, so you could use MB as an analog arpeggiator source, but it isn't possible to advance MiniBrute's arpeggiator with a gate like you can on a Juno 60 for example. You'd have to physically modify the MiniBrute to add that. You can obviously sync the Arpeggiator to MIDI clock though.

I know it's not really what you wanted, but you can fire off the Envelopes with input gates/audio of course, and tap tempo the Arpeggiator to that gate source. But the Arpeggiator will only listen to its internal clock, MIDI or Tap Tempo for timing.

Thanks to Zedius's comment, I just updated the firmware on this MiniBrute and noticed they've added the thing I really wanted - now when you sync the LFO to Arpeggiator, there are (I count 5) sync'd-LFO-time clock divisions available with the rate knob. Nice!

New Soundcloud clip playing with that feature a little here:

[s]http://soundcloud.com/sourcedist/playing-with-minibrutes[/s]
SourceDist
numbertalk wrote:
Anyone know if the arpeggiator will output midi


At the moment, I'm afraid not, no. But, I just spoke to Arturia about this, and yes this is possible with a firmware update. I don't want to speak for them, but I think it's safe to assume this will come, but there is no date set for its implementation.
zedius
I reeeeally like the sound of that soundcloud you just posted, SourceDist. Even on my terrible work computer speakers. Thanks for posting it!

It's nice to hear the brute portraying some smooth bubbling aggression as opposed to gritty over the top rage.
SourceDist
Thanks Zedius - I'm really going to fight against the return of this demo unit... waah
zedius
Hey, this might just be me being weird, but you know what would be really funny is if you put on an Automatic Gainsay wig and beat him to the punch for his 4th video.
mark_snipz
Quote:
Afraid to say it won't. MiniBrute sends Pitch/Gate CV information when the Arpeggiator is running, so you could use MB as an analog arpeggiator source, but it isn't possible to advance MiniBrute's arpeggiator with a gate like you can on a Juno 60 for example. You'd have to physically modify the MiniBrute to add that.


Bummer, I was hoping external CV would clock the the arp.

So whats the mod?!?!
numbertalk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwuHJh3xLdc&sns=em
iamgoldman
Wish there was a way to save presets or something. not a very complicated device, but it would still be nice.
r05c03
Sounds. good.
gwaidan
iamgoldman wrote:
Wish there was a way to save presets or something. not a very complicated device, but it would still be nice.


Saving presets would require adding lotsa VCAs and pushing the price up...
Christopher Winkels
Every new sound snippet or video I see makes me think that for the price it's being offered at Arturia has hit one out of the park. I sure as hell don't need one, but it's probably I'll pick one as my "travelling" synth.

Of course in doing so I'll probably be faced with news the following week that they're releasing a "MaxiBrute" with two oscillators, hard sync, patch storage, and an extra octave of keyboard....
budz
I have a question for SourceDist if you have the time to check out and answer:

Does the arpeggiator and MIDI/CV conversion work with MIDI input? (i.e. can I use a bigger external keyboard for this instead of the built-in one) I'm assuming that the individual arpeggiator event gates are sent from the Gate output.
whitewulfe
Christopher Winkels wrote:
Of course in doing so I'll probably be faced with news the following week that they're releasing a "MaxiBrute" with two oscillators, hard sync, patch storage, and an extra octave of keyboard....


That would be the best rumour come true if it did!

Then again, I look at anything smaller than 61 keys and go "uh.... how the hell is that useable!?!?!?!" hmmm..... seriously, i just don't get it
gwaidan
If you can only use one hand per keyboard, of course it's usable! 8_)



On another note-my MF Minibrute order just got bumped again, to mid-August. First world problems, I know, but fuck me. Didn't realise Arturia had hired Cynthia as production manager....
SourceDist
iamgoldman wrote:
Wish there was a way to save presets or something. not a very complicated device, but it would still be nice.


A bundle of shiny patch card overlays are included with every MB! hihi

budz wrote:
Does the arpeggiator and MIDI/CV conversion work with MIDI input?


Will check that tomorrow!
ringstone
iamgoldman wrote:
Wish there was a way to save presets or something. not a very complicated device, but it would still be nice.


Have to disagree. Good to see a device where users are encouraged to create something for themselves. Otherwise 99% of them just end up using the lame factory presets.

Cheers
Blair
iamgoldman
ringstone wrote:
iamgoldman wrote:
Wish there was a way to save presets or something. not a very complicated device, but it would still be nice.


Have to disagree. Good to see a device where users are encouraged to create something for themselves. Otherwise 99% of them just end up using the lame factory presets.

Cheers
Blair


it's just a personal opinion really. I love my modular for the sake of being encouraged to create something new every time i start patching, but with other synths with patch storage, i love being able to get just the right sound, save it, and recall it anytime i wish. i guess i'm looking from a performance perspective, to which the advertisement for the minibrute (with the hipster dude on stage making club banging tunes) seemed to cater. not saying it's flawed or anything by not including such a feature. the lack thereof really does encourage hands-on creation and transformation.
Stab Frenzy
ringstone wrote:
iamgoldman wrote:
Wish there was a way to save presets or something. not a very complicated device, but it would still be nice.


Have to disagree. Good to see a device where users are encouraged to create something for themselves. Otherwise 99% of them just end up using the lame factory presets.

Cheers
Blair

I feel the same way. The Minibrute is such an incredibly simple synth that even someone with no experience will have it figured out pretty quickly, and having to patch it themselves will mean that people will actually listen to what they're doing and learn to make their own patches.

The first synth I ever used was a Juno 6 and I'm so glad it didn't have presets so I was forced to figure out what everything did, and worked out which sounds I liked.
thesnow
whitewulfe wrote:


That would be the best rumour come true if it did!

Then again, I look at anything smaller than 61 keys and go "uh.... how the hell is that useable!?!?!?!" hmmm..... seriously, i just don't get it


SourceDist
budz wrote:
Does the arpeggiator and MIDI/CV conversion work with MIDI input? (i.e. can I use a bigger external keyboard for this instead of the built-in one) I'm assuming that the individual arpeggiator event gates are sent from the Gate output.


Just tested this, and yes - the arpeggiator runs as normal both when receiving USB MIDI and also with hardwired 5-Pin-DIN MIDI, so you can use MB as a sound module w/external keyboard (or DAW sequencer etc).

I need to bust out a Moog to check that it's sending Gate events at the same time, but I'm fairly certain it will be (along with pitch info).
budz
Thanks for checking this, sounds great! Would be super if you could confirm about the gates. If only this thing was available now, I'd buy one right this second waah
astroschnautzer
Thomann seems to have a ETA date now for us EU boyz: 30.08.2012
SourceDist
Sonic State just posted his video review of the MiniBrute (this exact one I have next to me!) - in the last section you see him sending the arpeggiator out over CV to Eurorack here:



Will check this afternoon that it also sends Arp CV/Gate when triggered by external MIDI Keyb.
whitewulfe
thesnow wrote:


I never said it was impossible - I know for a fact that a number of people out there rock 25 key keyboards and throw one hell of a show... keyboards smaller than 61 keys just feel weird to me - probably because of so many years sitting down at a piano.
thesnow
whitewulfe wrote:
thesnow wrote:


I never said it was impossible - I know for a fact that a number of people out there rock 25 key keyboards and throw one hell of a show... keyboards smaller than 61 keys just feel weird to me - probably because of so many years sitting down at a piano.


I know, I was just kidding and being funny Guinness ftw! It was no offense! I wish I was at least able to do the basics on a keyboard! I love synths but lack any real chops on keyboards! I wish I could play piano! we're not worthy
thesnow
whitewulfe
thesnow wrote:
I know, I was just kidding and being funny Guinness ftw! It was no offense! I wish I was at least able to do the basics on a keyboard! I love synths but lack any real chops on keyboards! I wish I could play piano! we're not worthy


It's alright - I'm envious of people who can do some really neat things with synthesizers ^_^
10011001
I thought I'd be able to get one of these on the BST by now
SourceDist
budz wrote:
Would be super if you could confirm about the gates.


It works yes - externally sequenced MB does send arpeggio CV/Gate out.
Bendu
I got an email this morning: Sweetwater is shipping MiniBrutes to the folks that placed their orders in January. w00t
natallica
Yup. Just got my tracking number!

It's motherfucking bacon yo

-- N
Low-Gain
Same here... should be here thursday or friday. :-D w00t w00t w00t
numbertalk
Anyone who ordered from Musicians Friend hear from them yet? I pre-ordered mine from them immediately so I'm hoping no one else's has shipped already but not mine angry
budz
SourceDist - thanks for checking, sounds perfect. Can't wait till this thing is out thumbs up
drewtoothpaste
numbertalk wrote:
Anyone who ordered from Musicians Friend hear from them yet? I pre-ordered mine from them immediately so I'm hoping no one else's has shipped already but not mine angry


Nope, preordered/prepaid the day they were available (second week of January, I think) and haven't heard from MF this week yet. I'm betting they will ship this week if Sweetwater does.
Sir Ruff
drewtoothpaste wrote:
numbertalk wrote:
Anyone who ordered from Musicians Friend hear from them yet? I pre-ordered mine from them immediately so I'm hoping no one else's has shipped already but not mine angry


Nope, preordered/prepaid the day they were available (second week of January, I think) and haven't heard from MF this week yet. I'm betting they will ship this week if Sweetwater does.


I gave 'em a call today--they are "supposed" to be getting theirs in on July 5... But then she made some comment about the order time being pushed back to August, so who knows d'oh! Presumably, Thurs is the day though if SW have theirs already.
drewtoothpaste
Sir Ruff wrote:
I gave 'em a call today--they are "supposed" to be getting theirs in on July 5... But then she made some comment about the order time being pushed back to August, so who knows d'oh! Presumably, Thurs is the day though if SW have theirs already.


I got another backorder notification today, so who knows.
diophantine
The entire first batch went to Sweetwater. (At least this is what Sweetwater was told by Arturia.)
Low-Gain
WOOOOOooooOOOOO
abstraktor
Rockin' Banana!
we expect a full and detailed appraisal of course!
Sir Ruff
diophantine wrote:
The entire first batch went to Sweetwater. (At least this is what Sweetwater was told by Arturia.)


...cos that makes sense. What we get for saving an extra $25 or whatever it was from MF.
natallica
Just got mine.

Time to play...

nanners
Low-Gain
And the beauty of ordering from Sweetwater... 3 easy payments over 3 months. :-D
It's motherfucking bacon yo It's motherfucking bacon yo It's motherfucking bacon yo
numbertalk
Just got an email from MF saying it's still on backorder. Either they haven't gotten them or even thought I ordered in January wasn't part of the first shipment. Or else since I used a 15% off coupon they are hoping I'll cancel my order twisted
zedius
Sooo... for the folks who have theirs... did you order from Sweetwater?

I ordered from JRRshop.
Low-Gain
zedius wrote:
Sooo... for the folks who have theirs... did you order from Sweetwater?

I ordered from JRRshop.


Got mine from Sweetwater.
natallica
zedius wrote:
Sooo... for the folks who have theirs... did you order from Sweetwater?

I ordered from JRRshop.


Yup. Sweetwater.
Low-Gain
The guy you want to talk to at Sweetwater is Carson McClain..
ext 1302. He's the man! smile He'll get peeps set up for their next available shipment of Minibrutes.
James Mandible
Kinda regretting canceling that Sweetwater preorder now, d'oh!
radiokoala
James Mandible wrote:
Kinda regretting canceling that Sweetwater preorder now, d'oh!

...but you have a nice cat at your avatar Boat
Oldstench
Soooo...how you wigglers enjoying it?
renderful
Both of those demos(sonicstate and aussi ones) have me wanting to give away my money immediately.
Low-Gain
Dont judge me!!! LOL Dead Banana Dead Banana .. just dicking around after having it out of the box for 20 mins. This is also my first time using the Fat Controller. haha

I will say that the arpeggiator is kinda jacked.. Locks up, and doesn't change notes how you would expect.. It's like it forgets that it's monophonic and tries to keep remembering EVERY note you press.

iamgoldman
Low-Gain wrote:
Dont judge me!!! LOL Dead Banana Dead Banana .. just dicking around after having it out of the box for 20 mins. This is also my first time using the Fat Controller. haha

I will say that the arpeggiator is kinda jacked.. Locks up, and doesn't change notes how you would expect.. It's like it forgets that it's monophonic and tries to keep remembering EVERY note you press.



8_)
Low-Gain
More fun...
And more over compression from my camera.. sorry. >_<
iamgoldman
You're making me want a 909 more than a minibrute, sir
Low-Gain
pxlsndworlock
thumbs up
shaft9000
^^^^^^^^^DUDE your avatar totally grooves in sync to Logan's 1st viddy LOL ^^^^^^^^^^^
numbertalk
Great demos! You mind posting a clip demoing what you mean about the arp glitch?
noobyscooby
Nice to see you finally got a Fat Controller. I love mine, They're just set it and forget it. They work so well with everything.

Nice to see that the Minibrutes are out in the universe and in the hands of people. Was getting worried for a bit. I like the sound, it's nice to see a budget mono not trying to be like the others. It is very synthacony the filter (I have a Cyndustries one.)

I probably won't have money for one for another 6-12 months and hopefully they are quite commonplace by then and I haven't missed the boat. Maybe even in my city by then. Looking forward to firmware updates as well. Brand new for $500 USD or so. Wow. Can't wait.
deastman
I'm really digging the demos so far. I was way late on pre-ordering mine, so I figure I still have months of waiting ahead of me. Sigh...
mhtones
Edited... because MF came through. See post 2 below...
SourceDist
Low-Gain wrote:
I will say that the arpeggiator is kinda jacked.. Locks up, and doesn't change notes how you would expect.. It's like it forgets that it's monophonic and tries to keep remembering EVERY note you press.


That's odd - do you have hold mode enabled? I've found if you've got hold mode and are playing quick successions of notes, sometimes you'll just overlap slightly, which MB will assume was a two-note press and arpeggiate between both notes (that's hold mode for ya). But sticking it to Arpeggiator "On", and just holding down when you want a continual Arpeggiator should be better for that style of playing.

The other thing is please ensure you're on latest firmware - download the software editor for this - the key benefit is LFO sync time divisions too.

Cheers!
mhtones
Just got an email notification from Musician's Friend that they shipped out my Minibrute backorder! It's motherfucking bacon yo It's motherfucking bacon yo It's motherfucking bacon yo

Maybe there's an MF employee/wiggler who read my post above.

I just called MF to confirm and they stated they received the Minibrutes and are fulfilling back orders. It will ship out on Monday!

I hope this isn't a cruel cruel mistake..
CZ Rider
mhtones wrote:
Should have known better than to stray from sweetwater.... very frustrating very frustrating very frustrating

MF stands for more than Musician's Friend... angry They just told me I'm pushed back to August 10th.


Check your Email. Just got a notice at 7:00PM Saturday that my order has shipped. Probably won't be picked up by UPS till Monday afternoon, but it should arrive sometime this week. So looks like MF is only a few days later than Sweetwater. I ordered on 1/22 and got the discount with free shipping. $424.15 total. Up untill today my order page showed a ship date in August?
deastman
deastman wrote:
I'm really digging the demos so far. I was way late on pre-ordering mine, so I figure I still have months of waiting ahead of me. Sigh...

I stand corrected. Just got my shipping notice from MF! screaming goo yo
jcn7
Yep...just got my MF notice as well!
Rod Serling Fan Club
hmmm, maybe novamusik was a poor choice. I haven't heard anything from them and was told I was second or third in line.
James Mandible
sooooooo...

how long til some show up in the BST? twisted
anchovyd
Yeah me too. Just got a shipping notice from Guitar Center. I preordered it over Father's day with the discount. Can't wait.
CalvaryBand
Rod Serling Fan Club wrote:
hmmm, maybe novamusik was a poor choice. I haven't heard anything from them and was told I was second or third in line.


Yeah, I did the same thing. Probably a mistake. I should have went with Sweetwater as I've developed a better relationship with them over the years anyways but wanted to avoid sales tax. d'oh!
Lento_Zoom
I was told that I am #1 from novamusik. I spoke with them last week and they said they expected their shipment in mid july. hopefully that means we get ours soon. I'll bug em' again on Monday. I cannot wait for this thing. Was gonna plunk my tax return on an sh-101 then this came out...
numbertalk
Got a shipping notice from MF too w00t
sascha.victoria
James Mandible wrote:
sooooooo...

how long til some show up in the BST? twisted


Probably the same or less time as the Minitaur...
iamgoldman
James Mandible wrote:
sooooooo...

how long til some show up in the BST? twisted


Yeah. Help us gear vultures out.
vav
I havent heard thing one from Nova, i preordered back on January 20th...
r05c03
Yeah Vav, I preordered from Nova Musik too, in January too. I called them the other day. They have not received any yet. The guy I spoke with seems to think the larger distributors are getting them first.
Low-Gain
SourceDist wrote:
Low-Gain wrote:
I will say that the arpeggiator is kinda jacked.. Locks up, and doesn't change notes how you would expect.. It's like it forgets that it's monophonic and tries to keep remembering EVERY note you press.


That's odd - do you have hold mode enabled? I've found if you've got hold mode and are playing quick successions of notes, sometimes you'll just overlap slightly, which MB will assume was a two-note press and arpeggiate between both notes (that's hold mode for ya). But sticking it to Arpeggiator "On", and just holding down when you want a continual Arpeggiator should be better for that style of playing.

The other thing is please ensure you're on latest firmware - download the software editor for this - the key benefit is LFO sync time divisions too.

Cheers!


Oh good there's firmware updates!? excellent.

The arp works find in the "on" position. But when you switch to hold it's like it has infinit note memory and "locks" up on all the notes which at somepoint just sounds like shit.

I also can't seem to get the tap-tempo to work for crap.
I will shoot a video tonight to demonstrate.
Low-Gain
http://www.arturia.com/evolution/en/products/minibrute/resources.html
ausgeno
I just got my MF shipping notice too! I wonder how long it'll take to get to Australia. Now the waiting games begins. Or rather, continues... w00t
Knights Who Say Neve
Lento_Zoom wrote:
I was told that I am #1 from novamusik. I spoke with them last week and they said they expected their shipment in mid july. hopefully that means we get ours soon. I'll bug em' again on Monday. I cannot wait for this thing. Was gonna plunk my tax return on an sh-101 then this came out...


I preordered from Nova Musik also. I emailed them about this a few weeks ago and this is what they said:

"Only a few places are getting them and they are the "chain stores". They are only getting a few of them. The next shipment for the rest of us won't be til the end of July. The shipment after that won't be til September."

So I hope we're getting ours at the end of July, but we'll see...
critical
Another australian buyer here, got the shipping notice from MF today. Stoked to be in the first 90.. all thanks to Muffs for the heads-up back in January.
Here's hoping the rest of you guys won't have to wait too much longer.
ausgeno
Could a kind wiggler with the Minibrute please check the power supply for me and let me know if it's a universal 110-240v power supply?

If not, could you please let me know the details of the power supply so I can buy a local one in preparation for the arrival of my Minibrute?

Thank you! It's peanut butter jelly time!
natallica
Mine says 100-240V. You're in luck!

-- N
ausgeno
Happy days! Thanks for the quick reply natallica. love
flippantminister
wow... in the "surprises" department, someone just dumped a package on my desk at work. i wasn't expecting anything, i had no idea what it was. i open it- musician's friend has sent me a minibrute??? i was one of the first orders in january, but because of their weird supposed "you have to call us every however many days to stay on the waiting list" policy, i figured i was long since dumped. now i can't wait to get home and play this thing! too bad i have plans tonight... confused
Umcorps
Can I just take a little pause here to mention how much you new owners in the old colonies are pissing me off?

I mean, here I am, happy member of the European Union, putting my immediate, take my money now, pre-order in with a fucking French company for pity's sake and what happens?

They manage to make a handful of functional synths which are then sent in their entirety to the US of A on the first available Air France.

Who saw that coming?

Can someone tell me when it was the French started caring about what America thinks of them?

Not that I'm bitter, you understand.

Just asking.



cry
CalvaryBand
Umcorps wrote:
Can I just take a little pause here to mention how much you new owners in the old colonies are pissing me off?

I mean, here I am, happy member of the European Union, putting my immediate, take my money now, pre-order in with a fucking French company for pity's sake and what happens?

They manage to make a handful of functional synths which are then sent in their entirety to the US of A on the first available Air France.

Who saw that coming?

Can someone tell me when it was the French started caring about what America thinks of them?

Not that I'm bitter, you understand.

Just asking.



cry


I don't think it has anything to do with caring, I think the big companies in America (MF and Sweetwater) probably did some dealings to get as many as they could as soon as they could. $$$.
abstraktor
Bigger market in the US than poor cash starved EU.
Either that or they dislike Americans less than Brits. hihi
subcon
got mine today. ordered in january. hmmm. wow worth the wait.
twisted
gwaidan
Got shipping notification from MF today, which was a surprise-(re)ordered on 3rd Feb after the original order was cancelled when I forgot to verify the credit card d'oh! and expected ship date was showing as 17th Aug so was fully expecting to miss this batch.

Interesting to see how long it takes to get to Sydney....
drewtoothpaste
Now we wait to see who's first to post theirs in B/S/T....
James Mandible
So for folks who've gotten it, does it live up the hype sound wise? I've seen a lot of folks talking about the build quality but very few talking about how good it does or doesn't sound in person.
thesnow
picture of the minibrute with one of the included patch sheets on top would be nice too just for reference.
Sir Ruff
James Mandible wrote:
So for folks who've gotten it, does it live up the hype sound wise? I've seen a lot of folks talking about the build quality but very few talking about how good it does or doesn't sound in person.


I heard it's not as good as the SH-101.
Umcorps
Sir Ruff wrote:

I heard it's not as good as the SH-101.
applause
dan_p
abstraktor wrote:
Bigger market in the US than poor cash starved EU.
Either that or they dislike Americans less than Brits. hihi

Mr. Green
Yeah you know it

But then, everybody hates the English the most!
odecahedron
^ahaha - come down to the southern hemisphere and try and find people that agree with that.

pick ur stereotype: whinging pom, whining american, lazy aussie...dare i say it... tardy french! razz
ausgeno
Sir Ruff wrote:

I heard it's not as good as the SH-101.


Shots fired! Dead Banana
gwaidan
Sir Ruff wrote:
James Mandible wrote:
So for folks who've gotten it, does it live up the hype sound wise? I've seen a lot of folks talking about the build quality but very few talking about how good it does or doesn't sound in person.


I heard it's not as good as the SH-101.


Meet me outside in the carpark. Now! hihi
Sir Ruff
gwaidan wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
James Mandible wrote:
So for folks who've gotten it, does it live up the hype sound wise? I've seen a lot of folks talking about the build quality but very few talking about how good it does or doesn't sound in person.


I heard it's not as good as the SH-101.


Meet me outside in the carpark. Now! hihi

razz

When I heard this, I decided to sell mine. Even though it hasn't arrived yet.
gwaidan
Sir Ruff wrote:
gwaidan wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
James Mandible wrote:
So for folks who've gotten it, does it live up the hype sound wise? I've seen a lot of folks talking about the build quality but very few talking about how good it does or doesn't sound in person.


I heard it's not as good as the SH-101.


Meet me outside in the carpark. Now! hihi

razz

When I heard this, I decided to sell mine. Even though it hasn't arrived yet.


Hmmmm, horses for courses-I liked it cos it had a MIDI/CV interface built in, plus it was a modern design (waveshaping, sawtooth animation etc) I don't see that it ever intended to cover the same sonic territory as the SH101, but if that was what you were after, then fair enough.
Sir Ruff
gwaidan wrote:
Hmmmm, horses for courses-I liked it cos it had a MIDI/CV interface built in, plus it was a modern design (waveshaping, sawtooth animation etc) I don't see that it ever intended to cover the same sonic territory as the SH101, but if that was what you were after, then fair enough.


I never wanted an SH-101; I am just disappointed it's not as good as the SH-101.
numbertalk
I will only buy synths that are better than any other synth. These things are totally objective and precisely qualifiable, after all.
Sir Ruff
numbertalk wrote:
I will only buy synths that are better than any other synth.


Nail...head...hit.
Low-Gain
gwaidan wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
James Mandible wrote:
So for folks who've gotten it, does it live up the hype sound wise? I've seen a lot of folks talking about the build quality but very few talking about how good it does or doesn't sound in person.


I heard it's not as good as the SH-101.


Meet me outside in the carpark. Now! hihi


Quite honestly (as someone who has owned 5 sh-101's) I hope to see sh-101 prices/demands come down in price due to this synth. You dont get the analog sequencer, but you get midi=>cv, arp (cv/gate outs!) it's built a hell of a lot better, easier to find replacement parts, it has AMAZING sound possibilities.. I dont know if Arturia really knows how well they hit this one out of the park... Just think if they follow up w/ an Analog Poly!!?!?! woah woah \
I REALLY hope this sparks Roland and Korg to get their shit together and start kicking out some solid analog pieces.
ThinLazy
Mine's supposed to be coming today, yay!
mosaiclive
Expecting mine today too!
newgreyarea
I want to see it in action. If it's cool, I might scoop one before X-mas. Then I can get rid of my Kenton box. . . probably.
jcn7
Mine will be here this evening...looking forward to trying this puppy out! I've got a number of experiments to test out on it which includes interfacing it with a variety of modular/semi modular units...fun shall be had. It's peanut butter jelly time! It's peanut butter jelly time! It's peanut butter jelly time!
CZ Rider
Wow! Big thanks and great job to fellow wiggler Yves Usson. applause


With Yves teamed up with Arturia, this has to be the most fun little box I have played with in quite a while. An instant classic. Seems like they got everything right with real analog control knob movement. And digital on/offs with the keyboard, arp, and clock. Nice!
Plays really well with a Dotcom modular I have here. Running the audio out of the Dotcom through the Minibrute filter with gate and pitch patched into the modular. Nice little keyboard. Will be tough to seperate these two. So many options integrated into a modular system. Best $425 I spent in a while.
noobyscooby
Yep excited to get one of these but am so broke. Hopefully they make these suckers forever and have a method down that they can crank out a bunch. Six months from now seems far more feasible to order one up for me. Maybe some will even be in my town by then.
mckenic
Cool!

I want to spend $425 on one - but not €499 they are in Thomann - cant afford that. Hope some come up used in good condition and then I might be able to dip my toe in...
vav
c'mon Nova!!! very frustrating
drewtoothpaste
Got it today & opened it up. The aftertouch on the keyboard is really nice if you like to play a keyboard.

The architecture/layout reminds me of the old Roland SH keyboards, but the filter has a different character (it's 2-pole, right?) which means I won't feel stupid keeping this in addition to my sh-7 and sh-2.

Haven't hooked it up to midi yet, just played the keyboard with my human fingers.
vav
Nova says they should get theirs by the end of the month.
Oldstench
drewtoothpaste wrote:

Haven't hooked it up to midi yet, just played the keyboard with my human fingers.

Showoff.
noobyscooby
hihi
Rod Serling Fan Club
Nova told me they don't really know... Maybe this month but before the end of summer.
Lento_Zoom
d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
Seriously regretting going with nova. bigtime...

It would be pretty awesome if Arturia put out an iOS/android app that would allow you to plug your phone or tablet into the usb on the brute an access the off-board parameters that way. It would be a nice and cheap way to change the arp mode and aftertouch curve on the fly during a performance, or to be able to drive iOS midi apps without one of those midi adapters.


Now back to waiting.
CalvaryBand
vav wrote:
Nova says they should get theirs by the end of the month.


That seems to be their default answer. I have been asking since it was announced and they have said that about literally every month from then until now. I think I'm going to cancel my preorder and just pick one up used at some point.
VanEck
I called Nova two days ago. They said end of summer to me. Had my preorder in since mid January... growing impatient with their lack of good communication regarding this. I'm not sure how other places seem to be shipping units, while Nova is acting like they have no clue about anything.
r05c03
The only places I have heard about sending out units is MF and Sweetwater. Nova is small time compared to these guys. Give Nova a break. They are literally at the whim of Arturia....which kept us guessing about the release date for 4 fucking months. Motherfucking synthers in France do not even this kit....relax and go play with some of your other toys. Jeez.
anchovyd
Okay, just got mine delivered from Guitar Center a few hours ago. Gotta say that this thing sounds really great and is fun and easy to use. The metallizer really gets this thing sounding like it has two detuned oscs. The range of sounds you can get with the MBrute is really big.

The build quality is very solid on the level of DSI I'd say. The aftertouch has a lot of depth and feels great. In fact the only real downer about the MiniBrute is that the two octave keyboard feels really claustrophobic.

I think Arturia really have a hit on there hands. Dead easy to program, lots of fun to play with the aftertouch. Nobody mentioned this yet but you get these really neat plastic overlays with patches on them plus you get a handful of blanks for your own patches. I tried a few of the "presets" and they were okay but even these overlays are fun. It reminds me of the old Vectrex console.

The fact that this thing is 1:1 knob to function and less than 5 bills is amazing. I've got a bunch of these small mono synths and although you can get some more complicated sounds out of the Mopho or Evolver, the Minibrute is more fun. The Lil Phatty comes close but the great aftertouch on the MB is sweet.

anchovy4life
Rod Serling Fan Club
r05c03 wrote:
The only places I have heard about sending out units is MF and Sweetwater. Nova is small time compared to these guys. Give Nova a break. They are literally at the whim of Arturia....which kept us guessing about the release date for 4 fucking months. Motherfucking synthers in France do not even this kit....relax and go play with some of your other toys. Jeez.


I don't plan to cancel my order and I did go with nova to support them over the others. It just sucks to know that a preorder means nothing and we will likely get ours the same time that any swinging dick can buy one at a guitar center.
James Mandible
It seems kinda weird to blame nova for not getting their preorders yet, only two places that we know of have gotten their first shipments so far, Sweetwater and MF/Guitar Center. Nova will ship theirs whenever they show up. Preorders obviously are taking precedence and I think we're still a looooong way from being able to walk into a Guitar Center and buy one.
numbertalk
Just home this evening to find my waiting for me. So far really into it. Getting some nice and nasty sounds out of it.
mhtones
Mine arrived today! Opened up and plugged it in! But now.... hmmm.....

Can anyone verify that they have velocity control? No matter how hard or soft I play my minibrute keyboard, i get the same volume of note. Manual says it's velocity sensitive. EDIT: thanks for the clarification gwaidan (see next post). Also, my aftertouch is waaaay too sensitive. It fires aftertouch almost immediately as i press down a key. I have to play too carefully in order to NOT activate aftertouch. Which essentially makes aftertouch fairly unusable. (hopefully, it's adjustable as you mention below) And then I noticed that the amp envelope was acting strange. As if the keyboard is firing without me touching a key. This has only happened twice so far and is not reproducible. Also, I think there may be an issue with my Amp Envelope(?) If I adjust the release slider while a note is playing, the note gets stuck (even after I put the release to 0) or causes the filter cutoff to suddenly increase/decrease if I start moving the Amp release slider up and down. Also, my front panel has a slight scratch on it in the LFO section. Not something I'd expect on a new synth.

I called MF with my concerns and they were really cool and said they'd have a replacement out to me as soon as they got more in on Aug 10th. I can hold on to this one until then.

So, those gripes aside (which are I hope due to the fact that I got one the snuck past QC), I like the minibrute. I'm definitely going to get a replacement for this out of box failure (if that's what it is). It sounds pretty good. The synth is heavy/solid for it's size. The side panels are interesting. They are not metal, feel more plastic but kind of feel like they have a layer of grippy on them. Hard to describe. The Pitch and Mod wheels are cute. Smaller than usual, but work fine. One thing to note about the tap tempo of the arpeggiator. If you use the tap tempo button to set the tempo, I expected turning the knob would make the tempo faster or slower than that. It doesn't. As soon as you touch the tempo knob, it reverts to the tempo to the setting of the knob. I guess, it needs to work like this since there isn't a separate button/switch to switch between tap or knob tempo. So, just a note.

Edit, figured out the LFO section. If you want the LFO section knobs to work as expected, you need to be sure Mod Wheel switch is not on LFO amount. If it's on LFO amount, then the knobs don't seem to have an effect until you turn up the mod wheel. I guess that makes sense...
gwaidan
AFAIK it only sends velocity sensitivity via MIDI- sound engine does not respond to it either locally or via MIDI/USB. I believe the Minibrute Editor software will let you set aftertouch curves
mhtones
gwaidan wrote:
AFAIK it only sends velocity sensitivity via MIDI- sound engine does not respond to it either locally or via MIDI/USB. I believe the Minibrute Editor software will let you set aftertouch curves

Ok, thanks for clarifying that one for me. That's disappointing. Would have liked velocity control. confused I hope the aftertouch can be adjusted as you indicate, but I'm surprised how lightly I touch the key for it to trigger. I mean, I don't want to have to push the keyboard through the table, but I also don't want to have to play it with feathers.
deastman
I got mine. I like it.
gwaidan
mhtones wrote:
gwaidan wrote:
AFAIK it only sends velocity sensitivity via MIDI- sound engine does not respond to it either locally or via MIDI/USB. I believe the Minibrute Editor software will let you set aftertouch curves

Ok, thanks for clarifying that one for me. That's disappointing. Would have liked velocity control. confused I hope the aftertouch can be adjusted as you indicate, but I'm surprised how lightly I touch the key for it to trigger. I mean, I don't want to have to push the keyboard through the table, but I also don't want to have to play it with feathers.


Yeah, I suppose they designed it to compete with secondhand SH-101s, SH-09s, Pro-1s etc and none of those vintaj VCO monos have velocity...
mhtones
Sorry, didn't mean to be all pissy up above. Maybe it's because I've been on the back order list for nearly 6 months, so I'm taking out my angst on the minibrute. hihi Nah, probably more likely work.
suboptimal
Looking forward to hearing some sounds.
gwaidan
No probs, I think the long wait has given this thing the burden of high expectations for everyone.. 8_)
thesnow
I am actually sick of hearing about it and am not really interested at all. no offense. How do I ignore this whole thread so I don't get notified every time someone posts a comment? Thanks.
gwaidan
Click stop watching this topic in bottom left of screen.
thesnow
gwaidan wrote:
Click stop watching this topic in bottom left of screen.


thanks a bunch, gwaidan!

will see you all around here elsewhere : )
Sir Ruff
mhtones wrote:
gwaidan wrote:
AFAIK it only sends velocity sensitivity via MIDI- sound engine does not respond to it either locally or via MIDI/USB. I believe the Minibrute Editor software will let you set aftertouch curves

Ok, thanks for clarifying that one for me. That's disappointing. Would have liked velocity control. confused


Unless you never actually read anything about/researched what you were ordering, I can't imagine how there could be any surprises at this point hmmm.....
Rod Serling Fan Club
James Mandible wrote:
It seems kinda weird to blame nova for not getting their preorders yet


That is your conclusion, not mine. I don't blame nova. It's obviously arturia who chose who gets what. It might have been nice to know that up front. Like I said, seems kinda silly to have a preorder if the preorder may not actually mean anything.

It's somewhat amusing to me the musiciansfriend knowns they are getting another shipment on the 10th and nova either is actually clueless or at least claims to be. This late in the game I'm starting to think that placing an order with mf or sweetwater might still get filled before nova.
Low-Gain
Rod Serling Fan Club wrote:
James Mandible wrote:
It seems kinda weird to blame nova for not getting their preorders yet


That is your conclusion, not mine. I don't blame nova. It's obviously arturia who chose who gets what. It might have been nice to know that up front. Like I said, seems kinda silly to have a preorder if the preorder may not actually mean anything.

It's somewhat amusing to me the musiciansfriend knowns they are getting another shipment on the 10th and nova either is actually clueless or at least claims to be. This late in the game I'm starting to think that placing an order with mf or sweetwater might still get filled before nova.


Sweetwater knows when they're getting there next shipment too.. And i guess they have another one planned for late in august or something..

Arturia is just shipping the largest amounts to the "big box" resellers.. it makes sense.. Sucks for the "little guy" but they want to ship the most amount of product at once.
CalvaryBand
So I sent an e-mail to Nova to cancel my pre-order. They said Sweetwater/MF were the only ones to get them and only 1/4 of their preorders were fulfilled.

They also said they will be getting their shipment of Minbrutes in within the week, but regardless, they canceled my preorder. I feel like saying that was kind of like "Oh if you had just waited a little bit longer, you would've got one! Too bad!" That's great news to you guys who preordered with them, if it's true and not some sort shitty burn to make me regret canceling. The way it's phrased and the tone of the e-mail makes me doubt it's truthfulness, though.
zedius
Word I got from JRRShop is that they have been told mid to late July. I really hope this is true... now if it arrives by the end of August I will be happy. I will be happy any way it arrives, I guess. I'm getting pretty damn antsy though.

Anyone else have dates from JRR?

Thanks to everyone who has been posting demos and videos on themselves messing around. It sounds like it has a really huge variety of sound compared to many of the demos that portrayed only specific brutey aspects of it. I'd love to hear more mellow or pretty sounds; not just aggressive buzzing smile
Rod Serling Fan Club
Yeah, I don't mean to whine. I have been in need of a good v/oct keyboard for a while to help with my DIY oscillator calibrations and now I am just antsy to get something to do that but also feel I might as well hold out as I've waited this long. Still very excited about it, seems like a great value and versatile little synth. I guess we will see what happens.
gwaidan
Surprise-got into work here in Sydney this morning and my MB was waiting! Looks like MF upgraded the freight to expedited...

First thought is that skinny hipster dude in the advertisement shoving it into a backpack and running to a gig must have had a very heavy duty backpack and been very fit-it's a solid little unit.....
ringstone
gwaidan wrote:
Surprise-got into work here in Sydney this morning and my MB was waiting! Looks like MF upgraded the freight to expedited...

First thought is that skinny hipster dude in the advertisement shoving it into a backpack and running to a gig must have had a very heavy duty backpack and been very fit-it's a solid little unit.....


w00t Some hipster-free vids/sounds when you get a chance please!!!

Cheers
Blair
noikea
zedius wrote:

Thanks to everyone who has been posting demos and videos on themselves messing around. It sounds like it has a really huge variety of sound compared to many of the demos that portrayed only specific brutey aspects of it. I'd love to hear more mellow or pretty sounds; not just aggressive buzzing smile


Yves put a couple of less aggressive demos on his soundcloud:

[s]http://soundcloud.com/yusynth/promenade-sur-la-lande-strawl[/s]

[s]http://soundcloud.com/yusynth/demo-2-minibrute[/s]

Good to know at least one Minibrute is in Australia even if it came by way of US stockists! My local preorder still states 30th July.
ausgeno
gwaidan wrote:
Surprise-got into work here in Sydney this morning and my MB was waiting! Looks like MF upgraded the freight to expedited...

First thought is that skinny hipster dude in the advertisement shoving it into a backpack and running to a gig must have had a very heavy duty backpack and been very fit-it's a solid little unit.....


Congrats gwaidan! I think you're the first Aussie to get one. I've ben tracking my UPS shipment and it's already in Sydney but I don't expect it until monday.

Very fast shipping considering it was UPS and they only charged $15 for it, I think MF definitely upgraded it for us.
ausgeno
Wow, timing, mine just arrived! applause
gwaidan
w00t nanners
ausgeno
Love the fact the power cable is separate from the power supply so there's no need for a universal adaptor, just add an Aussie power cable and we're away!
mhtones
Sir Ruff wrote:

Unless you never actually read anything about/researched what you were ordering, I can't imagine how there could be any surprises at this point hmmm.....


Thanks for the comment Ruff. You mean I should have read all 55 pages of this thread. Sorry, I must have missed those couple posts.

I agree, I probably shouldn't question anything about this synth. I mean it has aftertouch, who needs it to respond to velocity in this day and age.
ausgeno
mhtones wrote:

Thanks for the comment Ruff. You mean I should have read all 55 pages of this thread.


To be fair, I don't think that is what he meant, but it's all good, lets just enjoy our new fat monosynths! w00t
Sir Ruff
mhtones wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:

Unless you never actually read anything about/researched what you were ordering, I can't imagine how there could be any surprises at this point hmmm.....


Thanks for the comment Ruff. You mean I should have read all 55 pages of this thread. Sorry, I must have missed those couple posts


Never suggested that. Aurturia has had all the details and features up on their website for a long time.

Anyway, mine arrived. Had about 15mins of fun before it started bugging out. Octave selector didn't work either. Back to MF you go waah sad banana
gwaidan
Everyone who's received their unit-I strongly recommend you upgrade the firmware ASAP. The current version is 1.01 - the reported version on my machine was 0.06 (!). I just upgraded mine-the LFO rate knob now lets me choose varying divisions of the arpeggiator clock where it was previously useless in Arpeg clock mode. It's peanut butter jelly time!
zedius
Thanks Noikea. Those are great demos that I did not know about!
m0rb1d
this thing sounds awesome as hell.
James Mandible
noikea wrote:


Yves put a couple of less aggressive demos on his soundcloud:

[s]http://soundcloud.com/yusynth/promenade-sur-la-lande-strawl[/s]

[s]http://soundcloud.com/yusynth/demo-2-minibrute[/s]



cheers for these demos, showcases EXACTLY what I'm hoping for out of this synth, lovely leads for those times when I'm just too lazy to patch the modular up for such simple sounds. Went ahead and ordered (and paid for!) mine yesterday from Zzounds, Lord knows how long it'll take to actually get it but it'll be a nice surprise when I get the tracking info I suppose. Guinness ftw!
ausgeno
gwaidan wrote:
Everyone who's received their unit-I strongly recommend you upgrade the firmware ASAP. The current version is 1.01 - the reported version on my machine was 0.06 (!). I just upgraded mine-the LFO rate knob now lets me choose varying divisions of the arpeggiator clock where it was previously useless in Arpeg clock mode. It's peanut butter jelly time!


Thanks for the tip, I havent updated mine yet but shall do it now.

I spent all of last night jamming with the Minibrute, it is one bad-ass synth! I was doing acid lines, electro riffs, domntempo trance leads, just heaps of different styles and it was awesome at everything I tried. It's a very full range synth too I've found, it can do a high-pitched acid line but with the sub-Osc dialled in on -2 it still sounds fat at the same time.

And dat filter! With the resonance up high it can get some really random bubbling going on, add a bit of brute factor and it is sooo juicy.
zedius
Someone fantastic has been posting very pretty sounding minibrute videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpAQzw_rkB8&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtH_Uqg22sk&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ_E2ItWsd0
z3r01
Mine arrived earlier today from MF. Had about 30 minutes to play with it before heading out. I'm glad I did not cancel my preorder.

Thanks for the info about the update too gwaidan. thumbs up
lorenzovektor
I bought mine wednesday, I love it
Sir Ruff
Just to confirm...

My octave selector switch doesn't work, not do the LFO rate and ARP tempo knobs. I can edit the internal setting with the program, but can't update the OS successfully.

Am I missing something totally obvious? Otherwise, I suspect there's something afoot with the digital stuff in mine.
reignbear
lorenzovektor wrote:
I bought mine wednesday, I love it


out of curiosity, where did you get it from?
gwaidan
Sir Ruff wrote:
Just to confirm...

My octave selector switch doesn't work, not do the LFO rate and ARP tempo knobs. I can edit the internal setting with the program, but can't update the OS successfully.

Am I missing something totally obvious? Otherwise, I suspect there's something afoot with the digital stuff in mine.


Octave selector and ARP tempo knobs worked fine out of the box with mine-LFO rate knob was only disabled when the LFO was synced to the ARP. If you can't update the OS sounds like it needs professional help.
ausgeno
Sir Ruff wrote:
Just to confirm...

My octave selector switch doesn't work, not do the LFO rate and ARP tempo knobs. I can edit the internal setting with the program, but can't update the OS successfully.

Am I missing something totally obvious? Otherwise, I suspect there's something afoot with the digital stuff in mine.


Octave selector for the sub-osc or the keyboard? I can't think of any configuration that would prevent the octave up/down buttons from working, sounds like yours is a dud. seriously, i just don't get it
jonah
After I got over the initial "shiny, new, want!" feelings I thought I was safe! I mean it sounds good, but it's still a monosynth.

Then I realized how this could solve 90% of the complaints I have with the DSI polyevolver by giving me an arp, an additional more versatile filter, a single basic voice to free up the rest of the 4 on the PEK to be interesting. Plus, I could jack the CV out into the evolver's pedal in too, I think, and delay and filter the minibrute with the evolver as well.
Sir Ruff
ausgeno wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
Just to confirm...

My octave selector switch doesn't work, not do the LFO rate and ARP tempo knobs. I can edit the internal setting with the program, but can't update the OS successfully.

Am I missing something totally obvious? Otherwise, I suspect there's something afoot with the digital stuff in mine.


Octave selector for the sub-osc or the keyboard? I can't think of any configuration that would prevent the octave up/down buttons from working, sounds like yours is a dud. seriously, i just don't get it


Yeah, actual octave switch. Definitely think it needs to go back. I do hear what sounds like a loose cable moving around inside the case. I wonder if something is disconnected, or if this is just a "free" cable... anyone else have this?
James Mandible
Oh hey look guys if you don't wanna wait you can get one NOW for only TWICE the price!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arturia-Minibrute-Analog-Synthesizer-NEW-IN-BO X-/120951069245?pt=US_Image_Video_Audio_Software&hash=item1c293eda3d#h t_500wt_1219
burnn_out!
When the hype dies down, I'm probably going to grab one of these. Seems like suck an awesome value, even though I'm pretty much done with keys..
ringstone
zedius wrote:
Someone fantastic has been posting very pretty sounding minibrute videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpAQzw_rkB8&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtH_Uqg22sk&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ_E2ItWsd0


He refers to some "hidden" sequencer function in the description of one of those vids. Anyone know what that's about?

Cheers
Blair
zedius
I believe I remember seeing a video at one point where they talked about how one of the arp modes you can basically use it as a sequencer. Time ordered note entry. Even lets you switch octaves while entering notes, iirc.
sweetchuck
hello folks im new here Chugging Beers

Just heard a great demo on the arturia forums minibrute demo, Any idea of when UK shipping will begin?

i preordered with dv247, but the dude that did the demo is from the uk , i think he preordered from the states.

any one know if you need to use the powersupply of the brute when using as a midi controller?

and can you use the cv outputs without power and simply use the usb cable?


Thanks

Chuck
werock
I got an email from dv247 on Friday (a general mail out, not minibrute specific) saying the first ones had arrived. They've since updated that to say 'first one has arrived with the U.K distributor'.

So I think you've got a while to wait yet. Good news is the price is now £389.
lorenzovektor
James Mandible wrote:
Oh hey look guys if you don't wanna wait you can get one NOW for only TWICE the price!!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Arturia-Minibrute-Analog-Synthesizer-NEW-IN-BO X-/120951069245?pt=US_Image_Video_Audio_Software&hash=item1c293eda3d#h t_500wt_1219


what a dick Dead Banana
lorenzovektor
I did the firmware update and it seems to be working flawlessly
a100user
werock wrote:
I got an email from dv247 on Friday (a general mail out, not minibrute specific) saying the first ones had arrived. They've since updated that to say 'first one has arrived with the U.K distributor'.

So I think you've got a while to wait yet. Good news is the price is now £389.


That is such a great price I call DV247, they said their imminent delivery has been delayed a month!

However I decided to put a deposit down on one anyway.

How can I not justify £389 for all that functionality? I mean I spent more on a single module.
ausgeno
After a few days of mucking around with it I can say confidently that I freakin love my Minibrute. It's such a fat nasty creamy screamy little beast.
dubchild
some local GCs have them in stock, check yours, mine did!!
r05c03
Okay. That is bullshit. How much?
critical
I got my Minibrute yesterday, had a few hours of joy, and now it's dead. No lights, no sound, nothing. I've sent a tech support request to Arturia for help, but I've a sinking feeling I'm going to have to ship it back to MF.
sad banana
Rod Serling Fan Club
All these issues are concerning. I'm half tempted to go with something else and wait for them to get the minibrute sorted.
r05c03
There does seem to be lots of issues.
ausgeno
critical wrote:
I got my Minibrute yesterday, had a few hours of joy, and now it's dead. No lights, no sound, nothing. I've sent a tech support request to Arturia for help, but I've a sinking feeling I'm going to have to ship it back to MF.
sad banana


Damn, that sucks. Issue with the external power supply perhaps?
critical
ausgeno wrote:
Damn, that sucks. Issue with the external power supply perhaps?


Hmm could be - I'm using the supplied PSU with an Australian plug adapter. I guess could buy a new PSU and see if that works.
Stab Frenzy
r05c03 wrote:
There does seem to be lots of issues.

It's a brand new mass-produced product, these kinds of things are to be expected unfortunately. Not that they'll all die, but that a few will have issues that the manufacturer hadn't forseen and will remedy in later production runs. It's generally my rule not to buy rev 1 anything, at least until it's been on the market for six months or so and reports are all coming back positive.
critical
It was a faulty PSU. Thanks for the advice Ausgeno!
ringstone
Stab Frenzy wrote:
r05c03 wrote:
There does seem to be lots of issues.

It's a brand new mass-produced product, these kinds of things are to be expected unfortunately. Not that they'll all die, but that a few will have issues that the manufacturer hadn't forseen and will remedy in later production runs. It's generally my rule not to buy rev 1 anything, at least until it's been on the market for six months or so and reports are all coming back positive.


I'm waiting on a few of those hipsters to get sick of theirs so I can pick one up cheap in a while on teh Ebay twisted

Cheers
Blair
werock
a100user wrote:


That is such a great price I call DV247, they said their imminent delivery has been delayed a month!

However I decided to put a deposit down on one anyway.

How can I not justify £389 for all that functionality? I mean I spent more on a single module.


Yeah, it's top of my wanted list, but I'll have to wait a while (money wise and availability wise).
James Mandible
dubchild wrote:
some local GCs have them in stock, check yours, mine did!!


Damn that's kinda f'd up considering even in the US most people haven't gotten their preorders yet. Oh well, maybe I'll go take a look tomorrow to see if there's one around that I can at least play with while I wait for my shipping notification. MY ASS IS BLEEDING
jessem
James Mandible wrote:
dubchild wrote:
some local GCs have them in stock, check yours, mine did!!


Damn that's kinda f'd up considering even in the US most people haven't gotten their preorders yet. Oh well, maybe I'll go take a look tomorrow to see if there's one around that I can at least play with while I wait for my shipping notification. MY ASS IS BLEEDING

It's not really. A pre-order is between you an a retailer, if that retailer is having a hard time securing product due to their buyer relationship they may get beat out by a large retailer like Guitar Center. Every retailer has their own preorder with Arturia, which are now starting to be filled.
Sir Ruff
Can someone just give their mini a shake and tell me if you have any audible cable movement inside? I'm half tempted just to open mine up to see if that's causing the problem, but only if I'm the only one hearing it!
CZ Rider
Sir Ruff wrote:
Can someone just give their mini a shake and tell me if you have any audible cable movement inside?

Nope! Nothing making any noise. Very solid.
Wouldn't hurt to take a peek inside. If you want I can open mine up and post a pic ? Works fine right now and I do not plan on returning it. More than once I have received non working electronics, and found simple fixes like disconnected wire headers and such.

EDIT:
OK, I'm curious what's inside too!
Looks like there is a little header that goes to the LH section. Just remove the 16
little screws on bottom. Flip it right side up on a table, and carefully tip the back up and slide the front past the keyboard to lift the top. The keybaord is connected to the bottom plate via larger screws, don't need to remove them.




Sir Ruff
CZ Rider wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
Can someone just give their mini a shake and tell me if you have any audible cable movement inside?

Nope! Nothing making any noise. Very solid.
Wouldn't hurt to take a peek inside. If you want I can open mine up and post a pic ? Works fine right now and I do not plan on returning it. More than once I have received non working electronics, and found simple fixes like disconnected wire headers and such.


Surprise, surprise! My ears did not deceive me: it was a disconnected cable! (The smaller of the two in the photo). Hurrah! applause applause applause

The same thing used to happen to the keyboard-to-mainboard cable on my Pro-1 all the time, but in that case, only the keyboard didn't work, so it was pretty obvious what was the culprit.
James Mandible
jessem wrote:
James Mandible wrote:
dubchild wrote:
some local GCs have them in stock, check yours, mine did!!


Damn that's kinda f'd up considering even in the US most people haven't gotten their preorders yet. Oh well, maybe I'll go take a look tomorrow to see if there's one around that I can at least play with while I wait for my shipping notification. MY ASS IS BLEEDING

It's not really. A pre-order is between you an a retailer, if that retailer is having a hard time securing product due to their buyer relationship they may get beat out by a large retailer like Guitar Center. Every retailer has their own preorder with Arturia, which are now starting to be filled.


Yeah just seems kinda lame I guess. Oh well. My local GC did indeed have a brute. Seeing as I've already paid for mine (and don't have any extra cash atm) I was satisfied just playing it and getting a feel for it. Pretty impressed! Apparently this GC had had theirs in nearly a week now and yet I was the first one they'd noticed playing it at all (probably because of the fact that the keyboard wasn't in the proper mode lol )
ausgeno
critical wrote:
It was a faulty PSU. Thanks for the advice Ausgeno!


That's great to hear! Saves you having to ship back to the US for repair. thumbs up
gwaidan
Sir Ruff wrote:
CZ Rider wrote:
Sir Ruff wrote:
Can someone just give their mini a shake and tell me if you have any audible cable movement inside?

Nope! Nothing making any noise. Very solid.
Wouldn't hurt to take a peek inside. If you want I can open mine up and post a pic ? Works fine right now and I do not plan on returning it. More than once I have received non working electronics, and fou