Macbeth in euro !!!!

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Post by fluxmonkey » Fri May 15, 2009 12:14 pm

wetterberg wrote:surely you're looking for the "complaints about eurorack forum" - it's down the hall to the right.
dont put words in my mouth. only hoping for new options in my preferred format, not badmouthing anyone else's preference... that would be rude.

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Post by stretta » Fri May 15, 2009 12:25 pm

Clearly, Macbeth modules should be Scottish Plaid. If it isn't plaid, I'm not buying. Good day to you sir, I SAID GOOD DAY.

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Post by wetterberg » Fri May 15, 2009 12:37 pm

fluxmonkey wrote:
wetterberg wrote:surely you're looking for the "complaints about eurorack forum" - it's down the hall to the right.
dont put words in my mouth. only hoping for new options in my preferred format, not badmouthing anyone else's preference... that would be rude.

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I didn't put words in your mouth. In fact, I not only didn't quote you, I responded to parasitk - the post immediately preceding mine, as is the etiquette. It was also a tongue-in-cheek remark, which was followed up by a :hug: - I'll do that again now, I think, because nothing is further from my mind than badmouthing formats!

-> :hug: <-

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Post by Chuck E. Jesus » Fri May 15, 2009 12:37 pm

if you kids don't pipe down back there, i'm turning this car right around...

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Post by Ken MacBeth » Fri May 15, 2009 2:08 pm

...Ok Gentlemen!

Well for the last three or four days- I've been converting the Dual Oscillator from the 5U format down to the 3U format. The two modulating LFOs for the PWM/X-Mod have been replace by a geniuine balanced modulator wired up as ring modulator. The device is the MC1496P. This differs sonically from the AD633 analogue multipler more commenly used these days. My experience is that the AD633 creates ring mod like effects that are best used with sine waves. The MC1496 seems to have the whole spread with all waveforms. I'm chuffed. :hihi:

So- the Dual Osc module is now 2 Oscs and 1 Ring Modulator.

To answer questions or peoples' thoughts:

I have no plan immeadiately to do any 84hp module! But- this module- and others like it are a large 48hp size. I will not be downscaling the size of the controls for the sake of space- I want my controls to be of a realistic size, well by my standards.

Now that you mention colors - I welcome this!- so I'll be taking a list of who wants what- within reason!! :hihi:

I have also welcomed your interest in the idea of myself design within the 3U system -it is 3U for this moment that I'll work on- I've no plans for frac rac at this time.

Also as has been stated, quality products don't come *cheap* - I pride myself on providing a reliable product built to last. I get some of the best companies to make what I do- and yes, it's not a cheap process. I do not, and have never employed unqualified labor for any build that been done.
So rest assured this will be good stuff. Because I sub-contract- I know that the work I get back to me will be delivered on time- this means it will be delivered to you on time.

Ok- hears the crunch- see todays work. I've laid out controls on the pcb data for the front layer pcb (not the more complex mother board)- this is how the 48hp size unit will be laid out...Image

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Post by Ken MacBeth » Fri May 15, 2009 2:11 pm

...damn! How do I upload a pic?!!

Gawd I'm slow......

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Post by BananaPlug » Fri May 15, 2009 2:17 pm

...damn! How do I upload a pic?!!
Use the"postReply" button (not the Quick Reply box), then click Upload Picture.

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Post by Ken MacBeth » Fri May 15, 2009 2:37 pm

- hopefully a pic here....
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Post by ignatius » Fri May 15, 2009 2:41 pm

Ken MacBeth wrote:- hopefully a pic here....
holy hot pants! :hail:

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Post by kidtesla » Fri May 15, 2009 2:44 pm

:tu:
I'll take a couple in chrome :guinness:

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Re: ...ok

Post by theglyph » Fri May 15, 2009 2:52 pm

Ken MacBeth wrote:- hopefully a pic here....
Damn, can't see the photo in my browser! :bang:

Maybe this is to keep the GAS at bay. :hihi:

Ahh, there it is! I guess I needed to be logged in.

Now the GAS is in full swing. :doh: :help: :hail:

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Post by kidtesla » Fri May 15, 2009 2:53 pm

theglyph wrote:
Ken MacBeth wrote:- hopefully a pic here....
Damn, can't see the photo in my browser! :bang:

Maybe this is to keep the GAS at bay. :hihi:


It's an attachment,so you have to be logged in.
[edit] you beat me to it :chug:

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Post by sascha.victoria » Fri May 15, 2009 3:00 pm

Hey Ken,
This looks awesome! I have no problem with 48hp panel size. The way I see it, thats less then my 2 Livewire AFGs!

It would be sweet if you made a complimentary module that is 36hp to take up 1 full row. If you did that you could easily have some cables on the back of each module for some normalization between the modules.

My vote for color is the blue you did a couple of M5s in.

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Post by haven » Fri May 15, 2009 3:06 pm

Well, I just put all further oscillator purchases or trades on hold :)

Love the big knobs and layout. Concerns are how will multiple waveforms be selected/mixed for each oscillator? Would two rows or ins/outs fit like the AFG has? that way you could fit separate outs for the waveforms and switching jacks for the ringmod so external signals can be used.

That large for two oscillators is comparable to a pair of Livewire AFG - but the AFG has a lot more outputs (which I frequently use as audio rate modulation sources). So the size does not put me off.

Do these oscillators do hard sync?

I personally prefer the standard silver or anodized aluminum over paint. But I would still buy them if they were blue.

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Post by chiasticon » Fri May 15, 2009 3:06 pm

so...just so we're clear... 3U = eurorack, right? (i feel dumb asking this, having mucho dollars already invested in the format!)

if so, i'm definitely stoked to check these out. silverish in the photo looks great to me; i think white would be hotness as well.

fwiw, i don't think 48hp is that bad for this. you're getting two oscillators and a ring mod within that space. not too shabby. i guess cwejman has that within 20hp, but his gear is definitely of the micro nature (love it tho i do).

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Post by L0ren » Fri May 15, 2009 3:08 pm

The mock up for your Euro module looks great, Ken!

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Post by stretta » Fri May 15, 2009 3:22 pm

What is the opposite of hotdog in a hallway?

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Post by brandon daniel » Fri May 15, 2009 3:50 pm

stretta wrote:What is the opposite of hotdog in a hallway?
Hotdog in a 1/4" jack.
MOAR EURO

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Post by wetterberg » Fri May 15, 2009 4:05 pm

gawd, what a gorgeous piece of synth porn that is!!! :hail:

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Post by jonkull » Fri May 15, 2009 4:12 pm

Ken MacBeth wrote:...Ok Gentlemen!

Well for the last three or four days- I've been converting the Dual Oscillator from the 5U format down to the 3U format.
This is very exciting news. I've been hoping for Euro versions of your modules since I listened to the demos you linked to in the 5U forum. :party:

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Post by coomby » Fri May 15, 2009 4:32 pm

i can't make out if their will be sliders on the module ?

it would be pretty cool to bring that aspect to the euro format since we don't really have any slider based modules...

+1 on blue
or cream white

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Post by REwire » Fri May 15, 2009 6:41 pm

The Oscs on my M5 were the fattest most vintage sounding ever in anything I've heard made in the last 20 years. These will be tops of all, can't wait!

-1 for Blue.
+1 for White like the M5n

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Post by vav » Fri May 15, 2009 8:01 pm

Well that's just tits.

I'm nervous about pricing though. Not that i dont think it will be WORTH it, just wondering if i'll be able to actually afford it. Same reason i have no Cwejman stuff.

Edit: And my choice would be white or gunmetal grey/silver. Although really, i'd love a royal purple one...

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Fri May 15, 2009 9:13 pm

i just want to chime in quick from a very busy day to say

OH FUCK YEAH :sb: :sb: :sb:


Ken thanks for sharing that here - looks absolutely INCREDIBLE and the Euro scene is crazy lucky to have your designs available. Wow. Thank-you, seriously.

That looks beautiful. Instant lust. I'll be buying.

I don't care what color it is.

But please do blue.

Really, really, really good job!

Great to see another manufacturer forging their own layout principles in Euro format, instead of copying some non-existant perceived 'standard'.

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Post by Chuck E. Jesus » Fri May 15, 2009 10:22 pm

Muff Wiggler wrote:
I don't care what color it is.

But please do blue.
agreed!

Muff Wiggler wrote:
Great to see another manufacturer forging their own layout principles in Euro format, instead of copying some non-existant perceived 'standard'.
if they all would put the jacks on the bottom i'd be happy...

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