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Swart Amp Porn
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el clon
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One of the things I really like about this amp is that it is really sensitive to different tubes. You can really hear the difference. I've been picking up old tubes on ebay and from various dealers and having a BLAST trying them all out in the amp.


i know exactly what you mean. i recently bought about a dozen old 12AX7s (used, not NOS) from a guy who used to have a studio w/all this old tube-driven gear. it was a mixed bag of RCA, Brimar, GE, Valvo, Telefunken, all these great tubes i'd read about but not had the money to try. i spent a whole weekend (like a freak) swapping them in and out of my amps (a BF Fender Deluxe Reverb and a Marshall Lead & Bass 20) and recording the results, analyzing the recordings. the difference was HUGE! just in changing the V1 tube. i already had an NOS RCA in the Fender, but it was totally out-shined by a tube i'd never heard of (Valvo).

by the way, i saw on another thread that you were raving about an Amperex Bugle Boy. how much did that cost? it's one of the only classic 12AX7s that i haven't tried and i'm more curious after yr post...
Muff Wiggler
The Amperex Bugle Boy is the best V1 tube I've found! The telefunken and the UK Mullard 'large plates' are tied for second - but there's a pretty big difference between first and second here!

The Bugle Boys add so much clarity, but it's "warmth of treble" (for lack of a better term) where they really shine. I can honestly crank my tone control to '11' without ice-pickiness with this tube, impossible with all others.

I have a large plate one, and a medium plate one. The large plate one is a bit microphonic - you can amplify your finger tapping if the amp is cranked ALL the way up, but this isn't bad. the medium plate one is not microphonic at all. I prefer the large plate one - the sound is basically identical to the two, however the large plate one adds some 'air' to the amps tone, that the medium-plate one does not. I firmly believe that this is due to the slight microphonics.

Vacuum Tube Valley sells them for $200. SND Tube sales (www.vacuumtubes.com) sells them for $100, but don't always have them in stock.

I just got some *BEAUTIFUL* Visseaux ST-bottle (shoulder bottles) power tubes that I can't wait to try tonight.



Also yesterday I received a NOS Mullard 5Y3 rectifier in an ST bottle, and it looks and sounds SO NICE in my amp... I just love these big ST glass tubes...

occupant
gorgeous amp hyper just nice quality, some of those wires in the circuit photo even look cloth insulted - especially the white ones.. Don't think they are, but it's a nice touch they don't look super-shiny.


What does that 'launch' switch do? oops
el clon
beautiful pix.
$200, or even $100, for one tube is out of my $$ league. i had no idea.. i was guessing $50.
after that used 12AX7 buy i mentioned, i'm going to look for used tubes now. those old ones were really built to last. as long as they aren't too heavily used.

i like the look of those coke-bottle guys. very 50s, Forbidden Planet, mad scientist lab.

the crazy thing about messing w/all these tubes is that they behave so differently depending on the amp. the tube that sounded amazing and seemed to 'fix' the sound of my Marshall was ok, but not great in the Fender.
do you have another amp you've been sticking these tubes in besides the Swart? it looks like you have enough awesome tubes to fill another amp.
Muff Wiggler
occupant wrote:
gorgeous amp hyper just nice quality, some of those wires in the circuit photo even look cloth insulted - especially the white ones.. Don't think they are, but it's a nice touch they don't look super-shiny.


What does that 'launch' switch do? oops


all the wire used inside the amp is cloth-covered...no plastic/rubber sheathed wires AT ALL


the 'launch' switch is the standby control....
Muff Wiggler
el clon wrote:
beautiful pix.
$200, or even $100, for one tube is out of my $$ league. i had no idea.. i was guessing $50.
after that used 12AX7 buy i mentioned, i'm going to look for used tubes now. those old ones were really built to last. as long as they aren't too heavily used.

i like the look of those coke-bottle guys. very 50s, Forbidden Planet, mad scientist lab.

the crazy thing about messing w/all these tubes is that they behave so differently depending on the amp. the tube that sounded amazing and seemed to 'fix' the sound of my Marshall was ok, but not great in the Fender.
do you have another amp you've been sticking these tubes in besides the Swart? it looks like you have enough awesome tubes to fill another amp.


You can get them cheaper on ebay - ~50-80 ea, however it's prety rife with counterfeits. The Bugle Boy is a VERY common tube to fake (possibly the commonest? Eric?)

They will last 20ish years though.

You think $100-200 is bad? Just wait 2 or 3 years. Trust me.
Muff Wiggler
and here she is with the Visseaux's installed....

Muff Wiggler
hey El Clon -

I happen to have an extra NOS Bugle Boy, the box has a damaged tab but other than that it's in great shape, and the tube is pretty much mint

I know $100 for a tube is out of your league, but I would entertain interesting trades if you have anything cool you aren't using...
el clon
Quote:
You think $100-200 is bad? Just wait 2 or 3 years. Trust me.


that's funny. i was telling my wife the same thing recently.
me: "... so you see, when you think about it, it makes a lot of sense for me to spend $1000 on tubes... before the prices are too high."
her: "oh, god..."
el clon
Quote:
hey El Clon -

I happen to have an extra NOS Bugle Boy, the box has a damaged tab but other than that it's in great shape, and the tube is pretty much mint

I know $100 for a tube is out of your league, but I would entertain interesting trades if you have anything cool you aren't using...


thanks, that's really cool of you... i have a few vintage (used) 12AX7s that i could add cash to, if you were interested. RCA, Telefunken, Brimar...
Muff Wiggler
hmm, I sorta have too many 12AX7s to be honest, but I *have* been looking for a Telefunken Ribbed Plate one. Is yours smooth or ribbed for her pleasure? How used are they? Do you have access to a tester?

and, any chance you have any interesting tubes in these types?

6V6
6F6
6L6
5AR4/GZ34
5Y3
el clon
sorry, they're smooth plates. no idea how used, as i don't have a tester.
i tried them in my amp and they worked and stuff, but...

i don't have any extras of the other tubes, just what's in the amps. it's probably for the best since i dodn't have any spending money anyway. i always seem to spend a little more than i should because cool things like this always pop up.
(much to the chagrin of my wife) hihi
Muff Wiggler
no problem...we could maybe go the other way as well, i could kick in some cash along with the tube for something. Any cool guitar pedals or modules you would consider parting with? I'm pretty picky and have lots of good toys but it never hurts to ask 8)

cheers
el clon
good idea. i'll give it some thought, but i think i sold off all of my unused stuff. i recently sold a bunch of pedals and a Marshall head to finance my modular purchases.
but i'll have a look around the studio...
Muff Wiggler
Muff Wiggler wrote:
oooh there's a 2x12 cab option now, UK-made Celestion Greenbacks




just got an email.....mine's almost ready. Cabinet is done and the speakers have arrived. I special ordered it with Celestion Blue's
tiny333
your such a tart! applause
Muff Wiggler
very frustrating

Anyway I don't think you would like this one. The are far more expensive alternatives out there for ya.
el clon
i've always been curious about the Celestion Blues... i've never played any alnico speakers.
Muff Wiggler
i'm looking forward to 'em... A freind has a really old Vox with a really old Celestion Blue in it, and I have to say that I *love* that amp.

My other experience with alnico speaks is a Weber Blue Dog that a friend has in an amp he made himself. He originally had a Greenback in there, and the difference when he went to the Blue Dog was immense....not as aggressive or punchy of a sound, more relaxed with a huge increase in clarity, warmth and definition...as much as those words are useful to describve sound anyway, but that's how I put it.

I originally took the Greenback's (standard option) with my cab, but I couldn't stop thinking about alnico speaks. It was one of the things I wanted when I originally bought the AST amp, but I fell in love with the amp so much I ended up not caring about the ceramic magnet inside it, because whatever was in there, sure worked for me.

So while I was thinking about the extension cab I ordered, I couldn't get the alnico thing out of my mind. I emailed them about switching the Greenback's for Blue's, figuring I have a nice ceramic speaker/greenback clone already in the combo. So yeah after all this I'm really curious to hear these speakers with my amp. I've heard they can take up to a year and a half to really break in, but they supposedly sound great out of the box, so no matter. We'll see....time will tell. They are shipping it to me at the end of this week after some time to test it and break it in (also they are very curious about the speakers as well and want to compare them to the other cabs they have sitting around....they've never put alnico into their amps before)
Muff Wiggler
ok i really *AM* such a tart, i'll admit it oops



they even made me a replacement rear panel for my AST that has an external speaker jack and a speaker selection switch. just gotta remember to not get dumb and leave it on 'external' with nothing plugged in eek! the two guys down there that make these amps are some really nice guys

tiny333
wow they DO look FANTASTIC


spinning spinning spinning
el clon
beautiful work. it's so great dealing w/little companies, huh? (well, sometimes not, but...)

how 'bout some ceramic vs. alnico recordings? yeah yeah! Rawk! Rockin' Banana! SlayerBadger!
Muff Wiggler
el clon wrote:
beautiful work. it's so great dealing w/little companies, huh? (well, sometimes not, but...)


i agree....it's just incredible when you have things hand-made by people who truly, tryly care. awesome.

el clon wrote:
how 'bout some ceramic vs. alnico recordings? yeah yeah! Rawk! Rockin' Banana! SlayerBadger!


but then you'd have to hear me play guitar!! oops
tiny333
yessss.... meh

come on we want to hear the swart


help

just sustain a few notes and play an e

no one expects steve via... we're not worthy we're not worthy
Muff Wiggler
don't worry, i will Guinness ftw! you'll get to hear my $100 mic into my $100 pre into my $100 converter, but yeah, I'll do it

just gotta get people out of the house and setup the mic, dunno when that'll happen, but yeah for sure

i think even through all that crap this amp is going to sound REALLY NICE.



but tiny when do we get to hear any of your stuff?
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