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wilson analog delay

Post by aetherpulse » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:07 pm

I've been thinking of getting this M-odule to sit next to my creature (after talking to Rex for about an hour and a half!) for a little portable rig. Anyone here have one? Thoughts or opinions would be be great...

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Post by 550b » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:47 pm

I've spent a lot of time with the WAD. I love it. I wish the 200e had a delay like it. Aside from the usual analog delay applications, it's great for mangling and shredding audio (especially external sources).

Were I buying Serge gear, this module would be near the top of my list.

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Post by aetherpulse » Wed Jun 17, 2009 9:59 pm

[quote]it's great for mangling and shredding audio[quote]

That's exactly why I am considering it (also why Rex recommended it)
I would love some audio of it doing it's thing. I haven't found any on the web yet...

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Post by amnesia » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:45 pm

my vid

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Post by b3nsf » Wed Jun 17, 2009 10:54 pm

man, I want this module paired with the Audio Interface, so sweet!
its like saying you experience michaelangelo because there is a picture on your happy meal
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Post by bartlebooth » Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:16 pm

I have a Klangzeit M-odule (WAD + frequency shifter) on order, should be arriving in a few weeks. I'll gladly post some video demos once I get it.

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Post by b3nsf » Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:18 pm

I really want to know what people do with their pre-amp detector module... anybody? :hmm:
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Post by aetherpulse » Wed Jun 17, 2009 11:37 pm

Wow, I can't believe I missed Amnesia's vid! Sounds pretty cool. I'm starting to think that it might be the right way to go for me...

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Post by amnesia » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:26 am

if you buy the new Serge compilation that is due out soon I have a whole track that is dubbed mentall in Wilson :-)

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Post by 2012 » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:35 am

550b wrote: I wish the 200e had a delay like it.
when i have my 200e i think i will mod a modcan digital delay into an 200e panel.

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Post by cebec » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:10 am

One of my favorite modules. So versatile. I hardly ever use it for 'regular delay' or echo and almost always use it to completely warp a sound or generate sound on its own through creative feedback paths. I don't have a WAD demo, per se, but this track has a lot of WAD abuse.

http://share.ovi.com/media/cebec.rawexp ... ebec.10112

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Post by b3nsf » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:31 am

nice example! :deadbanana: :nana: :nana:
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Post by cebec » Thu Jun 18, 2009 11:40 am

b3nsf wrote:nice example! :deadbanana: :nana: :nana:
Thanks!
I'll add that sometimes the WAD serves as the inspiration for an entire piece or jam session. :bananaguitar:
I've also managed pretty nice string sounds, especially plucks, using the Karplus-Strong algorithm.

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Post by b3nsf » Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:09 pm

arg! now I want a WAD! I'll just hook up my Marshall Time Modulator for now... :tu:
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Post by mono-poly » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:07 pm

2012 wrote:
550b wrote: I wish the 200e had a delay like it.
when i have my 200e i think i will mod a modcan digital delay into an 200e panel.
That's a nice delay but it is not a good processor for karplus strong patches i think.
The Serge WAD is one off the best ones for that.
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Post by 2012 » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:10 pm

mono-poly wrote:
2012 wrote:
550b wrote: I wish the 200e had a delay like it.
when i have my 200e i think i will mod a modcan digital delay into an 200e panel.
That's a nice delay but it is not a good processor for karplus strong patches i think.
The Serge WAD is one off the best ones for that.
for the karplus u need better analog anyway,i just want a good CV controlol able delay and not a dull sounding like the analog one in a 200e

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Post by ndkent » Thu Jun 18, 2009 1:30 pm

I wanted one for years but couldn't afford a whole panel (I have a EC-FS already), wound up buying a bunch of longer range VC BBD modules.

Curious about the Karplus-Strong capabilities, so the range is short enough on the WAD? I know it can do it, but I mean do it in the sense it tracks pitch for a bunch of octaves or do it in the sense it makes wild quasi-pitched sounds that are cool?

Because I've learned from people raving about analog FM that some mean proper tracking stable waveforms when they say a VCO does FM well and some mean crazy noises that change with pitch.

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Post by cebec » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:03 pm

ndkent wrote: ...
but I mean do it in the sense it tracks pitch for a bunch of octaves or do it in the sense it makes wild quasi-pitched sounds that are cool?
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It's definitely not exclusively the latter but I'm not sure how much of the former. It's probably somewhere in between.

Also, it doesn't have a 'V/OCT' input but an output, instead, which is said "to permit controlling external VC filters easily." To be honest, I haven't done much with that, yet, and its operation depends on what's being fed to the 'VC F' input.

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Post by BananaPlug » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:11 pm

Here's another example of the WAD doing something other than "normal" delay. The chattering sound in the background is the WAD with the frequency shifter in the feedback loop. You can hear it most plainly at the end.

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Post by cebec » Thu Jun 18, 2009 2:22 pm

BananaPlug wrote:Here's another example of the WAD doing something other than "normal" delay. The chattering sound in the background is the WAD with the frequency shifter in the feedback loop. You can hear it most plainly at the end.
Nice!

Sounds like a mobile made of animal bones rattling in the breeze... or a flock of birds in a tight space.

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Post by smitty » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:12 pm

b3nsf wrote:man, I want this module paired with the Audio Interface, so sweet!
That's the other half of my case! Creature/Gator/Audio Interface/Wilson Analog Delay. When I get it in, I'll have to come up to SF for a Sergefest. :tu:

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Post by aetherpulse » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:42 pm

Looks like I have a few things to listen to when I get home from work!

I don't mind that the examples are with other modules. How it sounds and behaves on it's own isn't important. It's all in how it interacts with other modules. It's all part of a system, that's what I like about Serge.


Interesting about using the WAD for Karplus-Strong, Rex never mentioned that use...

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Post by bartlebooth » Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:57 pm

Here's another example of the WAD doing something other than "normal" delay. The chattering sound in the background is the WAD with the frequency shifter in the feedback loop. You can hear it most plainly at the end.
That was cool, BananaPlug ! Thanks for sharing it.

Also, when I talked to Rex about the WAD he advised me that in order to avoid it just sounding like a cosmic dishwasher (his words, obviously) he recommended to mix both audio and CV together and feed it in, that was when the real magic happens. I'm not sure now if he was referring to the CV ins for delay times and feedback or for the actual signal inputs. Since I don't have mine yet, I'm curious if anybody who has a Wilson delay could comment on this.

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Post by cebec » Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:05 pm

bartlebooth wrote: Also, when I talked to Rex about the WAD he advised me that in order to avoid it just sounding like a cosmic dishwasher (his words, obviously) he recommended to mix both audio and CV together and feed it in, that was when the real magic happens. I'm not sure now if he was referring to the CV ins for delay times and feedback or for the actual signal inputs. Since I don't have mine yet, I'm curious if anybody who has a Wilson delay could comment on this.
I forgot about that -- glad you brought it up! So, I just tried a slow triangle into the IN 2 (DC) with a signal to IN 1 and it fades from wet to dry. I changed the DC signal to an SQP row and it became something undulating. Then, I combined the SQP row with a very fast triangle in a DC mixer and got something really interesting. Finally, I decided to try mixing audio and DC and patching that to the VC DELAY and that was a good idea! I don't know if magic happened but it didn't sound like a cosmic dishwasher, either. It's definitely something I hadn't tried and seems like really fertile territory.

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Post by aetherpulse » Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:31 pm

Bananaplug and cebec: Those were great tunes!

Thanks very much for everybody's help and ideas. I think this is going to be the next module I get.

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