Metalbox Sequential Switch?

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Metalbox Sequential Switch?

Post by tragedybysyntax » Tue Jul 07, 2009 11:31 am

So i'm suprised that nobody on here ever talks about the metalbox S.S. I have one and FUCKING LOVE IT! Anybody else have one? Curious about some nutty patches you guys are running with it. Thanks! :)
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Post by Mood Organ » Tue Jul 07, 2009 1:14 pm

Oh hell yes. SS rocks. :sb:

I just did this patch where there were 2 sine waves (from Mankatos) modulating each other through a Mod/deMod. Complex CV going to Mix In on the Sequential Switch. SS Out and Inverted Out were going through VCS and also modulating the Mankatos. It sounded berserk :twisted:

Has anyone gotten 2 Sequential Switches and linked em up? I want 16 steps so I can do John Carpenter synth sequences

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Post by plord » Tue Jul 07, 2009 5:23 pm

I'm stuffing the boards to complete my quad SS. Still some weeks from completion (wiring the panel is going to SUCK).

With just the one SS and a pair of Binary Zones, you can take your 8 note sequence and generate all manner of gigantic sequences by hitting the inhibit and direction inputs with BZ output.

Or, if you had two SS and a BZ, take the 8 and 16 knobs on the BZ, one full CW one full CCW, then main out to inhibit on one SS and inverted out to inhibit on the other SS, clock everything from the same source, and you should be able to get them to alternate. Mix the outputs of the two SS together and there you go, 16 steps.

Killer module. That's why I want 4 of them :)

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Post by Luka » Tue Jul 07, 2009 7:47 pm

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Post by tragedybysyntax » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:12 pm

Curious of any ideas on how to make my sequential switch transpose @ the mix input. There an easy way to do this? certain gate pulse or?

Also... I've never gotten the direction jack to work since I bought this thing... how the fuck do i make it change direction... again... gate, pulse?

OH! Binary Zone..... I'm slimming my rack to a 10U. 2 rows of frac (sequential switch, 8008, pulse divider logic, cgs mixer, cgs super psycho lfo, miniwave, I/O)
Then a 4U banana panel to go with it. I have a potential 2 space slot open in the frac row to get the blacet binary zone kit and stick it behind a custom panel that's acid etched like the rest....... Most likely worth it to play with the sequential switch and pulse divider i'm thinking? :)
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Post by Mood Organ » Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:51 pm

tragedybysyntax wrote: Also... I've never gotten the direction jack to work since I bought this thing... how the fuck do i make it change direction... again... gate, pulse?
The direction CV input wants an AC signal (like an LFO). When the signal is in positive voltage, direction is right - negative voltage is left.

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Post by tragedybysyntax » Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:47 pm

Ahh! Thank you! :)
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Post by Mood Organ » Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:16 pm

It wasn't obvious to me either. Now the REAL fun can begin. :goo:

BTW, if anybody has any feedback patches using the SS I'd love to hear em

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Post by tragedybysyntax » Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:25 pm

I f'ng love my ss....... I'm thinking about possibly getting a blacet binary zone to have it play with.
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Post by Mood Organ » Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:27 pm

Same! If you get one, post up a sample.

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Post by DGTom » Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:31 pm

Get a BZ man, fucking rad module - I have 2! Love to us em as gate sequencers, Out & Inv. Out feeding two differant EGs you get mad patterns!

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Post by tragedybysyntax » Thu Oct 22, 2009 5:50 pm

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Bottom of page 9. I just got those done! Now to add the pushbuttons next to the input stages! :)
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Post by Kwote » Sat Oct 24, 2009 5:25 am

Still want an SS. Still want a 2nd BZ.
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Post by tragedybysyntax » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:49 pm

So alot of love for the BZ? I'm thinking now that I have the pulse divider and sequential switch... BZ would have a fucking field day with them two!!!
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Post by Luka » Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:56 pm

i cant wait to make my cgs sequential switch, im panneling it up with fonik's sequential switch. the both work opposite so it goes many to one and one to many.
is a binary zone just a random pulse and noise module?

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Post by tragedybysyntax » Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:23 pm

Dave Hylander just emailed me back! HE HAS THEM! 40 bucks including shipping. SOLD! She's on the way! :)
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Post by Cat-A-Tonic » Sat Oct 24, 2009 6:52 pm

Luka wrote:is a binary zone just a random pulse and noise module?
No, the Binary Zone is a pattern generator/frequency divider/weird sequencer/master clock.
Like DGTom, I also have 2 of them.
They work wonderfully with the Hex Zone (16 step sequential switch/sequencer), Divider & Logic, Window Comparator, CTL1, and just about any other sequencing accessory.
The Binary Zone accepts anything as a clock input.
It will play along in time with the audio from a drum recording.

The Hex Zone is a very different beast from the MetalBox/CGS Sequential Switch.
The Hex Zone lacks the CV Direction, and Inhibit functions,
but the switches on the HZ are reroutable in the sequence (via menu)
so that any switch can trigger on any step or even multiple steps.

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Post by DGTom » Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:12 pm

Luka, The BZ is a 4024 binary counter with all the outputs thru pots, buffered etc. its pretty much an extension of the old Synapse article 'Digital Pattern Generator'

http://www.blacet.com/dpg1.jpg

http://www.blacet.com/dpg2.jpg

Blacet does a few cool things to get the lag etc. & the Clock Input is a pretty interesting set-up, as Cat-A-Tonic says it will sync to just about anything! I often use it to 'condition' weak doepfer clock signals.

The core idea is mad simple, but, especially with a pair, you get really long, complex sequences. The reason having 2 is so much more than one is straight maths, 1 = 64 steps, 2 = 4096 (potentially) Can't wait to get the Frequency Divider bolted in with them :omg:

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Post by Kwote » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:00 am

Oh man, yes this is true. I use the BZ as my Master Clock umm... ALL THE TIME!
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Post by tragedybysyntax » Sun Oct 25, 2009 9:47 am

Well i guess I'll have to order the kit this week then... :)
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Post by tragedybysyntax » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:40 pm

So now that I have SPDT's to turn the stage input signal on or off... since the spdt has 3 legs... which leg would go to what? Would one side go to the pot, other side would go to the banana jack. Then center to ground?
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Post by DGTom » Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:53 pm

Oh, I just re-read the notes on CGS :doh:

the pots are on the front-end! Middle lug = inputs to PCB I1 - I8, one side of the switch = banana jacks, other side of switch = wiper of the pots!

The CCT. has one set of inputs, the switches select between one or the other; input jack or voltage from the pot.

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Post by tragedybysyntax » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:50 pm

so what about middle of the switch?
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Post by DGTom » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:54 pm

DGTom wrote:Middle of the switches = inputs to PCB I1 - I8
Logically if you did this;
one side go to the pot, other side would go to the banana jack. Then center to ground?
How would that work & what would you do with the 8 wires coming from the PCB?


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Post by tragedybysyntax » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:14 pm

Okay... sorry about asking again but, what about the resistors that were on the stage input jacks I took off?
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