Potential of The Harvestman Transcontinental Rails for 200e

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Potential of The Harvestman Transcontinental Rails for 200e

Post by momo » Thu Jul 09, 2009 9:32 am

This seems to be bubbling away on the horizon at Harvestman HQ

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Though not in paper form I presume :razz: So will it allow the 200e to be fluent across the Euro format? Vice versa? Has Volta stolen it's thunder somewhat? I had a daydream yesterday of interfacing a Hertz Donut with a 200e :eek:

I'd love to hear more from those more knowledgeable than I. Thanks in advance!

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Post by science » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:28 pm

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Post by science » Thu Jul 09, 2009 12:30 pm

If this ends up being what it appears that it will be to me, Volta can "suck it". Using a computer for anything more than MIDI sequencing kind of ruins the whole modular experience for me.

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Post by LDT » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:02 pm

How does Volta enter this picture? I thought the Transcontinental Rails was for interfacing Buchla with 1v/oct stuff like euro modulars. Not?

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Post by dougcl » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:06 pm

science wrote:If this ends up being what it appears that it will be to me, Volta can "suck it". Using a computer for anything more than MIDI sequencing kind of ruins the whole modular experience for me.
Agreed. I refuse to use a computer at all with the modular.

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Post by science » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:37 pm

LDT wrote:How does Volta enter this picture? I thought the Transcontinental Rails was for interfacing Buchla with 1v/oct stuff like euro modulars. Not?
I think they just meant that Volta can control both Buchla 1.2v/oct stuff and euro 1v/oct at the same time, which gives you a small amount of cross compatibility in that you can get the two systems to track together. Still doesn't really do much else though.

The Transcontinental Rails are far more capable as far as I can tell from what little I know of the capabilities of the module, and would offer true integration.

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Post by science » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:39 pm

Perfect timing on this module as well... now I'm even more excited about my incoming 200e, and definitely won't be ditching most of my euro gear as I was already starting to consider doing.

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Post by prscrptn » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:39 pm

momo wrote:This seems to be bubbling away on the horizon at Harvestman HQ

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I have been waiting for this module to become a reality...

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Post by science » Thu Jul 09, 2009 1:41 pm

...and one more thing since I can't edit posts. I can see this creating a lot more business for B&A, since it would now make a lot more sense for people to buy a 2 or 4 panel boat of Buchla modules to use with their euro systems - and not having to commit to a $10k+ purchase.

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Post by felix » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:35 pm

A big advantage to the TCR for me would be the adjustment of audio levels back and forth.

CV scaling is one thing (and the argument how Volta or some such other CV-generating device could fill in) is one thing, but audio levels back and forth is *very* convenient.
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Post by ex_dead_teenager » Thu Jul 09, 2009 4:37 pm

citizen mori wrote:i know a secret... :whistle:
I think I might know the same secret and it's awsome.

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Post by science » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:01 pm

I know someone wants to fill me in. Secrets suck :waah:

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Post by ex_dead_teenager » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:20 pm

All good things to those who wait. I don't want to steal Scott's thunder, also I'm not certain I know as much as Citizen Mori and I like surprises. 8_)

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Post by momo » Thu Jul 09, 2009 5:32 pm

science wrote: I can see this creating a lot more business for B&A, since it would now make a lot more sense for people to buy a 2 or 4 panel boat of Buchla modules to use with their euro systems - and not having to commit to a $10k+ purchase.
And here was I thinking this would be one of the more niche modules out there, I hadn't even considered the equation the other way around.

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Post by citizen mori » Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:10 pm

felix wrote:A big advantage to the TCR for me would be the adjustment of audio levels back and forth.

CV scaling is one thing (and the argument how Volta or some such other CV-generating device could fill in) is one thing, but audio levels back and forth is *very* convenient.
unfortunately the only concern is not scaling... it is critical to protect the 200e from excessive cv.

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Post by authorless » Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:13 pm

i have been looking at some of those 200e modules. and was just on the buchla website the other day trying to decide what i would get to fill a four or six panel boat.

...and i have a friend with a 200 and an easel... i feel this module is manditory for me.

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Post by authorless » Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:31 pm

also! you could use this to convert audio to cv in the 200e, no? can it handle audio-rate modulation?

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Post by science » Thu Jul 09, 2009 10:22 pm

Asked Scott about this module today in an e-mail regarding some repair work I'm having done on my Tyme Sefari, and it sounds like we won't be seeing it for quite some time :waah:

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Post by 2012 » Thu Jul 09, 2009 11:19 pm

excellent module!

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Post by NV » Fri Jul 10, 2009 1:03 am

It's been in development for quite a long time. The photo was originally posted over two years ago here:

I think it is a fantastic idea and one of the crucial missing links in a Buchla system. I figured Scott had simply abandoned the idea after so long, so I'm curious to hear what the "secret" people are mentioning turns out to be.

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Post by kkonkkrete » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:24 am

Is it just me, or is the idea of getting a handful of Buchla modules to wire into the spider's web that is a typical Euro system somewhat missing the point of the 200e?

I think half the beauty of the Electronic Music Box concept is that it is a self contained instrument.

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Post by 2012 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 2:28 am

kkonkkrete wrote: I think half the beauty of the Electronic Music Box concept is that it is a self contained instrument.
with patching limits

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Post by Lyonel » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:33 am

citizen mori wrote:unfortunately the only concern is not scaling... it is critical to protect the 200e from excessive cv.
Could you please develop on that, citizen ?
Has a future and newbie user, i am involved and afraid about bad amateurish patching.
Overloading CV ins (mixing CVs without 210e) could be disastrous ? :emt:
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Post by 2012 » Fri Jul 10, 2009 3:52 am

Its when patching 200e with non-200e systems u could damage eventualy your 30k 200e Lyonel.

But the problem ist that u could get interesting results by feedbacking on the 200e self like feeding the output from one filter into his own or another cv input for example,thats not possible due to the differend cv/audio connections used in the system,so an adapter panel could resolve this.

an adapter panel that does the conversion + cv limitting & canceling DC spikes would be ideal to extend sounddesign on a 200e on his own and interconected with other diy or retail modules.

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