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Serge Information and Purchasing
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transferpoint
Hey guys where do you buy your serge panels from? I've been looking online but can only find that serge-fans website with no links.

Can you guys hook it up?

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Edited to make things easier (1/10):


Rex (262) 367-3030

Serge Fans (Unofficial Homepage)
Carbon111's User Page
sascha.victoria
You have to call Rex. The number is on the Serge Fans Site but here it is again.

For more information and catalog call Sound Transform Systems at:
(262) 367-3030 (vox)
parasitk
We need to sticky a thread with this info, it gets asked A LOT around here.
sandyb
parasitk wrote:
We need to sticky a thread with this info, it gets asked A LOT around here.


thumbs up
transferpoint
didn't mean to make a sticky dude... muff... a little help? hihi
transferpoint
262 ?!!!

Damn, I live in madison, Wi. I know wiard is (or was?) based out of the milwaukee area but serge too?

Are they related at all?
prscrptn
edit.
sandyb
transferpoint wrote:
didn't mean to make a sticky dude... muff... a little help? hihi


don't worry! i made it a sticky. good to have the information in an obvious place as it does get asked fairly frequently.

sandy
cebec
transferpoint wrote:
262 ?!!!

Damn, I live in madison, Wi. I know wiard is (or was?) based out of the milwaukee area but serge too?

Are they related at all?



Hartland, WI. Nope, not related but I think they talk from time to time...
transferpoint
sandyb wrote:

don't worry! i made it a sticky. good to have the information in an obvious place as it does get asked fairly frequently.

sandy


Thanks sandy b!
shamann
Does anyone know the reasoning behind having no real web presence for STS?

Not saying it's a bad thng, just that it's a bit unusual when compared to every other manufacturer.
mono-poly
Because serge didn't need adverts for the past 30 years.
confusional
Redacted.
confusional
Redacted.
transferpoint
To a degree I agree with you however having a website could only benefit STS.

Either way... there is a certain intimacy a serge owner must feel with the company due to this form of minimal advertising. It is neat that he has survived solely on reputation and word of mouth alone.
parasitk
I think generally speaking Serge-Fans.com sits in the role of a semi-official website, and Carbon111's website fills in the gaps as a Serge user. The only thing that would be nice is to know the current prices without having to make a call – for me I'd rather call when I'm ready to make a purchase, not a year in advance! razz
confusional
Redacted.
J.w.M.
How about Serge repairs? Does anyone have recommendations for people who have some experience getting Serge systems back into good condition? CalArts has a Serge modular synth (pictured below) that's in need of some repairs. I think it might just be a case of replacing some pots and some jacks, but with a system like this, I might want to relegate that task to someone with a good bit of familiarity with working with and repairing Serge systems. Any infor at all would be appreciated!

parasitk
J.w.M. wrote:


Woah how come I've never seen a pic of this system before? Dead Banana

This almost makes me want to do my DIY panels in black.
smitty
J.w.M. wrote:
How about Serge repairs? Does anyone have recommendations for people who have some experience getting Serge systems back into good condition?


I think you might consider Kevin Fortune. He used to work with Rex in Oakland, and flies out to help him when he gets really swamped. I don't know his contact info, but give Rex a call. I'm pretty sure he still lives in the SF Bay Area.
cebec
eek! It's the Black Serge! we're not worthy

Here's more information. I thought it was only on Darrel Johansen's long gone page but it happens to be right here.
http://www.serge-fans.com/history_4.htm

Don't forget the Blue Serge, too!

parasitk
Cool read, thanks Cebec! I've seen the blue one before, but never this black one!
jetsetcrash
man it's not easy to search on here is it!
DedMousie
Rex has promised to get with me shortly to provide the most current pricing on Shop Panels and some other stuff for www.serge-fans.com. Will let you folks know when things have been updated.
Audio Resistance
Howdy, and welcome on your first post.

Thanks, for the heads up.

I do not think your prices are really that off from what I remember. Although the S-case and M-case are not represented yet.

Such an informative site however, I am always staring at it trying to plan my next purchase.


Cheers,
Rob
AntSev
When one clicks on 6. Wizardry, then the M-Class link, one is taken to the full 25 modules currently available. However, if one clicks on 7. Price List there are only 22 listed. The missing ones are the Control Generator, the Hex VCA Mixer, and the newest Klangshifter.

I placed an order in Oct, the prices of the modules were all correct, however, the power supplies were off. The PS4A was $800 and the PS6A was $1200 (I don't know about the PS2A). The PSDs are correct at $100. And lastly, the M-Boat Rack Mounting Chassis (M_ROX) are now $300 each.

I realize everyone wants to "hear it straight from the horse's mouth," but perhaps it gives you a little head's up.

Besides, you know how it is - I'm just sitting here passing the time waiting for the order to come! sad banana
toothless_wonder
Like Parasitik I have the same question !

For instance a Serge Animal , how much would this set us back ?

Anyone ? So STS is totaly ligit right ?!
parasitk
Yes, STS is totally legit! nanners
Audio Resistance
toothless_wonder wrote:
Like Parasitik I have the same question !

For instance a Serge Animal , how much would this set us back ?

Anyone ? So STS is totaly ligit right ?!


Rex at STS/Serge is one of the most legit guy I have ever dealt with period.

Animal panel will set you back close to $5000.00 by the time you buy a box(boat) and a PSU.
Reality Checkpoint
Rex is one of the planet's gentlemen. Beyond reproach.

My Creature, Sequencer A, M Boat and PS2A were $1499, $1500, $300 and $300, total $3599. Shipping to the UK was an extra $100, and 20 Pomona banana cables were $150. I will not tell you the customs charges as it still upsets me!

The order was finalised on November 2, 2009, and I had it here by November 24, 2009.

The customer service was beyond reproach, and when I find my second soul to sell I will be back for more.
desess
I'm just in the process of ordering an animal and Rex has told me that the shop business days are Tuesday through to Thursday. Just in case anyone wanted to know.
science
You can pick up Pomona cables for a lot less than that from several sources... or I'll happily sell some to you for 10% less than the $7.50 each you paid wink
desess
Ok finally collated custom mods available from Rex:
- Animal to Animoo (Ring Mod in Wave multiplier)
- TKB internal quantization
- Creature TGO(bipolar output instead of input)
- DTG's can have: SIGNAL IN, BI-POLAR OUT, CYCLE SWITCH or GATE BUTTON modifications.
- VCA's on M-class can be DC coupled insted of AC

Many thanks to fellow muffwigglers for all the info! As always ring Rex for all the info on these mods and correct or add to this list.

It's peanut butter jelly time! nanners It's peanut butter jelly time! nanners It's peanut butter jelly time! nanners It's peanut butter jelly time! nanners
ignatius
shamann wrote:
Does anyone know the reasoning behind having no real web presence for STS?

Not saying it's a bad thng, just that it's a bit unusual when compared to every other manufacturer.


i've heard that Rex is not very fond of the internet.. or email etc...

seriously, i just don't get it
desess
ignatius wrote:


i've heard that Rex is not very fond of the internet.. or email etc...

seriously, i just don't get it


I don't think that is the reason tbh. Rex does have an e-mail address which he replies very quickly from.. as for his lack of internet prescence I think it is simply because he gets enough work just from word of mouth with every Serge user acting as a salesman, with Egres, Quadslope and Carbon 111's pages all providing a sort of web prescence. Also Rex does inform and send info to Egres, I guess he is happy with the free advertising and doesn't need to pay for his own web site.
confusional
Redacted.
desess
bradleyallen wrote:



I think that's mostly true. He explained that he tries to stay out of the online huffing and puffing (not the actual words he used).

I wouldn't be surprised if those were the words he used. When I ordered the said the Animal "handled like a Ferrari" and "made chocolately smooth waves you could just chew on". hyper
ssgwiz
J.w.M. wrote:
How about Serge repairs? Does anyone have recommendations for people who have some experience getting Serge systems back into good condition? CalArts has a Serge modular synth (pictured below) that's in need of some repairs. I think it might just be a case of replacing some pots and some jacks, but with a system like this, I might want to relegate that task to someone with a good bit of familiarity with working with and repairing Serge systems. Any infor at all would be appreciated!



Kevin Fortune's info is: sereptech@aol.com, 510-301-8872
He does all pre-STS (triangle logo) repairs and restorations
Call Rex for references 262-367-3030
Shasta Cults
For future reference I also will work on Serge systems you can PM me through the group.

admin edit - sorry, please read the buy/sell rules thread

sandy
jsicp
Can anyone confirm that the prices on egres are up to date? (Specifically for Animoo, in case anyone knows).
Thanks
MechaSeb
jsicp wrote:
Can anyone confirm that the prices on egres are up to date? (Specifically for Animoo, in case anyone knows).
Thanks


I think the Animoo's price is correct. Some changes on the three VCO M-Panels as far as i remember... Better to call Rex directly though
ear ear
I know the chassis boxes for shop panels and M-Class panels come in two versions that are 2.5" or 4.5" deep, but I can't seem to find any other dimensions for Serge panels and boxes. What are these dimensions:

Width and height of a shop panel
Extent of knobs above a panel
Depth of feet under a chassis box
Clearance necessary under / at the side of a chassis box for the power cable
Clearance necessary above the surface of a panel to enable a single banana cable to be left in place inside a case without damaging the cable or the jack
Dimensions of the various power supplies
Anything else I've missed?

Sorry if this information is anywhere obvious that I have missed, and thanks in advance for any answers.

thumbs up
jsicp
MechaSeb wrote:
jsicp wrote:
Can anyone confirm that the prices on egres are up to date? (Specifically for Animoo, in case anyone knows).
Thanks


I think the Animoo's price is correct. Some changes on the three VCO M-Panels as far as i remember... Better to call Rex directly though



I see. Thanks for info.
DedMousie
jsicp wrote:
Can anyone confirm that the prices on egres are up to date?


Just a quick note: At this point, Rex now owns serge-fans.com

Not sure if/when he may update anything on there though. I still have full access to everything and have offered...
Babaluma
ooh, exciting! always wondered how someone with telephone-a-phobia (like myself) was supposed to contact him.

hope he does wonders with the serge site!
Mood Organ
science wrote:
You can pick up Pomona cables for a lot less than that from several sources... or I'll happily sell some to you for 10% less than the $7.50 each you paid wink


Could we list sources for Pomona cables here? Anyone?
confusional
Mood Organ wrote:
science wrote:
You can pick up Pomona cables for a lot less than that from several sources... or I'll happily sell some to you for 10% less than the $7.50 each you paid wink


Could we list sources for Pomona cables here? Anyone?


http://www.testpath.com/ Om

Grey B-4
Green B-8
Yellow B-12
Red B-18
Blue B-24
Purple B-36
noobyscooby
Testpath's great if you live in the States. Internationally, Mouser has a much better deal with free shipping and all duties and taxes paid for orders over $200. And they use UPS express. I'm in Canada, I once ordered cables once on Wednesday afternoon and they were on my doorstep Thursday morning. Crazy.
Mood Organ
It's peanut butter jelly time! Thank you! nanners
sascha.victoria
Serge people should read this thread several times before asking about configurations. There's a lot of very useful information in that thread.

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=53361&highlight=two+ panel+serge
hydrophilos
Does anyone know where you can get the raw aluminum panels that the serge uses with holes for building modules...

Thanks in advance,

Hydrophilos
PK
Hi,

I there a list somewhere of the PCBs possible to buy as well for the panels?

Thanks,

Pk
sandyb
PK wrote:
Hi,

I there a list somewhere of the PCBs possible to buy as well for the panels?

Thanks,

Pk


try these:

http://www.cgs.synth.net/pcb/bestofcgs.html

welcome to the forum
complexmodulations
How hard are those elby kits to put together? I've completed a few other DIY projects, but my soldering skills are not the best.
complexmodulations
SlayerBadger!
jzilla
is there a wait list for a serge?

thanks!
-j
sersch
Depends - ask Rex at STS.
jzilla
sersch wrote:
Depends - ask Rex at STS.
But then I'll be that much closer... Not sure if I'm ready! hyper
orbit audio
First post - hey all!
30ohm
jzilla wrote:
is there a wait list for a serge?

thanks!
-j


Yeah it depends on what you want. Rex usually has some units sitting around, but there's some solid deals in the buy/sell section right now - I'd check there.
ear ear
This seems to be worth re-posting in this thread:

Quote:
I think this is the third or fourth Creature I've had since getting into Serge. The first one was modded with a Bi-Polar jack on the right side of the TGO to replace the sig in. It was quite nice. The second one was stock with no mods, but also quite nice.

However, this fucking TGO right here is goddamn insane...like a cross between a TGO/PCO/DSG. I got this from Mr.Confusional in a trade and me oh my ooh la la...this Creature rips. There is a Rise/Both/Fall horizontal switch for the right side of the TGO where the cycle switch was and a blue vc/fm input instead of the black sig input. In addition to that, the 1v/oct input for the left side of the TGO has now been replaced with "VC IN 2" and it tracks way better than any of the previous TGO's I've had...much more a PCO stability-wise now. These are some seriously nice mods. Not sure what the price difference was for these but it's totally fucking worth it.
dennisvera
1st post!
Barnetric
hydrophilos wrote:
Does anyone know where you can get the raw aluminum panels that the serge uses with holes for building modules...

Thanks in advance,

Hydrophilos


I second this question. I understand that originally lots of Serge systems were built on standard grid panels with paper covering the unused holes.

All I can seem to find today on this site and elsewhere are completed panels or raw panels that different group buys have put together. This is all really cool, but I'd love to be able to design exactly what I want for a serge panel. I'm good at the solder side of things, terrible at mechanical work. I also live in a small apartment.

Is there a newbie thread for DIY serge that I'm missing about this?

Thanks!
Clockgate
There is a good chance I will be in Wisconsin in September. Does anyone know if Rex sells panels directly form Hartland? I know I would have to call Rex beforehand, but has anyone bought panels directly?

Also, is he still doing custom M-Panels?
Harry Tique
Greetings Serge aficionados!

I have, just out of test, calibration & 'burn-in', a spanking' new ANIMAL Shop 'S' series panel ~ with all the latest sonic upgrades! I will add in the Chassis (either Lo-Profile or standard depth) to sweeten the deal.

We can ship next day Air, via USPS, to the lucky individual, as we have once in a blue moon one of these highly sought after pieces available for immediate delivery.

Best to you all ....

Rex Probe

President
STS

(262) 367-3030 (T-TH afternoons CT)
sts7@sbcglobal.net

PS -- The "KRACKEN" is near!
PaulLawler
Is that Animal panel still available ? or any of the others for that matter ? smile
batchas
Chèr Rex, bienvenu!
Amitiés thumbs up
Harry Tique
PaulLawler wrote:
Is that Animal panel still available ? or any of the others for that matter ? smile


Hello Paul,

Yes, the Animal is available, if you wish.

Please contact me at sts7@sbcglobal.net
if you are interested.

Thanks,

Rex Probe
Detroit
Probe is a wriggler!
tojpeters
Welcome Rex.
I hope you stick around.
There is a 100 post rule before selling on this site.
I personally would let it slide for such an illustrious new user,but rules are rules.
Stick around,contribute.
You really are quite welcome here.
solaris
tojpeters wrote:
Welcome Rex.
I hope you stick around.
There is a 100 post rule before selling on this site.
I personally would let it slide for such an illustrious new user,but rules are rules.
Stick around,contribute.
You really are quite welcome here.


tojpeters
So you think rules are for the little people?
solaris
no I was just having fun, and I find that track is amazing.
tojpeters
So post still up,no further contributions.
I guess the rules ARE for the little guys.
Vsyevolod
There's a difference between posting stuff here for sale and a manufacturer or distributor pointing us all towards their front door. I've noticed Nik from Noisebug (I think that's who it was) posting similar info about what's now in. And he doesn't have 100 posts yet either.

Not sticking up for either of them, just saying it how I sees it.

Stephen




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sascha.victoria
tojpeters wrote:
So post still up,no further contributions.
I guess the rules ARE for the little guys.


I thought Rex's post was kind of lame. He controls Serge Fans and refuses to update that site. Then he comes here and he can make for sale posts in a forum and not follow the forum rules? The 2 aren't totally connected but somehow they are and it's lame.
Vsyevolod
Like I said, I'm not sticking up for Rex or anyone else. Though what I think of so-and-so will not enter into this conversation. FWIW, it does seem to me that the guidelines are being followed. I'm willing to be wrong on this one, as the moderators would have a better sense of it than me.

Stephen




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leeski
Bubbles Dead Banana
greenormal
Re digital availability - just wanted to say that I was slightly surprised to find that Rex proved very responsive when I contacted him using the email in this thread: I'd have called him anyway but being based in London the time difference/cost of doing so were a factor for making initial contact

Very impressed so far - and as a former Serge owner looking to get back into the format I needed little persuasion on the product front

:J
GrantB
Wait, Rex emailed you?

batchas
GrantB wrote:
Wait, Rex emailed you?

Everytime I needed something a couple of years ago from STS, I asked via email and Rex answered always very quickly and very friendly.
Mood Organ
batchas wrote:
GrantB wrote:
Wait, Rex emailed you?

Everytime I needed something a couple of years ago from STS, I asked via email and Rex answered always very quickly and very friendly.


Same here
sersch
+1
Vsyevolod
Wait... Rex has a computer?

Does he know about the Internet yet?

Stephen




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ModHiisi
Mood Organ wrote:
batchas wrote:
GrantB wrote:
Wait, Rex emailed you?

Everytime I needed something a couple of years ago from STS, I asked via email and Rex answered always very quickly and very friendly.


Same here


+ Thrice!

To anyone humming and ha'ing over should they contact/buy from 'Rex', because of the somewhat "under the radar" 'profile' of STS :

I have to say, that i've never gotten that level of "customer care" from anyone else. And also, based on my experiences within the last few years, i'd consider him a trustworthy seller of exemplary proportions..!
GrantB
Relax folks, I was just being sarcastic.

To those who don't know: for many years, one could not communicate with STS via the internet. I remember requesting the catalog by mail.
sersch
So did I 20 years ago.
From overseas.
And it was great when the catalogue arrived via snail mail,
together with a letter from Rex starting with:

"Dear Electronic Music lover!"
VisualMusic
hydrophilos wrote:
Does anyone know where you can get the raw aluminum panels that the serge uses with holes for building modules...

Thanks in advance,

Hydrophilos


First post - I don't have an answer but am looking for the same thing. I used Hammond 0.125" thick Aluminum panels for many modules on my third DIY synth, which were beefier than thin aluminum I used on my second. But I want to return more to the smaller tall format modules with a squarer aspect ratio.

I am happy drilling my own and doing the metal work and don't want the expense of buying completed panels if I can avoid it. Did you ever solve this or did you give up?

Cheers all regardless
phisynth
FWIW, Egres site seems to have been updated a bit regarding the prices of shop panels (no more prices on m-class apparently though)

Activity is so rare there I thought it was worth mentioning :

http://www.serge-fans.com/prices.html
Muff Wiggler
Rex didn't break any rules - he's not listing his stuff in BST, asking customers to contact him through the forum etc. He's an established business saying he has stuff for sale through his established business, and asking to contact him through his official channels at that established business if interested. This has always be ok to do here.

Oh and .... Hi Rex! Welcome Rockin' Banana!
batchas
batchas wrote:
Everytime I needed something a couple of years ago from STS, I asked via email and Rex answered always very quickly and very friendly.

Hmm... July 2016 update:

Harry Tique wrote:
Rex Probe

President
STS

(262) 367-3030 (T-TH afternoons CT)
sts7@sbcglobal.net

I tried with this address which used to work in the past, without success.
Does anyone have a recent working email address from Rex/STS please? I'm currently getting back all the messages I sent to him ("Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender").

I'd like to ask him if he could sell me 1 x Gain Cell for a repair that I'm doing on my old VCF2 (lopass is dead). Easier than having to replace it's transies even if the greater job is now done, unsoldering the cell from the main board.
I need the original pcb design (called the "clone" back then), not the CGS which is an adaptation (mostly other pins).

EDIT: reformulating like 4 times my message!

LAST-EDIT: update. Got an answer from Rex the next day to the email I sent via my gmail account. I could repair the Gain Cell, so no need to buy one, but Rex reacted right away and had a replacement cell if needed.
sersch
Just had a very nice email contact with Rex via his official sts7@sbcglobal.net
fonik
Hey, i just realized that the random"source page is not mentioned here. random*source provides PCBs, panels, boats, PSUs. It is still rather DIY-oriented, however, one could always ask for built stuff, i believe:

http://randomsource.net/
Infinity Curve
Rex is one solid dude!! Super responsive via email, complete tune up/calibration and upgrades on my Blue Voice, just over 2 weeks from the time I sent it out to when it arrived back to me, and he even put it in a new boat for me.

He's got the oscillators tracking 12 octaves eek!

Couldn't be happier.
nordlead
Infinity Curve wrote:


He's got the oscillators tracking 12 octaves eek!



Guess this is slightly derailing, however, I wonder how you measured this? When developping the R*S NTO / PCO we did a lot of measurements (also against a STS PCO as reference) using precision instruments and linear regression to determine the error in cents. These tests yielded that the original design is indeed quite precise - even by modern standards - and we were able to even slightly surpass the (STS) PCO in tracking (by a difference that would be hard to spot in real life), however I think 8 octaves of reasonable tracking is as far as I would go (and I believe Serge ever did and that's already pretty impressive). I'm not aware of any designer of (more) modern analog oscillators (e.g. Ian Fritz oder Thomas Henry) ever made any claims regarding 10, let alone 12 octaves ...

Might also be worth noting that whatever STS is selling under the Serge label is not licensed by Serge (as Serge himself has stated more than once).
batchas
12 octaves?

nordlead wrote:
Might also be worth noting that whatever STS is selling under the Serge label is not licensed by Serge (as Serge himself has stated more than once).

I keep reading that Rex is a thief, but I am wondering why nothing was done against him legally if he stole anything from anybody. I mean laws also exist in the USA against this kind of act, no?
nordlead
batchas wrote:


nordlead wrote:
Might also be worth noting that whatever STS is selling under the Serge label is not licensed by Serge (as Serge himself has stated more than once).

I keep reading that Rex is a thief, but I am wondering why nothing was done against him legally if he stole anything from anybody. I mean laws also exist in the USA against this kind of act, no?


I don't want to dive into this and I'm not speaking for or commenting on Serge's decision, but the litigation system in the US is rather unique - great if you are a litigation lawyer or have a few millions to gamble with ... And running a lawsuit from another continent...?

Anyway, the idea was not to start (another) Rex discussion, but I think that Serge's side deserves to be represented in this thread and people should be aware of the fact that STS products are not licensed by Serge.
Infinity Curve
To be clear, when Rex gave me the rundown on what was done when he sent it back, he noted he had them tracking 12 octaves. I haven't measured this myself, but they are noticeably better than before the service work.

I'm not really a super technical guy on this stuff, but guessing from the couple PM's and questions here this is a very bold claim?

As for the legitimacy of STS, this is honestly the first I have seen this questioned. I was always under the impression they were the legit Serge guys to deal with since they've been around forever.
revtor
STS is definitely legit. They've been making, refining and defining, the Serge system continually for decades, when no one else wanted to. Now that there's money to be made people are jumping in on it including Serge himself.

Slandering this guy (Rex) and his company, while he makes what people want, to support himself and the people who work for him is not cool in my opinion... seems to be getting more popular these days - especially by someone who is obviously trying to jump in on part of the market. --Lame--

-Steve
nordlead
revtor wrote:
STS is definitely legit.

You seem to know more than Serge. On what basis do you feel confident to make such claim?

revtor wrote:
They've been making, refining and defining, the Serge system continually for decades.

No one disputed that, however, it does not make it "legit".

As I said, I think people deserve to know - what they then do is up to them.
(Not blaming any STS customer - I'm one of them.)

revtor wrote:
--Lame--

Again, there's been enough Rex discussion and emotions on Muff in the past, so I don't see a need to revive this (or to get personal).
revtor
nordlead wrote:
revtor wrote:
STS is definitely legit.

You seem to know more than Serge. On what basis do you feel confident to make such claim?


----I claim it because STS has been creating synths for decades. No stories about people losing their money or synths not being delivered, unlike a few other mfr's in the past decade or so. From the customers standpoint, STS is definitely legitimate. Serge T. could have enforced his supposed "deal", I don't know the details, I'm not going there. I'd never stand up for someone ripping someone else off, but unless we get both sides of the story, bashing someone who's not here, ultimately to promote your own product, is not cool.


nordlead wrote:
revtor wrote:
They've been making, refining and defining, the Serge system continually for decades.


No one disputed that, however, it does not make it "legit".

As I said, I think people deserve to know - what they then do is up to them.
(Not blaming any STS customer - I'm one of them.)


nordlead wrote:
revtor wrote:
--Lame--

Again, there's been enough Rex discussion and emotions on Muff in the past, so I don't see a need to revive this (or to get personal).


----You're the one bringing it up and bashing. Im just standing up for the guy who's not here and who has provided synths to the community for decades. IMHO, you should sell your products on their merit, (which should be pretty easy) not based on building a public opinion of disrespect for someone else.


~Steve
Vsyevolod
To any interested enough to read this thread...

I am not making any money off selling Serge modules or systems. I am however familiar with many of the characters cited in this last part of the thread.

Serge did indeed have an agreement with Rex. Rex did not honour that agreement. At all. Zero. Zilch. Nada. Serge chose not to go after him with lawyers from across the world. Think of that what you may, it is actually what happened.

Still to this day, Serge speaks well of Rex. This says volumes about Serge the man and his character. Rex had a financial agreement with Serge and has not honoured it with a single penny. There are many other people creating Serge modules who are actually giving money back to Serge, though Rex is not one of them.

Stephen




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tobb
Vsyevolod wrote:
Rex did not honour that agreement. At all. Zero. Zilch. Nada.
Stephen
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Rex did send several panels to Serge for free,not a word from Serge since..
Vsyevolod
Post your proof. Either put up or shut it.

Stephen




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tobb
Stop with your out of thin air posts and spreading lies over and over again.
hemeroscopium
Anyone has mail to Rex that works ?
Reality Checkpoint
erenod wrote:
Anyone has mail to Rex that works ?


Last one I used was sts7@sbcglobal.net

I think it still works.
hemeroscopium
^ Nope, got bumped off the mail
cebec
That's the one I used, too and it worked within the last month.
MindMachine
Vsyevolod wrote:
Post your proof. Either put up or shut it.

Stephen

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Like a tracking number?

100P83788951011
sascha.victoria wrote:
tojpeters wrote:
So post still up,no further contributions.
I guess the rules ARE for the little guys.


I thought Rex's post was kind of lame. He controls Serge Fans and refuses to update that site. Then he comes here and he can make for sale posts in a forum and not follow the forum rules? The 2 aren't totally connected but somehow they are and it's lame.


Totally lame a dude who likely didn't know the deal even posts. Ran his ass off.

He probably likes playing blues bass in Chicago more than updating websites he offered to inherit and hardly even uses. Yet he dares to refuse to update the site. He obviously has no understanding of how entitled we feel to his efforts, or lack of!
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