Save the Animal Babies!

Important announcements about the forum and other Muffwiggler.com sites.

Moderators: Kent, Joe., luketeaford, lisa

Post Reply
User avatar
metasonix
Tube Pioneer
Posts: 4686
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:35 pm

Save the Animal Babies!

Post by metasonix » Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:29 pm

As a favor to Dave Lovelace for making art for a couple of my products, I decided that he deserved SOME kind of mention on Wikipedia. After all, his cartoon Retarded Animal Babies is one of the top rated animations on Newgrounds; is available on DVD; and is listed in IMDB.
Plus, Dave is a synth player and did the "Packrat" comics for KEYBOARD magazine.

Welll....when I looked in to it, I found myself in a minefield. Any attempt to recreate the RAB Wikipedia article was instantly and aggressively attacked, by just a few Wiki editors. Dave and his friends had tried to write a page in 2006, and it was deleted PERMANENTLY--but at the time, there were valid objections--it was a bit overlong, and had no citable references to make the subject "notable".

This time, I did have references--including 2 interviews with Dave. Plus, the fact that about the same time his Wiki article was banned, he received a gold record for making the video for Weird Al Yankovic's song "Virus Alert".

Didn't matter. I tried to ask the editors to allow recreation. I added references. I edited the page drastically. Was not rude or pushy.

No good. They sniped and sniveled. Even the page on "David Lovelace" keeps getting drive-by downgraded, by an editor named "Irishguy".


It would be a nice gesture if you guys would please, go to Wikipedia and post some support for Dave in the areas where his article's validity is being "debated".

Muff has listed the links here:

http://muffwiggler.blogspot.com/2008/02 ... -need.html

This has nothing to do with money. I am just doing a favor for a friend. His cartoons aren't as well-known as Happy Tree Friends, but I think they are MUCH funnier than HTF. Yet HTF has a long, long and detailed Wikipedia page. The (many) creators of HTF also have personal bios on Wikipedia, despite their rather obscure histories.

I feel that RAB deserves at least SOME mention. Not total non-existence....even if you feel RAB is offensive and juvenile (and it is!), the whole situation stinks of censorship and preferential treatment.

User avatar
Muff Wiggler
wait, what?
Posts: 7815
Joined: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:19 pm

Post by Muff Wiggler » Fri Feb 15, 2008 3:43 pm

thanks Eric - good info to have - but obviously alarming concerning the behaviour at Wikipedia.

It most certainly does amount to censorship - something that should greatly concern us all, regardless your opinion of the RAB cartoon.

Personally, I can't see how it could be more legit. Between IMDB and the Gold Record - god man. Just shows you what a poor source Wikipedia truly is. Sickening.

I updated my blog post with a link to this thread, so that people can get more info if they are interested. I hope they are.

Also I fixed the broken links in my blog post. Thanks Felix for pointing this out.

User avatar
felix
Loves the manuals!
Posts: 3865
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:05 am
Location: San Jose, CA

Post by felix » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:47 pm

These wiki guys are douche bags.

It also seems I'm too much of a n00b (just created an account today) to be allowed access to the discussion of the RAB removal.

I'm going to putz around editing some other pages over the weekend and see if that builds up my cred...or whatever...
dress yourself for the public. you now must exit your home and acquire a dental mirror and lubrication!
i recommend a hat, or a helmet. if a helmet, ensure that it is both convincing and unbiased. -citizen mori
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/78959
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/225002
https://jimdrones.bandcamp.com

zerosum
Modulation Maniac
Posts: 3752
Joined: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:49 pm

Post by zerosum » Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:21 pm

SHIT PLANET!!!

User avatar
metasonix
Tube Pioneer
Posts: 4686
Joined: Fri Aug 03, 2007 2:35 pm

Post by metasonix » Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:59 pm

If anyone else wants to post something favorable about RAB, you should be able to go to this link and use the Edit tab. Unfortunately, the admins locked it. Obviously they will not tolerate any further discussion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia: ... mal_Babies

I was under the impression that this kind of discussion was supposed to go on for a few more weeks. Apparently I was wrong. If Wiki admins want something dead, they kill it posthaste.

What an amazing bunch of assholes. So much for the "Free Encyclopedia".

User avatar
felix
Loves the manuals!
Posts: 3865
Joined: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:05 am
Location: San Jose, CA

Post by felix » Thu Feb 21, 2008 8:23 pm

Maybe we should petition Encyclopedia Brittanica to include RAB and then just rub it in wikipedia's face.
dress yourself for the public. you now must exit your home and acquire a dental mirror and lubrication!
i recommend a hat, or a helmet. if a helmet, ensure that it is both convincing and unbiased. -citizen mori
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/78959
https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/225002
https://jimdrones.bandcamp.com

User avatar
Muff Wiggler
wait, what?
Posts: 7815
Joined: Fri Nov 24, 2006 12:19 pm

Post by Muff Wiggler » Tue Jun 24, 2008 4:26 pm

:lol: that's awesome

Post Reply

Return to “Announcements - Please read!”