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solitud
When I've got evolved in modulars one year ago most of the fun was digging through modules and laying out sketches of the modular of my dreams.
The internet modularplanner was a big help and I was fiddling around with it a lot. Having fun with it I recognized that it lacks some features I really would have to see.
- A function to search for modules by type
- A system, where I could manage my modular sketches on other computers (at work)
- better readable Typo for my aging eyes
- a more community based kind of platform with a feedback channel to rate modules
- a more robust drag'n'drop interface (module collision detection, no modules hiding each other)
- no flash implementation, I am a mobile guy, you know iPads and stuff wink

Long story short: I wrote up some ideas and developed a web tool which meets more my needs and would like to present it to the community in a healthy beta state.
I would be very happy if some fellow wigglers would give it a test shot and give me some feedback about improvements or features.

Biggest problem: lack of content. To counter this I've implemented a form where everyone can submit new modules. They appear instantly on the site.
Would be a blast if actually someone would use this smile

Thanks, Knut

tl,dr;

http://www.modulargrid.net
John Noble
applause

Looking at it now!
exper
Beautiful design! If you can get some more modules in there, it'll be great!
solitud
exper wrote:
Beautiful design! If you can get some more modules in there, it'll be great!

Thanks, I hope the community will help to fill up the database. I am following a very open approach, where everybody can contribute without much authorization hassle ...
intellijel
This is great! Very fast too

I like that users can upload the details. Would be great if manufacturers could get special accounts to edit any posts made for their product lines.

I would also love if you could add the ability to make virtual patch wires.
sixtyten
Very nice duder! It's all contemporary and stuff and things.
bouzoukijoe1
wow thumbs up
elektrokick
Very, very nice! Submitted 2 modules already, doing more tomorrow applause
solitud
intellijel wrote:
This is great! Very fast too

I like that users can upload the details. Would be great if manufacturers could get special accounts to edit any posts made for their product lines.

The way it is: the person who submits a module is the only one who has all edit rights (even delete). Practical owns it. So hurry up to upload all modules wink
But for sure I can implement a manufacturer account or simply remap existing modules. Point is: I am not sure if people will like the planner enough and if I should put more time in the project ... will wait and see

intellijel wrote:

I would also love if you could add the ability to make virtual patch wires.

not planned in the near future ...
algorhythm
Bookmarked! Wow! This is great. thumbs up
elektrokick
One thing though: there should be an option the enter the module prices in both euros and usd, to avoid confusion thumbs up
haima
WOW. this is really awesome. great job!
solitud
elektrokick wrote:
One thing though: there should be an option the enter the module prices in both euros and usd, to avoid confusion thumbs up

Thanks for the uploads! Added US prices to feature list.
bouzoukijoe1
I love the YouTube auto search. woah
haima
some more ideas:

- should have +ve and -ve current fields.


EDIT, never mind - I realised you can select multiple module types...

*** should have "function generator" or "multi-function" as a module type - I didn't know where to put maths! ***
solitud
haima wrote:
some more ideas:

- should have +ve and -ve current fields.


EDIT, never mind - I realised you can select multiple module types...

*** should have "function generator" or "multi-function" as a module type - I didn't know where to put maths! ***


o.k. added function generator
haima
also - i guess there's a slight issue as now there's two "maths" in the database...

maybe make it so you can't add a module that has the same name?
haima
also - maybe a field for "URL" that could link the manufacturer webpage?

sorry for all the feature requests - you've done an amazing job!
solitud
haima wrote:
also - i guess there's a slight issue as now there's two "maths" in the database...

maybe make it so you can't add a module that has the same name?

good idea, will implement such a function. didnt expect that wigglers upload so fast!
defenestration
could there possibly be private modules? I certainly would like to make entries for many of my DIY modules to make rack planning easier but there is no reason to have those modules be publicly accessible and cluttering up the public database

AND THANK YOU!! w00t MY ASS IS BLEEDING
simfonik
Very cool!

I added a module and some comments on initial observations.
solitud
defenestration wrote:
could there possibly be private modules? I certainly would like to make entries for many of my DIY modules to make rack planning easier but there is no reason to have those modules be publicly accessible and cluttering up the public database

AND THANK YOU!! w00t MY ASS IS BLEEDING

This feature is not planned, but I will consider it. In the meantime: don't be shy and show your work to the community!
simfonik
@ jnlkrt - can you submit a better cropped image of the DPO? Those white edges are going to drive me nuts. hihi
simfonik
More suggestions:

UTF-8 support
Currency option
Floats on depth field
defenestration
solitud wrote:

This feature is not planned, but I will consider it. In the meantime: don't be shy and show your work to the community!


I'm only building other people's designs other than very simple things. For popular DIY designs that have 'stock' panels (some hexinverter, L-1, random looping sequencer, etc.) it makes sense to have a public entry, but my 18hp dual tabula rasa and my 33hp sympleseqs and various 4-8hp utilities would mainly just be clutter, and perhaps be confusing to newcomers browsing the database. I have no qualms making public entries for them but might get annoyed by similar entries by other users when I'm browsing the database looking for 'manufactured' modules - perhaps a tag for 'manufactured' vs 'DIY'?
simfonik
I agree w/ defenstration. It doesn't make much sense to have public database entries of modules that aren't publicly available.
haima
Maybe change the module type "clock generator" to "clock related" or something...

the RCD isn't a clock generator strictly speaking....
intellijel
You should add a paypal donation button to help support the project!
haima
intellijel wrote:
You should add a paypal donation button to help support the project!


great idea!
jnlkrt
simfonik wrote:
@ jnlkrt - can you submit a better cropped image of the DPO? Those white edges are going to drive me nuts. hihi


yeah, will do that later.. wink

also need to take a good pic of my QMMG, did not find one online, just the drawing.
jnlkrt
bug report: replaced fotos show up in module view, but in the planner the first upload is still used..

smile
elektrokick
Some of the missing manufacturers:

- David Jones (or is it Jones Video?)
- Synthetic Sound Labs
- Trogotronic
- XAOC Devices
bodo
damn, looks really great and dangerous!
synthcube
This is awesome
Doesn't it seem that this functionality could be married with the rack planner content that's been in the works for a couple years, to avoid duplication of module submission? Seems like all those modules, in all the formats, built out with this web functionality, would be awesome. How do you get all these guys with parts of the solution together on the phone or in person to sort it out? You've got this one, rickyho, Doug, the rack planner guys, etc.
jnlkrt
Expert Sleepers is missing as well..

Maybe it would be a good idea to make all fields mandatory when adding a module.. maybe kick all modules with missing field out so they are re-entered?
daverj
elektrokick wrote:
Some of the missing manufacturers:

- David Jones (or is it Jones Video?)
...


Technically it's "Dave Jones Design", but various distributors are listing it as "Jones" or "Jones Video" at this point. And people are more likely to look for it under "Jones" than "Dave..."
madcap
thumbs up
Right now, each time I select a module it takes me back to the rack iew. It'd be nice to be able to select several modules at once. I own several intellijel modules, but have o filter for each module.


I really dig it sir!!! Very ool!
n0rd
haima wrote:
intellijel wrote:
You should add a paypal donation button to help support the project!


great idea!


Don't do this. Paypal "Donate" is for non-profit / charities only - and you must prove so or risk having account(s) frozen.

I'd like an easy way to "help" people on small projects like this but paypal "donate" is not the way.
negativspace
I think a section for 'Commercial DIY' is a good idea. Something like the ResEQ will have sold, after I ship the next batch, about 180 units. That's well more than many production modules, and I think it should be in the planner because it's obviously in a lot of synths.

I'm happy to upload the Clarke69 panels I have photos of as well as photos of my own publicly-run panels.

I don't think you need a section for individuals' one-off DIY modules, although an ability for users to keep custom module lists that are not made public might be cool.
kimu
great job! well done!

why don't you link to the eurorackdb to get infos and pics?

http://eurorackdb.com/node/h_module_list
solitud
Thank you all for the many comments! It´s quite overwhelming and I didn´t expect it. Instead of replying to every single post I will make a list of all feature requests and bugs, prioritise them and deploy the urgent ones this weekend. I am really excited about the positive feedback, thanks again, Knut
kimu
thumbs up Guinness ftw! SlayerBadger!
magisterludi
n0rd wrote:
haima wrote:
intellijel wrote:
You should add a paypal donation button to help support the project!


great idea!


Don't do this. Paypal "Donate" is for non-profit / charities only - and you must prove so or risk having account(s) frozen.

I'd like an easy way to "help" people on small projects like this but paypal "donate" is not the way.


You can use http://flattr.com/.
Mefistophelees
Excellent, Thanks!
SYN7HOR
Wow, really good! I can almost build my whole system already! Very fast and user-friendly too.

Great work.
Hainbach
I love it! So smooth and clean.
Protofrangiste
Great work Knut! applause
Thank you for that!
It grows quickly!
udbhav
Very very nice, bootstrap FTW!
lessavyfav
I am wondering how to deal with the wrong pictures being posted? Is it possible to add a "send message to module poster" or "report module in accuracy" type function? The a-190-1 midi to cv /clock module has what appears to be a photocopy of a Pittsburgh delay or something as the art.
lessavyfav
Polivoks filter as well. The Harvestman one. :-)
solitud
lessavyfav wrote:
I am wondering how to deal with the wrong pictures being posted? Is it possible to add a "send message to module poster" or "report module in accuracy" type function? The a-190-1 midi to cv /clock module has what appears to be a photocopy of a Pittsburgh delay or something as the art.

The report function will come.
The photocopy style image is the "default" image for modules without image.
Jaspo
Excellent work!

I would scrub all characters under ascii 48 (including space) in the database search index and the search field.

A152 = A 152 = A-152
solitud
First update

Content
- Added requested Vendors and assigned unknown/other modules:
Expert Sleepers
Dave Jones Design
XAOC Devices
Trogotronic
Synthetic Sound Labs
DinSync
CGS
Greg Surges
J3RK
L-1
AMSynths

Wording:
- relabeld the fields in the uploadform: Depth in mm, Price in €. There will be a solution for USD and inches soon.

Bug Fixes
- UTF8 Support, display all the μ, ß, ä, etc.
- reuploaded images show up in the planner now

New features
- Adopt a Module. There are some modules from an automatic import, like the zillion Doepfers. Because they where not submitted by an user they belong to no one. Now Its possible to adopt these Modules, update their stats and images.
- embedded a Flattr donation badge. If someone likes to support the project with money it´s now possible. Although I prefer support in kind of an active community.
- fixed several Bugs, probably introduced some new ...
Otium
Wow! Really great job. I hate flash! I'd say, you just ran in open doors and corrected everything that sucked on modularplanner.co.uk (although they also did a good job).

Just added some modules.

I recognized, that in Chrome on a Mac, I can put my modules some TE over the right border of my 84 TE Rack. I think, it still has 84 TE, but the Rack Picture seems to be too small.

How about the possibility of setting racks to private?
radiokoala
bouzoukijoe1 wrote:
I love the YouTube auto search. woah

I agree, that is totally nice. thumbs up
solitud
Otium wrote:
Wow! Really great job. I hate flash! I'd say, you just ran in open doors and corrected everything that sucked on modularplanner.co.uk (although they also did a good job).

Just added some modules.

I recognized, that in Chrome on a Mac, I can put my modules some TE over the right border of my 84 TE Rack. I think, it still has 84 TE, but the Rack Picture seems to be too small.

How about the possibility of setting racks to private?

Thanks! The drag n drop issue is a known bug. On my list categorized as "minor graphical glitch" wink I will fix it, but not asap.

Private racks? Is this really necessary? We had the discussion about private modules. This always leads to consecutive problems "what happens if a private module is assigned in a public rack?"

I am open to any suggestions, but at the end the interface should stay as simple as possible.
Perhaps we collect all feature request in a list and vote about.
Mefistophelees
BUG - solved!

I was getting weird alignment issues with some modules.


I had zoomed in and out and it looks like it had screwed up the mage scaling.

Reloading in a new tab appears to have fixed it.
elektrokick
Edit: Splendid applause
Otium
solitud wrote:

Private racks? Is this really necessary? We had the discussion about private modules. This always leads to consecutive problems "what happens if a private module is assigned in a public rack?"

I am open to any suggestions, but at the end the interface should stay as simple as possible.
Perhaps we collect all feature request in a list and vote about.


Maybe you're right. It's maybe not that kind of information, that needs to be private. As long as there are no penis-modules... hihi
steffensen
Just added a bunch of modules. Good planner all in all!

Im also curious about adding personal/official DIY modules.. i dont mind if they are open for the public, but as some are clones im not sure if its always a good idea?
jnlkrt
i like how the community/interactive aspects get everyone on board and helping! smile

btw: please add a category "CV interface" for the Expert Sleepers stuff. thanks!
elektrokick
Another category suggestion: Expander
jnlkrt
solitud wrote:
Bug Fixes
- UTF8 Support, display all the μ, ß, ä, etc.
- reuploaded images show up in the planner now


damn, re-added DPO and modDemix to correct photos before reading this.. sorry everyone, these two will vanish from your racks and need to be put in again..
seank
this is so awesome! thank you.
pipwilliams
Awesome!!
jnlkrt
bug report: re-editing a module will delete all attributes/categories..

category requests: LPG, Pitch Shifter

thanks again for the great idea and work!
solitud
jnlkrt wrote:
bug report: re-editing a module will delete all attributes/categories..
!


uups. Thanks for the report, fixed it.

jnlkrt wrote:

category requests: LPG, Pitch Shifter

thanks again for the great idea and work!

added
GodMadeUsFonky
I like it.

Another missing manufacturer is: Abstract Data
solitud
GodMadeUsFonky wrote:
I like it.

Another missing manufacturer is: Abstract Data

added
GodMadeUsFonky
Oh, and 'Snazzy FX'
seank
i'm uploading modules like a motherfucker. this is how it should have been all along.
elektrokick
I want to suggest that people use the same nick in the grid as here. That way it will be easier contacting the module uploader regarding possible errors in the information fields (or with the pic) thumbs up
dougcl
seank wrote:
i'm uploading modules like a motherfucker. this is how it should have been all along.


Hi folks, beware that we are now in the process of building at least three duplicate copies of the eurorack module database.

http://squiggletronics.com/files/RackPlannerModules/browse.php
http://eurorackdb.com/
http://www.modulargrid.net/

There is no reason for this, and it is not the way forward.

All developers, including planner developers and database developers need to support module import and export, using the existing RackPlanner module zip format specified in the first post here:
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54811

This at least allows us (you) to recover your effort in one database and apply it to another.
n0rd
I agree!
daverj
I've been thinking the same thing as Doug as I read through this thread. There are now several rack planners and several databases of modules.

It would be ideal if there was one central database of modules, of all formats, with large enough pictures to be used by any planner, and all the needed fields of data that any planner might want. If a planner wanted a local database they could import from the central one on a regular basis. Or simply import and query on demand via something like XML.

The planners then would be front ends for the database, with the particular features that planner designer wanted. But we wouldn't end up with multiple databases with possibly different or incorrect data in them. One planner might only support one format, while another might support multiple formats. That would be up to the designer of that front end. But the database could support all formats, even obsolete ones.

Or if there's no way to get all the database designers to work together, at least import/export could be used to reduce duplication of effort.
dougcl
daverj wrote:

Or if there's no way to get all the database designers to work together, at least import/export could be used to reduce duplication of effort.


In either case, a distributed system in which several databases exist (including maybe a local one on your PC), or a centralized one, that all planners interact with, a standardized module format is necessary.

The single central source is a higher order of organization than the distributed system, and so the former should develop only on the foundations of the latter. In other words, at this point, a distributed system is more likely than a centralized one. A centralized system should evolve naturally from a distributed system, if at all.
solitud
I am all in when it´s about APIs and REST. But I think xml in a zip shell is a thing of the past. I am happy to provide an API where other people can query the modulargrid database and get a JSON object (or not so preferable XML) for their projects. Especially I am very aware that the content is uploaded by the community and belongs to the community.

A centralized database would be nice and ideal but hard to realize. Who wants to decide who can edit, upload content and who not. Who wants to review the changes. What kind of technology will be used? Hottest web tech today is old nuts tomorrow.
I think, what people like on the modulargrid is the instant and light approach:
module is missing, I add it, its there.
Not easy to achieve with a centralized system ...
dougcl
solitud wrote:
I am all in when it´s about APIs and REST. But I think xml in a zip shell is a thing of the past. I am happy to provide an API where other people can query the modulargrid database and get a JSON object (or not so preferable XML) for their projects. Especially I am very aware that the content is uploaded by the community and belongs to the community.

A centralized database would be nice and ideal but hard to realize. Who wants to decide who can edit, upload content and who not. Who wants to review the changes. What kind of technology will be used? Hottest web tech today is old nuts tomorrow.
I think, what people like on the modulargrid is the instant and light approach:
module is missing, I add it, its there.
Not easy to achieve with a centralized system ...


Unfortunate. You can see what we are up against.
elektrokick
I have to say that I've had no problems with adding modules to the library using eurorackdb.com (or the manufacturers webpage) as a reference. I find the open nature of it very enjoyable tbh. If a new module is not there yet you can add it right away instead of waiting for someone else to do it.

As long as people are willing to do it, and make sure that they enter the correct information about the module they're submitting (and don't spam the library with several submissions of the same module ofc), I think the system will be clean and effective.
John Noble
I'll keep running the database as long as it doesn't cost more than than a couple of Doepfer modules/year (which is about what it costs now) and there are enough users to justify it. Needs vary, and I don't see much equivalency between my site and the others--we serve different purposes in different ways.

A few general observations:

1) Compiling accurate data and maintaining its integrity is hard.

2) Interchange transports don't matter, within reason.

3) This stuff costs money to run, and all the developers have different thresholds of pain, different goals, and different priorities when it comes to spending their money.

4) Time is money, see (3) above.

I'm working with the gentleman behind http://eurorackplanner.com to supply his users with data from my site, which I hope will simplify life for him and everyone who uses his site. I'm also a RackPlanner user and will continue to make RP module files available. I'll do the same for RichyHo's planner if the program needs a different data format from RP (that seems to be in question atm).

If any of the above didn't make sense, blame the NyQuil hangover. zombie
dougcl
John Noble wrote:

I'm working with the gentleman behind http://eurorackplanner.com to supply his users with data from my site


Right. I forgot that one. We have four euro databases in development. I suppose we can also assume that RichyHo's system is operating on another database.

Anyway. The great thing here I think is that we will have a lot of standards to choose from! Also, with every database developer convinced that they will be the sole source of data, we will have a lot of data to choose from!

I also really appreciate the idea of scrapping a nascent standard because it is expressed in XML, with the net result being another new standard. The new JSON standard (yet to be established) will offer more meaningful functionality to the end user, clearly. End users know when their module selection is being handled by a web service or a rest interface, and they appreciate the difference.

I suppose I could try bribing you guys.

$100 to every database developer here that supports module import and export in the established RP format.
jnlkrt
i love to finally be able to be as OCD about a rack plan as i really am.

http://www.modulargrid.net/modules/view/340

lol.. eek!
thebrotherspus
Any way to make rows wider than 168hp?
My case has 169hp rails.
n0rd
Suggestion: Change 'on hover' description to module specs and not module description for modules in the rack.
steffensen
nothing.
reppiks
Wow, this is fast and slick!

Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I can't seem to rearrange any modules in my rack unless there's a big enough gap to move them into...??
solitud
reppiks wrote:
Wow, this is fast and slick!

Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I can't seem to rearrange any modules in my rack unless there's a big enough gap to move them into...??


Yes, thats a current limitation sad banana
jnlkrt
reppiks wrote:
Wow, this is fast and slick!

Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but I can't seem to rearrange any modules in my rack unless there's a big enough gap to move them into...??


yeah, no overlapping.. would be cool if one could move modules out of the rack.
elektrokick
I can move my far right modules a bit outside the case in my browser (Safari). Don't know if that's a bug or not but it makes rearranging a full rack a little easier.

Edit: Pic

stromcat
This is great. Like that I can view other people's systems too!

The only major issue as far as I'm concerned is the same thing mentioned above - I need to be able to rearrange a full rack, which isn't possible at the moment. Alls I would want is the option to temporarily move modules outside the case just to make space to work. Can this be done?
solitud
elektrokick wrote:
I can move my far right modules a bit outside the case in my browser (Safari). Don't know if that's a bug or not but it makes rearranging a full rack a little easier.

This is a bug. Now it's a feature!
solitud
New Update:

Module Browser
Vendor is now an oldschool dropdown (with some JS magic involved).
Wigglers can now instantly see which vendor is available.

Module View
The Manufacturer Name in the Module Detail View is now linked back to the Module Browser.
Click on this Link shows all Manufacturer related Modules.

Racks
Racks max width is increased to 172 HP

XML Export
In the Module Detailview is now a link to export Module Data in "Muffwiggler XML Format" (is this the official name of the specification?)
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54811

Although the format differs a little from the scheme:
Prices on modulargrid are currently in EUR only, so:
priceUSD -> priceEUR

Instead of embedding an Image I put a link to it, so:
moduleImageFilename -> moduleImageUrl

The current XML scheme supports only one kind of Voltage, some Euro modules accept 5V and 12V (?), so:
if module accepts 5V -> export 5V
if module accepts 12V -> export 12V
if module accepts 5V and 12V -> export 12V

@dougcl: Maybe you can extend the scheme with the fields priceEUR and moduleImageUrl?
MadGav
Hi Knut,

Really like what I see! From my personnal perspective it would be really handy to see module power in the roll-over popup and/or be able to list modules in the rack with power. (One 650ms G6 here so barely enough power to go around wink

On the XML front, a (single) standard may outweigh the quality of the standard, and my worry with JSON is that it isn't at all friendly to non-web platforms whereas XML support is pretty ubiquitous?

Martin
flashheart
Very slick site. One thing though, is it possible to edit module info, or at least flag errors? The Cyclebox is currently appearing in the Intellijel lookup.
exper
flashheart wrote:
Very slick site. One thing though, is it possible to edit module info, or at least flag errors? The Cyclebox is currently appearing in the Intellijel lookup.


Haha, that's probably to cover our OCD! There is a Cyclebox under Cylonix, but there's also one with the Intellijel logo under Intellijel!
GodMadeUsFonky
the only real flaw is the flagging thing, because now there are modules wiith wrong names, info or without pictures.

a small streamlining thing would be having an autocomplete in the module name field
seank
also, it would be awesome if i didn't have to login every time i use the site. or is that just me?
goiks
nice work.

my case is 174 hp.

unless i'm missing it, the ability to zoom out would be helpful.
jnlkrt
goiks wrote:
nice work.

my case is 174 hp.

unless i'm missing it, the ability to zoom out would be helpful.


it`s programmed in some fancy new stuff (html5?) so everything gets scaled with the standard browser zoom, functionality remains.

BTW you guys should team up and get your`s and ross`cases in there! wink
solitud
It´s HTML5. In a modern browser like Chrome cmd + and cmd - should zoom in and out.

Rack Size: I have to limit the rack width at some point, else the database or you computer explodes.

What do you think is a realistic max width for the racks?

Error flagging will come, Module Popover Info will be enhanced.

For autologin I have to save your password in a cookie. Although its no online banking site I do not feel comfortable to do this. Modern browsers should at least remember the password ..
lloydcole
This is great.
I've added the modules that I have in my first rack which were missing from the database. At the same time selfish and (hopefully) helpful...
I'll email the manufacturers to get current draw and depth and edit ASAP.
dougcl
solitud wrote:

XML Export
In the Module Detailview is now a link to export Module Data in "Muffwiggler XML Format" (is this the official name of the specification?)
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=54811


"Module XML" is fine.

solitud wrote:

Although the format differs a little from the scheme:
Prices on modulargrid are currently in EUR only, so:
priceUSD -> priceEUR


Price is not a great item to include, but if you do, please normalize to USD using the current exchange rate. Otherwise, we end up adding tags for every currency.

solitud wrote:

Instead of embedding an Image I put a link to it, so:
moduleImageFilename -> moduleImageUrl


Please put this in the links section that is already supported.



solitud wrote:

The current XML scheme supports only one kind of Voltage, some Euro modules accept 5V and 12V (?), so:
if module accepts 5V -> export 5V
if module accepts 12V -> export 12V
if module accepts 5V and 12V -> export 12V


Yes.
nomass
This is great! I've been playing with it and adding stuff all morning -- er, whoops it's afternoon now!

I've got a few questions/suggestions:

1. It would be nice to be able to see two or more racks on the same screen. This would make it easier to rearrange your system.

2. Euro is fine for the price, but it might be worth posting a best practice for computing the value of modules manufactured in the US where the euro value fluctuates against the dollar.

3. I'm not quite sure how to deal with prices for modules that are no longer manufactured. In these cases I left the field blank. Perhaps an in/out of print field would be nice.

4. This is a long shot, but what the hell. It would be cool to have frac or other formats represented. My system is almost exactly half frac. In fact, I don't think either my frac or euro modules alone make very complete or sensible systems.

In any case, thanks for making this thing.
tonnu
really fresh stuff!

haven't used it exhaustively but i'd recommend the following:

- different skins for the racks (i.e. monorocket!)
- as much as i like the thumbnail browsing of the modules with some things it could get too long (like for doepfer)--it'd be great if there's a choice for scaling down thumbnail or view a list instead of full thumbnails
- the scale of this is bigger than eurorack planner--for me it's OK but i'm having trouble imagining what will those with rows longer than, say, 104hp do? it will fill up their screen ...
John Noble
dougcl wrote:

solitud wrote:

The current XML scheme supports only one kind of Voltage, some Euro modules accept 5V and 12V (?), so:
if module accepts 5V -> export 5V
if module accepts 12V -> export 12V
if module accepts 5V and 12V -> export 12V


Yes.


You need -12V too.
intellijel
It would definitely be nice to be able to put in the USD MSRP price.

The Euro prices for American manufacturers is often marked up quite a bit due to VAT and even after that it is not usually a direct match for the USD (via current exchange rate ) MSRP.

Maybe have two fields so that one is for Euro and one is for USD and we can fill in the appropriate one?
stromcat
solitud wrote:

This is a bug. Now it's a feature!


Sadly the bug doesn't work on here - can't complain as this is great and totally free, but definitely would like a way to rearrange full racks. On the Modularplanner I would always put modules aside in the lower fourth rack while rearranging...being able to move them to just underneath the modular onscreen would be ideal.
dougcl
John Noble wrote:

You need -12V too


Can you explain why?

Please consider populating the attributes we have already.

I can see already that data coordination is going to be an issue due (at least) to the manufacturer name used. Since we aren't maintaining an authoritative list of manufacturers in the XSD (and we can't really) all db developers will of course use whatever comes to mind instead of checking with each other first.

May the best DB win! lol
dougcl
intellijel wrote:
It would definitely be nice to be able to put in the USD MSRP price.

The Euro prices for American manufacturers is often marked up quite a bit due to VAT and even after that it is not usually a direct match for the USD (via current exchange rate ) MSRP.

Maybe have two fields so that one is for Euro and one is for USD and we can fill in the appropriate one?


Tracking price is actually a horrible idea. Tracking more than one currency is even worse. I hope that's clear to anyone who reflects on it for a moment.
Vcoadsr
Just noticed this thread, registered and got my modular plan going. Brilliant website.
So pleased it works on my iPad!

Nice work.
solitud
nomass wrote:

4. This is a long shot, but what the hell. It would be cool to have frac or other formats represented. My system is almost exactly half frac. In fact, I don't think either my frac or euro modules alone make very complete or sensible systems.

Would like to do that but I have no experience in other formats. The main difference in conjunction with the web app is different proportions of the modules?

tonnu wrote:

- different skins for the racks (i.e. monorocket!)

I was already experimenting with this at a very early stage. It´s doable. The main problem: I need good photos of the empty racks shot frontal!
I can not do this, can wigglers help?

tonnu wrote:

- the scale of this is bigger than eurorack planner--for me it's OK but i'm having trouble imagining what will those with rows longer than, say, 104hp do? it will fill up their screen ...

Already mentioned. Use the zoom function of your browser. cmd +, cmd -
Because some people asked this: There will be a hint, when you edit or add a rack ...
stromcat wrote:

On the Modularplanner I would always put modules aside in the lower fourth rack while rearranging...being able to move them to just underneath the modular onscreen would be ideal.

This is not easy, but its on the list.

dougcl wrote:
John Noble wrote:

You need -12V too

Can you explain why?

I really have no clue about volts. Do we need this field desperatly or not?
intellijel wrote:
It would definitely be nice to be able to put in the USD MSRP price.

Many people have asked for it so I can not ignore it. I am thinking about an easy solution wich will not lead to data exchange and ui hell..

dougcl wrote:

Price is not a great item to include, but if you do, please normalize to USD using the current exchange rate. Otherwise, we end up adding tags for every currency.

I don´t want to query exchange rates. Solution: removed price from xml

dougcl wrote:

Please put this in the links section that is already supported.

Done
dougcl
solitud wrote:

I don´t want to query exchange rates. Solution: removed price from xml


Best answer.
John Noble
dougcl wrote:
John Noble wrote:

You need -12V too


Can you explain why?


A great many modules' -12V current consumption is different from their +12V consumption. Tip Tip uZeus power supply users (like me) and others who have tighter constraints on the negative supply are highly interested in this.

Furthermore, there are quite a few modules that do not require -12V at all. Make Noise Barrel Power users and others who want to run modules on simplified power supplies find this kind of information invaluable.
jnlkrt
John Noble wrote:
dougcl wrote:
John Noble wrote:

You need -12V too


Can you explain why?


A great many modules' -12V current consumption is different from their +12V consumption. Tip Tip uZeus power supply users (like me) and others who have tighter constraints on the negative supply are highly interested in this.

Furthermore, there are quite a few modules that do not require -12V at all. Make Noise Barrel Power users and others who want to run modules on simplified power supplies find this kind of information invaluable.


i second this. summing the + and - requirements is a very rough approximation of the load on a supply. plus i suppose a lot of entries in the modulargrid do just include the + requirements in the general field.

i`d either drop the feature or make it 3 fields: +12V, -12V and 5V

anything else is just misleading.
dougcl
jnlkrt wrote:
John Noble wrote:
dougcl wrote:
John Noble wrote:

You need -12V too


Can you explain why?


A great many modules' -12V current consumption is different from their +12V consumption. Tip Tip uZeus power supply users (like me) and others who have tighter constraints on the negative supply are highly interested in this.

Furthermore, there are quite a few modules that do not require -12V at all. Make Noise Barrel Power users and others who want to run modules on simplified power supplies find this kind of information invaluable.


i second this. summing the + and - requirements is a very rough approximation of the load on a supply. plus i suppose a lot of entries in the modulargrid do just include the + requirements in the general field.

i`d either drop the feature or make it 3 fields: +12V, -12V and 5V

anything else is just misleading.


Just consider the V and mA values true for the positive rail. The others can be added if necessary. In any case, this is all rather beside the point. The most important attributes to get right are the manuf, model, format, modifier, HP and image. Eurorackdb still does not populate all of these, so there is plenty to do without needing an extension to the schema. The reason I mention these is that some present a problem that is needing some collaborative effort among the db developers. That's maybe not as sexy as talking about power supplies and extending the schema, but it is more important for data sharing and interoperability. Please keep in mind that the data you are sitting on is not yours. It belongs to the community and should be available to other developers to work with. The easier you make it to share data reliably, the more benefit to the community. There is a chance that your system will be superseded as someone else takes the initiative. Please facilitate that process. Attributes can be added freely and shared once this view is adopted by all the developers involved.
jnlkrt
dougcl wrote:
jnlkrt wrote:
John Noble wrote:
dougcl wrote:
John Noble wrote:

You need -12V too


Can you explain why?


A great many modules' -12V current consumption is different from their +12V consumption. Tip Tip uZeus power supply users (like me) and others who have tighter constraints on the negative supply are highly interested in this.

Furthermore, there are quite a few modules that do not require -12V at all. Make Noise Barrel Power users and others who want to run modules on simplified power supplies find this kind of information invaluable.


i second this. summing the + and - requirements is a very rough approximation of the load on a supply. plus i suppose a lot of entries in the modulargrid do just include the + requirements in the general field.

i`d either drop the feature or make it 3 fields: +12V, -12V and 5V

anything else is just misleading.


Just consider the V and mA values true for the positive rail. The others can be added if necessary. In any case, this is all rather beside the point. The most important attributes to get right are the manuf, model, format, modifier, HP and image. Eurorackdb still does not populate all of these, so there is plenty to do without needing an extension to the schema. The reason I mention these is that some present a problem that is needing some collaborative effort among the db developers. That's maybe not as sexy as talking about power supplies and extending the schema, but it is more important for data sharing and interoperability. Please keep in mind that the data you are sitting on is not yours. It belongs to the community and should be available to other developers to work with. The easier you make it to share data reliably, the more benefit to the community. There is a chance that your system will be superseded as someone else takes the initiative. Please facilitate that process. Attributes can be added freely and shared once this view is adopted by all the developers involved.


how is this beside the point? it`s a thread about the new rackplanner and a request for splitting the power requirements into +12V and -12V makes total sense. you have all valid points but it`s save to say that indeed the power requirements are an essential part of planning a rack, just like the hp. i don`t care if it`s part of a general database standard, but it would be cool to add it to the modulargrid.

i just think the power data only makes sense when being correct and exact for + and -.

what`s about the "Please keep in mind that the data you are sitting on is not yours."? don`t get how this is a reply to my post.. hmmm.....
RubberCityNoise
This planner is the best! Keep up the good work!
simfonik
Price would be a useful field if it was private and per user. That would allow someone to keep track of what they've spent or what they're planning to spend. It wouldn't require currency that way either.
jnlkrt
simfonik wrote:
Price would be a useful field if it was private and per user. That would allow someone to keep track of what they've spent or what they're planning to spend. It wouldn't require currency that way either.


cool idea!
John Noble
dougcl wrote:
Eurorackdb still does not populate all of these, so there is plenty to do without needing an extension to the schema.


There hasn't been any reason until now. I will add it today if there are consumers for the data and it doesn't break anything for current RP users.
reppiks
One small request: could the red delete icon be made to disappear when the mouse is not over the module? It currently stays on the last 'moused-over' module.
synthcube
This whole thing begs for:
- consensus and collaboration
- a full cross-format, comman set of tools
- sincere discussion and documentation of master data issues (naming conventions, units of measure etc )against which everyone agrees to adopt
- a full consensus view of a formalized requirements definition
- identification of best practices from all of the existing solutions and agreement by those investing their time to contgribute to a greater good
elektrokick
Can you please add Thonk to the manufacturer list, Solitud?
solitud
elektrokick wrote:
Can you please add Thonk to the manufacturer list, Solitud?

Done
Protofrangiste
Please add hexinverter.net and Rare Waves to the manufacturer list.
solitud
Protofrangiste wrote:
Please add hexinverter.net and Rare Waves to the manufacturer list.

Done
User101
Am I doing something wrong? When I try and rearrange modules they grey out in their new positions, and then when I come back to the page or reload they are all back in their original positions. I am using IE 9.0.10
Monobass
This is cool... but I can't actually have a case of the correct size.

The max rows is 5 and the Max HP is 192.

My case is 6 rows of 128 HP... If I could do 3 rows of 256 that would suffice.
conscious
Hello,

can you please integrate skins for the case, i would like something slicker than the wooden case.
Also make it possible to blend out the modules on the bottom, my PC isnt the fastest and the modules down below slow everything down.
Please upload a picture for the doepfer A-155 and A-154.



thnx
daverj
Many people use rack planners to plan future purchases, and in Euro systems the power requirements are just as important as the size requirements. Many modules use vastly different amounts of one power rail compared to another, and knowing that is important information about a module. Likewise some of the power supplies supply different amounts of plus or minus, so being able to add up the requirements shows if a certain set of modules can work with a given power supply.

For example, my O'Tool module uses 130ma of +12 but only 10ma of -12. If only the 130ma figure was stored in the info about the module, people would assume it required 130ma of -12 also, and would then assume that they could not use it in a system powered with a uZeus that was already reaching it's limits of -12v.

There are many other modules with vastly different requirements for +12 vs -12. And some modules that do require +5. Knowing that a module requires +5, and how much of it is required makes a difference when planning a system, and the power supplies or adapters needed for that system.
dougcl
daverj wrote:
Many people use rack planners to plan future purchases, and in Euro systems the power requirements are just as important as the size requirements. Many modules use vastly different amounts of one power rail compared to another, and knowing that is important information about a module. Likewise some of the power supplies supply different amounts of plus or minus, so being able to add up the requirements shows if a certain set of modules can work with a given power supply.

For example, my O'Tool module uses 130ma of +12 but only 10ma of -12. If only the 130ma figure was stored in the info about the module, people would assume it required 130ma of -12 also, and would then assume that they could not use it in a system powered with a uZeus that was already reaching it's limits of -12v.

There are many other modules with vastly different requirements for +12 vs -12. And some modules that do require +5. Knowing that a module requires +5, and how much of it is required makes a difference when planning a system, and the power supplies or adapters needed for that system.


I don't think an attempt should be made to duplicate the data that John is already populating. The best idea, I think is to use the data that John has.
stromcat
I keep thinking it would be nice to be able to comment on peoples modular systems. I suppose one problem of that is comments being left and then the system being modified so you're commenting on different setups...

Another thing is that modules are listed multiple times on the right (for the same system) if they've been inserted into that modular multiple times.
muncky
nice facility - and love that it works on a phone... w00t

any chance you could add Frequency Central to the list? would like to up upload negativespace's groovy panel for the DIY that's a coming.

also just uploaded Clarke68's panel for the Thomas White Dual Resonant Low Pass Gate - if anyone else, like Clarke or Thomas White would rather own it, shout and I'll delete...!
jimmyambulance
this is so awesome. thank you.
Otium
User101 wrote:
Am I doing something wrong? When I try and rearrange modules they grey out in their new positions, and then when I come back to the page or reload they are all back in their original positions.


Probably this:

User101 wrote:
I am using IE 9.0.10


razz
solitud
User101 wrote:
Am I doing something wrong? When I try and rearrange modules they grey out in their new positions, and then when I come back to the page or reload they are all back in their original positions. I am using IE 9.0.10

IE 9 should work. I have also seen the buggy behaviour you describe one time on IE9, but I am not able to reproduce it, so I can not fix it. Maybe cleaning the Browsercache can help ...
User101
solitud wrote:
IE 9 should work. I have also seen the buggy behaviour you describe one time on IE9, but I am not able to reproduce it, so I can not fix it. Maybe cleaning the Browsercache can help ...


Thanks - tried clearing cache and behaviour persists. Tried in compatability view as well but no luck. I don't really want to install another browser so has anyone got any other ideas please?
n0rd
Just tried IE9 - does not work. Glitches up badly after trying to move modules around.
jnlkrt
User101 wrote:
solitud wrote:
IE 9 should work. I have also seen the buggy behaviour you describe one time on IE9, but I am not able to reproduce it, so I can not fix it. Maybe cleaning the Browsercache can help ...


Thanks - tried clearing cache and behaviour persists. Tried in compatability view as well but no luck. I don't really want to install another browser so has anyone got any other ideas please?


sorry if this is an odd reply, but the truth really is you should install firefox. problem solved.
User101
Sorry I don't trust firefox - have had security issues in the past when I used it and have never had a problem with an up-to-date version of IE. Not to mention other issues in the past with online shopping carts not being happy with browsers that aren't IE.

So, in short I am not changing my browser! Not a problem though, will wait and see if this (really quite good looking planner) gets an update that means it starts working with IE - (or more likely Microsoft fixes whatever they broke)
jnlkrt
User101 wrote:
Sorry I don't trust firefox - have had security issues in the past when I used it and have never had a problem with an up-to-date version of IE. Not to mention other issues in the past with online shopping carts not being happy with browsers that aren't IE.

So, in short I am not changing my browser! Not a problem though, will wait and see if this (really quite good looking planner) gets an update that means it starts working with IE - (or more likely Microsoft fixes whatever they broke)


well, you don`t need to switch, just use firefox for certain HTML5 pages like the modulargrid.. that won`t affect your security.
solitud
New Update

Added USD Prices
Display of prices can be switched in the menubar.
The upload form is extended with a new field price USD.
If no USD price is available, modulargrid will approx. calc the value.
And the other way around.

-12 V Support
On people request module current can be entered as +12, -12 and 5V

Delete Button
The delete button in the rack view now vanishes, when the mouse leaves the rack.

Racks size
Extended to 6 rows

Long Description
Added a field for long descriptions. The text entered here will show up in the module detail view.

linked function tags
Now you can click on the tags in the searchresults. This triggers a new search after module function.

I hope I don't have broken anything, things get complicated fast!
reppiks
great work! amazing how you are responding so promptly to all the feedback here thumbs up
Monobass
solitud wrote:
New Update

Racks size
Extended to 6 rows


It's motherfucking bacon yo
reppiks
Re: prices...
It appears that USD prices that have been entered are being treated as if in Euros, and thus the USD recalculation bloats the prices...
jnlkrt
solitud wrote:
New Update

Added USD Prices
Display of prices can be switched in the menubar.
The upload form is extended with a new field price USD.
If no USD price is available, modulargrid will approx. calc the value.
And the other way around.

-12 V Support
On people request module current can be entered as +12, -12 and 5V

Delete Button
The delete button in the rack view now vanishes, when the mouse leaves the rack.

Racks size
Extended to 6 rows

Long Description
Added a field for long descriptions. The text entered here will show up in the module detail view.

linked function tags
Now you can click on the tags in the searchresults. This triggers a new search after module function.

I hope I don't have broken anything, things get complicated fast!


good stuff, thanks a lot!
solitud
reppiks wrote:
Re: prices...
It appears that USD prices that have been entered are being treated as if in Euros, and thus the USD recalculation bloats the prices...

Yeah, at the beginning (last Friday wink ) it was unclear for wigglers which currency they should enter. Now everything is a little messy. It think the database will be consolidated after time.
I think about a mechanism to make changes to the datasets easier.

In between, new improvements:

Module Specs where shown in Popover

and

IE 9 Drag Drop Issues fixed (I hope)
The IE9 bug should be fixed, perhaps someone can confirm this, because I do not have a "real" IE9.
I don´t want to tell the people which browser they should use so I try to support the major modern browsers that is Firefox 15, Safari 6, Chrome 22, IE9.
For the best "experience" I recommend Chrome, simply because I test on this the most.
rattkane
I just took Modular Grid for a spin and am lovin' it!

The first thing I did was make my current system. Up to this point I had been so good about not totaling the amount of money I've spent - AND damn!

However the price total is a great feature to have. Nice work!
elektrokick
Hopefully usd/euro prices will be corrected soon by the module-"godfathers" thumbs up
User101
solitud wrote:

IE 9 Drag Drop Issues fixed (I hope)
The IE9 bug should be fixed, perhaps someone can confirm this, because I do not have a "real" IE9.
I don´t want to tell the people which browser they should use so I try to support the major modern browsers that is Firefox 15, Safari 6, Chrome 22, IE9.
For the best "experience" I recommend Chrome, simply because I test on this the most.


Nice one! Fixed for me certainly.

Just for the record I didn't feel that I was being told to change my browser. I understand there are many people who don't like IE9 and all things microsoft, but for me they do the job they need to do and I have a feeling of security when I use it that I haven't had when I used other software.
chinard
Look nice, only thing i would add would be 'frequency shifter' as a category.
sixtyten
One area I think could be improved is the method of selecting modules. The 'lazy loading' of images is nice as well as the enhanced form fields but I think a text based manufacturer/module list would provide a better user experience.

Regardless of image or text based lists, currently you are forced to change search parameters to often or show a huge list.

You could build a grid with blocks for each manufacturer and blocks for each module. Clicking the manufacturer blocks would toggle the visibility of their respective modules.

You could have master controls to show all/none for the manufacturer blocks to give the user the option of reducing from an all inclusive list or starting from 'scratch.' You could do this for all of the module attributes. I'm just thinking of a visual filter.

You could even keep the form fields but maybe use this JS plugin that allows really useful, user-friendly ways to do things like multiple selects and option groups.

Chosen
jnlkrt
chinard wrote:
Look nice, only thing i would add would be 'frequency shifter' as a category.


there is pitch shifter..
solitud
sixtyten wrote:
One area I think could be improved is the method of selecting modules. The 'lazy loading' of images is nice as well as the enhanced form fields but I think a text based manufacturer/module list would provide a better user experience.

Regardless of image or text based lists, currently you are forced to change search parameters to often or show a huge list.

You could build a grid with blocks for each manufacturer and blocks for each module. Clicking the manufacturer blocks would toggle the visibility of their respective modules.

You could have master controls to show all/none for the manufacturer blocks to give the user the option of reducing from an all inclusive list or starting from 'scratch.' You could do this for all of the module attributes. I'm just thinking of a visual filter.

You could even keep the form fields but maybe use this JS plugin that allows really useful, user-friendly ways to do things like multiple selects and option groups.

Chosen


It's not easy to get it right for everybody but I am trying to improve the userinterface continuously.
This chosen plugin looks cool, but we already had a lifesearch on the manufacturers field. Wigglers didn´t liked it too much, so I changed it back in an old school dropdown, which I also prefer more, BECAUSE:

if you focus to the manufacturer dropdown , you can quickly type in one, two three letters and the manufacturer is selected and search executed!
Javascript can´t do faster.

The project is very young and I still have many bugs to fix, but I keep the idea of a simplified search list on the record.

On the homepage there is also a link to the "old school catalog". This was mainly ment to be as an alternative for the google crawler or people with very old browsers/mobile devices. But perhaps it could be the starting point for a slicker more traditional interface.

Thanks for the input, Knut
nono.dracula
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet.

BUT

I'd really love the option to be able to make
your personal rack "PRIVATE" if you wanted.

Is this something that may be available?
steffensen
nono.dracula wrote:
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet.

BUT

I'd really love the option to be able to make
your personal rack "PRIVATE" if you wanted.

Is this something that may be available?


That, and to make your own DIY Modules for private use would be a killer option. smile
iamgoldman
now i have something to do with my free time.

i will leave no detail behind
solitud
Small Update

Module Search slightly improved
"-" and space characters don't matter for the search result. Searching for "a-108" is the same like searching for "a 108". Searching for "a108" is still something different, arghh. Working on this...

Stats on the Homepage
A counter for modules and racks

Parsing URLs in Long Description
You can enter URLs in the Long Description field of the module. It will be automatically linked. No HTML required, so just enter "www.doepfer.com" to link to that.

Module Delete Button in the Rack view is back
The Delete button on the last hovered modules stays until you press popover off. I had to change behaviour because iPad UI was broken.
hanerlend
seriously, i just don't get it pdon't know if this has been mentioned alleeady, but support for the erthenvar lunchbox 1u tiles would be nice. smile

edit: the planner is lovely, btw. smile really liking the fact you went with html5 on it.
skecr8r
This is totally excellent - just wanted to give two thumbs up we're not worthy thumbs up thumbs up
Jaspo
A couple nit pick things. I didn't read through the posts to see if these were already posted.

1. When I grab a module, it would be great if it didn't snap to the center of the module, but to the offset of where I grabbed it.

2. When I drag a module on top of a larger, equal width module or an area with enough room to the left or right that module should replace the one currently there. If the replaced module is equal, less or enough room to the left or right, they would swap. Otherwise, it would go to the next available largest space, or to the off screen place holder. This would allow for faster construction. Right now it is like one of those sliding puzzles smile

BTW, I am really enjoying your planner. Excellent work!
jnlkrt
i wanted to send you a little money to support this, and signed up with flattr.. when trying to send money, besides the minimum of 15€ you gotta pay to them two things happened that made me hold back:

1. when using paypal, for the amount of 15.00€ it shows a small print with an actual amount of 22.50€ in the last step.

2. when using any other payment method, it`s carried out over moneybookers, a highly dubious payment service that mainly serves gambling sites as a processor.

i have my concerns with this service! isn`t there anything fair and transparent for a cause like this?
swordsect
steffensen wrote:
nono.dracula wrote:
Not sure if this has been mentioned yet.

BUT

I'd really love the option to be able to make
your personal rack "PRIVATE" if you wanted.

Is this something that may be available?


That, and to make your own DIY Modules for private use would be a killer option. smile


I would also be in favor of making this an Option!
jnlkrt
hey, another feature request: it would be cool to filter for exact module width, not only a limited number of max widths. thumbs up
steffensen
jnlkrt wrote:
hey, another feature request: it would be cool to filter for exact module width, not only a limited number of max widths. thumbs up


I was just gonna say the same. I usually browse for specific HP's sometimes. smile
iL
applause

getting better and better.

maybe suggestions:

function would be good when i submit a module and have not all
infos i can set it that others can edit also the information.

that could speed up maybe gathering all infos, loke a wiki.

maybe it also starts edit wars if peolple fight if something is a function generator or a cv modulation.

angry Guinness ftw! hyper

like math seems to be the everything maschine (missing moonrocket) - like if math is a oscillator then any sequencer is a oscilator too. wonder why wooglebug is not a oscilator too also.
solitud
Update

Search Module field has now a fuzzy logic
Find the A-107, regardless if you search for A107, A 107, a-107.

Private Modules (semi kind of)
In the module edit and add form you can now check a module as a private one.
This means it will not be listed in the module browser of other people and people can not search for it.
It will be listed in YOUR module browser and marked with a private tag.
When people view your profile or your rack than they are still be able to see it.
People can advance from your profile page to the detail page of the module and from there are able to add the private module to their own racks.

The reason for this: people can add their DIY modules without cluttering the database. They can still show the module to other people and those can play with the module in their own racks.

I also will use this mechanism to blend out duplicates from the database.

Try it and tell me what you think.
solitud
stromcat wrote:

Another thing is that modules are listed multiple times on the right (for the same system) if they've been inserted into that modular multiple times.

Good find. Fixed it.
sixtyten
solitud wrote:


It's not easy to get it right for everybody but I am trying to improve the userinterface continuously.
This chosen plugin looks cool, but we already had a lifesearch on the manufacturers field. Wigglers didn´t liked it too much, so I changed it back in an old school dropdown, which I also prefer more, BECAUSE:

if you focus to the manufacturer dropdown , you can quickly type in one, two three letters and the manufacturer is selected and search executed!
Javascript can´t do faster.

The project is very young and I still have many bugs to fix, but I keep the idea of a simplified search list on the record.

On the homepage there is also a link to the "old school catalog". This was mainly ment to be as an alternative for the google crawler or people with very old browsers/mobile devices. But perhaps it could be the starting point for a slicker more traditional interface.

Thanks for the input, Knut


I should have mixed in praise with my critique. What you have now is great. It's FAR better than the other web based apps.

My biggest gripe (it's still not that big of a deal) would be solved with multiple select in the manufacturer drop-down.

Anyway, great work and I look forward to seeing it progress.
defenestration
just absolutely love it, many excellent features, does everything I want it to do and then some, very user focused implementation

and thanks for so many new features!

thumbs up
sausmatoe
This thing is awesome! nice one Guinness ftw!
MacroDX
Very nice work, signed up right away applause
One feature suggest though (Dunno if it already came up, didn´t read through the entire thread): Adding pictures by URL.
E.g. Doepfer has pics of all their modules on their site...
steffensen
solitud wrote:

Private Modules (semi kind of)
In the module edit and add form you can now check a module as a private one.
This means it will not be listed in the module browser of other people and people can not search for it.
It will be listed in YOUR module browser and marked with a private tag.
When people view your profile or your rack than they are still be able to see it.
People can advance from your profile page to the detail page of the module and from there are able to add the private module to their own racks.

The reason for this: people can add their DIY modules without cluttering the database. They can still show the module to other people and those can play with the module in their own racks.

I also will use this mechanism to blend out duplicates from the database.

Try it and tell me what you think.


Thank you for this!
Otium
jnlkrt wrote:
i wanted to send you a little money to support this, and signed up with flattr.. when trying to send money, besides the minimum of 15€ you gotta pay to them two things happened that made me hold back:

1. when using paypal, for the amount of 15.00€ it shows a small print with an actual amount of 22.50€ in the last step.

2. when using any other payment method, it`s carried out over moneybookers, a highly dubious payment service that mainly serves gambling sites as a processor.

i have my concerns with this service! isn`t there anything fair and transparent for a cause like this?


Well at least WE could invite him for a beer here in Berlin, as it seems 8_) Guinness ftw!
radiokoala
jnlkrt wrote:
i wanted to send you a little money to support this, and signed up with flattr.. when trying to send money, besides the minimum of 15€ you gotta pay to them two things happened that made me hold back:

1. when using paypal, for the amount of 15.00€ it shows a small print with an actual amount of 22.50€ in the last step.

2. when using any other payment method, it`s carried out over moneybookers, a highly dubious payment service that mainly serves gambling sites as a processor.

i have my concerns with this service! isn`t there anything fair and transparent for a cause like this?

Regarding 2, I believe oDesk works with both moneybookers and payoneer for money withdrawal and they're perhaps the world's largest freelance website... A proof of their trustworthiness or not, but if moneybookers was that dubious I doubt they'd use their services for transfering thousands if not millions dollars. seriously, i just don't get it
ollepetersson
My rack is 208hp wide and maximum is 192hp sad banana

Would it be hard to fix?
/Olle
zombieFredrik
Haven't read all requests but most useful for me would be: Ability to move modules between racks. Since I'm always reordering my modules ... searching for the perfect setup (and making room for more)
Petur
Maybe this is a bit picky. But i kinda would like a rack layout without the wooden spacers between the rows. Mainly because that's the way my racks look =)

What about having a couple of different rack themes to select from maybe?

BTW, i really appreciate all the excellent work being put into this!
jnlkrt
Otium wrote:
Well at least WE could invite him for a beer here in Berlin, as it seems 8_) Guinness ftw!


right, but i hope it`s not guinness then.. wink

radiokoala wrote:
Regarding 2, I believe oDesk works with both moneybookers and payoneer for money withdrawal and they're perhaps the world's largest freelance website... A proof of their trustworthiness or not, but if moneybookers was that dubious I doubt they'd use their services for transfering thousands if not millions dollars. seriously, i just don't get it


well probably not any more dubious than paypal and the other bunch of fake banks, yeah.. it`s money transfer, so what do i expect.. wink
still wondering what`s with that additional 7,50€ which they wanted to draw in.
djthopa
Are Erthenvar modules listed?

Thanks!
solitud
Jaspo wrote:

2. When I drag a module on top of a larger, equal width module or an area with enough room to the left or right that module should replace the one currently there. If the replaced module is equal, less or enough room to the left or right, they would swap. Otherwise, it would go to the next available largest space, or to the off screen place holder. This would allow for faster construction. Right now it is like one of those sliding puzzles smile


Tough one! But I know it is important. I try to fix the problem in multiple steps, so

Update
Modules of the same width can be swapped
When you drag one module over an other module with the same width the background turns green to signalize that you can swap the position of the modules.
nomass
If someone else has uploaded a module but omitted some info, is it possible for someone else to add it?
jnlkrt
solitud wrote:
Jaspo wrote:

2. When I drag a module on top of a larger, equal width module or an area with enough room to the left or right that module should replace the one currently there. If the replaced module is equal, less or enough room to the left or right, they would swap. Otherwise, it would go to the next available largest space, or to the off screen place holder. This would allow for faster construction. Right now it is like one of those sliding puzzles smile


Tough one! But I know it is important. I try to fix the problem in multiple steps, so

Update
Modules of the same width can be swapped
When you drag one module over an other module with the same width the background turns green to signalize that you can swap the position of the modules.


i think is a pretty big step! cool! smile
nomass
Oops, I should have mentioned this in my last post.

When I view this on my iPad, the popovers for the modules on the far left appear off the side of the screen and are therefore illegible.

Any fix for that?
solitud
Update
Filter for exact module width or max module width
In the module browsers search form are now two radio buttons to toggle between exact HP or max HP search
steffensen
Great!
jnlkrt
solitud wrote:
Update
Filter for exact module width or max module width
In the module browsers search form are now two radio buttons to toggle between exact HP or max HP search


yay! ty!
m-m
This is great, thanks for doing this solitud!

I really liked modularplanner but you really noticed when it stopped getting updated. So now I'm moving my daydreaming and delusions of grandeur to your site w00t
nono.dracula
I to am loving ModularGrid, thanks so much for the work!

Also just wanted to vote again for an option that would allow you
to make your modular "private"!

thanks thanks applause applause applause
solitud
m-m wrote:
This is great, thanks for doing this solitud!

I really liked modularplanner but you really noticed when it stopped getting updated.

Thanks. Actually this was coincidence smile

nono.dracula wrote:

Also just wanted to vote again for an option that would allow you
to make your modular "private"!

You have to explain me the usecase. I want to keep the functionality as easy as possible. Every button and function decreases the performance and UI and brings in potential new bugs. For what is the private rack function good and how shall it work?
nono.dracula
solitud wrote:
nono.dracula wrote:

Also just wanted to vote again for an option that would allow you
to make your modular "private"!

You have to explain me the usecase. I want to keep the functionality as easy as possible. Every button and function decreases the performance and UI and brings in potential new bugs. For what is the private rack function good and how shall it work?


This function would provide a way to make your personal modular system private so others could not view it. It could be associated with your username. So for example a user could simply click a button that would allow for either "private" or "public". This way any system that is designed using Modular Grid would have the option of privacy or making their system public. Personally I would like to keep the systems I design private so others could not view.
reppiks
nono.dracula wrote:
solitud wrote:
nono.dracula wrote:

Also just wanted to vote again for an option that would allow you
to make your modular "private"!

You have to explain me the usecase. I want to keep the functionality as easy as possible. Every button and function decreases the performance and UI and brings in potential new bugs. For what is the private rack function good and how shall it work?


This function would provide a way to make your personal modular system private so others could not view it. It could be associated with your username. So for example a user could simply click a button that would allow for either "private" or "public". This way any system that is designed using Modular Grid would have the option of privacy or making their system public. Personally I would like to keep the systems I design private so others could not view.


I agree. The reasons people may have for wanting to keep their rack ideas private are not relevant, but allowing this option will increase the appeal and usefulness of this awesome site, in my opinion.
elektrokick
I also think that's a great idea, a "Public View Mode" ON/OFF option for your racks (not unlike the new private mode for modules).

One of the reasons why I like this idea is that it could open up for another feature I think a lot of people would enjoy: the possibility to leave comments on racks with public view mode enabled (i.e a comment field accessible by clicking on a tab above the rack). If you don't want other people to see and comment on a rack of yours you could simply just turn off public view mode for that rack.

I'm just throwing this idea out there, though I understand it might not be possible considering the amount of unpaid work it would require on your end. You have already done a tremendous job with this website and I'm really enjoying it as it is!
thebrotherspus
Yep. Excellent site.
I'm amazed at how quickly it's all coming together.
So useful!! applause
solitud
O.k. I have put the private rack feature request on the list. I understand it, but I am not fully convinced. We are not talking private photos here, everyone has a collection of favorite modules in their racks, thats all. I am not sure if this is a property you have to protect.
But if wigglers demand for it I will consider.

In the meantime, miniupdate:
Link to module detail view from modules in rack view
It was not possible to link to the module detail view from the modules in your rack.
Nobody requested this, but I think it makes sense. So there is an info button above the delete button which fullfills exactly the purpose of linking to the detail view.

Manufacturers in the search result are clickable
Click on a manufacturer to start a new search for all modules from this manufacturer.
elektrokick
The link to detail view is neat thumbs up thumbs up
swordsect
solitud wrote:
O.k. I have put the private rack feature request on the list. I understand it, but I am not fully convinced. We are not talking private photos here, everyone has a collection of favorite modules in their racks, thats all. I am not sure if this is a property you have to protect.
But if wigglers demand for it I will consider.


Hey, first of all thanks for ModularGrid and all of the hardwork you are putting into it. Thanks thanks! applause

Regarding the option to privatize. I to am in favor of this. You are correct that it isn't private photos, but some people aren't as quick to share their system with others. Some people work very hard on constructing something unique to themselves and may wish to keep this private. I for one would love the option, and think it is very very important. I VOTE YES!

thanks again!!
solitud
You guys are killing me. Ladies and Gentlemen, update:
Private Racks
On the edit and add Rack forms now is a checkbox "is private". Click on this box to protect your rack from prying eyes. Only you in logged in state can access the rack.

Popover State preserved
Its getting a bit noisy in the rack view. The Button "Popover off" hides the information bubbles which appear on hover.
The status of this button (on/off) is now preserved on any rack views, even after logout.

Rack navigation in Rack view
Prev and Next buttons in the rack view allow for quicker browsing through the racks of others. Use this for inspiration (and yes of course, your top secret racks will never appear wink )
swordsect
Thanks!!! you are doing great work!!! SlayerBadger! SlayerBadger! SlayerBadger!
solitud
update
step2 improvement of the drag and drop engine
Drop smaller modules on bigger modules
You can drop smaller modules to bigger ones. The modules will be swapped. If no sufficient space is available, the modulargrid engine will try to find an empty slot. The behaviour is sometimes a little unpredictable, but I think an improvement to the former static behaviour.
Jaspo
Can you have it link to my facebook account and automatically post "Jaspo just added an E350 Morphing Terrarium to his Eurorack modular synthesizer!!" ?









just kidding Mr. Green
haima
solitud wrote:
Use this for inspiration (and yes of course, your top secret racks will never appear wink )


I think the fact that currently everyone's racks are visible is one of the coolest things about this project - I really hope people don't privatise all of their racks.

Just browsing around is very inspirational - almost like going to a virtual modular meet. hihi

Taking this idea further, it might be cool if there was a comments/question thread below each rack where people could ask questions about the set up?

And further to this, you could even create the ability to upload photos of the "real" system below the virtual rack - like the photos people post in the "Post pics of your euro setup!" thread.

People could even attach video or soundcloud links of them using the system.... etc.

Or not.... hahha.

solitud - either way GREAT JOB! w00t
reppiks
I like the idea of making comments, the problem with that is that I guess a lot of these racks will change frequently as a lot of us are most likely using it to try out different possibilities of what we might buy, rather than a stable existing setup, so comments can quickly become out of date. Maybe that doesn't matter though.

Another thing that would be cool would be to be able to search all (public) racks by module, e.g. I want to see all the modulars that have a Pittsburgh Generator to see what other modules people have it playing with...
EDIT: Oh, I just noticed that this is in place on the right-hand side when you view the module detail!! thumbs up thumbs up
steffensen
solitud wrote:
You guys are killing me. Ladies and Gentlemen, update:
Private Racks
On the edit and add Rack forms now is a checkbox "is private". Click on this box to protect your rack from prying eyes. Only you in logged in state can access the rack.

Popover State preserved
Its getting a bit noisy in the rack view. The Button "Popover off" hides the information bubbles which appear on hover.
The status of this button (on/off) is now preserved on any rack views, even after logout.

Rack navigation in Rack view
Prev and Next buttons in the rack view allow for quicker browsing through the racks of others. Use this for inspiration (and yes of course, your top secret racks will never appear wink )


Thank you for all your hard work!
Mefistophelees
One small request:

When you mouse over a module the blue and red info and rubbish icons appear.

However when you move the mouse away they remain.

Any chance you could get them to disappear as soon as the mouse isn't on that module.

Thanks.
solitud
Mefistophelees wrote:
One small request:

When you mouse over a module the blue and red info and rubbish icons appear.

However when you move the mouse away they remain.

Any chance you could get them to disappear as soon as the mouse isn't on that module.

Thanks.

We had this feature request already. The problem: When you use modulargrid on a tablet (e.g. iPad) there is no mouse hover event. If I hide the icons on "mouseleave" people with touchdevices are not able to click on the icons, because they vanish instantly if they lift their fingers.

Workaround: when you click the button "Popover off" the icons disappear.
RubberCityNoise
I am having serious issues with placing modules directly next to each other. Sometimes it will work fine, but as of late more and more it is coming up red or green if it is next to but not touching. If I exit out of the browser and reopen modular grid, it allows me to place that module in the same place, but then it starts happening again. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it. I am using google chrome on a brand new macbook pro.
solitud
RubberCityNoise wrote:
I am having serious issues with placing modules directly next to each other. Sometimes it will work fine, but as of late more and more it is coming up red or green if it is next to but not touching. If I exit out of the browser and reopen modular grid, it allows me to place that module in the same place, but then it starts happening again. There seems to be no rhyme or reason to it. I am using google chrome on a brand new macbook pro.

Hm. Do you use the zoom function of Chrome?
RubberCityNoise
I am using the zoom function. I restarted everything and it seems to be better. Hmmm.
solitud
RubberCityNoise wrote:
I am using the zoom function. I restarted everything and it seems to be better. Hmmm.

I think I have fixed it now. The problem had to to with different zoom levels and occurring rounding errors of the module placement coordinates.
Although at extreme zoom levels the problem still exists.
There goes the lazy sunday smile
stromcat
Just to reiterate on the comments thing, in many ways the most useful thing I think would be to allow the modular creator themselves a little paragraph of space to leave a comment under the system.

I'm thinking the beauty of this (if folks took the time to fill it in) is to allow for suggested systems to be put together and for the architect to leave comments as to what kinds of things the system would be good for, suggested applications, suggested patches, how it would sound etc.

It would be good for this to be separate to any user comments if that happens later. Just a thought that would allow for the site to take on a role a bit like Matttech's "one row suggestions" thread.
exper
solitud wrote:
RubberCityNoise wrote:
I am using the zoom function. I restarted everything and it seems to be better. Hmmm.

I think I have fixed it now. The problem had to to with different zoom levels and occurring rounding errors of the module placement coordinates.
Although at extreme zoom levels the problem still exists.
There goes the lazy sunday smile


Works well here, thanks. I like being able to see my whole rack at once.
exper
Anyone not able to log in with their username and password? I get an invalid user message... Hope my racks aren't lost!

EDIT:

When I searched for modules I created, it says submitted by _____, instead of my user name.
solitud
update
Modulargrid goes Buchla, goes Dotcom!
I have added Buchla and Dotcom to the Modulargrid universe. You select the universe you want to dive into on the homepage, so there is no mixup with the formats. You can have racks with different formats and switch between them like you did with the eurorack racks.

Bigger Detailimages
exactly that

Related Muffwiggler Threads
You can see related muffwiggler threads to a module on the module detailpage.

New Support option
This Flattr thing is the mostly underused function on the website. I added a new support option. It´s called: buy my album

This was a rather complex update with many changes in the database, so hopefully I didn't break anything. Tell me if I did and how you like it,

Knut
nomass
How about a link directly to an Analogue Haven shopping cart so if 3 people put a module in their rack, my account is credited and the module ships??
solitud
nomass wrote:
How about a link directly to an Analogue Haven shopping cart so if 3 people put a module in their rack, my account is credited and the module ships??

If this is a fun comment can you please attach the "banana riding the space lama" pictogram to it? My cultural heritage only allows me to understand humor if it´s marked like that. If you are serious, can you explain the function in detail?
nomass
Bananallama! Bananallama! Bananallama!
solitud
nomass wrote:
Bananallama! Bananallama! Bananallama!

Understood. Now it´s funny!
LoveBot
Petur wrote:
Maybe this is a bit picky. But i kinda would like a rack layout without the wooden spacers between the rows. Mainly because that's the way my racks look =)

What about having a couple of different rack themes to select from maybe?

BTW, i really appreciate all the excellent work being put into this!


this.
Would be great to have a simple black frame e.g. Monorocket style. thumbs up

Thanks for the great work!
Bob Borries
Done fixin my Euro MonoRocket set-up just fine brah.

LoveBot
Nicely done. I was just agreeing with the suggestion for a customizable rack style...or a simple non-wood frame alternative...But definitely happy and grateful as is thumbs up
wotwot
+ 1 about that. even aluminium and plain black would do it for me. thanks a bunch for everything, i'm really enjoying it! thumbs up
Mercutio
Hi

Good job. Just tried it on ipad ! It's motherfucking bacon yo


The pic of the marble physics is odd !

I can t find the new line drumline module of acidlab !
PraxisCat
This is nice, but it made me realize how quickly I am going to run out of space, going to go past 12 U in the matter of months at 104HP each row. d'oh!

It may be getting close to do a purge. Why did I have to get into DIY?
Mefistophelees
solitud wrote:
Mefistophelees wrote:
One small request:

When you mouse over a module the blue and red info and rubbish icons appear.

However when you move the mouse away they remain.

Any chance you could get them to disappear as soon as the mouse isn't on that module.

Thanks.

We had this feature request already. The problem: When you use modulargrid on a tablet (e.g. iPad) there is no mouse hover event. If I hide the icons on "mouseleave" people with touchdevices are not able to click on the icons, because they vanish instantly if they lift their fingers.

Workaround: when you click the button "Popover off" the icons disappear.



How about tracking the mouse event for when it moves over the side of the case? That would cause the icons to vanish on the Mac/PC. On the iPad they'd vanish if you tap the side of the case.


BTW I like the new "buy album" feature - I made use of it
Play Him Off, Keyboard Cat.
qu.one
loving this so far. a "skinning" option for the fame would be nice though instead of the thick wood. other than that - pretty great and i haven't even tried iOS yet!

thx for making it!
reppiks
This is just awesome, keeps getting better, and I can use it on my iPhone!!

One request: please can the "popover" info display the module width (HP/TE)?
Thanks!!
solitud
Update
Wiki, wicked style. Everyone can edit anything
Wigglers uploaded modules like mad the last 3 weeks. We expanded modular formats and went 5U, Buchla Dotcom. On request I imported 5U and Dotcom modules from the Squiggletronics database. All this massive content gathering ended up in lots of content with somewhat flaky quality.
The concept that only the module owners can update the data was necessary at the beginning to get things started. But it does not work well with 1000+ modules online now.
Starting today I introduce the "Everyone can edit anything" function.
On the module detail page every registered user can edit the data. Changes are instantly visible for everyone. The changes of the data will be logged in a change log. The change log is also visible on the detail page (if any change has happen). Private modules can not be edited. Changes can be reverted, so nothing is lost in case some troll enters our modular island of happiness.
Try it. I know it´s not perfect, but I hope this way we can improve content quality FAST!
Rack Themes
I bet this is way more important for you lazy wigglers out there. So many people have requested it, so here it is: the first rack theme alternative.
On edit or add rack there is a dropdown menu where you can switch your existing rack to MONOROCKET style.
Thanks a ton to lessavyfav who did an awesomejob in designing the theme!
thebrotherspus
Wow. You must never sleep.
Great job!
reppiks
The Monorocket style is perfect!! It's peanut butter jelly time!
qu.one
solitud wrote:
...MONOROCKET style.
Thanks a ton to lessavyfav who did an awesomejob in designing the theme!


<<<HOLY CRAP - AWESOMENESS>>>
qu.one
the popover isn't dynamic to the . meaning that if you mouse over a module too close to the left most side of the case, the info pops out in a non-viewable area. see below.

i know if the display was wider it would be fine, but on my laptop it gets cut. not a HUGE issue, just pointing it out thumbs up

sausmatoe
Already spent hours on the site.
lessavyfav
solitud wrote:

Thanks a ton to lessavyfav who did an awesomejob in designing the theme!


I am so proud to have helped out! waah we're not worthy applause
reppiks
something else that I would find useful would be some more options for searching/browsing other people's racks...

e.g.1 - I want to look at all racks with just one row
e.g.2 - a "Random" button along with "Prev" and "Next"
matttech
my racks keep messing up when i switch or duplicate them (modules shift about or spread out, and need to be moved back again every time)

anyone else get this?
worker8
I've spent some hours with it already. Great tool for sure.

Things that could be better :

1/ Each time I open one of my racks, every modules (outside of the first row) seems slighlty shifted to the bottom. If I try to move one module under another one, there will be some collision issue (under iPad and OS 10.8 Safari). I need to move every modules one by one to avoid that.

2/ It seems better to move modules around with a 100% zoom setting. When moving modules with a lower zoom, sometime modules won't line up perfectly with other.

3/ There is no collision detection with IE8. Talking about collision, I wonder if this could be a switchable option (like popover).

4/ Without auto login, I often start on the create account form instead of the login form.

Everything else is just great. Youtube auto search, navigation through systems, switching between several systems. You've done a fantastic job.
reppiks
worker8 wrote:

4/ Without auto login, I often start on the creat account form instead of the login form.


I got round this by bookmarking the login page and autosaving my login details. Now all I need to do is click on the bookmark and hit 'enter' and I'm in.
solitud
@matttech and @ worker8:
The supported Browsers are the newest versions of Chrome, Safari, Firefox. Additional I try to support IE9. Are you having the issues with one of these Browsers?
matttech
Would need to check - they're certainly not super old. One mac is on leopard (10.6) but is on the latest one that's compatible with that. The other is on lion (10.7) so I'm guessing that would be a pretty recent one as itd be installed as part of the OS
glitched01
Very slick. I like it!
worker8
solitud wrote:
@matttech and @ worker8:
The supported Browsers are the newest versions of Chrome, Safari, Firefox. Additional I try to support IE9. Are you having the issues with one of these Browsers?

My iPad is an early one (iPad 1), running iOs 5.1.1.
Safari is running on a Mac Pro 2010 with OS 10.8. No update to install, it's up to date.
I got Chrome, but need to check if it's the latest version. I'll let you know.
matttech
solitud wrote:
@matttech and @ worker8:
The supported Browsers are the newest versions of Chrome, Safari, Firefox. Additional I try to support IE9. Are you having the issues with one of these Browsers?


the one at work, which messes up when you switch/duplicate racks is the following config:

safari - 5.1.7
OSX - 10.7.4

you'll make a rack, switch to another one, switch back again, and some of the modules will have moved behind others, or they will have spread out so that they are overlapping the edges of the case


not meaning to winge - it's an excellent tool, and will make my rack planning LOADS better - but i'm guessing you want people to troubleshoot it/ point out bugs.
worker8
Chrome, on my MacPro, is up to date too.
Here is a screen shot to illustrate what I'm talking about :

Four A-110 are not exactly at the same level. The pair on the left is slightly higher than the pair on the right. I've shaken a bit the pair on the left and they ended some pixel higher than those on the right.
My point is : if I want to move the Metropolis 10HP to the left, it will collide with the A-110 pair on the right, and the move will be cancelled. I'll have to shake those A-110 on the right before I can move the Metropolis as I want to.
Thus, I need to shake each and every module from the second row, down to the bottom of my rack, before I start to rearrange my modules.
bellurypants
This is so rad!!
solitud
worker8 wrote:

My point is : if I want to move the Metropolis 10HP to the left, it will collide with the A-110 pair on the right, and the move will be cancelled. I'll have to shake those A-110 on the right before I can move the Metropolis as I want to.
Thus, I need to shake each and every module from the second row, down to the bottom of my rack, before I start to rearrange my modules.

Thanks for the screenshot. I understand the problem now. I have uploaded an update which hopefully improves the collision behaviour.

matttech wrote:

not meaning to winge - it's an excellent tool, and will make my rack planning LOADS better - but i'm guessing you want people to troubleshoot it/ point out bugs.


Exactly. Please post bugs! Although I probably not able fix them immediately, because I am on vacation ...
solitud
... nevertheless with the latest patch sneaked a new rack theme "Doepfer Style" into the modular grid wink
daren
Excellent new themes! Anymore coming up or would need contributors?
bellurypants
I haven't read all the posts, so this may have been suggested already, but it would be really cool if you could "friend" or "follow" other users to keep tabs on their modular progress and rating, et al.

Also, this is very much a petty thing, but it would be cool if you could chose the color of Monorocket cases. wink
solitud
daren wrote:
Excellent new themes! Anymore coming up or would need contributors?

Need contributors! The monorocket theme was created by fellow Muffwiggler user lessavyfav, I made the Doepfer one.
If you want chime in, do! I prefer themes of real existing, photorealistic cases and cabinets. No fantasy styles, no simple textures.
Contact me for technical details.
lessavyfav
Fantasy styles... You shouldn'ta said it now m'mind is spinning. LOTR themed stone and crystal for my maleko/wiard ;-)
daren
lessavyfav wrote:
Fantasy styles... You shouldn'ta said it now m'mind is spinning. LOTR themed stone and crystal for my maleko/wiard ;-)


It could be pretty interesting to see a case made of concrete or porcelain. hihi
bellurypants
solitud wrote:
daren wrote:
Excellent new themes! Anymore coming up or would need contributors?

Need contributors! The monorocket theme was created by fellow Muffwiggler user lessavyfav, I made the Doepfer one.
If you want chime in, do! I prefer themes of real existing, photorealistic cases and cabinets. No fantasy styles, no simple textures.
Contact me for technical details.


Gotcha, makes sense.
bellurypants
lessavyfav wrote:
Fantasy styles... You shouldn'ta said it now m'mind is spinning. LOTR themed stone and crystal for my maleko/wiard ;-)


My Dixie is Frodo, Dr. Octature is Gandalf and Rene is Aragorn... Uh oh, this could be bad...
solitud
update
redesign of the rating function
The rating function of the Modular Grid is pretty much unused. I still think it´s a nice idea to collect quick opinions about a module from the community, although I know it´s difficult to rate a blind panel.
Nonetheless I redesigned the function and made it more prominent on the module detail pages.
It´s a kind of an experiment. If wigglers still don´t use it I may abandoned this feature in the future.
solitud
update
iPad fixes
I did some fixes for iPad and other touch devices.
The "Switch Rack" Dropdown works now as expected.
Drag and drop should work better. Fixed an annoying "autoscroll" behaviour, when you grabbed a module.
vanderLooy
Very nice website! thumbs up

Just flattred SlayerBadger!
blitzcarriage
Thanks for making this, i've spent hours designing systems already!!!!

applause applause applause applause
vanderLooy
Man, I'm so impressed by your website! Just added the Cwejman BLD and it went so fluent.

1 question, I changed the image of the CTG-VC to the latest color (yellow), but I can image people prefer to have it in the older color (green). Is there some way to store multiple images or would it be better to add another CTG-VC with the yellow color?
solitud
vanderLooy wrote:
Very nice website! thumbs up
Just flattred SlayerBadger!

Thanks, I promise to put all the money back in new modules, so your invest is for good purpose It's peanut butter jelly time!
solitud
vanderLooy wrote:
1 question, I changed the image of the CTG-VC to the latest color (yellow), but I can image people prefer to have it in the older color (green). Is there some way to store multiple images or would it be better to add another CTG-VC with the yellow color?

Mhh. in such cases I think we should simply add two modules and perhaps put the color in the description.

Btw.
minor update
AutoLogin Function
You can check a box on the login page which should preserve your login state. Attention: your password will be saved in a cookie on your computer (still with a low level encryption scheme), so do not check the box on a public machine.
mDang
Amazing work man ! Ipad editing is really cool !
defenestration
manufacturer request: Mutable instruments

also I noticed the 42hp anushri pic when placed into a rack is getting scaled a bit funky, the left side is cropped a bit - I'm on win7 chrome
solitud
Added Mutable instruments and remapped the anushri.
Have to look whats going wrong with the image...
GodMadeUsFonky
it would be cool if you could search the modules based on release date, so that way you could easily see what modules were released lately
maudibe
Release date.... there are 700 and odd modules. That would be an awful lot of info to research and type in. You up for it? Dead Banana
GodMadeUsFonky
Well it's a wiki isn't it, you can add the info one by one
Fastus
Loving the new planner - got my layout before I actually picked up my case.

Perhaps this request is already in the queue, was hoping you could add manufacturer Innerclock Systems - an Ozzie outfit that makes the Sync-Gen IILs, a sync module listed under Other/unknown.

http://www.innerclocksystems.com/New%20ICS%20Lab%20Series.html
talkboxert
Un (*()@&)*&! believable.

Amazing piece of work, the workflow is superiouour! we're not worthy
worker8
Quote:
I have uploaded an update which hopefully improves the collision behaviour.

Thanks !
It's even easier to use.
subbasshead
a little feature request: when you change manufacturer name can it erase whatever previous search term was in the Mod Name
so eg I select Doepfer and then "A13" in Mod name
then change to Livewire & nothing is displayed due to the previous "A13" search term still being active...




(great work BTW!! thank you - will take some photos of missing modules that i own this weekend)
solitud
update
The Eurorack DB Data View
On the module detail page you can now see the matching data of a module from eurorackdb.com
Most interesting info is the entry about availability (in production, discontinued) and a link to the manufacturers detail page!
Thanks to John Noble from the eurorack database for his awesome work on the api integration!
solitud
GodMadeUsFonky wrote:
it would be cool if you could search the modules based on release date, so that way you could easily see what modules were released lately

This function will automatically be implemented as time goes by. The modules are default ordered after their submit date. When all the module data will be available new modules submitted will show up first.

Fastus wrote:

Perhaps this request is already in the queue, was hoping you could add manufacturer Innerclock Systems - an Ozzie outfit that makes the Sync-Gen IILs, a sync module listed under Other/unknown.

O.k., he is in.

subbasshead wrote:
a little feature request: when you change manufacturer name can it erase whatever previous search term was in the Mod Name
so eg I select Doepfer and then "A13" in Mod name
then change to Livewire & nothing is displayed due to the previous "A13" search term still being active...

Mhh, some people use the manufacturer dropdown to sharpen their search requests. Your suggestion would break this. I think about an alternative like individual clear buttons on the input/dropdown fields, so you don´t have to reset the whole form..
CF3
Crazy Awesome modular planner. SlayerBadger! we're not worthy screaming goo yo

Love the fact it's user editable. Now I can spend even more time fantasizing about systems I will never own Dead Banana

The only thing it could use is more/different case options.

Thanks for all the great work nanners
DomMorley
*Feature creep klaxon!!!*

I'd really love it if it were possible to display more than one case at a time, so i can see my full system (and proposed extras!) all at once.

In the meantime, though. This is an amazing resource - you've done a truly great job.
seek
Really great resource. Thank you.

I appreciate the decision not to use Flash, for iOS friendliness, but also because this seems to be the source of the instability with the modularplanner that would cause me to often have to reload the page 10+ times to get it to run (though even with that hassle, the modularplanner is still very helpful).
solitud
CF3 wrote:

The only thing it could use is more/different case options.

Wigglers must help. I need case photos!
DomMorley wrote:

I'd really love it if it were possible to display more than one case at a time, so i can see my full system (and proposed extras!) all at once.

A tough one. Will not come in near future, sorry. Buy a BIG monitor and open 2 webpages in two windows side by side wink
seek wrote:
I appreciate the decision not to use Flash, for iOS friendliness, but also because this seems to be the source of the instability with the modularplanner

Besides my Flash Skillz sucks. Dead Banana
subbasshead wrote:
a little feature request: when you change manufacturer name can it erase whatever previous search term was in the Mod Name
so eg I select Doepfer and then "A13" in Mod name
then change to Livewire & nothing is displayed due to the previous "A13" search term still being active...

update
I have implemented a "X Clear Module Name" Button on the right hand side of the module form input. This should speed up the clearance of the module field.
qu.one
i was hoping to contribute casing options, but no time.

i would however like to request that you can turn on/off the module swapping ability and be able to move in 1HP (or the like) increments.
pauk
applause
love that you can upload pictures for your personal diy modules.
i had holes in other planners waah
solitud
qu.one wrote:
i was hoping to contribute casing options, but no time

You can just send me the image. You do not have to do the Slicing/CSS job.
qu.one wrote:
i would however like to request that you can turn on/off the module swapping ability and be able to move in 1HP (or the like) increments.

The modules should move and snap in 1 HP already.
If the swapping is turned off, what should happen, when you drop modules above others. Stacking?
solitud
update
Responsive Layout
Modular Grid has now a responsive layout. This means browsing modules on your mobile phone should make more fun. The Rack View section is also updated and should look cleaner with large modulars, especially on your tablet, like iPad.
jnlkrt
solitud wrote:
update
Responsive Layout
Modular Grid has now a responsive layout. This means browsing modules on your mobile phone should make more fun. The Rack View section is also updated and should look cleaner with large modulars, especially on your tablet, like iPad.


wow, that`s a huge improvement, especially on the iphone! works like a charm now!
solitud
jnlkrt wrote:
wow, that`s a huge improvement, especially on the iphone! works like a charm now!

Thanks, unfortunately I screwed up the search function which is now working again Dead Banana
stk
Something I've noticed, the hit-detection used for replacing/swapping module positions is kinda buggy (win7, firefox latest) - it will often false-trigger a position swap when one is not required, and other times it is impossible to trigger a swap even when dragging the new module directly over the old one.
solitud
stk wrote:
Something I've noticed, the hit-detection used for replacing/swapping module positions is kinda buggy (win7, firefox latest) - it will often false-trigger a position swap when one is not required, and other times it is impossible to trigger a swap even when dragging the new module directly over the old one.

I know it´s not perfect, I try to improve it. In general I have to reproduce wrong behaviours/errors to fix them. So if you could send me the link to a rack with the combination of modules which show theses bugs and describe which module you dragged on which, this would be very helpful.
DonKartofflo
what a nice design! added the furthrrrr Generator!
mmelnick
Very cool - thank you
M-Circus
Let me just chime in and say that this is great. I'm really enjoying the planner. A particularly nice feature is the way it adds up the total power consumption for you.

I do however wonder wonder how reliable this consumption total is. I understand that being some sort of wiki, there may always be mistakes in the information entered by its users. I'm however more concerned about how the planner handles modules where no information about the power consumption has been entered what so ever. You might be in for a surprise if you trust the number stated, and the planner just leaves those modules out of the total.

If power consumption is a mandatory field when entering a new module, this might not be that big a problem though?
solitud
DonKartofflo wrote:
what a nice design! added the furthrrrr Generator!

Thanks! I added Endorphin.es as Manufacturer.
M-Circus wrote:

If power consumption is a mandatory field when entering a new module, this might not be that big a problem though?

Reliable data is always a problem on user generated content.
I have made bad experience with mandatory fields. Users get frustrated easily, especially beginners who have no clue about +12V, -12V, 5V. They just enter random values or skip the submit process if in doubt.
I know that the power calculation is not the strongest point of the modular grid, there is no calculation based on rows, btw.
Other planners might do that better. So people who want to rely on the feature should check, if all values are present in the popovers. As time goes by I am in good hope, that the data will be sanitized by the users. BTW.: On many modules detail pages you can crosscheck the powerdata from The Eurorackdatabase.
M-Circus
Ah, did not realize this infirmation was visible in the popovers. I guess we'll have to double check there then

I see you're point about people entering random values if this is made mandatory btw.
frozenkore
I really like the planner. I would like to put in a feature request though. Could there be an export to pdf/jpg or some sort of print to file function? I find it hard to share images of my modular without using a print screen. Plus if you give someone a link, the image isn't static. So if you start making changes, everyone else will see your changes. I would want to take a snapshot to share that wouldn't change. Then I can give the link so someone can see the "live" version of it.

Anyhow, just some thoughts. Guinness ftw!
solitud
frozenkore wrote:
Could there be an export to pdf/jpg or some sort of print to file function? I find it hard to share images of my modular without using a print screen. Plus if you give someone a link, the image isn't static. So if you start making changes, everyone else will see your changes. I would want to take a snapshot to share that wouldn't change. Then I can give the link so someone can see the "live" version of it.

It´s a great idea. I put it on the featurelist. Problem by now is that my cheapish webhoster does not allow to execute the necessary server bin.
solitud
O.k. probably not the most urgent needed feature, but ..

update
Module Animation
If you add a module in rack view, the module "flies into the rack".
Some users where not sure if the adding of a module was successful, after they clicked the add button or the module itself. The new animation should give a visual feedback.
solitud
Not the strongest feature of them all but for people who care:
Modular Grid has a Facebook Page!
http://www.facebook.com/ModularGrid
sausmatoe
we're not worthy

Just keeps getting better and better.
thebrotherspus
Absolutely loving modular grid!!
Perhaps there's already a way to do this but I was wondering if there's any way to select multiple modules at once on your layout and move them all together. Often I move one module out and then want to slide all the others over but have to move them one by one..... Not a big deal, obviously. Just figured I'd mention it.
Again, GREAT WORK SO FAR!!!!!!!!!!!! thumbs up applause
larhule
this shit needs a sticky
Fnord
this is fantastic. Soemone please add hordijk modules.
lionelfischer
i find it difficult to move a bunch of modules around. i liked how the old modularplanner would let me "pile" a bunch of modules on top of eachother and then slowly one by one move them to the desired place, like dealing a deck of cards. modulargrid doesnt let me do this so i end up having to move all kinds of modules around before i can start actually organizing anything, like a sliding puzzle game or something.

besides that issue i find the modular grid to be awesome, and wayyyy better than modular planner

another thought, can we have the option of making it smaller, like the old modularplanner, so that we can see the whole thing on one screen and be able to visualize the entire system better if we want to do so?

in a nutshell if we could be able to:

- "stack" modules when sorting everything around that would be super awesome

- zoom out to make the whole thing a bit smaller if we like. it could be in steps if thats easier to code. like "far" view and "normal" view or something… ?
stopped
in planning my first modular, modular planner did never want to work well on my machine, thanks much for writing this
defenestration
lionelfischer wrote:

in a nutshell if we could be able to:
- zoom out to make the whole thing a bit smaller if we like. it could be in steps if thats easier to code. like "far" view and "normal" view or something… ?


it is HTML5 site so just use the zoom function in your browser (usually ctrl + mousewheel)
User101
defenestration wrote:

it is HTML5 site so just use the zoom function in your browser (usually ctrl + mousewheel)


Never knew that - thanks!
Milanm
Loving the site, top work!

This may already have been suggested, I had a quick look to no avail:

Could there be a shuffle/random function to automagically rearrange your modules in the given space?

This would be ace
solitud
thebrotherspus wrote:
Perhaps there's already a way to do this but I was wondering if there's any way to select multiple modules at once on your layout and move them all together.

Would be great but hard to do. I had to quit my daytime job to do this zombie
lionelfischer wrote:

- "stack" modules when sorting everything around that would be super awesome

I was not a big fan of the old stack mode, always looking for buried modules which might be hiding somewhere under an other module. Perhaps there will be an option sometime to disable collision mode...
lionelfischer wrote:

- zoom out to make the whole thing a bit smaller if we like. it could be in steps if thats easier to code. like "far" view and "normal" view or something… ?

As mentioned by other wigglers: use the zoom function of your browser: cmd + on a mac.
Milanm wrote:

Could there be a shuffle/random function to automagically rearrange your modules in the given space?

Would be fun, not sure if very useful. Perhaps a sophisticated optimization algorithm to fill in dat last HP to max out your rack razz
solitud
update
Keyboard Shortcuts
For all you old school keyboard wizards: you can now compose your rack with your keys. In a nutshell:
Cursor: cycle through module selection
d: duplicate module
DEL: delete module
ESC: deselect module, hide edit buttons
ENTER: enter Module Move Mode

In Module Move Mode:
Cursor: move module
ESC: Cancel module move, back to Module Select Mode
ENTER: drop module on new position

There is a legend for this keys on the top right side of the rack edit view.

Additional smaller fixes and features:
Popover State is now correctly memorized between logins.
On the homepage is a link to the Top 100 modules statistic page and a link to the Modular Grid Facebook Page on http://www.facebook.com/ModularGrid
solitud
update
Speed improvement of Rack View
Slow rendering of the racks bugged me from day one. This should now be noticeable faster.
solitud
update
Order modules by popularity.
If you ever asked yourself what is the most popular 8HP Eurorack VCA or what is the most popular Harvestman module, Modular Grid answers this for you. Simply sort your modules after popularity in the module browser!
solitud
update
Link to Searchresults
A small but maybe useful enhancement. Search parameters of the module browser are now added to the URL. So if you got some interesting search results for a module query you can copy the URL from your web browsers addressbar and send it to a friend. Example: if you ever wanted to know the most popular Clock Modulator in Euroland click this link:
http://modulargrid.net/e/modules/browser?SearchName=&SearchVendor=&Sea rchFunction=42&SearchTe=&SearchTemethod=max&order=popular
SYN7HOR
Great stuff. Thanks!
thiagozt
man, I am so addicted to modulargrid - I probably put together over 200 configurations, I usually do them 50 at a time, then I delete all of them and start over. I can do this forever. This is not an exaggeration, I am totally serious.
solitud
thiagozt wrote:
man, I am so addicted to modulargrid - I probably put together over 200 configurations, I usually do them 50 at a time, then I delete all of them and start over. I can do this forever. This is not an exaggeration, I am totally serious.

So you are the cause why the server performance behaves like a roller coaster wink
Btw. I am happy you guys dropped some comments. I was starting to feel lonely in this desolate desert that once was a blossoming thread.
SYN7HOR
Why is this thread in the euro section?

Funny thing... When you sort stuff by popularity, Maths dominates most categories. smile
solitud
What can I do? Everybody wants a Math. Even worse it is listed in nearly EVERY category w00t
SYN7HOR
Again, shouldn't this now be in the general modular section?
defenestration
I do believe there is a post for modulargrid in the general modular section - modulargrid started as Eurorack-only though.

modulargrid is just so freaking awesome that I think all of us are just speechless at this point Rockin' Banana!

I was thinking it might be nice for people to be able to tag their racks as 'actual' or 'experimental'. Then there would be two popularity lists - one generated by modules that are in peoples' (supposedly) actual racks that they have in front of them, vs a list of modules that are popular in peoples' imaginations
Wizmob
Used the java-planner for a while, no information or options really. This site is stunning.
solitud
defenestration wrote:
I do believe there is a post for modulargrid in the general modular section - modulargrid started as Eurorack-only though.

Don´t know, not from me. I posted in the Dotcom and Buchla forums, when I supported the respective formats, but quantity of resonance was not overwhelming.

defenestration wrote:

modulargrid is just so freaking awesome that I think all of us are just speechless at this point Rockin' Banana!

I like to believe that. Thanks for kind words.

defenestration wrote:

I was thinking it might be nice for people to be able to tag their racks as 'actual' or 'experimental'. Then there would be two popularity lists - one generated by modules that are in peoples' (supposedly) actual racks that they have in front of them, vs a list of modules that are popular in peoples' imaginations

You are afraid that the stats are biased by wishful thinking? Probably they are.
Problem of you proposal is, that the imaginary racks will also contain modules the people own, which is a bias again.
In the long time the really great and useful modules, also the great basic ones, will maintain the top positions. And thats what this list is for: a barometer for modules people like. Not a reflection of the modules they practical own. And there is still the rating mechanism. People begin to use it slowly...

Wizmob wrote:
Used the java-planner for a while, no information or options really. This site is stunning.

Great first post wink Welcome!
skecr8r
solitud wrote:
Don´t know, not from me. I posted in the Dotcom and Buchla forums, when I supported the respective formats, but quantity of resonance was not overwhelming.


I seriously nearly laughed out loud when I read some of the responses in the Buchla/Serge subforum. Someone said that they wouldn't bother to use your planner unless you somehow managed to import all the hard work they did typing in their freaking 30 or so modules into some other planner. At the same time, people added 800+ modules of Eurorack, with no standard pictures provided or anything from a single distributor/supplier, in the same period of time. Those Banana people are getting lazy... hihi

Anyway, I think your planner is the best I've seen and I use it often. One thing, though: when I have hovered over a module, the trashcan and i-buttons remain there. Couldn't you fade them out after like 5-10 seconds? Would improve the planner, in my opinion. Sorry if you already covered this in an earlier post..
solitud
skecr8r wrote:
I seriously nearly laughed out loud when I read some of the responses in the Buchla/Serge subforum. Someone said that they wouldn't bother to use your planner unless you somehow managed to import all the hard work they did typing in their freaking 30 or so modules into some other planner. At the same time, people added 800+ modules of Eurorack, with no standard pictures provided or anything from a single distributor/supplier, in the same period of time. Those Banana people are getting lazy... hihi

It was a big effort to introduce the new formats, even more with building the data importer for the Squiggletronics zipped XMLs. Those were made with focus for the offline Java planners. I had a though discussion with one guy. At the end unfortunately the big formats didn´t get the attention I hoped. Anyway, perhaps this will change some day. Dotcom is on a good way.

skecr8r wrote:

Anyway, I think your planner is the best I've seen and I use it often. One thing, though: when I have hovered over a module, the trashcan and i-buttons remain there. Couldn't you fade them out after like 5-10 seconds? Would improve the planner, in my opinion. Sorry if you already covered this in an earlier post..

Thanks. You can just press ESC and the buttons will vanish. Good enough for the time being?
mantiwhore
http://modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-fil-1-convulsion-generator
the manufacturer is Future Sound Systems, http://www.futuresoundsystems.co.uk/
solitud
Added Future Sound Systems
ping panic
solitud, man of the year nanners
Rutherford
Would it be possible to have some permanent coloration/shading for modules that i'm planning to get? Like orange for "Wanted", blue for "Shipping" etc?
Thanks for an awesome planner!
FSK1138
i love modulargrid - i have submitted about 40 modules along with some private DIY stuff of my own it is the best layout interface for euro
WaveRider
Milanm wrote:

Could there be a shuffle/random function to automagically rearrange your modules in the given space?




well anyone have trouble with modules flying around? re-arranging a nearly full case is pretty insane -lost patience...

I would love an option to turn moving modules "off" and be able to pile 2 on each other... just while I move things around.... seriously, i just don't get it
Rutherford
WaveRider wrote:


well anyone have trouble with modules flying around? re-arranging a nearly full case is pretty insane -lost patience...

I would love an option to turn moving modules "off" and be able to pile 2 on each other... just while I move things around.... seriously, i just don't get it


Second that. Even though it's easy just to add another row for this purpose, a "off"-mode would be great.
Rutherford
WaveRider wrote:


well anyone have trouble with modules flying around? re-arranging a nearly full case is pretty insane -lost patience...

I would love an option to turn moving modules "off" and be able to pile 2 on each other... just while I move things around.... seriously, i just don't get it


Second that. Even though it's easy just to add another row for this purpose, a "off"-mode would be great.
solitud
WaveRider wrote:

well anyone have trouble with modules flying around? re-arranging a nearly full case is pretty insane -lost patience...

I would love an option to turn moving modules "off" and be able to pile 2 on each other... just while I move things around.... seriously, i just don't get it

Is it not working, because the collision detection gives faulty results or is it not working because you have many small empty spots and have to rearrange everything to place a new module?
I will consider to implement stack mode, because some people have requested it.
Workarounds in the meantime:
1. add an empty row to "park" your modules like Rutherford suggested it.
2. use keyboard shortcuts (cursor arrows) to move modules more precisely.
WaveRider
solitud wrote:
WaveRider wrote:

well anyone have trouble with modules flying around? re-arranging a nearly full case is pretty insane -lost patience...

I would love an option to turn moving modules "off" and be able to pile 2 on each other... just while I move things around.... seriously, i just don't get it

Is it not working, because the collision detection gives faulty results or is it not working because you have many small empty spots and have to rearrange everything to place a new module?
I will consider to implement stack mode, because some people have requested it.
Workarounds in the meantime:
1. add an empty row to "park" your modules like Rutherford suggested it.
2. use keyboard shortcuts (cursor arrows) to move modules more precisely.


well it'S mathematics, you got to have some empty space, the algorithm behaves very badly under certain circumstances. You would have to try my 18u full rack, and try to move things around. Very frustrating. And an empty row is far away with 18u.

This concept can't work i.m.o. the whole point to use a planner is to place our modules where we want and now the modules moves themselves and jump around or from row to row. seriously, i just don't get it

that kind of topology algorithm is just very hard to nail down, it borders on AI man... it will never guess right about what I want to do anyway...
n0rd
The auto arrange is a nice idea but unless it can read the persons mind it's never gonna move it to the right place.

At times it feels like a sliding puzzle. seriously, i just don't get it
elektrokick
I've also experienced some problems with the auto arrange lately. I.e a module tagging another module for position swap even if it's not touching it, and sometimes modules seem to disappear completely after a swap, then I find it again "hiding" behind another module at a random position in the rack.

Still I'd rather have the auto arrange feature, even if it's a little quirky at times, than not have it all smile
seank
dude, your website rules.

solitud
n0rd wrote:
The auto arrange is a nice idea but unless it can read the persons mind it's never gonna move it to the right place.

elektrokick wrote:
I've also experienced some problems with the auto arrange lately.n "hiding" behind another module at a random position in the rack.

I put a lot effort in the Auto Arrange mode but I fully understand that it will never work perfect. I will think about implementing a stack mode, but there are some catches. Its probably easy to turn off Auto Arrange, but when you turn it ON again, hell will break loose. zombie
seank wrote:
dude, your website rules.

Thanks a lot! And WOW! How long does it take to compose THIS!?
seank
i would kill for a feature that allowed you to see all of your racks like that. then you could click a rack and "dive in" to make any adjustments.
solitud
seank wrote:
i would kill for a feature that allowed you to see all of your racks like that. then you could click a rack and "dive in" to make any adjustments.

Would be cool, but I have to kill my job to have time for this Dead Banana
seank
haha. ok, photoshop will have to do for now then.
thebrotherspus
perhaps this has already been mentioned, or perhaps it already exists... but what about an "undo" button. there have been many times that i've moved a module to the wrong spot accidentally which then moves other modules like a domino effect. it would be nice to just be able to click "undo" and it would erase the last move and put everything back as it was.
ALSO, i love the site!!!!!!!! keep up the amazing work! thumbs up
Fastus
Just used the site again to reshuffle some modules - can't say enough how great this functionality is, and how much I appreciate it!
Thanks!!
solitud
Fastus wrote:
Just used the site again to reshuffle some modules - can't say enough how great this functionality is, and how much I appreciate it!
Thanks!!

Thanks a lot!
jimmyambulance
didn't read all 17 pages, but would it be very difficult to mix formats? i've been thinking a lot about a buchla/euro mix, and it would be great to use modulargrid to plan it out.
solitud
jimmyambulance wrote:
didn't read all 17 pages, but would it be very difficult to mix formats? i've been thinking a lot about a buchla/euro mix, and it would be great to use modulargrid to plan it out.

Yes, it will be difficult and will not come very soon ...
solitud
update
Modular Grid introduces Manufacturers Pages
Manufactures should contact me for info, how to claim and update your microsite.
I made an example page where you can see how it will look like:
http://modulargrid.net/e/vendors/view/175
infradead
oh man this thing is great.

only thing i wish is there was a BST 70% filter for the price hihi
seank
omg, i want a spinal cat panel.
oscillateur
Excellent site/tool... I'll blame it if I end up spending too much money on a modular sometime next year wink.

One small thing that could be improved though : when the selected module is on the left half of the window, maybe have the popup on the right side of it instead of the left ? As it is now, the info in the popup is not visible for modules that are near the left edge of a window.

Thanks smile.
Mefistophelees
seank wrote:
omg, i want a spinal cat panel.


solitud, I imagine if you printed some Spinal Cat bind panel stickers you could sell quite a few!
solitud
Mefistophelees wrote:
seank wrote:
omg, i want a spinal cat panel.


solitud, I imagine if you printed some Spinal Cat bind panel stickers you could sell quite a few!

Is'nt there already a heavy competition in the blind panel market? If the people are not interested in the modular grid anymore I may step into the blind panel business! Whatever works. But I dont do stickers, I go for premium.
haesslich
probably this has been asked before, but 18 pages is too much to search:

is there a function to show how many HP are used in a case that I set up? it calculates the power, etc., HP calc would be nice for quick planning.
solitud
update
The mighty Command Center
Rocket Science. The Command Center gives you a quick overview of all your Racks. It does that by generating screenshots of your racks and updates them in (nearly) realtime. You can even link to the fullsize screenshots from your threads on muffwiggler. It´s in beta state so expect some things beeing a little rough.

News from the labs
Manufacturers can post news and updates about their modules on the modulargrid homepage. Resonance from manufacturers is low by this time, but perhaps some of them will drop in.

Improved Stats
The amount of people who rated a module is now displayed.

More
Some minor improvements:
- rearranged the navigation a little to make it clearer
- new spinner, because the old one had a negative impact on rendering performance.
- A Logo (kind of)
- Smashed a nasty bug where it was impossible to drag the first module when you created a new rack.
solitud
seank wrote:
i would kill for a feature that allowed you to see all of your racks like that. then you could click a rack and "dive in" to make any adjustments.

This should work now in approach.
http://modulargrid.net/e/racks/command_center/229
seank
HOLY SHIT.

this is amazing. donated! thank you so much for putting this together and adding literally every feature that has been requested.
solitud
seank wrote:
HOLY SHIT.

this is amazing. donated! thank you so much for putting this together and adding literally every feature that has been requested.

Thanks a lot! I wanted to do the screenshot thing for quite a while but like Chief Brody says: I needed a bigger boat for this. I now have a server which can do such things, and from there it was a rather small step from the big screenshots to the command center overview you liked to see.
solitud
update
Optimize Rack Space
This feature automatically reorders your modules to optimize the usage of rack space. Modular Grid does all the puzzle work for you, like combining adequate modules, so that everything fits proper in a row, if possible.
You can realign modules to fill that empty spot in the middle of your rack or shuffle your modules just for fun.
To make this feature happen I had to solve the NP-complete subset sum problem through a pseudo-polynomial dynamic progamming approach which will probably bring me the Nobel Price. At least that's what I am feeling right now.
You find the button under "My Modular", I hope you will like it.
qu.one
solitud wrote:
update
Optimize Rack Space
This feature automatically reorders your modules to optimize the usage of rack space. Modular Grid does all the puzzle work for you, like combining adequate modules, so that everything fits proper in a row, if possible.
You can realign modules to fill that empty spot in the middle of your rack or shuffle your modules just for fun.
To make this feature happen I had to solve the NP-complete subset sum problem through a pseudo-polynomial dynamic progamming approach which will probably bring me the Nobel Price. At least that's what I am feeling right now.
You find the button under "My Modular", I hope you will like it.


LOVE IT. donation coming your way.
rollmottle
Killer tool! Great job. Glad somebody finally brought this into HTML5/tablet friendly-land.

One feature that I've always wished all the planners had and maybe you can bring it to life 8_) : a way to designate or separate out added rows as "not officially part of this setup yet." In all the planners I've used, I usually end up adding an additional row to my setup where can I chuck stuff so I don't have to delete modules I may want to just quickly move out of the way to test new modules. It makes testing new modules in your layout very quick and easy and still allows you to have a full idea of everything you have in play. The downside is that it throws off the mA and cost totals. Would love a way to designate rows as or have a separate area that is "scratch" that doesn't mess with the main setup. Make sense?

Oh yeah, also per row cost & mA totals would be great too!

Again, nice work! Clap It's motherfucking bacon yo
rollmottle
solitud wrote:
update
Optimize Rack Space
This feature automatically reorders your modules to optimize the usage of rack space. Modular Grid does all the puzzle work for you, like combining adequate modules, so that everything fits proper in a row, if possible.
You can realign modules to fill that empty spot in the middle of your rack or shuffle your modules just for fun.
To make this feature happen I had to solve the NP-complete subset sum problem through a pseudo-polynomial dynamic progamming approach which will probably bring me the Nobel Price. At least that's what I am feeling right now.
You find the button under "My Modular", I hope you will like it.


Just used this. Best feature!
WaveRider
here is my rack:
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/8271


I don'T get it. It's impossible to re-arrange ANYTHING. if I want to swap the position of the envelator and 132-3 vca in the top row for exemple, they pop back into place. wtf????? as I said, it's really nice and all, but I don't get how I can re-arrange this rack. And basically it's what a planer is used for.
Drumdrumdrumdrum
@WaveRider. Make yourself an extra row for "holding".
solitud
WaveRider wrote:
here is my rack:
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/8271


I don'T get it. It's impossible to re-arrange ANYTHING. if I want to swap the position of the envelator and 132-3 vca in the top row for exemple, they pop back into place. wtf????? as I said, it's really nice and all, but I don't get how I can re-arrange this rack. And basically it's what a planer is used for.

At the current state it is not possible to drop larger modules on slimmer ones. You can not drop the Envelator above the 132 because Envelator is 10HP vs 8HP 132. You can swap it the other way around: drop 132 on Envelator. I have successfully tested it on your rack. If it is still not working drop me a note with info about your browser.
It might also help to add another row to your rack which acts as a temporary space for arrange purpose. You can remove the temporary row later if you are finished with your arrangement.

Edit: just like Drumdrumdrumdrum said
Mefistophelees
WaveRider wrote:
here is my rack:
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/8271

I don'T get it. It's impossible to re-arrange ANYTHING.



Try logging out and in again.
Mefistophelees
For the best rated modules you've listed they must have 3 votes. I'd raise that a bit to 7 or even 10. Ideally a better algorithm should be used that takes into account numbers of votes and rating but that could get complicated!


BTW It says "Buy my Album" on the front page. Shouldn't that be "Buy our product" ;-)
WaveRider
Drumdrumdrumdrum wrote:
@WaveRider. Make yourself an extra row for "holding".


well I already am at 6 rows with my base, it's a hassle to drag down modules 1 by 1, 6 rows down -I give up

I DON't GET why swapping the place of 2 modules has to involve such a workaround... seriously, i just don't get it you kids sure love to drag icons
Drumdrumdrumdrum
I think red track suits (sweat suits) need to be sold on your site. 8_)


.......and yes, I do like dragging icons around. I'm doing it right now on my iPad.
WaveRider
Drumdrumdrumdrum wrote:

.......and yes, I do like dragging icons around. I'm doing it right now on my iPad.


lol it'S all I see when I go out now, people dragging icons on portable devices applause in the metro, on the streets, in cafes, in clubs -no wonder I stay home wiggling
solitud
Mefistophelees wrote:
Try logging out and in again.

Hello IT. Did you try to turn it off and on again smile
Seriously, logout should not be necessary. If anything works odd, a page reload should "fix" it.

Mefistophelees wrote:
I'd raise that a bit to 7 or even 10.

I will increase the limit for sure. The low numbers where necessary to get the whole rating thing started. Look at the other formats, there are ZERO ratings for any module yet.
Mefistophelees wrote:

BTW It says "Buy my Album" on the front page. Shouldn't that be "Buy our product" ;-)

Yay, actually someone listened to it, thanks! SlayerBadger!

WaveRider wrote:

well I already am at 6 rows with my base, it's a hassle to drag down modules 1 by 1, 6 rows down -I give up

Sorry that it didn't work for you. I do my best to improve the planner over time, but it's hard to make it feel right for everyone. If you want to give it another shot try using the keyboard mode. Select a module, press "enter", move it with cursor keys, press "enter" again to place it on new destination.

Drumdrumdrumdrum wrote:
I think red track suits (sweat suits) need to be sold on your site. 8_)

I got another one for christmas!
Entrainer
Would it be possible or favorable to add a "search by price" function?
Like $1-100, $101-200, $201-300, etc?
solitud
Entrainer wrote:
Would it be possible or favorable to add a "search by price" function?
Like $1-100, $101-200, $201-300, etc?

Many modules do not have prices attached and I want not to complicate the searchform anymore.
Perhaps a sort option, something like "Order by Price"?
Entrainer
solitud wrote:

Many modules do not have prices attached and I want not to complicate the searchform anymore.
Perhaps a sort option, something like "Order by Price"?


Fair, good point.

I think an "Order by Price" would be awesome! I'm considering a
separate "low-cost" system. Just to get funky with it... more room,
crazy cheap stuff. Experimental.

Enjoying your effort so far. I was a late adopter, having grown
fond of the previous long-stay. Took awhile to adapt, different
ergonomics, but now I'm catching on. Great work!
solitud
update
Order Modules by Price
On user request: Find out what is the most expensive VCA with max 8HP or the cheapest Cwejman module by sorting the results by price in the module browser.
Sort order is only descending, sorry for that, you first have to scroll through the expensive stuff to go for the modules.
solitud
update
Hot Racks
At the bottom of the homepage you can find the hottest racks people currently working on.
Those racks got the most views in a defined time period. The list is updated every 2 hours.
solitud
update
Shopping List
The Shopping List simply lists all modules of a rack and sums up prices. Print it out before you visit your local modular dealer. You can link to your shopping list, too. Will look like this:
http://modulargrid.net/e/racks/shopping_list/5756

Find it in "My Modular".
Karl_Joseph
Is there a way I can see how other users of modules rated the modules? You know like an average of how many stars they were rated at?

Karl
solitud
Karl_Joseph wrote:
Is there a way I can see how other users of modules rated the modules? You know like an average of how many stars they were rated at?

I am not exactly sure what you mean.
- In the list "Top Modules" on the homepage you see how many users have rated a module.
- On the user profile page there is a box "Rated Modules" where you can see which modules and how many modules a user rated.
SYN7HOR
Love these new functions. Keep it up!
Karl_Joseph
solitud wrote:
Karl_Joseph wrote:
Is there a way I can see how other users of modules rated the modules? You know like an average of how many stars they were rated at?

I am not exactly sure what you mean.
- In the list "Top Modules" on the homepage you see how many users have rated a module.
- On the user profile page there is a box "Rated Modules" where you can see which modules and how many modules a user rated.


I want to see an average of all the ratings, for any module.
noisetheorem
solitud wrote:
haima wrote:
also - i guess there's a slight issue as now there's two "maths" in the database...

maybe make it so you can't add a module that has the same name?

good idea, will implement such a function. didnt expect that wigglers upload so fast!


Or instead, perhaps there should be a vetting process? Added modules need to 'approved'. That could get crazy though..
solitud
Karl_Joseph wrote:

I want to see an average of all the ratings, for any module.

O.K. the average rating value for all modules is now calculated.
On the homepage under "Top Modules rated by users" I added this:

"Any module with a rating better than Ø 4.30 is considered to be above average."

Wigglers really love their modules, so high standards here ...

In addition I made some further tweaks:
- Modules need to be voted at least 4 times to appear in the list (before 3)
- the lists are cached for 15 minutes due to the increased server traffic. We had 1000 visitors on a single day just yesterday!
stromcat
solitud wrote:
haima wrote:
also - i guess there's a slight issue as now there's two "maths" in the database...

maybe make it so you can't add a module that has the same name?

good idea, will implement such a function. didnt expect that wigglers upload so fast!


I uploaded the second one - reason being that I want the original design in there (that's the one I actually own!). If you don't allow same names, wouldn't it be a problem to have the new and old and new versions of things in there?
exper
That could be a good idea. I'd like to see a selection of pics for a module. Or instance, original Maths, new knobs maths. Or planar, regular and flipped. That way votes and usage counts will not be thrown off by people using two different versions of the same thing.

Black or white Rene as another example.
Mercutio
Thanks for these app... i love it.

Will be cool to add a red (or whatever) line around module we plan...to see actual set up and whishing module...(difficult for me to translate !!)
Karl_Joseph
solitud wrote:
Karl_Joseph wrote:

I want to see an average of all the ratings, for any module.

O.K. the average rating value for all modules is now calculated.
On the homepage under "Top Modules rated by users" I added this:

"Any module with a rating better than Ø 4.30 is considered to be above average."

Wigglers really love their modules, so high standards here ...

In addition I made some further tweaks:
- Modules need to be voted at least 4 times to appear in the list (before 3)
- the lists are cached for 15 minutes due to the increased server traffic. We had 1000 visitors on a single day just yesterday!


I see it now! Love it! Your site is the best!
solitud
exper wrote:
That could be a good idea. I'd like to see a selection of pics for a module. Or instance, original Maths, new knobs maths. Or planar, regular and flipped. That way votes and usage counts will not be thrown off by people using two different versions of the same thing.

Black or white Rene as another example.


I looked at the possibilities some time ago and found all solutions to complicated in terms of changes to the userinterface and of course in the time I had to spend in development.
Logically there could also be the possibility that Module 2 with new knobs is far better than Module 1 with old knobs, so it could make sense to differentiate them.
Same goes with color versions. Perhaps some people are interested to find out which module color flavor is most favored. I don't know. I know the current solution is not pretty but at least it's simple and works (kind of)...
solitud
P.S. the spam bots have arrived. Oh, those days of innocence will soon be gone ...
sinemod
Is there a way to draw cable
And i had this dream to be able to set pointers to
( simple circles with pointer that wou can move and rotate freely)
solitud
sinemod wrote:
Is there a way to draw cable
And i had this dream to be able to set pointers to
( simple circles with pointer that wou can move and rotate freely)

A cable patching feature is not planned, sorry.
I don't understand your rotating circle dream. Has it something to do with cables, than it's also not possible Dead Banana
exper
I think he's referring to a way to notate patches, as in putting circles over knobs to show its position.

There is this coming soon, which will be a paid application, but it looks great for notating patches. Nice to use in conjunction with modulargrid on the go, and RichyHo's app for saving your ideas...

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=61984
solitud
Yeah, Richies planner looks great. I wrote already in his thread that his native Java approach can probably process complex animation stuff way faster than modulargrid, which is actually a Javascript App.
So if Richie gets this patching thing right I am glad I don't have to do it, because my solution would not be as good/fast as his.
Perhaps we will get some kind of RichieHo<->Modulargrid import interface some day, who knows.
John_Chowning
i don't know if this is a commonly repeated thought, or an original one, but i am going to say it anyways:

the modulargrid is one of the best ways to get non-muff-wigglers to understand the joys of wiggling muffs.

i sometimes compare it to a video game like Lego Star Wars. If you mess around with it for 30 minutes, you feel a compulsion to go online and buy star wars merchandise or lego merchandise.

the only better gateway drug is to drag a newb in front of an actual hardware or software modular.
solitud
thanks for kind words
qu.one
unsure if this was requested or not, but possibly a way to delete an entire row?
solitud
qu.one wrote:
unsure if this was requested or not, but possibly a way to delete an entire row?

At the moment you can just delete the last row if you click on "Edit Rack" and decrease the number of rows.
You should remove the modules in the last row first, else they will be captured in the twilight zone.
RichyHo
solitud wrote:
Yeah, Richies planner looks great. I wrote already in his thread that his native Java approach can probably process complex animation stuff way faster than modulargrid, which is actually a Javascript App.
So if Richie gets this patching thing right I am glad I don't have to do it, because my solution would not be as good/fast as his.
Perhaps we will get some kind of RichieHo<->Modulargrid import interface some day, who knows.

I knew there was something I was meant to be doing! thumbs up
meta
Just discovered Modular Grid. This absolutely reeks of legitimacy.

Really like your UX.

Due to some sort of email delivery issue on my end, I never got the registration email. Hope that doesn't cause any problems.
solitud
RichyHo wrote:

I knew there was something I was meant to be doing! thumbs up

thumbs up
solitud
meta wrote:

Due to some sort of email delivery issue on my end, I never got the registration email. Hope that doesn't cause any problems.

You can not edit module specs without clicking on the activation email.
You can request the activation email again:
1. login
2. Click on "Me: meta" in navigation bar
3. Click on "edit user" beside your username
4. Click on "request a new confirmation email!" right hand side
meta
Fixed it. Thanks!
solitud
update
ModularGrid supports Frac
Finally, plan your Frac rack on the grid.
solitud
Did some facelifts and small bugfixes:

1. Instead of the registration form on the homepage there is now a simple login form.
2. Optimization for iOS devices. It's now possible to login/out properly, especially with anonymous accounts.
3. Related Racks on the Module View are now paginated, ordered by newest racks and also cached for a slight speed improvement.
4. Fixed a bug where it was impossible to duplicate a rack when it was not in Eurorack format.
dan_k
Nice. Really enjoying this planner, thank you so much for your efforts!

Guinness ftw!
r1n9o
Awesome! Latest fixes rock!

we're not worthy
Endosine
Love the ModularGrid! Any chance we could get the max HP bumped up a bit to 198? I have 1 meter long rails that are a bit above the current max limit of 192.
SunSpots
hey solitud, what about an option to "lock" a row?
That way when we select "optomize" it won't shuffle that locked row(s)?

Often times I have a row exactly how it needs to be, but need to optomize to shuffle the others around to maximize space. Anyways, think about how it can be done. Thanks so much for providing this service for free. I spend ungodly amounts of time building racks.
solitud
Endosine wrote:
Love the ModularGrid! Any chance we could get the max HP bumped up a bit to 198? I have 1 meter long rails that are a bit above the current max limit of 192.


O.K. I will increase the limit in the next update later this week. I think I have increased it around 3 times the last 2 month. So if their is a guy who desperately needs 202 HP should raise his arm now or be mute forever.

SunSpots wrote:
hey solitud, what about an option to "lock" a row?
That way when we select "optomize" it won't shuffle that locked row(s)?

Often times I have a row exactly how it needs to be, but need to optomize to shuffle the others around to maximize space. Anyways, think about how it can be done. Thanks so much for providing this service for free. I spend ungodly amounts of time building racks.


Thats a great idea, but unfortunately bigger than my brain. I don´t think I can implement this very quick, the algorithm is rocket science already (at least for me).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subset_sum_problem
BTG
rollmottle wrote:
One feature that I've always wished all the planners had and maybe you can bring it to life 8_) : a way to designate or separate out added rows as "not officially part of this setup yet." In all the planners I've used, I usually end up adding an additional row to my setup where can I chuck stuff so I don't have to delete modules I may want to just quickly move out of the way to test new modules. It makes testing new modules in your layout very quick and easy and still allows you to have a full idea of everything you have in play. The downside is that it throws off the mA and cost totals. Would love a way to designate rows as or have a separate area that is "scratch" that doesn't mess with the main setup. Make sense?


+1

I'd like a 'holding bucket' on the bottom that can just keep a bunch of modules in it that don't affect price, current, width, etc. Somewhere to put stuff you're temporarily moving around or, in my case, a place for wishlist items -- that way I keep my actual rows full of gear I have, and then I have a tray of things I plan on buying or I'm considering. For example, I might three different oscillators in there and which I get depends on which shows up on BST next hihi

Right now I have an extra row for this, but that's just a bit clumsy..
analogPedagog
Can there be a 28hp rack option? For the older Doepfer mini cases?
solitud
analogPedagog wrote:
Can there be a 28hp rack option? For the older Doepfer mini cases?

The min limitation has cosmetic reasons: the themes don't look good anymore. Like Escher meets Dalí.
solitud
Max HP is 198 HP now.
BTG
solitud wrote:
analogPedagog wrote:
Can there be a 28hp rack option? For the older Doepfer mini cases?

The min limitation has cosmetic reasons: the themes don't look good anymore. Like Escher meets Dalí.


Speaking of which, any chance of new themes? =) Beauty Case, Happy Ending Kit, Livid Elements, TTA Folding hihi
oscillateur
I think the graphics for the previous themes were provided by users so if you have a relevant system maybe you can take pictures and help smile.

(I don't have any modular yet so I can't do anything for that wink )
solitud
oscillateur wrote:
I think the graphics for the previous themes were provided by users so if you have a relevant system maybe you can take pictures and help smile.

That's right, I need user input on this side.
It's not easy to get good and useful images. The process to slice them so that they can grow dynamically is time consuming so I am somewhat picky about the source quality.
But everyone who wants to contribute should pm me for detail info!
DedMousie
BTG wrote:
I'd like a 'holding bucket' on the bottom that can just keep a bunch of modules in it that don't affect price, current, width, etc.


I too do this with an extra row - which I also use when trying to shuffle things around - which brings me to MY feature request!

The "delete row" feature - could we specify WHICH row to delete?
Endosine
solitud wrote:
Max HP is 198 HP now.


Thanks a ton Solitud! Beer is on me next time I'm in Berlin! Guinness ftw!
solitud
Endosine wrote:
solitud wrote:
Max HP is 198 HP now.


Thanks a ton Solitud! Beer is on me next time I'm in Berlin! Guinness ftw!
thumbs up
BTG
So any chance of a 'holding bucket' or scratch area? Adding the extra row works, but then when I want to share it people are confused with the jumble of stuff in the third or fourth row
hmmm.....
larhule
The Plan B Model 28 is listed as 14hp (and the module takes up that much space on the site) but the module is actually 12hp, or at least the one I own is. How to go about fixing this? >> http://modulargrid.net/e/plan-b-model-28

The Plan B site doesn't list the hp of this module (http://www.ear-group.net/model_28.html). Seems unlikely but perhaps there are two versions of it?
solitud
larhule wrote:
The Plan B Model 28 is listed as 14hp (and the module takes up that much space on the site) but the module is actually 12hp, or at least the one I own is. How to go about fixing this? >> http://modulargrid.net/e/plan-b-model-28

Someone fixed it already. 12HP looks right.
meta
Still can't get over how full of win this app is.

Couple of very minor observations:

When you mouse over a module in the rack, it would be useful to have a plus icon to duplicate that module.

Also, I noticed that the design surface lets me place modules past the right edge of the rack.
HeWhoWantsJeans
God I love Modular Grid. I've been juggling rack setups for about a week now. It's been invaluable for figuring out my future placements. thumbs up
solitud
meta wrote:
Still can't get over how full of win this app is.

Thanks!
meta wrote:

Couple of very minor observations:

When you mouse over a module in the rack, it would be useful to have a plus icon to duplicate that module.

There is a keyboard shortcut for this. Mouse over a module and press the "d" key on your keyboard!
djthopa
Can we please get more rows?

I need 7.....

Thanks1!!
meta
solitud wrote:
There is a keyboard shortcut for this. Mouse over a module and press the "d" key on your keyboard!

Ah, just discovered keyboard mode. As a fellow developer, I love keyboard shortcuts! Thanks for putting that in there.
Kontexture
Thanks Ton!!! Modular Tetris is my is new favorite game. Mr. Green
In all sincerity, I use it everyday. Thanks!
Jaspo
If it site wasn't so damn good it wouldn't be worth mentioning. Take these suggestions with a grain of salt.

I know this is out of the scope of this project, but it would be nice if we had a way to imbed our racks on a blog or website. IFrame widget like soundcloud or snapshot that creates a linkable jpg of the rack.

An easier addition might be a profile page for each users that shows our racks on a single page (non editable) and we can put in a description.
meta
Right now you can embed an image of your rack. That's how some of the posts here are done.

However, I would suggest saving the image and uploading it to your blog separately, especially if your rack is not going to change often. That way we don't increase the load on the ModularGrid server unnecessarily. Might not be a real problem; just feels the right thing to do IMO.
solitud
Jaspo wrote:

I know this is out of the scope of this project, but it would be nice if we had a way to imbed our racks on a blog or website. IFrame widget like soundcloud or snapshot that creates a linkable jpg of the rack.

Don't know if you already discovered the screenshot function: on your rack view click on the "Screenshot" link. Wait a few seconds for the screenshot to show up in a new window. You can post the link from the URL bar of your browser to blogs and forums.

Jaspo wrote:

An easier addition might be a profile page for each users that shows our racks on a single page (non editable) and we can put in a description.

There is no description field yet, but you can already link to your "command center" page (this is of course not editable for other users). From there people can proceed to your user profile page.

Edit: Meta explained it already. Server load is not a big issue for now, but this can change. Also: if you edit the rack, the linked image will also change, if you retrigger the screenshot function.
solitud
meta wrote:
solitud wrote:
There is a keyboard shortcut for this. Mouse over a module and press the "d" key on your keyboard!

Ah, just discovered keyboard mode. As a fellow developer, I love keyboard shortcuts! Thanks for putting that in there.

I am a little in doubt if people use this and was in the mood to remove this feature. It´s also not perfect implemented (moving modules is sometimes a little slow). But I will give it some more time wink
shutterdownmax
I started using this for real about a week ago, and I just wanted to post here and say how brilliant it is. Looks great, smooth interface, and the database integration is fantastic. It's really helpful to get a look at all the available options in one place.

I was dubious at first, after it had seemed clunky during an earlier attempt--maybe the kinks weren't worked out, or maybe I didn't give it enough of a chance. Either way, glad I came back to it. Excellent work, and very generous of the developer and everyone filling up the database. Thank you!

The only thing I don't like is the accurate estimate of how much my 18u is ultimately going to cost. eek!
reppiks
the problem with ModularGrid is that my next imminently planned system expansion/rearrangement changes EVERY SINGLE DAY
rockwoofstone
I use keyboard mode all the time - the dropping of modules with the mouse is tough to do accurately when you're working on a large rack.
bouzoukijoe1
modulargrid f#$@%ing rules
solitud
update

Racks without boundaries
Now you can drag modules OUT of the rack. This should make it easier to rearrange modules in a full rack.

- you can drag out the modules in any direction
- if you drag a module out of the rack, space around the rack will be expanded, so you get enough parking space
- modules in the parking space are removed from the price and current calculation
- modules in the parking space are stored (but not their exact position, sorry)
- other users can not see your parked modules, they also do not show up in the screenshots
- a cat might appear

I hope this fixes the many problems user reported when they were shuffling their modules around. Tell me what you think.
SYN7HOR
Works great for me.

(Firefox with adblockers on win7)
CF3
bouzoukijoe1 wrote:
modulargrid f#$@%ing rules


screaming goo yo

Dragging modules works perfect for me in Safari.
oscillateur
solitud wrote:
update

Racks without boundaries
- a cat might appear


Hahah, that is awesome smile.
thebrotherspus
Great update! Very helpful! applause
telegasm
I was wondering if there are any plans for a patch mode? Sorry if this was mentioned before.
dowhilex
Do you have any insight on how many user created systems are identical?

Or is eurorack like a snowflake, no two systems are the same?
solitud
telegasm wrote:
I was wondering if there are any plans for a patch mode? Sorry if this was mentioned before.

You mean dragging cables between the modules? No serious plans, sorry. Look for Richies Java planner.
Perhaps I will do a kind of quick online sketchbook, where you could simply draw lines on the screenshots. But this would be as cheesy as it sounds.
solitud
dowhilex wrote:
Do you have any insight on how many user created systems are identical?

Or is eurorack like a snowflake, no two systems are the same?

I suck at those statistics, but I would say it´s the snowflake thing. You can click through the racks yourself. I never found a "twin" from two different guys.
Vsyevolod
I've been searching around on the Muffwiggler site for a side by side comparison of the actual differences between the various formats and haven't found it yet. Can anyone point me in the general direction?

Also, it would be great to have a page on the Modular Grid website that has this info also.

Stephen




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komyta
Vsyevolod,

Here's a thread where you can at least see the different sizes :

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9323&start=0
eole
really great job !
thank you, solitude nanners
reppiks
sometimes i want to browse modules at random - would it be possible to add "Random" module sorting alongside "Newest", "Alphabetic", "Popular" and "Price"?
magisterludi
If feature requests are possible, I have something I have been wanting for a while.

I would like to use one of my racks to search for other racks. That is, I would like to be presented with racks that contain the same or similar modules to mine.

That way I could see how others arranges similar sets of modules and also what others that have similar setups like me have that I don't.

That would be amazing.
solitud
reppiks wrote:
sometimes i want to browse modules at random - would it be possible to add "Random" module sorting alongside "Newest", "Alphabetic", "Popular" and "Price"?


I am not a big fan of random sorting, BUT ...

Click on the link and refresh your browser, each time a random module will appear wink
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/
solitud
magisterludi wrote:
If feature requests are possible, I have something I have been wanting for a while.

I would like to use one of my racks to search for other racks. That is, I would like to be presented with racks that contain the same or similar modules to mine.

That way I could see how others arranges similar sets of modules and also what others that have similar setups like me have that I don't.

That would be amazing.


Tricky one. How to define "similar modules"? Which racks to compare? Those with same width and height?
A query like "show all racks with oscillator and filter" will return nearly all racks. And the algorithm is prone to suck all the servers processing power.
I thought about the option to tag racks like "drone, effects, small system, ..." etc. then you can show all "drone" systems. How about that?
reppiks
That sounds cool. I like the idea of people being able to tag their racks with styles/genres/approaches that they use them for. Of course some people will hate the idea (don't want to pigeonhole etc) but they don't have to tag their own systems...
mheumann
I like the idea of tags for style or use...so long as you have a tag that reads "whatever comes out"
skullservant
I was just using this this morning to plan out a mini case! I really dig it. It's really informative. love
Mefistophelees
Is it possible to have a "synth voice" Function.

There are some modules that act as a full synth but you can't list them.
mheumann
Another suggested function: vactrol.
solitud
Mefistophelees wrote:
Is it possible to have a "synth voice" Function

O.K., Synth Voice is in.

mheumann wrote:
Another suggested function: vactrol.

I am not quite sure. Is Vactrol a function? Thought it's more like an electronic component. There was already the function "LPG" which I have now renamed to "Low Pass Gate". Is this sufficient or should there be a function "Vactrol"? Wigglers inform me!

Also a small update
Link back to a discussion thread from your rack
Your rack is being discussed on a forum? Click "Edit Rack" and enter the discussion URL as a backlink!
magisterludi
solitud wrote:
magisterludi wrote:
If feature requests are possible, I have something I have been wanting for a while.

I would like to use one of my racks to search for other racks. That is, I would like to be presented with racks that contain the same or similar modules to mine.

That way I could see how others arranges similar sets of modules and also what others that have similar setups like me have that I don't.

That would be amazing.


Tricky one. How to define "similar modules"? Which racks to compare? Those with same width and height?
A query like "show all racks with oscillator and filter" will return nearly all racks. And the algorithm is prone to suck all the servers processing power.
I thought about the option to tag racks like "drone, effects, small system, ..." etc. then you can show all "drone" systems. How about that?


Well, even something simpler than that could be very useful. For instance: "Show all racks that contain all the modules in my rack, failing that show racks that contain all but one of the modules in my rack, failing that show all racks that contain all but two of..."

That would be very interesting for me. Comparing arrangement, module combinations, etc.
rockwoofstone
Would it be possible to enable more than 6 rows in a rack? I need 7 for mine!
flabby
Just want to say top job!!! This has been perfect for me starting out!
spitznagl
The new "Racks without boundaries" is such a helpful feature. Thanks a lot for implementing that.

Do you have any preference on what to do when there are duplicates of modules? A "flag as duplicate" button might be useful. Currently, there are two EO-310 and two EO-311. Mr. Green
solitud
magisterludi wrote:

Well, even something simpler than that could be very useful. For instance: "Show all racks that contain all the modules in my rack, failing that show racks that contain all but one of the modules in my rack, failing that show all racks that contain all but two of..."

That would be very interesting for me. Comparing arrangement, module combinations, etc.

I will check this out. In general I now how to do it, but I don't know how to do the query FAST. This recursion things tend to be always slow. I have already contacted the SQL knight, a friend of me, who lives the medieval lifestyle (long swords and chain mail), but is also the wizard of database queries.
spitznagl wrote:

Do you have any preference on what to do when there are duplicates of modules? A "flag as duplicate" button might be useful. Currently, there are two EO-310 and two EO-311. Mr. Green

There is already a flag "private/duplicate", but only the guy who uploaded the module can set it. Because if you set the flag the module becomes invisible for other users and so other users can not undo it which could lead to the problem of vanishing modules, if users set the flag by mistake ... I am not good in explaining it, in short, I have fixed the Eo duplicates ...
solitud
rockwoofstone wrote:
Would it be possible to enable more than 6 rows in a rack? I need 7 for mine!

The limitation has a performance reason. The bigger the rack, the slower drag'n'drop performance.
I have extended max rows to 7.
If some guys complain, that the planner behaves ridiculous slow I will forward all emails to you.
rockwoofstone
solitud Thanks! Obviously, if its a problem, I suspect I'm an edge case, so switch it back, but I appreciate the change in the meantime.

Thanks again.
solitud
rockwoofstone wrote:
solitud Thanks! Obviously, if its a problem, I suspect I'm an edge case, so switch it back, but I appreciate the change in the meantime.

Thanks again.

It was not ment to seriously wink
rockwoofstone
Hehe! d'oh!
solitud
magisterludi wrote:
If feature requests are possible, I have something I have been wanting for a while.

I would like to use one of my racks to search for other racks. That is, I would like to be presented with racks that contain the same or similar modules to mine.

That way I could see how others arranges similar sets of modules and also what others that have similar setups like me have that I don't.

That would be amazing.


update
Similar Racks of Others
You think your rack is pretty boutique and unique? Maybe there exists an abandoned twin somewhere in the world of modulars. Find out with the new function "Similar Racks of Others"! You can find the link in Rack View or the Command Center (*).
Big thanks go to Sven Lange who developed the search algorithm.
Does this make the Rack tagging idea obsolete?
reppiks
solitud wrote:

Similar Racks of Others
Does this make the Rack tagging idea obsolete?


No, because I think the particular interest in comparing similarly-tagged racks is to look at and be inspired by how completely different racks can be used for similar musical goals
exper
Not to turn this into social media, but would it be possible to 'follow' people on modular grid? Or see a list of user names and add some to a 'favorites' list?

I'd like to see the systems of people I know.
jonah
solitud wrote:
update

Racks without boundaries
Now you can drag modules OUT of the rack. This should make it easier to rearrange modules in a full rack.

- you can drag out the modules in any direction
- if you drag a module out of the rack, space around the rack will be expanded, so you get enough parking space
- modules in the parking space are removed from the price and current calculation
- modules in the parking space are stored (but not their exact position, sorry)
- other users can not see your parked modules, they also do not show up in the screenshots
- a cat might appear

I hope this fixes the many problems user reported when they were shuffling their modules around. Tell me what you think.
Oh, thank you for adding this!

I was having so many difficulties re-arranging with modules jumping around. Then I accidentally randomized my case and got rid of the real version instead of the duplicate. oops

My case is full, but the site is great to try re-arrangements (now!). It's also very practical for saving or brainstorming patches. I was using a print out of a picture, but this is much better!

If I could make a request, to make it easier to use as a patch memory, I wonder if we could get a "line art" mode or like a wire frame view on 3d modeling programs. It could show the module name and the inputs and outputs or something along those lines. When printing the art uses more ink and it makes it harder to draw on top of too.

Maybe the inputs and outputs could be symbols or perhaps colored or filled with a dot/gradient pattern.

This is going beyond, but I'll throw it out there:
The Allen Strange book "Electronic Music, systems, techniques and controls" has some basic notation diagramed and I'd love to be able to add these tags to the modules on modular grid. Obviously, a lot of it is context sensitive. I could scan some of the pages if you like. Oscillators and LFOs are circles, filters are square, EGs and sequencers are rectangles, mods/distortions are diamonds.

With so many modules out there I have no idea what the majority of them do and I think sharing patches based on function would really help to more fluently communicate ideas.

It's also something I'd pay for a computer program to do because it's so tedious that I don't do it often! But it is very helpful for understanding as it's easier/faster to patch cool things than it is to think up how to do them. oops
BananaPlug
jonah wrote:
This is going beyond, but I'll throw it out there:
The Allen Strange book "Electronic Music, systems, techniques and controls" has some basic notation diagramed and I'd love to be able to add these tags to the modules on modular grid. Obviously, a lot of it is context sensitive. I could scan some of the pages if you like. Oscillators and LFOs are circles, filters are square, EGs and sequencers are rectangles, mods/distortions are diamonds.

Here you go. Use the flowchart symbols: Dia Diagram Editor
solitud
exper wrote:
Not to turn this into social media, but would it be possible to 'follow' people on modular grid? Or see a list of user names and add some to a 'favorites' list?

I'd like to see the systems of people I know.

Had this in mind, too. But I thought it's a bit over the top for a modular planner.
And if I start it, it WILL turn into social media: comment on modules, comment on racks, message friends, upload real system image, rolf bought a new module, heidi wants to sell a VCA ...
Not sure if I want to go that path or if the users will accept it. There is a lot of criticism for such functions for a reason...
solitud
jonah wrote:
Oh, thank you for adding this!

I was having so many difficulties re-arranging with modules jumping around. Then I accidentally randomized my case and got rid of the real version instead of the duplicate. oops

My case is full, but the site is great to try re-arrangements (now!). It's also very practical for saving or brainstorming patches. I was using a print out of a picture, but this is much better!

Glad that it works better now.

jonah wrote:

If I could make a request, to make it easier to use as a patch memory, I wonder if we could get a "line art" mode or like a wire frame view on 3d modeling programs. It could show the module name and the inputs and outputs or something along those lines. When printing the art uses more ink and it makes it harder to draw on top of too.

Maybe the inputs and outputs could be symbols or perhaps colored or filled with a dot/gradient pattern.

This is going beyond, but I'll throw it out there:
The Allen Strange book "Electronic Music, systems, techniques and controls" has some basic notation diagramed and I'd love to be able to add these tags to the modules on modular grid. Obviously, a lot of it is context sensitive. I could scan some of the pages if you like. Oscillators and LFOs are circles, filters are square, EGs and sequencers are rectangles, mods/distortions are diamonds.

With so many modules out there I have no idea what the majority of them do and I think sharing patches based on function would really help to more fluently communicate ideas.

It's also something I'd pay for a computer program to do because it's so tedious that I don't do it often! But it is very helpful for understanding as it's easier/faster to patch cool things than it is to think up how to do them. oops

I think this is special interest and not very easy to do, so unfortunately it will not happen very soon. To be honest I am not complete sure what this is about and if people will use it.
BananaPlug posted this strange program. Does this do what you have in mind?
exper
Haha. When you put it that way...

I guess you could tightly limit those functions.
solitud
BTW. I spend the afternoon to optimize the Cache Behaviour and Resizing of the Rack Thumbs. Browsing through the Command Centers and Similar Racks should be way faster now.
Not a spectacular feature, but you know, improving functions ...
magisterludi
solitud wrote:
magisterludi wrote:


update
Similar Racks of Others
You think your rack is pretty boutique and unique? Maybe there exists an abandoned twin somewhere in the world of modulars. Find out with the new function "Similar Racks of Others"! You can find the link in Rack View or the Command Center (*).
Big thanks go to Sven Lange who developed the search algorithm.
Does this make the Rack tagging idea obsolete?


Yay, nice! I don't think this makes tagging obsolete. Similarity is about what modules are in the rack, tagging is more what the modules are used for.
solitud
solitud wrote:

I thought about the option to tag racks like "drone, effects, small system, ..." etc. then you can show all "drone" systems. How about that?

Note to myself: don't request features yourself and then try to crawfish out.
solitud
update
Modular Activity
What do people do on the Modulargrid? The stream of activities on the homepage shows it in realtime.
It's useful to see which racks are currently under construction, if modules were uploaded or changed. It can also be used as a basic chat.
Modular Activity is the first approach to experiment with some social media elements.
What do you think, is it going in the right direction or is this absolute unwanted?
lessavyfav
What about, rather then comments racks could have patch notes. Like a recipe card, it could have a title Like "bongo" and then have "modules used" tags, a field for patch notes and settings, and a place to bet sound cloud or you tube example(s). User could could see/search patch recipes based on modules they have (or possibly even more interesting recipes where they have all but 1 or the requires modules) you could also see who's system is capable of concocting the most recipes. It could be mode focused then typical commenting.
exper
lessavyfav wrote:
What about, rather then comments racks could have patch notes. Like a recipe card, it could have a title Like "bongo" and then have "modules used" tags, a field for patch notes and settings, and a place to bet sound cloud or you tube example(s). User could could see/search patch recipes based on modules they have (or possibly even more interesting recipes where they have all but 1 or the requires modules) you could also see who's system is capable of concocting the most recipes. It could be mode focused then typical commenting.



Sounds great. I welcome some more interaction. Something like notes for your system, with people's ability to comment on it and follow your progress would be great.
sonicwarrior
Shouldn't this thread be in 'Modular Synth General'?

How can I delete a module I accidentally submitted to the wrong format?
It's this one:
http://modulargrid.net/d/bridechamber-cgs-65-tube-vca

I wanted to upload it to the MOTM format and made the noobish mistake to upload it to MU instead. oops
[I'm used to the RackPlanner library]
solitud
sonicwarrior wrote:
Shouldn't this thread be in 'Modular Synth General'?

Modulargrid started as Eurorack Planner. When the other systems came in nobody moved the thread. Now it sits here smile

sonicwarrior wrote:

How can I delete a module I accidentally submitted to the wrong format?
It's this one:
http://modulargrid.net/d/bridechamber-cgs-65-tube-vca

I wanted to upload it to the MOTM format and made the noobish mistake to upload it to MU instead. oops
[I'm used to the RackPlanner library]

In the top navigation click on "Me:sonicwarrior". There should be a list of all the modules you have uploaded and beside the modules there should be a "delete" button.
solitud
lessavyfav wrote:
What about, rather then comments racks could have patch notes. Like a recipe card, it could have a title Like "bongo" and then have "modules used" tags, a field for patch notes and settings, and a place to bet sound cloud or you tube example(s). User could could see/search patch recipes based on modules they have (or possibly even more interesting recipes where they have all but 1 or the requires modules) you could also see who's system is capable of concocting the most recipes. It could be mode focused then typical commenting.

Sounds pretty cool. It would be a lot of work to do but something like this could be the next advancing steps for modulargrid.

exper wrote:

Sounds great. I welcome some more interaction. Something like notes for your system, with people's ability to comment on it and follow your progress would be great.

Yeah, first thing was to do a planner. I have the feeling it works good enough now, at least people do not complain so often anymore wink
Will definitely go in to interaction direction. I am not sure about details but who knows. The modulargrid is now 6 month old, look how it has expanded in this period.
sempervirent
I keep wanting to leave comments on other people's systems, even though the functionality isn't there yet! So it seems like a natural extension.

By its nature, Modular Grid is already a bit social since each system has a unique URL that can be shared. This is probably one reason of its success, because systems created on modularplanner.co.uk or any of the desktop-based planners could only be seen by others if their creator posted a screenshot. I agree that it will get out of control with irrelevant comments... no blogger or news website has really figured out how to tame that problem yet... but such is the nature of an open platform.

Also, I keep seeing this in my Command Center... clicking "Update Screenshot Preview" doesn't change things. Sometimes the system does appear eventually but the screenshot is at normal size (the size shown on a single system page) and overlaps with the smaller system images:

solitud
sempervirent wrote:
I keep wanting to leave comments on other people's systems, even though the functionality isn't there yet! So it seems like a natural extension.

By its nature, Modular Grid is already a bit social since each system has a unique URL that can be shared. This is probably one reason of its success, because systems created on modularplanner.co.uk or any of the desktop-based planners could only be seen by others if their creator posted a screenshot. I agree that it will get out of control with irrelevant comments... no blogger or news website has really figured out how to tame that problem yet... but such is the nature of an open platform.

I have no fear that people post to much noise, users are remarkable grown-up on ModularGrid. It's more the opposite. My doubts go into the direction that the site will get bloated with functions nobody uses. The Microsoft Word of Modular planners.
sempervirent wrote:

Also, I keep seeing this in my Command Center... clicking "Update Screenshot Preview" doesn't change things. Sometimes the system does appear eventually but the screenshot is at normal size (the size shown on a single system page) and overlaps with the smaller system images:


The screwdriver image you posted will be displayed if there is no screenshot available and a new screenshot could not be generated, because the system is screwed.
The screenshot server crashed last week and I didn't noticed. It should work now again.
The screwdriver also appears eventually when people link their racks in forums, but delete their rack afterwards.
solitud
double post
owensands
BUG :: Dupe rack :: Edit Rack Name :: Challenged with login. Doesnt work.
solitud
owensands wrote:
BUG :: Dupe rack :: Edit Rack Name :: Challenged with login. Doesnt work.

Mhh, seems to work here. Do you still have issues? Which Browser?
werock
Looks like a lot of the Metalbox images have gone a bit weird...
solitud
werock wrote:
Looks like a lot of the Metalbox images have gone a bit weird...

Thanks for reporting, I fixed it.
jnlkrt
how about adding a function which copies the rack of another member to a new own rack?
solitud
jnlkrt wrote:
how about adding a function which copies the rack of another member to a new own rack?

Could be done. I think about it.
ddoyen
Was thinking it could be rad to have a lock option of some type for when you use it on your phone..easy to knock things out of whack when scrolling past the rack. Or should I just wait until I am on my computer to play with it like a normal person?
werock
solitud wrote:
werock wrote:
Looks like a lot of the Metalbox images have gone a bit weird...

Thanks for reporting, I fixed it.


Thanks!
rockwoofstone
Hi solitud - any chance of bumping the max up to 8 rows now? help (Ive been buying a lot of toys recently!) Never maintain cash savings again
Samuron
What about a "common workspace", where you could put modules of different formats?

Many of us use Modular Grid for patch notation. Suppose, instead of "Frac" or "MU", you could choose "Patch"?

You could grab just the modules used, and then screenshot it.
solitud
jnlkrt wrote:
how about adding a function which copies the rack of another member to a new own rack?

update
Copy any Rack
Everyone can copy any public Rack. Show some fellow an alternative for his module selection? Copy his Rack, exchange modules, post him the URL or screenshot.

rockwoofstone wrote:
Hi solitud - any chance of bumping the max up to 8 rows now?


update
The Number of Perfection
8 is the number of perfection. I extended the maximal rows to 8. And now this limit stays FOREVER!

update
Merchants Links
On the module detail pages you can see a list of the well known merchants who probably sell the shown module. I think this is useful for some people and I hope you don't see it as a kind of cheesy advertising only.
I don't get any money for it at this point, but the merchants will see how many people click on their links. And if many do they maybe will support the existence of Modulargrid in the future.
solitud
ddoyen wrote:
Was thinking it could be rad to have a lock option of some type for when you use it on your phone..easy to knock things out of whack when scrolling past the rack. Or should I just wait until I am on my computer to play with it like a normal person?

Use it on your computer or tablet. The Phone mode is really the last ressort when you urgently have to add a VCA on the road thumbs up

Samuron wrote:
What about a "common workspace", where you could put modules of different formats?

Many of us use Modular Grid for patch notation. Suppose, instead of "Frac" or "MU", you could choose "Patch"?

You could grab just the modules used, and then screenshot it.

Not exactly sure what you mean.
Modulargrid is not capable of displaying multi formats on one page. All modules share the same height but differ in width. What is your intention? A kind of collaborative patching?
jnlkrt
solitud wrote:
jnlkrt wrote:
how about adding a function which copies the rack of another member to a new own rack?

update
Copy any Rack
Everyone can copy any public Rack. Show some fellow an alternative for his module selection? Copy his Rack, exchange modules, post him the URL or screenshot.


coooool. that was quick. thumbs up
rockwoofstone
solitud wrote:
The Number of Perfection
8 is the number of perfection. I extended the maximal rows to 8. And now this limit stays FOREVER!

Marvellous - thanks! headbang
Samuron
solitud wrote:
Samuron wrote:
What about a "common workspace", where you could put modules of different formats?

Many of us use Modular Grid for patch notation. Suppose, instead of "Frac" or "MU", you could choose "Patch"?

You could display just the modules used, and then screenshot it.

Not exactly sure what you mean.
Modulargrid is not capable of displaying multi formats on one page. All modules share the same height but differ in width.

OK; I just thought I'd ask.

solitud wrote:
What is your intention? A kind of collaborative patching?

Yes. I have a Frac system, a Euro one, and an MU setup, and I patch them all together.

If they could all be displayed on one page, you could pick just the modules involved in the patch, take a screenshot, and draw the connections in a paint program. That would take a lot less space than using a graphic of your whole system every time.

I started creating a Visio library of modules so I could just grab what I wanted, and then it occurred to me to ask if Modular Grid could be made to do it.

Regardless, I'm not complaining; MG does a lot, and I love using it. grin
solitud
update

ModularGrid Discussions
ModularGrid Discussions lets users post comments on Racks and Modules. Share your opinion and thoughts with others on how you use your stuff.

- New posts are listed on the homepage
- If someone replies to your post you will receive an email.
- You can observe Racks and Modules for new posts.

ModularGrid Discussions is the next step in providing more social media like functionality for user interaction. Think about it as a kind of Modular Twitter wink
For sure this is not perfect but I am excited to hear what you think!
exper
Very cool. Can't wait to try it!
wbelote
Solitud -
Great work and big thanks!
solitud
update

Sketch a Patch
... a Paintbox for your Rack to document your patches.

This feature was requested many times and although I didn't want to do it in the first place I decided to follow a minimalistic approach where you can simply draw cables on the screenshots.
You can edit your drawings but if you edit the rack the cables will mismatch.
So no "cable follows module" magic involved.

Therefore you can link to the patches.

What do you think?

exper
Hmm. On my ipad, nothing happens. If I go to sketch a patch, I get a blank screen. Is this a flash feature?
solitud
exper wrote:
Hmm. On my ipad, nothing happens. If I go to sketch a patch, I get a blank screen. Is this a flash feature?

Mhh. It should work on iPad. Perhaps it needs some time to load/generate the Screenshot... there is no loading spinner yet.
Can you try it again?
New feature, new bugs, it never stops ...
square_wave
Works here on ipad.

Great feature! applause
exper


This is what get...
solitud
exper wrote:

This is what get...

I have implemented a better loading handler now. A spinner is shown on image load. If something is not working right, a message should appear.
You have deleted the patch so I couldn't check if there was any problem.
Perhaps you could check it out again, sorry...
It could be your wlan/mobile connection, but who knows. Computers.
thebrotherspus
I'm having the same problem as exper with my ipad as well.
Nevertheless, it looks like a terrific feature. Thanks for all your hard work!!!
solitud
thebrotherspus wrote:
I'm having the same problem as exper with my ipad as well.
Nevertheless, it looks like a terrific feature. Thanks for all your hard work!!!

I really want to fix it, but I can not re-produce the error. Maybe a problem on older (or newer) iOS versions? I am running the feature successful on an iPad2 with iOS 6.0.1.
Would be nice if you could report your iOS versions.
exper
I have the latest iPad with 6.1.3...
solitud
exper wrote:
I have the latest iPad with 6.1.3...

Strange. I have done some additional adjustments and tested your patch http://modulargrid.net/e/patches/view/41 on an iOS Simulator with 6.1 without issues. The last thing in my mind is a caching issue. Do you see the spinner image?
AudioFetish
Added CP88 from Asol to the data base. Thanks for such an amazing tool
Madchiller
My iPad 3 running 6.1 seems to be working ok. It's a little slow, but it's working! What a great feature! Thanks!
Annwn
More of an aesthetic suggestion here and likely to sound retarded but is it possible to remove the shelves on the Shelf theme?

I like the timber case but the shelves between rows does strange things to my brain.

Thanks for creating and maintaining this top-class procrastination tool!
solitud
Madchiller wrote:
My iPad 3 running 6.1 seems to be working ok. It's a little slow, but it's working! What a great feature! Thanks!

It may be possible to improve the rendering speed. I like to launch the features early to see if you guys like it and that it is worth to put in the additional efforts for streamlining.
There is already an iPad optimization regarding the size of the UI: cables and jacks are much larger so its possible to "touch" them with clunky fingers smile

Annwn wrote:
More of an aesthetic suggestion here and likely to sound retarded but is it possible to remove the shelves on the Shelf theme?

I always wanted to add more theme options, but I need good photos preferable from the case manufacturers. I contacted some of them, but everyone seems to be very busy these days...
jnlkrt
exper wrote:
I have the latest iPad with 6.1.3...


indeed strange, copied your rack and it works fine with 6.1.3..
loopt
Thanks solitud! The patching facility is great. applause

A nice addition would be the highlighting of stacked connections. Maybe with multiple circles on the jacks (one for each additional stacked jack)? Or a simple digit showing the number of stacked cables?
It would help clarifying complex patches.
thebrotherspus
solitud wrote:
thebrotherspus wrote:
I'm having the same problem as exper with my ipad as well.
Nevertheless, it looks like a terrific feature. Thanks for all your hard work!!!

I really want to fix it, but I can not re-produce the error. Maybe a problem on older (or newer) iOS versions? I am running the feature successful on an iPad2 with iOS 6.0.1.
Would be nice if you could report your iOS versions.


Hmmm, weird. I'm using 6.0.1 as well but can't get it to work.
Oh well, I'll just use my computer when I want to use the patching feature.
solitud
loopt wrote:
Thanks solitud! The patching facility is great. applause

A nice addition would be the highlighting of stacked connections. Maybe with multiple circles on the jacks (one for each additional stacked jack)? Or a simple digit showing the number of stacked cables?
It would help clarifying complex patches.

This is already in. Hover on a cable and the jacks should turn red.
solitud
update
Patches refinements
- The latest Patches are shown on the homepage
- There is a prev/next navigator in Patch view
- The "Sketch a Patch" DropDown Menu lists now all of your patches grouped by the Racks.
Still no clue whats going wrong on some peoples iPads, but working on it meh
loopt
solitud wrote:
loopt wrote:
Thanks solitud! The patching facility is great. applause

A nice addition would be the highlighting of stacked connections. Maybe with multiple circles on the jacks (one for each additional stacked jack)? Or a simple digit showing the number of stacked cables?
It would help clarifying complex patches.

This is already in. Hover on a cable and the jacks should turn red.

Sorry, I guess I didn't explain it well enough.

I tend to use a lot of TipTop Stackcables to mult outputs to several inputs and I'd love to see these stacks somehow depicted in the patch. The red circles easily get hidden with stacked plugs.
Kingnimrod
Where is the "sketch a patch" feature? I can see the latest patches, but not seeing the menu option anywhere to get to it. Tried iPad, Safari, Chrome and Firefox.z
solitud
loopt wrote:

Sorry, I guess I didn't explain it well enough.

I tend to use a lot of TipTop Stackcables to mult outputs to several inputs and I'd love to see these stacks somehow depicted in the patch. The red circles easily get hidden with stacked plugs.

Ah, ok, I understand. This would be a rather big change, so it's not top on the list. First I try to make the existing functions bugfree as possible.

Kingnimrod wrote:
Where is the "sketch a patch" feature? I can see the latest patches, but not seeing the menu option anywhere to get to it. Tried iPad, Safari, Chrome and Firefox.z

This feature is only available for fully registered users, not for the anonymous ones. I made this decision because of a spam attack on modulargrid lately. A spammer created nearly 1000 racks with the name "Jenna Jameson naked". confused
Registered users can find "Sketch a Patch" as a drop down list under "My modular".
loopt
solitud wrote:

Ah, ok, I understand. This would be a rather big change, so it's not top on the list. First I try to make the existing functions bugfree as possible.

Yep, do that.
Thanks again for your work!
Adam-V
Just had my first go at this the other day, it's rather good.

Is there any way to show DIY modules?

I too would keen to see a shelf-less shelf version.

Cheers,
Adam-V
exper
Gah. I've been away for the weekend, so I haven't been able to test this on my laptop. Unfortunately, I'm also have troubles with the new feature on that as well. Safari 5.1.8

When I go to make a patch, the system pic does show up, but after 1-2 cables, the next one created can't be moved. It also then locks the previous cables.

Also, still not working on my ipad. Background pic never shows up...
hamildad
Sketch a patch is a bit too buggy on iPad. I understand its a v new feature, when it works, it'll be amazingly useful.

I know nothing, but if you contracted a app developer to do a ipad native app of modular grid. I'd give you the $10 for it right now. You already have the database and the functionality. it'd be the coding for IOS that'd need the expertise.

if you could save patches in a library or export them as .pdf, you'd be a hero.

imagine getting an amazing patch on your modular and quickly just noting it down in Modulargrid app, and saving it with metadata/ publishing it to your modulargrid web account. You could even search for patches created using the modules that you own but created by other people.

I appreciate I am just thinking aloud here, but if you look at video games, people who make cool flash games, always get their product copied by an app developer, who charges for it and makes a fortune.

I'd just rather give my money to modular grid, and not a clone developer.

* EDIT* a kickstarter would be a good way of getting development funding with no risk to investors.
jnlkrt
good idea actually! i could connect solitud with a former colleague of mine, who codes for iOS and is living in berlin.

@solitud: interested?
Nantonos
Adam-V wrote:

Is there any way to show DIY modules?


Yes, you just need an image of the front panel. You can also make your DIY modules private, if you want.
solitud
Sorry guys,
Sketch a patch is seriously flawed in Safari and Mobile Safari.

I think this time I have rushed things too much.
I should have tested it more, and kind of regret it that I launched it too early.

A native iOS App won't make things easier. Even if someone else does it there has to be a lot of work in defining interfaces, exchange protocols and stuff.

Just give me some time to get it right with the HTML5 approach. I still think this is the right way to do it.

I hope to fix the most urgent problems this week. In the meantime:
If you can, use Google Chrome, this works best for now.

BTW.
I think the issues have something to do with the sizes of the racks. I have uploaded a dirty workaround which crops bigger racks.
So if some of you guys having problems could try it once again? I hope this should fix the "white screen, nothing is displayed" bug, which, if true, would lead me in the right direction...
exper
Yes, it did show up now, cropping the bottom row of my system. The cables seem too large for jack sizes though (on ipad) so they often cover more than 1 jack. It's also very slow, grabbing a cable takes a whole to highlight, and stutters and has trouble dropping where you want it.

Still, its a very great feature that will be very, very useful.
Thanks!
Adam-V
Nantonos wrote:
Adam-V wrote:

Is there any way to show DIY modules?


Yes, you just need an image of the front panel. You can also make your DIY modules private, if you want.


Brilliant. Thanks.

Cheers,
Adam-V
lessavyfav
Someone suggested letting modules have alt panels in built to their definitions rather then 2 instances of the same module- with all those greyscale panels there is suddenly a ton of redundancy. Is this possible in the schema? It would make sense...
exper
Yeah, I'd like that as well. There's two different Maths, let alone the alternate panel one. There's also the inverted Planar duplicate. Two different Rene modules with white or black panels...

This probably messes with the module charts as well.
solitud
lessavyfav wrote:
Someone suggested letting modules have alt panels in built to their definitions rather then 2 instances of the same module- with all those greyscale panels there is suddenly a ton of redundancy. Is this possible in the schema? It would make sense...


Unfortunately I never had in mind that people will sell alternative panels so it's not possible to combine modules.

exper wrote:
Yeah, I'd like that as well. There's two different Maths, let alone the alternate panel one. There's also the inverted Planar duplicate. Two different Rene modules with white or black panels...

This probably messes with the module charts as well.


This is true. It's really not optimal like it is, but it would be hard to refactor. And there will be new logical problems.
- Alternate panels sometimes come from different manufacturers. The database must be aware of this with all the relations and new table fields (URL, description, how to handle prices).
- If you add them to a rack you have to choose which panel to use. This will complicate the "one-click" module add function.
- Alternate panels may differ in HP.
- Some people will combine two modules of different revisions, which perhaps have slightly different specs. This must be editabe/undoable.

Until now I thought the way it is is the best of all worse alternatives. At least it is simple...
Vsyevolod
solitud wrote:
A spammer created nearly 1000 racks with the name "Jenna Jameson naked".


I dunno, sounds like a valid rack to me. And there are enough for 1000 of us, what's not to love?

Stephen




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solitud
Vsyevolod wrote:
solitud wrote:
A spammer created nearly 1000 racks with the name "Jenna Jameson naked".


I dunno, sounds like a valid rack to me. And there are enough for 1000 of us, what's not to love?

Stephen
.

They posted a rack discussion URL hihi. When you clicked on the link you had to install a "Plugin" to see Jenna naked.
Because I know you guys would do anything to see this I decided to remove the links. Just for your protection. Boba Fett
Kingnimrod
Confirmed my account and have been playing with sketch a patch for a couple of days - excellent feature!

I'm using it with not much trouble on Safari. A little buggy but not too bad.

One thing that I think would help all users is to change the patch cable colors. Yellow stands out fine, but black and grey get lost (black especially over the black Makenoise modules). I would suggest bright blue and red as alternative colors.

thanks for the efforts!
exper
+1

Better colors, perhaps matching the stackcables they're modeled after. (I know there's a black Stackcables, but its the longest one and if programmed right, you may not need to use it here. (You could also add green as it will be the newest, shorter one. )
solitud
I agree that the cable colors are not the best choice, but they are there for a reason.
I don't know if anyone noticed: they translate to the exact cable length of the Doepfer cables (I measured it).
So if you want to transform a patch to your modular and Sketch a Patch shows a grey cable you should grab a grey one because the black one will be too short wink
exper
See now, that's deep and well thought, however, you made them look like stackcables! Green-Red-Yellow-Blue-Black!

I'd also venture that not that many people use doepfer cables anyway. Ad Infinitum and Stackcables have taken over, haven't they?
solitud
exper wrote:
See now, that's deep and well thought, however, you made them look like stackcables! Green-Red-Yellow-Blue-Black!

I'd also venture that not that many people use doepfer cables anyway. Ad Infinitum and Stackcables have taken over, haven't they?

So thats a feature request!
Switch Cable Mode between Doepfer, Stackcables and Ad Infinitum.
Honestly I don't know much about Stackcable. I know you can stack them, but is this a brand or standard? Never heard about the Ad Infinitum, either. Time to leave my developer cave.
exper
Haha, I thought that was the intention, as your cables look like stackcables. Ad Infinitum are an american company, but they offer the best prices really. Good quality as well. Those come in any color/size so there's no standard. Stackcables however come in 4 specific sizes/colors.

http://www.analoguehaven.com/tiptopaudio/stackcable/
solitud
exper wrote:
Haha, I thought that was the intention, as your cables look like stackcables. Ad Infinitum are an american company, but they offer the best prices really. Good quality as well. Those come in any color/size so there's no standard. Stackcables however come in 4 specific sizes/colors.

The cable design was more a coincidence. It's a circle with a line. A Stackcable as I know now.
Thanks for the link. I think I will include the Doepfer/Stackable switch.
exper
Really, you had never seen a stackcable before? That's the first thing I though when I saw the new feature. Well anyway, that's a really cool function you've added.

I'm swamped so I haven't tried to make patches yet, but I know it will be a fun tool. Is there a field to notate knobs or patch notes? That would help with recalling patches...
solitud
exper wrote:
Really, you had never seen a stackcable before? That's the first thing I though when I saw the new feature. Well anyway, that's a really cool function you've added.

I'm swamped so I haven't tried to make patches yet, but I know it will be a fun tool. Is there a field to notate knobs or patch notes? That would help with recalling patches...

All I hear is: feature request : add field for patch notes. Where is the coding monkey emoticon when you need it wink

No, never seen a Stackcable in the real world. But I like to. I have a lot connection issues with the Doepfer cables I own on non-Doepfer modules. Are those more "compatible"?
Kingnimrod
Another feature request: screenshot of patch
Rayek
I just wanna say, I'm obsessed with modulargrid. It is super useful, but also allows me to go crazy with ideas. I've "planned" so far into the future that by the time I get enough cash to buy all the modules, half of them will be out of production! Regardless of what that actually means for me as a consumer (I'm crazy), good work! thumbs up
solitud
update

Cable Color Schemes
In Patch View you can choose if you want your Cablecolors following the Doepfer or Stackable scheme.

- While dragging cables the Cable Shadows are disabled. This should improve rendering performance a lot.
- The Cable locking bug on Safari Desktop should (hopefully) be fixed.
- A bug is fixed which prevented switching of patches on iOS devices

... and there is a new Spaghetti option for your entertainment.
solitud
update

Patch Discussions
Use this text field for your Patch notes. Others can comment, too.

further enhancement:
Patch Options can now be saved.
exper
Awesome thanks! I'll give it a try.
filmersam
Errors on Modular Grid - 'An internal error has occurred'.

Whats all this about then?
solitud
filmersam wrote:
Errors on Modular Grid - 'An internal error has occurred'.

Whats all this about then?

Can you be more specific what you did? And send me the URL of the page where the error happens. Everything looks o.k. on first view here....
stk
Hi solitud,
I was playing with the patch feature on the weekend, and the "save patch" feature was randomly failing. By which I mean, I'd patch a few cables and suddenly the save button would become unresponsive.

Edit: this patch - http://modulargrid.net/e/patches/view/341

Windows 7, Chrome.

cheers
solitud
stk wrote:
Hi solitud,
I was playing with the patch feature on the weekend, and the "save patch" feature was randomly failing. By which I mean, I'd patch a few cables and suddenly the save button would become unresponsive.

Edit: this patch - http://modulargrid.net/e/patches/view/341

Windows 7, Chrome.

cheers

Thanks for reporting. Can you remember if the button text changed to "Saving..." and then nothing happend, or was it completely unresponsive, meaning you couldn't even click on it?
stk
From memory it became completely unclickable, with no text change.

I will test again when I have a spare moment tomorrow.
solitud
update

Enclave Rack Theme
Added a new Rack theme based on their Flight Series.
Thanks to Oliver Dodd from Enclave for the exellent Photoshop work!

DomMorley
Hey solitud - first of all, we're not worthy for your work on this planner. It's amazing.

Just wondering how easy it would be to combine the MOTM and MU formats. It seems a lot of 5U users have both formats in the same case, so it would make sense to be able to arrange them together on the planner.

Does the slightly different sizes of the modules (5MU is roughly 6MOTM etc) make this impossible?

Thanks again though - truly great work. thumbs up
rockthomas
DomMorley wrote:

Just wondering how easy it would be to combine the MOTM and MU formats.


I was just wondering the same thing.
solitud
DomMorley wrote:
Hey solitud - first of all, we're not worthy for your work on this planner. It's amazing.

Thanks! You people make it what it is!
DomMorley wrote:

Just wondering how easy it would be to combine the MOTM and MU formats. It seems a lot of 5U users have both formats in the same case, so it would make sense to be able to arrange them together on the planner.

Does the slightly different sizes of the modules (5MU is roughly 6MOTM etc) make this impossible?

That is exactly the problem. It has to do with the different snapping position of the modules in the planner and the collision detection.
Also the way the modules are categorized in the DB has to be changed (MU AND MOTM = 5U ?). Still people should be able to differentiate between MU and MOTM.
It is not impossible but not easy either.
I think it will make sense to combine the formats, so I put the request on the list.
DomMorley
solitud wrote:
MU AND MOTM = 5U?
Still people should be able to differentiate between MU and MOTM.


Could a 5U option be a separate one that has access to MU & MOTM modules? If that makes it easier for you then it would also mean people could keep things separate if they desire.

I've recently started lurking in the 5U area having come from a lot of lurking in Euro, and noticed people aren't using your planner anywhere near as much over there. My theory is that it's the separation of the formats when most people have some combination in their case.


solitud wrote:

I think it will make sense to combine the formats, so I put the request on the list.


Again, we're not worthy
sonicwarrior
DomMorley wrote:
My theory is that it's the separation of the formats when most people have some combination in their case.


I have a different theory: MOTM or MU based systems are easier to plan because they don't have atomicly spaced modules. Most modules are 1 or 2 units in width so it's easy to just set them in and play around.
At least that's what I did.

Btw.: Can others edit my racks? I tried that on someone else's rack and was able to move a module which confused me a bit (moved it back to the original place so I'm not sure if that would have been saved).
solitud
DomMorley wrote:

I've recently started lurking in the 5U area having come from a lot of lurking in Euro, and noticed people aren't using your planner anywhere near as much over there. My theory is that it's the separation of the formats when most people have some combination in their case.

sonicwarrior wrote:

I have a different theory: MOTM or MU based systems are easier to plan because they don't have atomicly spaced modules. Most modules are 1 or 2 units in width so it's easy to just set them in and play around.
At least that's what I did.

Both theories are valid. I can add another one. Look here on Muffs. The Eurorack Forum has nearly 6 times more posts than the other formats, so it's a simple thing of popularity.
Also there are lot more Eurorack modules which makes a planner more necessary and the Eurorack crowd tends to experiment with the changing of their setups a lot.

sonicwarrior wrote:

Btw.: Can others edit my racks? I tried that on someone else's rack and was able to move a module which confused me a bit (moved it back to the original place so I'm not sure if that would have been saved).

I am pretty sure that you can not edit other peoples rack. It may be possible to move the modules but they should snap back to their original position. And of course, nothing will be saved.
jnlkrt
hey solitud, how about adding a simple rack scheme, just couple px wide black border, maybe with rounded edges?
Mefistophelees
I was looking at the compare racks feature and I found a strange thing. It reported a rack that had 24 similar modules but I could only count a few.

I thought this was a bug at first but on closer inspection it turned out they had about 20 1U bind panels!

I think it would produce better results if it didn't count modules like bind panels or multiples.
solitud
jnlkrt wrote:
hey solitud, how about adding a simple rack scheme, just couple px wide black border, maybe with rounded edges?

Mhh, I prefer more the photorealistic look of real existing racks. For what is this for? Save space?

Mefistophelees wrote:
I was looking at the compare racks feature and I found a strange thing. It reported a rack that had 24 similar modules but I could only count a few.

I thought this was a bug at first but on closer inspection it turned out they had about 20 1U bind panels!

I think it would produce better results if it didn't count modules like bind panels or multiples.

Yeah, this is a known issue I am also not happy with. The problem with improving the filter/algorithm is always performance.
At this time you people added 220.000 Modules to 13.500 racks. The algorithm has to look through all these racks and compare the modules to find similar racks. Every additional condition will make this task even harder.
So at the moment it works not perfectly accurat but at least fast enough, and this is higher on my priority list.
jnlkrt
solitud wrote:
jnlkrt wrote:
hey solitud, how about adding a simple rack scheme, just couple px wide black border, maybe with rounded edges?

Mhh, I prefer more the photorealistic look of real existing racks. For what is this for? Save space?


i print patches and prefer a straight-forward, uncluttered layout for that. and i do not like the photorealistic look. wink

nothing important obviously. thumbs up
trotz
Hi,

I have a problem integrating this module into my rack since the width reported seems to be wrong (57hp).

My micromac is certainly 56hp and it is quite possible that this mistake is due to 57hp being the size of an earlier prototype.

I could only find this info relating to the size of 56hp: (french) http://www.audiokeys.net/forum/showthread.php/31267-Micromac-de-Ken-Ma cBeth/page3

Even a well know Berlin dealer d'oh! quotes a wrong size of 60hp!!!

Is there a possible fix? I am about to finish the replica of my Euro Modular and this is the last bit in order to finish my virtual setup. http://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/35181

Best Regards!


Pere
solitud
trotz wrote:

I have a problem integrating this module into my rack since the width reported seems to be wrong (57hp).

I have seen you have helped yourself by uploading a new image. I am not sure what is the right HP. Even Mr MacBeth lists it with 57HP on his website and by viewing your rack this could be true, because the Micromac seems to be cropped in your rack. So until other people experience the same problems I have marked your uploaded Micromac as "private" module.
trotz
Thanks for your answer.

This will not be difficult to check, since I already have all the modules in my case and they fit. Smash! It could be that another module in the same row has the wrong size, but I find this unlikely.

As soon as I find the time I will send you a more detailed picture with the proper measurements so that you can confirm the size I have reported.

Here you can see a picture I took early this week of the same euro in my studio:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedrotrotz/8951464752/

As you can see, there are no overlapping modules Mr. Green


Best Regards,

Pere
trotz
Now that you mention it, it is curious that the image I uploaded got cropped. There must be some specifications I didn't read about before uploading..

This is the picture I uploaded (with no cropping)...



(sorry for the big size)


Best Regards,


Pere
Mefistophelees
trotz wrote:
Thanks for your answer.

It could be that another module in the same row has the wrong size, but I find this unlikely.


It's not as unlikely as you might think. Your case is probably slightly bigger than you think and they've managed to fit in.
I have a row which should not fit together but does because of some modules being slightly the wrong size.

Quote:
Here you can see a picture I took early this week of the same euro in my studio:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedrotrotz/8951464752/


Flickr lists that as private for me.
nearly ghost
I noticed antimatter brain seed is not on there
John Noble
Mefistophelees wrote:
trotz wrote:
Thanks for your answer.

It could be that another module in the same row has the wrong size, but I find this unlikely.


It's not as unlikely as you might think. Your case is probably slightly bigger than you think and they've managed to fit in.
I have a row which should not fit together but does because of some modules being slightly the wrong size.


Agreed. I crammed 97hp into my 96hp case, and I bet Ken Macbeth knows how wide his modules are. smile

Anyhoo, many thanks for the vastly improved Micromac R photo--the one I hacked out of the picture on the Macbeth web site for the database was pretty cruddy. applause
oscillateur
nearly ghost wrote:
I noticed antimatter brain seed is not on there


It is actually, and twice smile.
Just search for Brain Seed.

About the "similar racks" : I think the algorithm would be better if it only counter each different module once and not each instance of a module. Otherwise you get lots of hits from imaginary racks with 24 Dixies or things like that wink.
trotz
Mefistophelees wrote:


Quote:
Here you can see a picture I took early this week of the same euro in my studio:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/pedrotrotz/8951464752/


Flickr lists that as private for me.


Solved! (I think) oops
Mefistophelees
trotz wrote:


Quote:
Flickr lists that as private for me.


Solved! (I think) oops



Yup. Looks good.
All the best people have a Kraftzwerg and a Micromac in their system Mr. Green
Xend54
This website is absolutely perfect for a noob like me! applause
daverj
I took your picture, and using the Doepfer 4HP and the AFG I made an HP scale.

It looks like the Micromac may be is 57HP



There's a gap between the AFG and VM-1. But if you look at how the AFG aligns on it's left edge with the HP scale, if the AFG was slid to the right to fill that gap then it's left edge would line up with the scale better.
solitud
oscillateur wrote:
nearly ghost wrote:
I noticed antimatter brain seed is not on there


It is actually, and twice smile.
Just search for Brain Seed.

Added Antimatter Audio to the list of manufacturers and have flagged one Brain Seed as duplicate.
oscillateur wrote:

About the "similar racks" : I think the algorithm would be better if it only counter each different module once and not each instance of a module. Otherwise you get lots of hits from imaginary racks with 24 Dixies or things like that wink.

It's hard to get this one right. Some people would consider the amount of matching modules a factor. Also there is the problem with performance I wrote somewhere above.
oscillateur
Yeah, if performance is an issue then it's another problem.

Otherwise counting one match for each instance of module that is present in both systems would probably be the best (i.e. System A has one Dixie and System B has 24 Dixies : one match; System A has 3 Dixies and System B has 24 Dixies : 3 matches).

Anyway, excellent tool and thanks for all the great work...
maudibe
Hi Solitud... just thought I'd ask...any chance of 9 rows rather than the current 8?

Cheers,

Maudibe
Sabs
just want to say thanks for making this, it's fantastic! we're not worthy
oscillateur
Small feature request : is it possible to add a flag/enum in the modules definition to specify if it's a commercially available module (i.e. something you can buy) or a DIY thing.

And then allow that flag to be specified when looking at / searching for modules.

Thanks again for the great tool smile.
solitud
maudibe wrote:
Hi Solitud... just thought I'd ask...any chance of 9 rows rather than the current 8?

No, sorry, we have reached the number of perfection which is 8.
Sabs wrote:
just want to say thanks for making this, it's fantastic! we're not worthy

Thanks!
oscillateur wrote:
Small feature request : is it possible to add a flag/enum in the modules definition to specify if it's a commercially available module (i.e. something you can buy) or a DIY thing.

And then allow that flag to be specified when looking at / searching for modules.

I am aware of the problem that the module section looks very crowded by now. I like to support the DIY people but I understand that many people are not interested in this stuff and that it spoils their search results.
The DIY modules and panels ARE commercial available from the guys who made them.
So how do I implement the filter in a karma friendly but effective way?

1. Modules which are in production
Would exclude all the MK1 modules and out of business companies but not DIY
2. Modules you can buy from a merchant/reseller
Would exclude most of the DIY stuff but also product ranges from e.g. BugBrand
3. Modules you have to put together by yourself
Would exclude DIY stuff but not discontinued modules

Is the filtering necessary at all? And if yes what do you guys think how to do it? Ideally I want to implement just one checkbox.
jonne74
This might not be possible to do easily, but an indicator for modules that can't be placed next to a wall would be nice. You can plan all day, but some modules have a power cable going out sideways. These modules rely on the kindness of other manufacturers.
abstractjuz
My first time using this planner today - really impressed.

I've also updated all the relevant details for Abstract Data

Thanks - great work.

thumbs up
solitud
jonne74 wrote:
This might not be possible to do easily, but an indicator for modules that can't be placed next to a wall would be nice. You can plan all day, but some modules have a power cable going out sideways. These modules rely on the kindness of other manufacturers.

Aaarrgh. This will not make it in ModularGrid. Ask the manufacturers to fix their awkward power socket concepts zombie
abstractjuz wrote:
My first time using this planner today - really impressed.

I've also updated all the relevant details for Abstract Data

Thanks - great work.

thumbs up

Thanks!

update
Duplicate your patches
On user request: now you can duplicate your patches. Useful for making alternate patches without the need to rebuild the whole patch again.
mrcharles
OK... I must be missing something... I want to use the "draw a patch" feature...

I am a registered user and logged in...

I open a rack of mine and I do not get a drop down menu under "My Modular". This is true using IE9 and Chrome (latest version).

I'm on Win7/64.

Any clues to what I might be doing wrong? Is there a plug-in I need to activate?

Thanks for your help.
southphillysynths
I love this site, helps us all out but could get a general 4U page going? Mainly for Diy sort of stuff, like CGS, hexinverter, MFOS and all them guys?
solitud
mrcharles wrote:
OK... I must be missing something... I want to use the "draw a patch" feature...

I am a registered user and logged in...

I open a rack of mine and I do not get a drop down menu under "My Modular". This is true using IE9 and Chrome (latest version).

I'm on Win7/64.

Any clues to what I might be doing wrong? Is there a plug-in I need to activate?

Thanks for your help.

You have to activate your account via the confirmation email. I have PMed you further instructions.
solitud
southphillysynths wrote:
I love this site, helps us all out but could get a general 4U page going? Mainly for Diy sort of stuff, like CGS, hexinverter, MFOS and all them guys?

You are the first who requested this. So until some more guys chime in it will not happen waah
msprigings
I'll second the 4U diy crowd
the bad producer
3rd the 4u

Guinness ftw!
sushiluv
thanks for the mudularplanner, i use it a lot, best one around.
solitud
msprigings wrote:
I'll second the 4U diy crowd

the bad producer wrote:
3rd the 4u
Guinness ftw!

You're kidding me? You guys do this on purpose! I even have no clue what this 4U thing is about. hmmm.....
Keep in mind: to make the planner work the width of modules must be standardized for collision detection and snap to position function.
Pretty sure I can not rely on this in DIY land where people build their modules in cookie jars and blacklight illuminated skullz.
bananeurysm
Planning out cookie jars would be absurd, but I'd love serge format 4u for my diy plannings. 1u = 1 standard 4u column.
solitud
update

Pittsburgh Style Rack Theme
Fellow Wiggler and Grayscale panel designer Sempervirent created a Rack theme inspired by the Pittsburgh Cell Systems.
The theme has a very small footprint in size and is a great alternative to the standard "space hog" Shelf theme.

bananeurysm
solitud - if you're curious about potential interest in 4u on modular grid - I recommend starting a thread in the DIY section, and the serge/buchla section asking about interest.

I'd be surprised if there aren't a TON of folks (especially diy'ers) that would love to use your tool to layout their racks. Right now the best option for us is pretending our 4u rigs are 5u. There are a lot of diyers using 4u at pretty close to serge standards. (And lots of philosophical reasons DIYers embrace that format - Serge has always been DIY.)

Thanks for the great tool either way!
Junk Rhythm
Is there any chance that the comments could allow Soundcloud embeds? It would be cool to link the related audio file with the patch/rack while still keeping the viewer on the Modular Grid site.
solitud
bananeurysm wrote:
There are a lot of diyers using 4u at pretty close to serge standards. (And lots of philosophical reasons DIYers embrace that format - Serge has always been DIY.)

Still don't get it. Is 4U == Serge format? If yes: there is already a Serge universe in ModularGrid where wigglers can upload their modules ...

Junk Rhythm wrote:
Is there any chance that the comments could allow Soundcloud embeds? It would be cool to link the related audio file with the patch/rack while still keeping the viewer on the Modular Grid site.

Great idea, I will check what is possible ...
exper
solitud wrote:
bananeurysm wrote:
There are a lot of diyers using 4u at pretty close to serge standards. (And lots of philosophical reasons DIYers embrace that format - Serge has always been DIY.)

Still don't get it. Is 4U == Serge format? If yes: there is already a Serge universe in ModularGrid where wigglers can upload their modules ...

Junk Rhythm wrote:
Is there any chance that the comments could allow Soundcloud embeds? It would be cool to link the related audio file with the patch/rack while still keeping the viewer on the Modular Grid site.

Great idea, I will check what is possible ...


4U is the size of Buchla and Serge as well as quite a bit of DIY. However, the power schemes are different, so a universal 4u page might be in order. There's DIY 4u that doesn't necessarily fit into the standard Buchla sizes or full serge panels. Many CGS PCB are built into either large 4u panels or sometimes individual 4u modules just like euro, but usually banana jack compatible.

+1 to SC embedding. Great idea.
hank
Some best of CGS panels are already in the serge planner.
solitud
Junk Rhythm wrote:
Is there any chance that the comments could allow Soundcloud embeds? It would be cool to link the related audio file with the patch/rack while still keeping the viewer on the Modular Grid site.


update
Embed Soundcloud tracks
Now you can embed Soundcloud tracks in Rack and Module Discussions.
Post tracks you made with your modular or just example sounds of your favorite module. Blind Panel sounds will be deleted zombie .
To post a Soundcloud track just post the WordPress Code in the ModularGrid Editor. You can find the WordPress Code in the Share options of any public Soundcloud widget.
Junk Rhythm
Thank you for the Soundcloud update. Perfect!
solitud
I am excited to see if people will use it to embed their demos. Could be really useful for building up some kind of oscillator/filter sound database.
I already have attached Expers Complex Oscillator test to the appropriate rack. It is also possible to attach the demos to patches. We will see. Thanks for the request!
http://modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/31241
Junk Rhythm
solitud wrote:
I am excited to see if people will use it to embed their demos.


I think it will offer a great way to let users see a patch while also getting to hear what it sounds like. I dropped a Soundcloud bomb into one of my patch layouts.

http://modulargrid.net/e/patches/view/932
exper
solitud wrote:
I am excited to see if people will use it to embed their demos. Could be really useful for building up some kind of oscillator/filter sound database.
I already have attached Expers Complex Oscillator test to the appropriate rack. It is also possible to attach the demos to patches. We will see. Thanks for the request!
http://modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/31241


Cool, thanks. I was just going to do that.

What I'm wondering is, how should demos for modules be handled? Leave it up to manuf. or should users upload appropriate demos? I'd add my Hertz Donut mkii demo to its page if so.
solitud
exper wrote:

What I'm wondering is, how should demos for modules be handled? Leave it up to manuf. or should users upload appropriate demos? I'd add my Hertz Donut mkii demo to its page if so.

Manufacturers seem to be very lazy in regarding to update their module info on ModularGrid. So we have to do it.
I am fine with everything related to a module, complete tracks or precise demos, so go for it!
mheumann
Am I alone in spending way too much time at ModularGrid tweaking my modular system for optimal ergonomics? Seriously, I spend a LOT of time doing that. It's sad.
solitud
mheumann wrote:
Am I alone in spending way too much time at ModularGrid tweaking my modular system for optimal ergonomics? Seriously, I spend a LOT of time doing that. It's sad.

How can I fix that? A parental advisory mode which restricts your modulargrid use to 1h daily and after that automatically redirects you to yourhomework.com? lol
solitud
update

Patches Index Page
1. There is a new entry in the navigation bar called "Patches" which leads you to a new index page where all the glorious patches are nicely displayed.
2. You can make screenshots from your Patch and post it on the webs like you can do with your Rack!

http://modulargrid.net/e/patches
exper
Thanks for always improving this site. It's wonderful.

I know in the past some asked for some type of knob for the patch page. Anyway this could still happen? Even something as simple as an arrow to point to knob position would be great. You could simply select whether or not a double click drops a cable or knob indicator. Then you could just drag it around to the knob you want to notate. Clicking one end could move it, and the other rotation.
solitud
exper wrote:
I know in the past some asked for some type of knob for the patch page. Anyway this could still happen?

Thanks.
Yes, this feature sits still on my never ending todo list. Something like this will come, it's just a question of "when"...
exper
Sweet. Thanks!
solitud
exper wrote:
I know in the past some asked for some type of knob for the patch page. Anyway this could still happen?


update

Patch Knob Markers
It ain't pretty but it's there. Now you can add Knob Markers on your Patches.
I have added a DrawMode Switch where you can select if you want to draw Cables or Knob Markers.
Knob Markers are visualized as simple circles which you can add and remove via DoubleClick and drag them freely around.
Ideally you should place them on the border of a knob, of course.
Morley
I'm having a lot of fun designing system I won't ever buy!
Really great site.
Any chance of Moog IIIc style cabinets?
solitud
Morley wrote:
I'm having a lot of fun designing system I won't ever buy!
Really great site.

Thanks!
Morley wrote:
Any chance of Moog IIIc style cabinets?

As always: possible if someone provides me useful images of the empty cabinet ...
DomMorley
Anyone else struggling to use this today? Page won't load for me.
solitud
DomMorley wrote:
Anyone else struggling to use this today? Page won't load for me.

One other user reported it, too. I have no idea what happened. System seems to be working fine at the moment. Was there some kind of error message?
exper
I forget what it said, but it wasn't loading for me either.
noisefield
thanks for this site and thanks for update it frequently !
good work
nanners
Ucture
This is good job!
Thank you !
applause
apertureburn
can we get the PT Audio Dual Digital Oscillator panel up please? not the 26hp Clark panel for it, but the 22hp original panel.

Lazerkind says that the image had been sent a while back but modulargrid were on vacation.

Great tool, I use it so much!
maudibe
Hi Solitud,

Tried deleting a few racks over the last couple of days (I have a lot of 'trial' racks as I have assembled the system!)... but they wouldn't delete.

Any ideas?

Best, Steve aka Maudibe.
solitud
apertureburn wrote:
can we get the PT Audio Dual Digital Oscillator panel up please? not the 26hp Clark panel for it, but the 22hp original panel.

Did you noticed that registered users can upload moduledata and images on their own?
apertureburn wrote:

Lazerkind says that the image had been sent a while back but modulargrid were on vacation.

Great tool, I use it so much!

If I am modulargrid than it is true: modulargrid visited Belgium, the pittoresk country in the heart of Europe where traces of a medieval past melt into the promise of a bright avantgarde electronic subculture.
But I did not receive any images ...
solitud
maudibe wrote:
Hi Solitud,

Tried deleting a few racks over the last couple of days (I have a lot of 'trial' racks as I have assembled the system!)... but they wouldn't delete.

Any ideas?

Best, Steve aka Maudibe.

Strange.
Any error messages?
From which menu did you try to delete them?
Did a PopUp come up with the Text "Are you sure you want to delete My Rack"?
Can you tell me the id of a rack you can not delete?
DomMorley
Hey Solitud

Just a polite nudge on the 'can we mix both 5U formats in one rack please?' question.

Thanks!

P.S. I made a basic monorocket case divider image just now (1U in MU & MOTM and 6hp in Euro). It's crude, but hopefully will help people visualize & edit more than one case at a time. Looks like this: http://modulargrid.net/d/racks/view/29917
solitud
DomMorley wrote:
Hey Solitud
Just a polite nudge on the 'can we mix both 5U formats in one rack please?' question.

I thought about some ways to do it. It's really complicated, because I did some mistakes in planning the database structure in the beginning. I had no clue about the 5U formats at this time (and still have only very basic knowledge).
Tell me, in an ideal ModularGrid world: do 5U people care if a module is MOTM or MU?
Should I still differ between these formats or merge everything in a general 5U section?

DomMorley wrote:
Hey Solitud
P.S. I made a basic monorocket case divider image just now (1U in MU & MOTM and 6hp in Euro). It's crude, but hopefully will help people visualize & edit more than one case at a time. Looks like this: http://modulargrid.net/d/racks/view/29917

I like the creativity in this workaround smile
JohnLRice
solitud wrote:
DomMorley wrote:
Hey Solitud
Just a polite nudge on the 'can we mix both 5U formats in one rack please?' question.

I thought about some ways to do it. It's really complicated, because I did some mistakes in planning the database structure in the beginning. I had no clue about the 5U formats at this time (and still have only very basic knowledge).
Tell me, in an ideal ModularGrid world: do 5U people care if a module is MOTM or MU?
Should I still differ between these formats or merge everything in a general 5U section?


I think ModularGrid is great! applause thumbs up But yeah, having MOTM and MU in one unified 5U section would be a lot better I think.

Here is some random info:

Modcan B is the same width/height/mounting hole spacing as MOTM but Modcan A would need it's own section as it is taller.

MOTM and MU have different mounting hole spacing so they wont work on the same row using machined rails (normally). Wooden rails work OK for both though.

Most 5U runs on +-15V but some requires +5V, some only work on +-12V and some need +12V and -6V (like some old Moog modules).
solitud
JohnLRice wrote:

Modcan B is the same width/height/mounting hole spacing as MOTM but Modcan A would need it's own section as it is taller.

MOTM and MU have different mounting hole spacing so they wont work on the same row using machined rails (normally). Wooden rails work OK for both though.

Most 5U runs on +-15V but some requires +5V, some only work on +-12V and some need +12V and -6V (like some old Moog modules).

Uff. You can imagine where the problem lies. All these exceptions and different flavors result in a lot of "if" and "else". I will think about it, but don't expect a solution very soon...

In the meantime on an other construction site ...
update

Bugfix: Patches of large Racks will be displayed on iOS devices
Formerly Patches of large Racks could not be displayed on mobile devices (iPad, iPhone, etc.)
Either nothing was rendered (white screen) or the Racks were cropped as a fallback.
This should work now (if your mobile device has enough free RAM, else the browser might crash waah)
There is the saying: Irgendwas ist immer.

Also I added some space left and right to the rack which vastly improves touchscroll ability.
JohnLRice
solitud wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:

Modcan B is the same width/height/mounting hole spacing as MOTM but Modcan A would need it's own section as it is taller.

MOTM and MU have different mounting hole spacing so they wont work on the same row using machined rails (normally). Wooden rails work OK for both though.

Most 5U runs on +-15V but some requires +5V, some only work on +-12V and some need +12V and -6V (like some old Moog modules).

Uff. You can imagine where the problem lies. All these exceptions and different flavors result in a lot of "if" and "else". I will think about it, but don't expect a solution very soon...


Yes, I can relate the pain it is, both from a modular end user point of view and a programmer's view! eek! Dead Banana

Here are some thoughts on a way to possibly do it hmmm..... :

Come up with a way to attach/stack multiple racks together. If nothing else, this would be useful for seeing what an entire system consisting of multiple racks looks like. This might be a separate 'System' section that allows selecting racks for the other sections.

Come up with a new 'Theme' called 'Floating' or similar. This would be a module container that has zero thickness top, bottom and sides. A 'floater' hihi could be as little as one HP / 1U wide to as many as allowed but for simplicity of combining maybe limit height to one module?? hmmm.....

This way, both MU and MOTM sections can stay pretty much the way they are and all of the voltages etc can still calculate the same. When MU, MOTM and any other sub section is combined into a master System, you'd just have to add the totals of the sub sections together. Maybe have an option to save or use a 'system' as a 'rack' so that multiple 'systems can be combined?

I know, much easier said than done but this seems easier than trying to totally redo the database and trying to combine exceptions. This is fun!
DomMorley
JohnLRice wrote:

Most 5U runs on +-15V but some requires +5V, some only work on +-12V and some need +12V and -6V (like some old Moog modules).


Oh yeah - I hadn't even thought about the voltage info. I really only look at the positioning and that (I think) would be simpler to implement. You're really looking at two different standards of module width (as you have separated them at the moment - MU & MOTM) being combined so they can snap together. It ends up meaning that if you designate a rack width of (eg) 12MU, but put in 6MU and then 6MOTM space is left over that isn't a set MU. Obviously this is how it is in the real world, it's just whether it's possible to program modulargrid to work that way.

Just an idea - in a combined 5U world the case widths could be determined by centimetres instead of U/hp, so one wouldn't need to pick an MU or MOTM width standard for your case. Perhaps also do away with a snapping-to-grid idea as well in terms of width - only height. Then we can place modules as we see fit and the different width formats won't be a problem.
Again, I have no idea how incredibly complicated to implement my apparently simple ideas are! hihi

Thanks again for all your amazing work. An indispensable tool! thumbs up
DomMorley
solitud wrote:

Should I still differ between these formats or merge everything in a general 5U section?


Personally, I'd keep the ones you have and add a simpler 5U section that combines formats. The power issue is pretty complicated once you start mixing these, so I'd just keep it as a visual layout thing. Just a standard height and no snapping to position. If it could access the modules database of the other two that would save a lot of uploading, but we could always do this again if it's a deal-breaker. Just so long as you could say which width (MU or MOTM) the module is when you upload it so it comes out right.
solitud
JohnLRice wrote:

Come up with a way to attach/stack multiple racks together. If nothing else, this would be useful for seeing what an entire system consisting of multiple racks looks like. This might be a separate 'System' section that allows selecting racks for the other sections.

Come up with a new 'Theme' called 'Floating' or similar. This would be a module container that has zero thickness top, bottom and sides. A 'floater' hihi could be as little as one HP / 1U wide to as many as allowed but for simplicity of combining maybe limit height to one module?? hmmm.....

This way, both MU and MOTM sections can stay pretty much the way they are and all of the voltages etc can still calculate the same. When MU, MOTM and any other sub section is combined into a master System, you'd just have to add the totals of the sub sections together. Maybe have an option to save or use a 'system' as a 'rack' so that multiple 'systems can be combined?

O.K., combining two different racks in one system view is a different call than combine different format modules in one rack.
It can be done but I still have some doubts how elegant it will be to edit these.
Just open two browser windows side by side is a too naive suggestion? (hides)
DomMorley wrote:

Oh yeah - I hadn't even thought about the voltage info. I really only look at the positioning and that (I think) would be simpler to implement.

In a first attempt I would drop the power calculation entirely, cause this will fail eventually for sure. ModularGrid is not capable to calculate powerconsumption on a row basis. This is another problem.
DomMorley wrote:

Just an idea - in a combined 5U world the case widths could be determined by centimetres instead of U/hp, so one wouldn't need to pick an MU or MOTM width standard for your case. Perhaps also do away with a snapping-to-grid idea as well in terms of width - only height. Then we can place modules as we see fit and the different width formats won't be a problem.

To not go bananas and branch the project to oblivion I have to use the same code basis for all formats.
That means snapping will stay. I thought about using the "smallest common divisor" of the two 1HP widths as a snapping grid.
MU width 2.125", MOTM width 1.75" results in a Snapping Unit of 0.125.
This actually will behave like a free placement, but should allow clean positioning.
DomMorley wrote:
If it could access the modules database of the other two that would save a lot of uploading, but we could always do this again if it's a deal-breaker. Just so long as you could say which width (MU or MOTM) the module is when you upload it so it comes out right.

Reuploading modules will result in a big mess. Existing modules definitely have to be reused again.
Guys, I am really thinking about this to find a practical and lightweight solution.
But don't be mad with me if that don't will be happen very soon ...
DomMorley
solitud wrote:
I thought about using the "smallest common divisor" of the two 1HP widths as a snapping grid.
MU width 2.125", MOTM width 1.75" results in a Snapping Unit of 0.125.
This actually will behave like a free placement, but should allow clean positioning.


Ooh - that's a really nice idea. Very elegant solution.

solitud wrote:
But don't be mad with me if that don't will be happen very soon ...


That's never going to be the case! We are all very grateful for your efforts here.
JohnLRice
solitud wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:

Come up with a way to attach/stack multiple racks together. If nothing else, this would be useful for seeing what an entire system consisting of multiple racks looks like. This might be a separate 'System' section that allows selecting racks for the other sections.

Come up with a new 'Theme' called 'Floating' or similar. This would be a module container that has zero thickness top, bottom and sides. A 'floater' hihi could be as little as one HP / 1U wide to as many as allowed but for simplicity of combining maybe limit height to one module?? hmmm.....

This way, both MU and MOTM sections can stay pretty much the way they are and all of the voltages etc can still calculate the same. When MU, MOTM and any other sub section is combined into a master System, you'd just have to add the totals of the sub sections together. Maybe have an option to save or use a 'system' as a 'rack' so that multiple 'systems can be combined?

O.K., combining two different racks in one system view is a different call than combine different format modules in one rack.
It can be done but I still have some doubts how elegant it will be to edit these.
Just open two browser windows side by side is a too naive suggestion? (hides)


Mr. Green This is my big 5U system, it consists of 9 racks: three 12U in height, three 10U in height and three 6U in height. Three of them are MOTM, five of them are MU and one is MIDI stuff. (hey, wanna add a 19" rack mount gear section in your spare time??? lol )

solitud
JohnLRice wrote:

Mr. Green This is my big 5U system, it consists of 9 racks: three 12U in height, three 10U in height and three 6U in height. Three of them are MOTM, five of them are MU and one is MIDI stuff. (hey, wanna add a 19" rack mount gear section in your spare time??? lol )

OMG. woah I always forget how obsessed you guys are.
In this case the only way a "system view" could work is that I redefine the command center, e.g. let you rearrange the thumbnail images and combine them into systems. Click on a thumbnail would "zoom" in to the actual rack edit view, like it works now. Hows that?
JohnLRice
solitud wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:

Mr. Green This is my big 5U system, it consists of 9 racks: three 12U in height, three 10U in height and three 6U in height. Three of them are MOTM, five of them are MU and one is MIDI stuff. (hey, wanna add a 19" rack mount gear section in your spare time??? lol )

OMG. woah I always forget how obsessed you guys are.
In this case the only way a "system view" could work is that I redefine the command center, e.g. let you rearrange the thumbnail images and combine them into systems. Click on a thumbnail would "zoom" in to the actual rack edit view, like it works now. Hows that?


angry Hey, if everyone only bought 10 or less modules, there wouldn't be much use for a planner, would there? lol 8_)

Yeah, your suggestions sounds like it would be useful and helpful.

Just FYI, have you ever looked at the Synthesizers.com SynthInvent? As far as I know it is THE original modular planner.
DomMorley
solitud wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:

Mr. Green This is my big 5U system, it consists of 9 racks: three 12U in height, three 10U in height and three 6U in height. Three of them are MOTM, five of them are MU and one is MIDI stuff. (hey, wanna add a 19" rack mount gear section in your spare time??? lol )

OMG. woah I always forget how obsessed you guys are.
In this case the only way a "system view" could work is that I redefine the command center, e.g. let you rearrange the thumbnail images and combine them into systems. Click on a thumbnail would "zoom" in to the actual rack edit view, like it works now. Hows that?


Or, for a clumsier solution but one that doesn't require click-throughs, you could build your racks in the up-coming mixed format system we've been discussing using the case-divider blanks that I posted. See my two MU cases in one planner here: http://modulargrid.net/d/racks/view/29917
solitud
Still no mixed 5U section, however ...

minor usability update
Funky Format Carousel
You can slide through the different formats in the universe selector without leaving the homepage.
You can choose if you want to visit the module browser or just switch the format universe and stay on the homepage.
tommyecho
Hey guys,

Forgive me if this has been answered earlier in this very long thread but. . .

how do I make a patch? I went to "my modular" but I am not finding any menu choices that will allow me to make a patch. I don't see any patch chords anywhere or anything like that. . . I'm sure I'm just missing something, but I can't figure it out.

thanks!!!!!!
JohnLRice
tommyecho wrote:
Hey guys,

Forgive me if this has been answered earlier in this very long thread but. . .

how do I make a patch? I went to "my modular" but I am not finding any menu choices that will allow me to make a patch. I don't see any patch chords anywhere or anything like that. . . I'm sure I'm just missing something, but I can't figure it out.

thanks!!!!!!


When you are viewing one of your racks, it should be in the menu on the upper left:

solitud
... but only if you are a registered user who opted in via the confirmation email. Does not work with anonymous accounts.
tommyecho
solitud wrote:
... but only if you are a registered user who opted in via the confirmation email. Does not work with anonymous accounts.


Aha! That was the problem! Now all is well. Thanks so much guys! And thanks, solitud, for your great work!
Dcramer
solitud wrote:
... but only if you are a registered user who opted in via the confirmation email. Does not work with anonymous accounts.

Dat explains it! thumbs up
solitud
I have to make this clearer and more prominent.
The reason you have to register is a spam attack lately when a spammer automatically added over 1000 Racks, called them "Jenna Jameson naked" and linked them to dubious fishing sites ... meh
Vsyevolod
Are you assuming we'd rather see one over the other?

smile

Stephen




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infradead
solitud wrote:
I have to make this clearer and more prominent.
The reason you have to register is a spam attack lately when a spammer automatically added over 1000 Racks, called them "Jenna Jameson naked" and linked them to dubious fishing sites ... meh


knowing that made my day.
Bumply
solitud wrote:
... but only if you are a registered user who opted in via the confirmation email. Does not work with anonymous accounts.


Strange. I'm having the same problem, but I am logged in - not anonymous; although I can't remember the email confirmation procedure, as it was a while back. I'm not seeing the patch functions at all. hmmm.....
solitud
Bumply wrote:
Strange. I'm having the same problem, but I am logged in - not anonymous; although I can't remember the email confirmation procedure, as it was a while back. I'm not seeing the patch functions at all. hmmm.....

Pmd you instructions
ollepetersson
solitud wrote:
Bumply wrote:
Strange. I'm having the same problem, but I am logged in - not anonymous; although I can't remember the email confirmation procedure, as it was a while back. I'm not seeing the patch functions at all. hmmm.....

Pmd you instructions


I have the same issue, can I have a PM too This is fun!

Cheers,
/Olle
solitud
ollepetersson wrote:

I have the same issue, can I have a PM too This is fun!
/Olle

For all registered users that can not access the SketchAPatch feature:
chances are you never activated your account through the confirmation email which was send to you after registration.
You can resend this confirmation email to yourself again:
1. Login
2. In the main navigation bar click "me:[username]".
3. Click "Edit User"
4. Click "request a new confirmation email!"
5. Click on the link in the email you will receive. (check Spam, if you do not receive anything)
solitud
I made this clearer for all on the website.
Everybody sees the Sketch a Patch Dropdown now and will be redirected to the activation process if necessary.
ollepetersson
Thanks! smile
trotz
As you said, it must be a matter of other modules and the box not having the exact measures.

I measured my Micromac -R and it happens to be exactly 28'95 centimeters wide, which translates to 11,397638 inches. Given that 1 hp is 0,20 inches, that makes a total of 56,998 hp (in practical terms, 57hp).

I keep some pictures showing a ruler and the micromac if further proof is necessary...

Smacked in the head with a trout
maudibe
Hi Solitud.

Bit of a bug I think... I can not delete my racks either from the commander or the edit.

I now have a vast plethora of racks...all of them redundant but one or two zombie


Any ideas?

Edited to add - tried this on a couple of different systems... pc and mac...

Thanks for all your massive hard work on this app.

Best, Maudibe
solitud
maudibe wrote:
Hi Solitud.

Bit of a bug I think... I can not delete my racks either from the commander or the edit.

I now have a vast plethora of racks...all of them redundant but one or two zombie


Any ideas?

Edited to add - tried this on a couple of different systems... pc and mac...

Thanks for all your massive hard work on this app.

Best, Maudibe

Can you explain what happens if you click on a delete rack link? Is there an error message?
An Javascript Alert Popup should open. Did you see this? If not, do you have some kind of PopUp Blocker active?
solitud
Hi Maudibe,
I "hacked" into your account to reproduce the problem and indeed:
a bug you found.

I am wondering that nobody else reported similar issues.
It had something to do with the Quotes "" you use in the rack names.

I hope it's fixed now. Please check and report back if it's working now.
And thanks for reporting!
maudibe
Super Solitud...fixed. Ah joy... I can now clean up my space smile

Thanks bud thumbs up
solitud
maudibe wrote:
Super Solitud...fixed. Ah joy... I can now clean up my space smile

Thanks bud thumbs up

Glad it works thumbs up
solitud
update

Rack Browser
Somehow this was missing: a Rack Browser.
Now you can browse through all public Racks and even search by name or rows.
I also rearranged the navigation bar slightly.
Most important change: You have to click on "Modules" to submit a module now.

The ModularGrid Rack Browser
exeterdown
Hey man, the Cwejman DLFO has been glitching a bit lately.
Changes size and artwork a lot.
I really prefer the plain artwork not the photo of the module.

Love the site!
Keep up the great work.
solitud
exeterdown wrote:
Hey man, the Cwejman DLFO has been glitching a bit lately.
Changes size and artwork a lot.
I really prefer the plain artwork not the photo of the module.

Love the site!
Keep up the great work.

The problem is that ModularGrid does not support several panel versions for one module.
To keeps things consistently to the other modules the official preference for modules are photos.
In case of the DLFO there might be an other problem: the module is officially 12 HP width, but this seem to be more like 14HP? Can somebody confirm who owns this module?
solitud
update

ModularGrid News Flash
Another opportunity to waste your time. Check out the ModularGrid News page and get your daily modular info demands fixed.
It's basically a Facebook and Twitter Post aggregator where I did the hard work for you to collect all the interesting channels.

http://www.modulargrid.net/socialtope
xonetacular
Modulargrid is such a great site

Is there any way to browse users?

I see you can browse racks and click a user's page but what about a list of users?
solitud
xonetacular wrote:
Modulargrid is such a great site

Is there any way to browse users?

I see you can browse racks and click a user's page but what about a list of users?

Kind of. A very generic user list can be found here:
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/users
dualmono
Just a quick fyi.
I can't sketch a patch anymore.
When I try, I get this:
Quote:
Something does not work as expected ...

Could not load screenshot.


Manually calling the screenshot url gives me this:


Quote:
Image not found

Error: The requested address '/img/patches/modulargrid_1789.jpg' was not found on this server.
southphillysynths
Will there be a Erthenvar lunchbox case option in euro? I know there is the 1u tiles on regular euro cases, but having the 54hp case with the 1u row below it would be super awesome!
solitud
dualmono wrote:
Just a quick fyi.
I can't sketch a patch anymore.
When I try, I get this:
Quote:
Something does not work as expected ...

Could not load screenshot.


Manually calling the screenshot url gives me this:


Quote:
Image not found

Error: The requested address '/img/patches/modulargrid_1789.jpg' was not found on this server.

Should work again, screenshot server crashed.
dualmono
solitud wrote:
Should work again, screenshot server crashed.


Nice! Thank you!
nanners
solitud
update

A Lightbox for the Module Images
Click on the Module image on the Module detail page to see the Module image in full size (if available).

E.G.
http://modulargrid.net/e/make-noise-dpo
southphillysynths
Bug brand page? Its a kinda small format, but it would be great to be able to see their entire line, and put together a system!
solitud
southphillysynths wrote:
Bug brand page? Its a kinda small format, but it would be great to be able to see their entire line, and put together a system!

It's already there. Switch to the Frac format and find all of their modules.
Vsyevolod
I've been putting together a few different Serge panels and have found this site to be incredibly useful. Kudos!

Some of the modules have prices on them (2010 prices but it's a good start) and others do not, while one or two have incorrect prices. Is there any way to add these to existing modules? I'd happily go through them all and update them if there were a way to do this.

Stephen




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solitud
Vsyevolod wrote:
I've been putting together a few different Serge panels and have found this site to be incredibly useful. Kudos!

Some of the modules have prices on them (2010 prices but it's a good start) and others do not, while one or two have incorrect prices. Is there any way to add these to existing modules? I'd happily go through them all and update them if there were a way to do this.

Stephen

Thanks!
If you go to a module detail page there should be a link "Edit this module" in the top right section of the site.
Would be great if you could update some data.
Vsyevolod
Done.

All Serge non-custom panels and M-class panels have been updated to 2010 prices. Since no price list exists since that time, I suggest keeping the prices as they are so we have some form of reference to base used prices on. If we start updating a few panels to current prices, then it skews the perspective.

Stephen




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solitud
Vsyevolod wrote:
Done.

All Serge non-custom panels and M-class panels have been updated to 2010 prices. Since no price list exists since that time, I suggest keeping the prices as they are so we have some form of reference to base used prices on. If we start updating a few panels to current prices, then it skews the perspective.

Stephen
.

Great, thanks!
exper
Anyone see this on Facebook? Wonder what Solitud has in store?

Upright
I saw it....it all happens tomorrow but I'm looking forward to it.
solitud
TrueGrid is a fully functional modular web synthesizer which let's you create, listen and share modular synth patches.



http://modulargrid.net/e/racks/synth
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95067
BTG
wow, looks nice!

on a semi-related note, another feature request for modular grid -- when hovering over a gap in a rack, have a tooltip that shows the width? =)
rockwoofstone
That could end up being a very ambitious undertaking!
solitud
rockwoofstone wrote:
That could end up being a very ambitious undertaking!

I'm afraid that you're right. Hence the reference to TrueGri(t).
We have to start at one point...
sonicwarrior
I don't remember the solution for double entries:

Found two entries for the PDO MK 2

  1. http://www.modulargrid.net/e/wmd-phase-displacement-oscillator-mkii
  2. http://www.modulargrid.net/e/wmd-pdo-mkii


The first has been entered in March, the second in August.

Edit:
More:

  1. http://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-diy-passive-gate-trigger-co nverter
  2. http://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-diy-passive-or-combiner



  1. http://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-plog
  2. http://www.modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-plog-duplicate

Here the second one is at least already marked as 'duplicate'.
solitud
sonicwarrior wrote:
I don't remember the solution for double entries

Thanks, I have set the "duplicate" flag for those modules, they should not appear anymore in the module browser.
Until of course the uploader removes the flag again, what sometimes happens meh
Nantonos
solitud wrote:
TrueGrid is a fully functional modular web synthesizer which let's you create, listen and share modular synth patches if you are using Google Chrome.


fixed that for you.

One more time with less snark: is this using WebAudio, is that why its Chrome only?
solitud
Nantonos wrote:
solitud wrote:
TrueGrid is a fully functional modular web synthesizer which let's you create, listen and share modular synth patches if you are using Google Chrome.


fixed that for you.

One more time with less snark: is this using WebAudio, is that why its Chrome only?

Haha.
I have to start at some point. What would you do in my position? Should I have waited with the release till every mature browser is capable of supporting the new technology? That would be realistically in 1 to 2 years.

Yes, I use the WebAudioAPI which is still in draft status.
TrueGrid works also in Safari to some degree, but there is a Safari bug that prevents the CV filter modulation to work properly.
For that reason I declared it as "Chrome only" what probably was a mistake.
I tested the latest Safari Nightly build, things seem to improve here and I expect the next official release of Safari to work fine.

Take that: I am also seriously thinking about releasing a feature that will work in Chrome Canary only.
If you are into these things you might have a clue what it will be ...
Nantonos
solitud wrote:

Take that: I am also seriously thinking about releasing a feature that will work in Chrome Canary only.
If you are into these things you might have a clue what it will be ...


I was going to suggest changing oscillator type? But that is supposed to work in WebKit nightly as well.

Thought of adding WebMIDI support as well?

Seriously, its a very nice (and very bleeding edge) project.
solitud
Nantonos wrote:
solitud wrote:

Take that: I am also seriously thinking about releasing a feature that will work in Chrome Canary only.
If you are into these things you might have a clue what it will be ...


I was going to suggest changing oscillator type? But that is supposed to work in WebKit nightly as well.

Thought of adding WebMIDI support as well?

Seriously, its a very nice (and very bleeding edge) project.

My lips are sealed. But we are surfing the same nerdy pages.
Always find it funny that people, who discuss the hottest new technology use discussion boards which look like they were stuck in the eighties.
Nantonos
(its an email archive, not a discussion board. You are welcome to join the conversation)
Summa
solitud wrote:
sonicwarrior wrote:
I don't remember the solution for double entries

Thanks, I have set the "duplicate" flag for those modules, they should not appear anymore in the module browser.
Until of course the uploader removes the flag again, what sometimes happens meh


ok, I'm pretty sure I added the duplicate after the name on that particular module, I think I did that on maybe three or so, so far, I couldn't find any other way to get rid of them razz I think it's pretty annoying to have duplicates and they also tend to vary in info..
Randy
I've been fooling with the planner and reading through the threads here but there are still a few things that are hiding from me. Eventually I will put something together for making music of some sort. I'm really just a piano player so I don't get into bloopie/bleepie stuff too much.

I want to put together a rack that has a bunch of sound sources, and ways to add subtle bits of random-ness to those sources, slight changes in pitch, amplitude and timbre that mimics the way acoustic intruments react but not immitating a real instrument.

I have two questions, at least for now. There are alot of racks in the planner but I have no way of knowing which are designed by experts and which are designed by newbies like me. Can someone recommend a couple of example racks that demonstrate how a rack should be designed on a general level?

Related to that, is that I'm looking for examples of how to setup the connections to the "real world." Once I have the sound I'm looking for, what is the best way to get that into a stereo mixer? Do I need a mixer module or is there a better way? What about VCAs? How many VCAs does a modular synth really need?

Thanks

Randy
solitud
Randy wrote:
I've been fooling with the planner and reading through the threads here but there are still a few things that are hiding from me. Eventually I will put something together for making music of some sort. I'm really just a piano player so I don't get into bloopie/bleepie stuff too much.

I want to put together a rack that has a bunch of sound sources, and ways to add subtle bits of random-ness to those sources, slight changes in pitch, amplitude and timbre that mimics the way acoustic intruments react but not immitating a real instrument.

Sounds pretty much like small standard setup with oscillators, filters, modulations sources.
A modular in general tends to bloop and bleep but also more organic electronic sounds like a theremin are easy to achieve.

Randy wrote:

I have two questions, at least for now. There are alot of racks in the planner but I have no way of knowing which are designed by experts and which are designed by newbies like me. Can someone recommend a couple of example racks that demonstrate how a rack should be designed on a general level?

I can not tell you who is an expert and who not. It might be a good idea to look how manufacturers choose modules for their standard systems. You can order preconfigured systems from Doepfer, Pittsburgh Modular, MakeNoise, etc. Look whats in those racks.
Randy wrote:

Related to that, is that I'm looking for examples of how to setup the connections to the "real world." Once I have the sound I'm looking for, what is the best way to get that into a stereo mixer? Do I need a mixer module or is there a better way? What about VCAs? How many VCAs does a modular synth really need?

I like to use an Outs module for that which adapts the jack sizes and typically has a "volume" knob and earphone socket. But it's not mandatory to use that. You can connect from any attenuator, too.
el clon
i finally tried Modulargrid this evening and it's great! good job! thumbs up

i haven't tried any patching yet, just reproducing my systems. in the process, i had a couple of questions. please forgive me if these have been asked before.

when putting together my Frac system, i found a couple of modules were missing from the database. i didn't try adding them because they're already part of the Euro database, so i thought maybe someone who knows how could just copy them over to the Frac section? the modules are STG's Post-Lawsuit Lowpass Filter, and Synthesis Technology's E355 Morphing Dual LFO. or should i just add them from scratch?

the other question has probably been asked before, so i apologize if that's the case, but why no Wiard 300 section? since there's Buchla and Serge... i can't complete my set-up without the Wiard. waah
solitud
el clon wrote:

when putting together my Frac system, i found a couple of modules were missing from the database. i didn't try adding them because they're already part of the Euro database, so i thought maybe someone who knows how could just copy them over to the Frac section? the modules are STG's Post-Lawsuit Lowpass Filter, and Synthesis Technology's E355 Morphing Dual LFO. or should i just add them from scratch?

Please add them from scratch. Since the difference of the faceplate measurements "simply copying over" will not work.
el clon wrote:

the other question has probably been asked before, so i apologize if that's the case, but why no Wiard 300 section? since there's Buchla and Serge... i can't complete my set-up without the Wiard. waah

I feel your pain waah There are just so many construction sites on ModularGrid I have to prioritise features. A Wiard section unfortunately is not the top requested feature. But do not give up hope on this one wink
Morley
The new Kilpatrick format might be an interesting one. 7 modules but more on the way and on his sight there are nice images of each module click through to get large images.

http://www.kilpatrickaudio.com/?p=kformat
solitud
This looks fantastic but do people need a planner for 7 modules?
Morley
solitud wrote:
This looks fantastic but do people need a planner for 7 modules?


No, but I'd like one!
sonicwarrior
Found another duplicate pair for the uStep:

http://modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-ustep
http://modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-%CE%BCstep

Funnily both uploaded by Intellijel within only a few days. seriously, i just don't get it
solitud
sonicwarrior wrote:
Found another duplicate pair for the uStep:

http://modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-ustep
http://modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-%CE%BCstep

Funnily both uploaded by Intellijel within only a few days. seriously, i just don't get it

Flagged one as duplicate. I could swear I already did this some time ago. Have to implement a moderator god mode soon.
wmbb
Since I see I Truegrid is optimized for Chrome, I thought I might use this thread to ask:

Is there a way to get an entire monster case to fit on the screen in Chrome?

I can't even even use command/+ and command/- to enlarge and shrink the screen (on a Mac btw)

I have to scroll and can't see all the modules at once :-(

I don't have this problem using IE

Thanks!
Nantonos
sonicwarrior wrote:
Found another duplicate pair for the uStep:


Yoo-step? Oh, the micro-Step μStep

sonicwarrior wrote:
http://modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-ustep
http://modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-%CE%BCstep

Funnily both uploaded by Intellijel within only a few days. seriously, i just don't get it


Perhaps they were catering for people who seem unable to use the correct name, and think a latin letter u is much the same as a greek letter mu?

Check what it says on the actual module

μStep
Nantonos
solitud wrote:
sonicwarrior wrote:
Found another duplicate pair for the uStep:

http://modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-ustep
http://modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-%CE%BCstep

Funnily both uploaded by Intellijel within only a few days. seriously, i just don't get it

Flagged one as duplicate. I could swear I already did this some time ago. Have to implement a moderator god mode soon.


It seems that the intent of those duplicates could be acheived by aliases (http redurects). For example you could keep the (correctly named) μStep
entry, and redurect uStep to μStep to cater for the militantly ascii-only brigade.
solitud
wmbb wrote:
Since I see I Truegrid is optimized for Chrome, I thought I might use this thread to ask:

Is there a way to get an entire monster case to fit on the screen in Chrome?

I can't even even use command/+ and command/- to enlarge and shrink the screen (on a Mac btw)

I have to scroll and can't see all the modules at once :-(

I don't have this problem using IE

Thanks!

Strange. Zooming should work without issues.
Try to execute the zooming command from the Chrome menu bar (View -> Zoom In).
Just to check there is no mechanical problem with your keyboard or the keyassignments have magically changed in some obscure preferences ...
sonicwarrior
Nantonos wrote:
Perhaps they were catering for people who seem unable to use the correct name, and think a latin letter u is much the same as a greek letter mu?


I know what it says on the module. It is common here to use u instead of μ because most keyboard layouts don't have a μ and you don't think people are using the character map just to get this one character, do you?
solitud
The μ does not work very well on the internet. Nobody except some nuclear physicist know the shortcut and it makes pretty ugly nice URLs (http://modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-%CE%BCstep).

I try to avoid to make any fancy redirects because this would be another "special case" which I have to remember and care on further developments.

Still the solution is very simple: The ModularGrid search function searches in name AND short description.
So I added "μStep" to the short description.
Nantonos
solitud wrote:
The μ does not work very well on the internet.

It works just fine on the internet, in fact, ever since HTML 3.2 moved to Unicode and urls moved to Unicode.

solitud wrote:
Nobody except some nuclear physicist know the shortcut and it makes pretty ugly nice URLs (http://modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-%CE%BCstep).

Incorrect, the url with current specification is
http://modulargrid.net/e/intellijel-μStep

solitud wrote:
Still the solution is very simple: The ModularGrid search function searches in name AND short description.
So I added "μStep" to the short description.

I guess that workaround is okay too, if you want to be stuck in the 90's.
VibratingMotorGate
So I upgraded my imaginary modular to 8 racks and now I want 10, but it wont let me waah ... also: imaginary Piston Honda or imaginary Furthrrrr Generator? decisions decisions razz now that I think about it I could buy a lot of imaginary friends with all this imaginary money
eole
BTG wrote:
(...) another feature request for modular grid -- when hovering over a gap in a rack, have a tooltip that shows the width? =)

thumbs up this would be great !
el clon
solitud wrote:
el clon wrote:

when putting together my Frac system, i found a couple of modules were missing from the database. i didn't try adding them because they're already part of the Euro database, so i thought maybe someone who knows how could just copy them over to the Frac section? the modules are STG's Post-Lawsuit Lowpass Filter, and Synthesis Technology's E355 Morphing Dual LFO. or should i just add them from scratch?

Please add them from scratch. Since the difference of the faceplate measurements "simply copying over" will not work.
el clon wrote:

the other question has probably been asked before, so i apologize if that's the case, but why no Wiard 300 section? since there's Buchla and Serge... i can't complete my set-up without the Wiard. waah

I feel your pain waah There are just so many construction sites on ModularGrid I have to prioritise features. A Wiard section unfortunately is not the top requested feature. But do not give up hope on this one wink


ok, thanks. i'll add them tonight.... and i'll hope for Wiard in the future! Wiard
solitud
VibratingMotorGate wrote:
So I upgraded my imaginary modular to 8 racks and now I want 10, but it wont let me waah

This should work. What is your mg username?

VibratingMotorGate wrote:
... also: imaginary Piston Honda or imaginary Furthrrrr Generator? decisions decisions razz now that I think about it I could buy a lot of imaginary friends with all this imaginary money

Shall I extend it to a kind of modular Farmville?
thebrotherspus
Any chance of an "undo" button? Using modulargrid on my iPhone is quite difficult. I always accidentally shift modules around while scrolling the page. An undo button would be awesome, although I'm sure it would be a ton of work to implement, so no big deal if it's not practical.
VinceL
Question for a moderator:

Given that Modulargrid covers formats other than Eurorack, wouldn't it make sense to move this thread to Modular Synth General Discussion? seriously, i just don't get it
sonicwarrior
Disclaimer: I'm really not looking for double entries but it seems they are looking for me. hihi (or I am the only one who cares about them)

Oakley Dual VCA MOTM format:
1. http://www.modulargrid.net/m/oakley-dual-vca-
2. http://www.modulargrid.net/m/oakley-dual-vca--

Oakley FourMix MOTM format:
1. http://www.modulargrid.net/m/oakley-fourmix--
2. http://www.modulargrid.net/m/oakley-four-mix
solitud
sonicwarrior wrote:
Disclaimer: I'm really not looking for double entries but it seems they are looking for me. hihi (or I am the only one who cares about them)

Oakley Dual VCA MOTM format:
1. http://www.modulargrid.net/m/oakley-dual-vca-
2. http://www.modulargrid.net/m/oakley-dual-vca--

Oakley FourMix MOTM format:
1. http://www.modulargrid.net/m/oakley-fourmix--
2. http://www.modulargrid.net/m/oakley-four-mix

Flagged as private
solitud
thebrotherspus wrote:
Any chance of an "undo" button? Using modulargrid on my iPhone is quite difficult. I always accidentally shift modules around while scrolling the page. An undo button would be awesome, although I'm sure it would be a ton of work to implement, so no big deal if it's not practical.

This is complicated and will not come very soon. Using ModularGrid on an iPhone needs a lot of modular dedication ... hihi
solitud
update

TrueGrid supports MIDI
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=95067&postdays=0&pos torder=asc&highlight=truegrid&start=57
sonicwarrior
The MegaWave also has duplicate entries:

1. http://www.modulargrid.net/e/malekko-heavy-industry-mega-wave
2. http://www.modulargrid.net/e/malekko-heavy-industry-megawave

There never was a gargoyle version of it beside prototype(s) so 2. should be marked duplicate.
maudibe
Problem with the Grid here:

Hi Solitud,

Although logged in the app wont let me add, delete or move modules and says I must be logged int to do that.

Just started happening tonight. Tried logging out and restarting the page etc. Any ideas?

Thanks for your outstanding work.

Best

Maudibe.
solitud
maudibe wrote:
Problem with the Grid here:

Hi Solitud,

Although logged in the app wont let me add, delete or move modules and says I must be logged int to do that.

Just started happening tonight. Tried logging out and restarting the page etc. Any ideas?

Thanks for your outstanding work.

Best

Maudibe.

On a first look I can not see any problems. I know the hoster wanted to do some maintainance work, maybe that was the cause of troubles. Please check back if you still have issues.
maudibe
All sorted Solitud, must have been that maintainance patch. Thanks for checking back tho. Best and thanks. Guinness ftw!
eole
about specific modules pages, could it be possible to show videos titles when videos aren't magnified ?

it could be a little less good looking, but way more easy to use, i think...
BrotherTheo
Hi,

I was wondering if you've considered adding 1U capabilities to Modular Grid. I ask because There are more cases coming out that have 1U space, as well as more 1U modules (tiles?).

--Brother Theo
solitud
eole wrote:
about specific modules pages, could it be possible to show videos titles when videos aren't magnified ?

it could be a little less good looking, but way more easy to use, i think...

Good idea, will think about a solution.
BrotherTheo wrote:

I was wondering if you've considered adding 1U capabilities to Modular Grid. I ask because There are more cases coming out that have 1U space, as well as more 1U modules (tiles?).

I can not mix different formats in one rack. It might be possible to introduce a discrete new "Tile" format, but I think this is not want people like to have.
For now there is only the workaround to add a padding to the tile graphics and upload them as standard euro modules like it's done with the many PulpLogic modules.
mypetrobot
So right now you can sort module search results by Newest, Alphabetic, Popular, and Price -- which is awesome. Would it be easy to add the additional sort parameter "Size?" It would definitely help streamline the results when used in conjunction with the "Max HP" parameter...
solitud
mypetrobot wrote:
So right now you can sort module search results by Newest, Alphabetic, Popular, and Price -- which is awesome. Would it be easy to add the additional sort parameter "Size?" It would definitely help streamline the results when used in conjunction with the "Max HP" parameter...

Should be not to hard, I put it on the list!
mypetrobot
solitud wrote:
mypetrobot wrote:
So right now you can sort module search results by Newest, Alphabetic, Popular, and Price -- which is awesome. Would it be easy to add the additional sort parameter "Size?" It would definitely help streamline the results when used in conjunction with the "Max HP" parameter...

Should be not to hard, I put it on the list!


That's great, thanks!
eole
applause
Mefistophelees
I've just rearranged my system and ModularGrid was something of a godsend.

I had "finished" 30U but I decided to refine it a bit and ended up buying a Shapeshifter and a second Invy.

In addition to this the PSU in one of the skiffs gets rather hot.

So basically I had to find space for a fairly hungry 26HP module while moving a module or 2 out of the skiff.

I had to find out the power ratings for all the modules - this is a lot more complicated than you might think. Some list +/- mA ratings. Some just give a single mA rating and some don't list anything!

To plan it I copied my main setup into a new rack and used it to play around to get a new layout.

I ended up having to move 25 modules, many only moved a few HP but it took quite a while - luckily I had some good music and a bottle of wine for company Mr. Green
solitud
Mefistophelees wrote:
I've just rearranged my system and ModularGrid was something of a godsend.

I had "finished" 30U but I decided to refine it a bit and ended up buying a Shapeshifter and a second Invy.

In addition to this the PSU in one of the skiffs gets rather hot.

So basically I had to find space for a fairly hungry 26HP module while moving a module or 2 out of the skiff.

I had to find out the power ratings for all the modules - this is a lot more complicated than you might think. Some list +/- mA ratings. Some just give a single mA rating and some don't list anything!

To plan it I copied my main setup into a new rack and used it to play around to get a new layout.

I ended up having to move 25 modules, many only moved a few HP but it took quite a while - luckily I had some good music and a bottle of wine for company Mr. Green

Glad, that you liked it. I hope you have added the missing mA ratings to the database wink
pigeonfarmboy
Just want to say your site has been such a useful tool for me getting into this! Big thanks!
solitud
pigeonfarmboy wrote:
Just want to say your site has been such a useful tool for me getting into this! Big thanks!

Thanks for kind words!
flocked
I love ModularGrid <3 I'm using it to plan my first eurorack.
Two suggestions:
- Reviews: It would be great, if there were text reviews… I find the stars reviews a bit mehh, because each module has between 4-5 stars grin
- Tips & Tricks: It would be awesome if we could post tips & tricks what someone can do with the module. - Maybe something like a wiki for each module would be great. smile
solitud
flocked wrote:
I love ModularGrid <3 I'm using it to plan my first eurorack.
Two suggestions:
- Reviews: It would be great, if there were text reviews… I find the stars reviews a bit mehh, because each module has between 4-5 stars grin

I tried to attach the stars with a tangible meaning like „A great Module with just some minor spots to improve.“.
Perhaps they are all really that good?
Nonetheless any module with a rating better than Ø 4.21 is considered to be above average.
flocked wrote:

- Tips & Tricks: It would be awesome if we could post tips & tricks what someone can do with the module. - Maybe something like a wiki for each module would be great. smile

Actually we have this already. Module Discussions is a heavily underused feature which could be used for Tip and Tricks.
Really, I don't want to create another overstructured deserted content area.
solitud
update on user request

Sort modules by size

mypetrobot wrote:
So right now you can sort module search results by Newest, Alphabetic, Popular, and Price -- which is awesome. Would it be easy to add the additional sort parameter "Size?"

Added new sort option "HP"

eole wrote:
about specific modules pages, could it be possible to show videos titles when videos aren't magnified ?

The video thumbs have generic titletags now. Your browser should show them on hover. This is a quickfix.
flocked
Okay smile

One more suggestion: While planing my first modular, I take many modules and place them next to the case. E.g. several oscs I like, because I can't decide which one i will buy. After reloading the page all the modules are at the bottom on an unorganized stack. I often need to drag many modules to the side to find module xy.
Wouldn't it be better to place the unused modules in a side-scrollable shelf/box or something like that?
solitud
flocked wrote:

Wouldn't it be better to place the unused modules in a side-scrollable shelf/box or something like that?

Maybe, but this will not work for everyone. I thought about it but had no idea where to position such a box. The way it works now is that you can simply drag/drop the modules in ANY direction.
Position of the "out of bounds" modules is not saved after reload. That is true and not optimal. This has something to do with that I only have one life wink
solitud
update
Clean up of the homepage.
It's now less noisy.
Also there is a new discussion index page, too.
http://modulargrid.net/e/discussions

Next update will be a Google+ integration which will be mandatory for everyone who wants to build a rack. razz
exper
solitud wrote:
update
Clean up of the homepage.
It's now less noisy.
Also there is a new discussion index page, too.
http://modulargrid.net/e/discussions

Next update will be a Google+ integration which will be mandatory for everyone who wants to build a rack. razz


You're kidding. What if I already have systems on modulargrid? I don't want to have yet another social media presence. I'm not part of google+ and I don't intend to be.
solitud
exper wrote:

You're kidding. What if I already have systems on modulargrid? I don't want to have yet another social media presence. I'm not part of google+ and I don't intend to be.

Of course this was a joke. I will never do this wink
exper
solitud wrote:
exper wrote:

You're kidding. What if I already have systems on modulargrid? I don't want to have yet another social media presence. I'm not part of google+ and I don't intend to be.

Of course this was a joke. I will never do this wink


Aha, you got me then. smile
solitud
Just wanted to test your bloodpressure. I was really annoyed about that Google+ comment integration on YouTube lately.
exper
Oh no, did they do it there? I'll have to complete my swap over to vimeo then.
solitud
Yep, they did it. You can only comment videos with a Google+ account.
buddard
I've noticed that I have two racks that I can't delete. I've tried both in the command center and on the racks' pages, but when I click on delete, nothing happens. Has anyone else seen this problem?
solitud
buddard wrote:
I've noticed that I have two racks that I can't delete. I've tried both in the command center and on the racks' pages, but when I click on delete, nothing happens. Has anyone else seen this problem?

Still problems? Can you PM me the rack numbers?
Nantonos
Now thet Roll Your Own (RYO) has three modules out in quick succession with more on the way, it would make sense to add them as a manufacturer rather than other/unknown.

http://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-rollyourown-optodist
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/grayscale-ryo-optodist-grayscale-panel
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-vertmix
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-ampmix
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/grayscale-ryo-vc-sequencer-grayscale-pane l
solitud
Nantonos wrote:
Now thet Roll Your Own (RYO) has three modules out in quick succession with more on the way, it would make sense to add them as a manufacturer rather than other/unknown.

True. Added them to the list and assigned the modules. Grayscale stays Grayscale, that's a special case.
Nantonos
Cool, thanks.
transistor logic
i am rediscovering modulargrid right now , using it for patch notation . very useful . nice improvements too . it runs very smoothly . thanks for your good work !
VanEck
Anyone else having issues with screenshots? Whenever I try to use that option, I am getting taken to an "image not found on this server" error. seriously, i just don't get it
solitud
VanEck wrote:
Anyone else having issues with screenshots? Whenever I try to use that option, I am getting taken to an "image not found on this server" error. seriously, i just don't get it

Thanks for the report, screenshot server crashed again, happens every couple weeks. Up again.
Reminder to myself: make this thing more robust.
VanEck
solitud wrote:
VanEck wrote:
Anyone else having issues with screenshots? Whenever I try to use that option, I am getting taken to an "image not found on this server" error. seriously, i just don't get it

Thanks for the report, screenshot server crashed again, happens every couple weeks. Up again.
Reminder to myself: make this thing more robust.


Awesome. Thanks! w00t
mypetrobot
Just a heads up: There is a typo for manufacturer "Cylonix." It is spelled with an extra "c" on the site ("Cyclonix").
evileye0702
I added a few new modules to my modular. Now when I try to sketch a patch, it shows my original modular without the new modules. Is this a know issue? Is there a workaround?
TheEngineer
Can I make a suggestion? Offer the ability to make multiple racks on one screen, so Say i want to design out a 9u and a skiff or something of the sort would be badass, or stack 6 9u's or whatever. Then be able to save it also...or even be able to combine racks. applause applause applause
Nuuj
Why isn't this a sticky as the other planner(s) aren't maintained anymore?

Also, someone should add the Ladik modules: http://www.ebay.com/usr/ladik_eu

https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=85031&start=all&post days=0&postorder=desc
solitud
mypetrobot wrote:
Just a heads up: There is a typo for manufacturer "Cylonix." It is spelled with an extra "c" on the site ("Cyclonix").

Thanks for reporting, fixed it.
solitud
evileye0702 wrote:
I added a few new modules to my modular. Now when I try to sketch a patch, it shows my original modular without the new modules. Is this a know issue? Is there a workaround?

It's a known issue and the workaround goes like this:
1. Go to “My Modular”
2. Click “Command Center”
3. Click “Update Screenshot Preview” in the Popover Menu of the corresponding Rack thumbnail
4. Go to your Patch
5. Hold the “Shift” Key on your keyboard and click the Browser Refresh button near your browsers addressbar.
haima
Nuuj wrote:
Why isn't this a sticky as the other planner(s) aren't maintained anymore?


+1
solitud
TheEngineer wrote:
Can I make a suggestion? Offer the ability to make multiple racks on one screen...

We had this already. It will not happen very soon because of technical mindfuck.
Nuuj wrote:
Why isn't this a sticky as the other planner(s) aren't maintained anymore?

Don't know how to do it, would appreciate it for sure!
Nuuj wrote:

Also, someone should add the Ladik modules

Done!
JohnLRice
Hi,

Thanks again for all your hard work on your excellent planner! thumbs up

I don't know if this has been suggested or discussed before (or already possible?) but i was thinking it would be nice if there was an option to hide the total rack cost from the public when a rack is listed as public. I know someone could just add up what is shown but . . seeing what the total cost was of my big system was, it made me uncomfortable to post it publicly . . . oops
solitud
JohnLRice wrote:

I don't know if this has been suggested or discussed before (or already possible?) but i was thinking it would be nice if there was an option to hide the total rack cost from the public when a rack is listed as public. I know someone could just add up what is shown but . . seeing what the total cost was of my big system was, it made me uncomfortable to post it publicly . . . oops

What about naming your rack "JLRs fantasy dream system" hihi
For the therapeutical effect I don't like the idea to disguise the prices but may be I implement a "wife mode" which divides prices by 8.
Vsyevolod
Wife mode!!!!!

FTW!!!!

Stephen




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VanEck
Can't believe this thread isn't stickied yet...
solitud
ModularGrid is going offline for maintenance tomorrow on Monday, 20th.
rydan
By the way, is there any way to see remaining space (or used up space) per row? Would be rather handy...
Nantonos
Why is a current draw of zero mA suppressed? There is a big difference between a module which is known to draw 0mA on -12V (becauuse it uses a unipolar power supply derived from +12V) and a module where the current draw is unknown or has not been added. Currently the only way to tell the difference is to edit that module (not changing anything, just to see the value).
solitud
ModularGrid is moving to a new server. It might take some hours to propagate the DNS entries.
In the meantime you can play an exciting round of MemoModule.
(Browse to modulargrid.net, you will see).
If you do not see any MemoModule, even better, it means that Modulargrid.net is online again.
antonius
solitud wrote:
ModularGrid is moving to a new server. It might take some hours to propagate the DNS entries.
In the meantime you can play an exciting round of MemoModule.
(Browse to modulargrid.net, you will see).
If you do not see any MemoModule, even better, it means that Modulargrid.net is online again.


Will MemoModule become a permanent part of the site? It's a nice distraction from designing systems that I can't afford
solitud
antonius wrote:

Will MemoModule become a permanent part of the site? It's a nice distraction from designing systems that I can't afford

I leave it on the site for some while until wigglers will start to request improvements. If that happens I delete it immediately wink
mypetrobot
Vsyevolod wrote:
Wife mode!!!!!


Enable "wife mode" by creating a javascript "bookmarklet" with the following:

javascript:(function(){document.getElementById("totalprice").innerHTML ="I%20love%20my%20wife";})();
solitud
mypetrobot wrote:


Enable "wife mode" by creating a javascript "bookmarklet" with the following:

javascript:(function(){document.getElementById("totalprice").innerHTML ="I%20love%20my%20wife";})();

Evil Hackerz! If the damn site crashes I know who to blame!
solitud
Btw.: ModularGrid moved to a new server.
Don't know if that affects performance for good or worse.
If anyone discovers issues, please report.
mypetrobot
If you simply want to make your rack appear less valuable, this bookmarklet is an alternate to "wife mode" :

javascript:(function(){var%20rackvalue=document.getElementById("totalp rice").innerHTML;rackvalue=rackvalue.replace(/\$|,/g,'');var%20cheapen =(parseInt(rackvalue)/10);document.getElementById("totalprice").innerH TML="$"+cheapen;})();
Mefistophelees
OK, a feature request:

There's a couple of things annoy me when using Modulargrid. These probably aren't an issue on small systems but in a big Eurorack system they can be a bit annoying. They are both to do with how modules get moved:

1) If I've moved a module and I go to place it. If it is even slightly over a module in the row above or below, the module in the row above or below is always moved.

Could it be modified so if a module is only slightly over a module on the rows above or below, it ignores it?

2) The second thing is where modules are moved to.
If I move a module over another the one that is replaced is moved to the top left most free space. I typically only want to move it a little bit.

Could it be modified so the module replaced is moved to the closest space on the same row?
Adamalthus
Another feature request - apologies in advance if it's been requested before.

I'd like to see a 'Library' feature. This would let me create a library/collection of the modules I own without having to stick them in a rack. Then when I'm laying out a rack I can choose modules from my own library. This way I can experiment with different rack/case layouts and sizes without the hassle of paging though each if the manufacturers pages every time.

Thanks we're not worthy
Soundifferent
Modular grid is a great site. Congrats!

Ps. Would it be possible to add a "happy ending kit" rack style? Would be very. Nice... Thx It's peanut butter jelly time!
solitud
Mefistophelees wrote:

1) If I've moved a module and I go to place it. If it is even slightly over a module in the row above or below, the module in the row above or below is always moved.

Could it be modified so if a module is only slightly over a module on the rows above or below, it ignores it?

2) The second thing is where modules are moved to.
If I move a module over another the one that is replaced is moved to the top left most free space. I typically only want to move it a little bit.

Could it be modified so the module replaced is moved to the closest space on the same row?


These would be useful improvements for sure. I will put them on my never ending to do list.
Adamalthus wrote:
I'd like to see a 'Library' feature.

A Library for the Library. This won't come, except other wigglers chime in ...
Soundifferent wrote:
Ps. Would it be possible to add a "happy ending kit" rack style? Would be very. Nice... Thx It's peanut butter jelly time!

As always: I need good images to do this. Someone has to provide these.
mypetrobot
Adamalthus wrote:
Another feature request - apologies in advance if it's been requested before.

I'd like to see a 'Library' feature. This would let me create a library/collection of the modules I own without having to stick them in a rack. Then when I'm laying out a rack I can choose modules from my own library. This way I can experiment with different rack/case layouts and sizes without the hassle of paging though each if the manufacturers pages every time.

Thanks we're not worthy


Couldn't you just create a "Library" rack and duplicate/re-size it when experimenting with alternate configurations? I guess this only helps workflow when you're only dealing with less than 30 modules or so.

Edit: For clarification, create a large rack with all of your modules, then resize it to add additional rows representing the new system. Treat the already populated rows as your "library."
duff
solitud wrote:

Adamalthus wrote:
I'd like to see a 'Library' feature.

A Library for the Library. This won't come, except other wigglers chime in ...


+1 for this idea then
Mefistophelees
mypetrobot wrote:

Couldn't you just create a "Library" rack and duplicate/re-size it when experimenting with alternate configurations? I guess this only helps workflow when you're only dealing with less than 30 modules or so.


This is what I do.

I have a main rack which is my system as it is now.
If I want to experiment I just create a duplicate and mess around with it.
If I'm not happy I can delete it and just duplicate the original again.
If you've got a big system this is an absolute god send.

BTW If you thinking of different modules add another spare row or 2 at the bottom.
I'm currently planning a new 9U system and am looking at various different modules (more then will fit in 9U). The spare rows let me try out different combinations without having to delete modules.
zombieFredrik
Modulargrid is my goto planner, it rocks. And I'm sorry if this been up before.
But I'd really like a "move module to rack"-function.
Right now I have all my cases in one gigantic rack in MG as I try to reorganize.
And it would be awesome to be able to actually have the right cases with the right sizes and then move the modules between them.
I don't mind switching back and forth between racks. (I have 50+ modules atm).

With that said. The "library"-approach might work for me too, so +1 on that.
evileye0702
I'd love to see the library feature too as well as support for more case designs. If all that is more pictures, I bet we can come up with some. The trickier part has to be placing modules at an angle.
flocked
Two ideas I just had:

- It would be great, if you add a manual tag for the modules. I would love to see links to the pdf manual. Would be very useful.

- A faceplate system for modules:
There are many modules with different faceplates: some modules have reverse faceplates (intellijel planar), then there are whole series of faceplates like the grayscale series, there are different color options (er-101), different knobs (make noise changed there knobs) and so on…
Each of these have currently several entries, even if they are they are exactly the same module.
It would be great, if you could link several designs to one module and that the search is only showing the official one. Then if you select the module, you can also choose the design.
SamUK
Is there an API of any description? I'm looking for a way to download an XML or JSON version of a rack.

(Thanks for the great website!)
flocked
Yep, an api would be awesome <3
solitud
Every new button, every new function makes the interface more noisy and complicated and always introduces new potential bugs.
I don't want ModularGrid become the Microsoft Word of Modular planners, so I am not overexcited to implement EVERY possible feature, but if something useful is missing and easy enough to do I am all in.
You guys have all different needs and I am not able to please you all so for the features that are missing I try at least to provide a workaround or compromise.

Mefistophelees wrote:

This is what I do.

I have a main rack which is my system as it is now.
If I want to experiment I just create a duplicate and mess around with it.
If I'm not happy I can delete it and just duplicate the original again.
If you've got a big system this is an absolute god send.

BTW If you thinking of different modules add another spare row or 2 at the bottom.
I'm currently planning a new 9U system and am looking at various different modules (more then will fit in 9U). The spare rows let me try out different combinations without having to delete modules.

This is a perfect example of a workaround. I do this, too.

zombieFredrik wrote:
But I'd really like a "move module to rack"-function.

What about a module copy/paste function? Like: Hover over a module, press c on keyboard, switch to other rack, press v. Would this be sufficient?

flocked wrote:
Two ideas I just had:

- It would be great, if you add a manual tag for the modules. I would love to see links to the pdf manual. Would be very useful.

This might come soon.

flocked wrote:

- A faceplate system for modules:

Was requested several times and I would like to to it, but it's complicated, because I have to change quite a lot of the database structure.
I had this feature not on my list when I did the first database modeling, which really annoys me since then. One day it will happen ...

SamUK wrote:
Is there an API of any description? I'm looking for a way to download an XML or JSON version of a rack.

Possible. Although a full blown API is a lot to do. What do you want to do exactly?
SamUK
solitud wrote:
SamUK wrote:
Is there an API of any description? I'm looking for a way to download an XML or JSON version of a rack.

Possible. Although a full blown API is a lot to do. What do you want to do exactly?

I just want to be able to download a data structure describing a rack, what module is on what row and where on the row. Plus the module metadata, name, picture, hp, power, etc.

I'm only looking for read only access, frankly I'd take it in whatever form you can give it in, either a monolithic JSON/XML file for a rack, or as a bunch of endpoints for each entity. I'm also happy for it to be a beta or 'unofficial' API, i.e. you can change it whenever you like.
solitud
SamUK wrote:
solitud wrote:
SamUK wrote:
Is there an API of any description? I'm looking for a way to download an XML or JSON version of a rack.

Possible. Although a full blown API is a lot to do. What do you want to do exactly?

I just want to be able to download a data structure describing a rack, what module is on what row and where on the row. Plus the module metadata, name, picture, hp, power, etc.

I'm only looking for read only access, frankly I'd take it in whatever form you can give it in, either a monolithic JSON/XML file for a rack, or as a bunch of endpoints for each entity. I'm also happy for it to be a beta or 'unofficial' API, i.e. you can change it whenever you like.

pmed for API info.
SamUK
solitud wrote:
pmed for API info.

Thanks, hope it wasn't too hard to add. I'll see if I can have a play this weekend.
solitud
SamUK wrote:
solitud wrote:
pmed for API info.

Thanks, hope it wasn't too hard to add.

Sure not. If the API is of no use I am not shy to delete it again, I do this all the time like a construction worker and Miley in one person hihi
flx
Could it be that the racks on MG stopped being editable on the iPad in Safari? I can't seem to drag modules around anymore (it just scrolls the page), but I'm still logged in and can add modules. This morning I could still arrange modules hmmm.....
Soundifferent
flx wrote:
Could it be that the racks on MG stopped being editable on the iPad in Safari? I can't seem to drag modules around anymore (it just scrolls the page), but I'm still logged in and can add modules. This morning I could still arrange modules hmmm.....


Same here! woah
botstein
Could we get an "Expander" tag and category? This way, it would be easier to find expanders, regardless of their size. The original A Sound of Thunder is tiny, like a lot of expander modules, but some, like Galilean Moons are huge, bigger than the original module.
solitud
flx wrote:
Could it be that the racks on MG stopped being editable on the iPad in Safari? I can't seem to drag modules around anymore (it just scrolls the page), but I'm still logged in and can add modules. This morning I could still arrange modules hmmm.....

Soundifferent wrote:

Same here! woah


Aargh, I did some "optimizations" which probably have broke something. I will check.

botstein wrote:
Could we get an "Expander" tag and category? This way, it would be easier to find expanders, regardless of their size. The original A Sound of Thunder is tiny, like a lot of expander modules, but some, like Galilean Moons are huge, bigger than the original module.

O.K. might be useful, it's in
solitud
1. Racks are editable on iPads again
2. Added the Expander tag yesterday to my test system, now it's also on the production server. d'oh!
evileye0702
Thanks for all the hard work.
njdoyle
Somewhere in these 80 pages this may have already been asked but here are a few things I've felt using modulargrid.

Is there a way to do negative filtering of modules?

I would like a way to search for some set of modules but exclude any modules by a particular vendor ("Other/unknown" or "Greyscale" for example).

Similarly, it would be cool to be able to search for all modules that are made by some set of vendors. (I would make a list of vendors available at my local(ish) retailer).

There seems to be a ton of "Upsidedown" modules. It would be cool to just be able to rotate the canonical module in your rack instead of having these variations pollute the global module set.
solitud
njdoyle wrote:
Somewhere in these 80 pages this may have already been asked but here are a few things I've felt using modulargrid.

Is there a way to do negative filtering of modules?

I would like a way to search for some set of modules but exclude any modules by a particular vendor ("Other/unknown" or "Greyscale" for example).

Similarly, it would be cool to be able to search for all modules that are made by some set of vendors. (I would make a list of vendors available at my local(ish) retailer).

No, it is not possible to do such things at the current project status.
I understand how useful this kind of special "expert" queries might be, but I always tend to keep things simple, especially interface wise.
njdoyle wrote:

There seems to be a ton of "Upsidedown" modules. It would be cool to just be able to rotate the canonical module in your rack instead of having these variations pollute the global module set.

Please enlighten me someone why people have to upsidedown there modules??
I will flag those modules as private.
njdoyle
solitud wrote:
Please enlighten me someone why people have to upsidedown there modules??
I will flag those modules as private.


People upside down modules usually for tactile reasons. Often you'll see joysticks upside down so the joystick is on the bottom and the jacks are on the top and out of the way. I've seen other upside down modules, like Maths, at other times; usually the reason is similar.
Nantonos
I edited a rack to change 84HP to 104HP (because my actual physical rack is having the same editing steps done, although that takes longer) and now, after rearranging the modules, have a couple of problems. When I load the rack, one of the modules is on top of another one. I can drag it back to where it should be, but next time its back in the overlap position again. Also, adding a new module adds it on top of that same module. I suspect that module is at the 'just past 84HP' point.
solitud
njdoyle wrote:

People upside down modules usually for tactile reasons. Often you'll see joysticks upside down so the joystick is on the bottom and the jacks are on the top and out of the way. I've seen other upside down modules, like Maths, at other times; usually the reason is similar.

I see ..
Nantonos wrote:
I edited a rack to change 84HP to 104HP (because my actual physical rack is having the same editing steps done, although that takes longer) and now, after rearranging the modules, have a couple of problems. When I load the rack, one of the modules is on top of another one. I can drag it back to where it should be, but next time its back in the overlap position again. Also, adding a new module adds it on top of that same module. I suspect that module is at the 'just past 84HP' point.

If it's a public rack, can you give me the rackId ?
edit: also browser version would help
Nantonos
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/30175

Its not doing it now confused. Yesterday the spring thing kept sitting on top of the noise source.
Firefox 28.0 beta, Win7.
solitud
Nantonos wrote:
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/30175

Its not doing it now confused. Yesterday the spring thing kept sitting on top of the noise source.
Firefox 28.0 beta, Win7.

Mhh, I can not find any issues. Tested on Chrome and FF. I can drag any module and they snap in places like they should.
I know, it sounds like IT crowd, but try to empty the browser cache. I did some JS changes the last days...
Also it's possible to move modules around with the cursors end ENTER, sometimes this is more precise than fiddeling with the mouse.
Tell me if that won't help.

P.S.
Firefox 28, Jesus, they are moving fast! The last time I opened this browser it was Version 14 smile
a scanner darkly
Instead of "expert" search how about adding a second drop down for the function, so using only one still works as before but if the function is selected in both it means "modules that have function1 AND function2"? This way you could search for something that is both a filter and a VCA, or any dual filters. That should cover most of the cases for more complex search without overcomplicating the interface.
solitud
a scanner darkly wrote:
Instead of "expert" search how about adding a second drop down for the function, so using only one still works as before but if the function is selected in both it means "modules that have function1 AND function2"? This way you could search for something that is both a filter and a VCA, or any dual filters. That should cover most of the cases for more complex search without overcomplicating the interface.

True, this is possible, but it would still not have the "NOT Other/unknown" functionality that @njdoyle requested. People seem to have different thoughts about an advanced search. I am pretty sure I will be quite occupied with an everyone pleasing solution wink
But I see there is a demand for a more in depth search in general, I will put it on the todo list.
a scanner darkly
This could be a small change that would cover most requirements though. Personally I find that what I need most is to search for modules that do 2 specific functions. And it aligns with the existing functionality since all the search criteria are already combined using AND. But yeah, maybe it's better to just implement something that would cover any possible combination.
flx
Thanks for fixing editing on the iPad thumbs up I just noticed that you can't seem to enter module URLs with Umlauts "äöü.." anymore. While it's definitely uncommon (and probably also unpractical) to have URLs like that, it was possible before. The URL was displayed a little scrambled but it worked when clicking on it. Example here: http://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-klangbau-roehren-vca-tube-v ca
Nantonos
flx wrote:
Thanks for fixing editing on the iPad thumbs up I just noticed that you can't seem to enter module URLs with Umlauts "äöü.." anymore. While it's definitely uncommon (and probably also unpractical) to have URLs like that, it was possible before. The URL was displayed a little scrambled but it worked when clicking on it. Example here: http://www.modulargrid.net/e/other-unknown-klangbau-roehren-vca-tube-v ca


This should be possible. The web architecture supports it and browsers mostly support it (displaying an IRI scrambled is a bug in that browser). Some sites however fail to support such things.

I can partly sympathize with people getting all precious over "I can't type μVCF" but there are solutions in place to alias that to uVCF so the non-ascii-challenged can still get there while still letting the actual name be searched for. The one you cite actually needs two aliases for Klangbau Röhren; Klangbau Roehren for people who know the convention when omitting umlauts in German and Klangbau Rohren for people who wrongly assume that all accents are useless decoration that can be simply omitted.

I have no sympathy at all for people who want to force everyone to use ascii only.
flx
Sorry, I actually meant the manufacturer/module URL on the modules page (above the module's depth), not the ModularGrid URL to a module. The latter seems to work fine (substituting ö with oe).
solitud
flx wrote:
Sorry, I actually meant the manufacturer/module URL on the modules page (above the module's depth), not the ModularGrid URL to a module. The latter seems to work fine (substituting ö with oe).


www.xn--klangbaukln-zfb.de is the formal correct unicode to ascii encoding for www.klangbauköln.de.

This is called "Punycode" as I learned today.
Funny thing is, that it happens automatically if you copy an Umlaut-domain from the Browser addressbar (Chrome, FF) to the clipboard (OS X).
Seems that also the browser developers distrust the character encoding conventions and want to intercept it at an very early stage (you copy/pasting URLs) smile

In general I am with Nantonos, but must admit that I sometimes still have hard times in dealing with specialchars. The URL encoding on ModularGrid ( .../other-unknown-klangbau-roehren-vca) happens automatically through an underlying function (Inflector::slug) of the PHP framework I use. Those developers where shy to use unicode in the URLs, too.
flx
I'm really sorry for not communicating properly today!!! Dead Banana What I actually meant is that when I tried to edit a module and enter a module/manufacturer URL with an Umlaut, it tells me to enter a "valid url" and marks the text field red. I don't mind Punycode or the conversion of Umlauts. And I don't even mind if you don't want Umlauts in module URLs, it just worked recently and didn't work earlier today, so I thought I'd let you know.
solitud
flx wrote:
I'm really sorry for not communicating properly today!!! Dead Banana What I actually meant is that when I tried to edit a module and enter a module/manufacturer URL with an Umlaut, it tells me to enter a "valid url" and marks the text field red. I don't mind Punycode or the conversion of Umlauts. And I don't even mind if you don't want Umlauts in module URLs, it just worked recently and didn't work earlier today, so I thought I'd let you know.

Ah, lost in translation.
I see. If this has ever worked I broke it at least 8 months ago confused
flx
solitud wrote:

Ah, lost in translation.
I see. If this has ever worked I broke it at least 8 months ago confused

It has worked about two weeks ago, when that Röhren VCA Module was added. But yeah, as I said. No big deal if it doesn't get fixed.
solitud
flx wrote:

It has worked about two weeks ago, when that Röhren VCA Module was added. But yeah, as I said. No big deal if it doesn't get fixed.

The miracles of digital processing. I will fix it when I found it..
Nantonos
solitud wrote:

www.xn--klangbaukln-zfb.de is the formal correct unicode to ascii encoding for www.klangbauköln.de.

This is called "Punycode" as I learned today.
Funny thing is, that it happens automatically


Yes, the conversion from a Unicode address (IRI) to an ASCII one (URI) happens automatically with those network protocols that are ASCII-only (such as HTTP). For most of the URI, %hex encoding is used except for the domain name which uses Punycode.

The user should not see the Punycode form (but the browser should still work if someone pastes the Punycode form into the address bar).

solitud wrote:
Seems that also the browser developers distrust the character encoding conventions and want to intercept it at an very early stage (you copy/pasting URLs) smile

They are however incorrect to do that.

Sheesh, enough work-like stuff, back to modular synths.
Mefistophelees
Something seems to be broken at the minute.

I added a new rack but it flatly refuses to create an image in the command centre.

Also, the screenshot function draws a screenshot but only of an old version. If you move modules it doesn't update the image produced.

Edit: If I try to do a screenshot of the new rack it generates an error.

Cheers.
solitud
Mefistophelees wrote:
Something seems to be broken at the minute.

I added a new rack but it flatly refuses to create an image in the command centre.

Also, the screenshot function draws a screenshot but only of an old version. If you move modules it doesn't update the image produced.

Edit: If I try to do a screenshot of the new rack it generates an error.

Cheers.

Thanks for reporting. Should be working again.
ronaldroy
Sorry if this has been mentioned/requested before - I didn't feel like reading 80+ pages ... any chance of being able to sort modules by price (low to high)?
solitud
ronaldroy wrote:
Sorry if this has been mentioned/requested before - I didn't feel like reading 80+ pages ... any chance of being able to sort modules by price (low to high)?

You already found out that you can sort by price high to low ...
Revert search order, I put it to the to do list.
ronaldroy
Should've given you a compliment sandwich ... website is great of course and I use it all the time since I have begun my journey. Looks like a major undertaking - CONGRATULATIONS!
solitud
Added "DIY" as option for the tags in the function dropdown.
I know DIY is not a function but it seems like an easy compromise to let wigglers search for their next kits to build.
So if any of you guys have some time it would be great to help with the tagging.
Mefistophelees
Is it possible to have systems to get wider than 200HP?

My system has grown and it's now 3 x 84HP wide...

Also a related suggestion that might solve a problem for you:

How about adding "lockable" blank panels?
These would be like normal blind panels but with an option to lock them into place so you can't just move them around.

These would be useful for dividing up large systems.
packrat
Is there any opportunity to have dragged modules aggressively prefer to drop into empty space rather than displacing other things? Having to fetch the bumped module back is a little frustrating on larger rack layouts.
kisielk
packrat wrote:
Is there any opportunity to have dragged modules aggressively prefer to drop into empty space rather than displacing other things? Having to fetch the bumped module back is a little frustrating on larger rack layouts.


This, please. Most of the time I don't want to bump modules out of the rack, but occasionally due to dropping a module a few pixels off from where I wanted it to go my existing layout starts getting wrecked. I think the default should be modules stay in place and if you drop something on one it should just go in the next available empty spot, or even just outside the rack.
radiokoala
What about 'new rack from template' option? I'm always adding the same modules at the start and then go on from there smile
kisielk
radiokoala wrote:
What about 'new rack from template' option? I'm always adding the same modules at the start and then go on from there smile


You can already duplicate racks. Just build a template rack and then duplicate it whenever you want to start a new one.
sloth713
Is anybody else that uses firefox having trouble getting the youtube videos to load/play on the module description pages?
solitud
Mefistophelees wrote:
Is it possible to have systems to get wider than 200HP?

My system has grown and it's now 3 x 84HP wide...

Also a related suggestion that might solve a problem for you:

How about adding "lockable" blank panels?
These would be like normal blind panels but with an option to lock them into place so you can't just move them around.

These would be useful for dividing up large systems.

As I understand you want to edit systems in parallel? I am thinking about a solution to cut, copy, paste modules between browser windows, if this might help...
packrat wrote:
Is there any opportunity to have dragged modules aggressively prefer to drop into empty space rather than displacing other things? Having to fetch the bumped module back is a little frustrating on larger rack layouts.

Not easy to do, the system can not predict if you want to replace a module or just looking for the next empty spot. Perhaps it will help to implement a kind of looser collision detection with a higher threshold so you do not have to drag pixelprecise.
Also positioning with the keyboard shortcuts sometimes helps.
sloth713 wrote:
Is anybody else that uses firefox having trouble getting the youtube videos to load/play on the module description pages?

This works at least in Firefox 27.0.1 and Firefox 28.0 on OS X
sloth713
Thanks for your quick response solitud. It was working two weeks ago and I have Firefox 27.0.1 running on Windows 7 ( I have not performed any Firefox updates in this time period) but now every time I click on the video link the box expands to player size but nothing in ever loaded. Here is a picture. Do you have any idea of the cause? If not no worries.
solitud
sloth713 wrote:
Thanks for your quick response solitud. It was working two weeks ago and I have Firefox 27.0.1 running on Windows 7 ( I have not performed any Firefox updates in this time period) but now every time I click on the video link the box expands to player size but nothing in ever loaded. Here is a picture. Do you have any idea of the cause? If not no worries.

Mhh, I have tested it Win 7/FF 27.0.1, works here.
Only thing I see in your screenshot is this "Lego" plugin icon before the addressbar. My FF does not show this.
Flash should not be needed for the videos, all HTML5, but perhaps some kind of video codec is missing? Does someone else experience this too?
Mefistophelees
solitud wrote:
Mefistophelees wrote:
Is it possible to have systems to get wider than 200HP?

My system has grown and it's now 3 x 84HP wide...

Also a related suggestion that might solve a problem for you:

How about adding "lockable" blank panels?
These would be like normal blind panels but with an option to lock them into place so you can't just move them around.

These would be useful for dividing up large systems.


As I understand you want to edit systems in parallel?


No. I just want the limit raised to 300HP so I can edit a really wide system.

As for the lockable panels, have a look at this system.
I've added a few black panels down the middle to divide it up. I'd like to be able to lock these into place so I can't delete or move them.
It's not a big deal but it'd be useful.

Quote:
I am thinking about a solution to cut, copy, paste modules between browser windows, if this might help...


Hadn't though of that. Interesting idea.

Quote:
packrat wrote:
Is there any opportunity to have dragged modules aggressively prefer to drop into empty space rather than displacing other things? Having to fetch the bumped module back is a little frustrating on larger rack layouts.


Not easy to do, the system can not predict if you want to replace a module or just looking for the next empty spot. Perhaps it will help to implement a kind of looser collision detection with a higher threshold so you do not have to drag pixelprecise.


The problem is if the module is even slightly out the system thinks you want to move a different module.
Could you look at the mouse/cursor position and swap the module underneath it?

Also, it'd be good to move the module being replaced, to the closest available position. They currently go the the top left most free position.


BTW Thanks for all this effort, it really is an excellent tool.
solitud
Protip for those of you guys with a multi rack setup:
Open your racks in several browser windows, hover above a module and use the new keyboard shortcuts c,v,x to copy, paste and cut modules from one browser window to the other.
Sargon
With the increasing popularity in the 1U "tile" format, a feature I'm sure a lot of people would like would be an option to add a 1U row to their racks or to build a 1U set using the PulpLogic bracket. Although I can do the latter with 15 minutes of Photoshopping, I'm sure some tile love would be much appreciated.

This is an invaluable website, by the way hihi
packrat
I have noticed that wiggling a module from side to side a few times resets most of the spurious 1-pixel overlaps with modules above and below (there seems to be some hysteresis there), so that would be nicer behaviour to have on initial drag.

Perhaps a better signal for deducing replacement intent is to require the centroid of the replaced module to be covered by the new one. This would avoid the situation of single-pixel overlaps up or down.

B>

ps. Copy and pasting. Awesome. Now with multiple modules grin
Randy
There are two things I wouldn't mind having. I'd like to be able to indicate that I have purchased a module. Since I'm building up a system based on my design, it would be cool to be able to somehow flag the modules in my rack as having been purchased.

The other is adding custom panels. I may end up designing custom panels for my own use that might not be applicable to anyone else so I'm wondering if there is a way to include a "private" panel.

No big deal for either of these of course, just curious.

Randy
DerHeinrich
Am I the only one experiencing downtime?
My browser can't connect to modulargrid.net...
Most inconvenient... right on the day I planned to put my system back together again after an international moving.... cry
loopt
DerHeinrich wrote:
Am I the only one experiencing downtime?
My browser can't connect to modulargrid.net...

Same here.
May be just temporary, let's wait and see.
koyl
Same here too.
Good thing I took some screen captures of the system I'm currently planning.
packrat
About that copying and pasting. I discovered to my horror that it is not possible to paste a module into a brand new blank rack. You need to add a module in the regular way first. Fortunateyl,

It would be really nice if there was an undo stack. It also be nice to have some sort of change history, as well as an interface to grab and upload some sort of simple format (even icky xml) that captured the rack layout, allowed offline editing and backups, and then re-uploading.

B>
HIMA
the grid being offline makes me realise how much i love it. i miss it. waah
daluxer
same here. bring it back woah
DerHeinrich
very frustrating very frustrating very frustrating very frustrating very frustrating


EDIT: And it's baaaaack! Guinness ftw!
daluxer
Another attack?
tsunamisucks
finally i can go sleep! It's peanut butter jelly time! It's peanut butter jelly time! It's peanut butter jelly time! nanners nanners sad banana Dead Banana Dead Banana
solitud
Not sure if someone is doing something evil or the new server instance simply sucks.
Sorry guys for the poor performance in the last days, I keep an eye on it.
daluxer
No problem. Im just notifying in case someones attacking.
solitud
daluxer wrote:
No problem. Im just notifying in case someones attacking.

Thanks, "attacking" always sounds very dramatic but it is true that there are a lot of scans for open ports and known vulnerabilities in open source software recently.
I don't think they are targeting the ModularGrid specifically, just someone who wants to build up a large zombie stack.
solitud
Randy wrote:
There are two things I wouldn't mind having. ...

The other is adding custom panels. I may end up designing custom panels for my own use that might not be applicable to anyone else so I'm wondering if there is a way to include a "private" panel.


This should be working, upload modules and flag them as "private"

packrat wrote:
About that copying and pasting. I discovered to my horror that it is not possible to paste a module into a brand new blank rack. You need to add a module in the regular way first.

This is fixed, thanks for reporting.
jonkull
I can't seem to delete modules on iOS anymore. Selecting a module makes the trash icon appear but it disappears very quickly and can't be pressed. Anyone else having this issue or is it just me?
exper
jonkull wrote:
I can't seem to delete modules on iOS anymore. Selecting a module makes the trash icon appear but it disappears very quickly and can't be pressed. Anyone else having this issue or is it just me?


Same here.
listentoaheartbeat
exper wrote:
jonkull wrote:
I can't seem to delete modules on iOS anymore. Selecting a module makes the trash icon appear but it disappears very quickly and can't be pressed. Anyone else having this issue or is it just me?


Same here.


Getting the same with iOS 7.1.
solitud
Edit buttons for iOS are back.
Jaspo
I always seem to miss features already in place .... but

Could you have a pop-up show the available space of a hole when it passes over? And yes, this could be a set up for a few jokes.

Also it would be nice if you move the mouse over a row, but outside the rack, a pop-up shows the used/available space for that row.
Ginko
Jaspo wrote:
I always seem to miss features already in place .... but

Could you have a pop-up show the available space of a hole when it passes over? And yes, this could be a set up for a few jokes.

Also it would be nice if you move the mouse over a row, but outside the rack, a pop-up shows the used/available space for that row.


I was thinking exactly the same thing today, this would be good
eole
yes ! i already had the same idea too smile
Excerpt
Doesn't matter how many there are, I like them all.
kisielk
Is it possible to look up someone by username on ModularGrid? I can't seem to find it anywhere. A friend sent me a link to his rack a long time back but I lost it, if I could find him by username I'd be able to look it up again.
solitud
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/users
packrat
kisielk wrote:
Is it possible to look up someone by username on ModularGrid? I can't seem to find it anywhere. A friend sent me a link to his rack a long time back but I lost it, if I could find him by username I'd be able to look it up again.


if you do a google search for something like

site:modulargrid.net packrat

where packrat is my username, you'll pick up a bunch of listings for modules in racks owned by that person which you can click through. The user pages themselves seem to be robots.txt walled off.

B>
packrat
Yikes. I've just run off the end of what can be planned with modulargrid, at least I can't afford to have a spare row for modules sitting around unracked anymore :(

A couple of requests.

1. Could the max rack size be increased? (width and rows)

and not unrelatedly:

2. Would it be possible to download and upload the rack in some fairly easy-to-read textual format so that when, e.g. moving whole rows around, this could be done via a simple script rather than a lot of tedious arrow work?

2a. An API so people could write utilities for others to use would be even better.

B>

http://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/96352
solitud
packrat wrote:
Yikes. I've just run off the end of what can be planned with modulargrid, at least I can't afford to have a spare row for modules sitting around unracked anymore :(

A couple of requests.

1. Could the max rack size be increased? (width and rows)

and not unrelatedly:

2. Would it be possible to download and upload the rack in some fairly easy-to-read textual format so that when, e.g. moving whole rows around, this could be done via a simple script rather than a lot of tedious arrow work?

Upload of "textual formats" will not come. Too much effort, too much special interest.

packrat wrote:


2a. An API so people could write utilities for others to use would be even better.

B>

http://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/96352


This is already there in some basic way. Append a ".json" postfix to the rack url like
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/96352.json

Instant downloadedable textual format which can also be processed by a REST api.
packrat
The json is perfect, but it would e great if it could be transformed and then put back. No chance of even a very limited API there? Even with offer of code?

B>
solitud
packrat wrote:
The json is perfect, but it would e great if it could be transformed and then put back. No chance of even a very limited API there? Even with offer of code?

B>

I bet there will be less then 1% mg users who will make use of this.
I understand if you are frustrated with some lacking features in the planner but honestly my time would be better invested to improve the planner than to add an additional function to bypass the problems (and probably introduce new bugs).
I am also not satisfied how the planner works and I am aware of the many issues on my ever growing to do list.
So I just have to prioritize things.
Daisuk
Man, I love Modulargrid - the only thing I don't understand is that there are so few comments on the modules there! Would be practical if people used it as Vintagesynth and left their mini-review of the different modules on the site.
apfEID
I've only read the last few pages so I don't know if this has already been covered / dismissed / put on the list for the future, or maybe it exists and I didn't notice, but...

Every time I start a new rack I wish I could pull up a list of just the modules I own already and arrange those.

Is it possible to allow registered users to keep track of their currently owned modules with modulargrid?
n_m
MG is very slow for me at the moment. Anyone else experiencing the same?
eole
apfEID wrote:
I've only read the last few pages so I don't know if this has already been covered / dismissed / put on the list for the future, or maybe it exists and I didn't notice, but...

Every time I start a new rack I wish I could pull up a list of just the modules I own already and arrange those.

Is it possible to allow registered users to keep track of their currently owned modules with modulargrid?


you can duplicate racks...
quite the same thing, no ? smile
mheumann
n_m wrote:
MG is very slow for me at the moment. Anyone else experiencing the same?


Very slow for me as well.
apfEID
eole wrote:
apfEID wrote:
I've only read the last few pages so I don't know if this has already been covered / dismissed / put on the list for the future, or maybe it exists and I didn't notice, but...

Every time I start a new rack I wish I could pull up a list of just the modules I own already and arrange those.

Is it possible to allow registered users to keep track of their currently owned modules with modulargrid?


you can duplicate racks...
quite the same thing, no ? smile


Not quite, but it's a good work around!
solitud
Daisuk wrote:
Man, I love Modulargrid - the only thing I don't understand is that there are so few comments on the modules there! Would be practical if people used it as Vintagesynth and left their mini-review of the different modules on the site.

I agree and encourage everyone to do so.

apfEID wrote:

Every time I start a new rack I wish I could pull up a list of just the modules I own already and arrange those.
Is it possible to allow registered users to keep track of their currently owned modules with modulargrid?

Nice idea, may be this will be possible in future.
In the mean time use the "copy rack" workaround.
n_m wrote:
MG is very slow for me at the moment. Anyone else experiencing the same?

Sorry for random slowness. I am not sure whats happening.
ModularGrid has no dedicated server so I suspect someone is harvesting his bitcoins from time to time on an other instance of the server.
daluxer
It'd be cool to group move modules.

Maybe by ctrl+click and then dragging all the selected ones? Is something similar already implemented?

Thanks!
solitud
daluxer wrote:
It'd be cool to group move modules.

Maybe by ctrl+click and then dragging all the selected ones? Is something similar already implemented?

Thanks!

Not implemented. Would be cool indeed. Just have to figure out a way to do the multi collision detection zombie
solitud
update

Private Messages
You can send private messages to other registered users now.
tsunamisucks
@solitud i love you anyway, even though you have a girlfriend oops
solitud
tsunamisucks wrote:
@solitud i love you anyway, even though you have a girlfriend oops

Now the whole world knows our dilemma.
tsunamisucks
Dead Banana


seriously speaking, message service was the thing i've expected from MG. thank you!
eole
Can't remember if this was talked already...
The similar racks option is quite unusable since the results are linked to the number of similar modules, including copies of a single module.
Eg. i have a DPO and i only get "similar racks" full of DPOs only or this kind of things...

And thanks again for all your awesome work on Modular Grid.
It's an unvaluable tool. smile
Vsyevolod
That would be invaluable if you meant it as a compliment...

smile

Stephen




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eole
ooops! sorry and thank you for the advice smile

edit : just found this : http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=208345 hmmm.....
solitud
Some troll added 500+ bullshit racks.
I now have implemented a Rack per User limit of 30 which should be more than enough. If users already have more than 30 racks those are not lost, but they can not add new ones.
Sorry guys for taking away the "unlimited" feature, but the limit is neccessary for the health of the system. sad
solitud
update on user request

Deactivate the display of the total Rack price
Do you feel uncomfortable when people see how much money you probably spend on your Rack? You can deactivate the display of total Rack prices in your user settings.
mha
solitud wrote:

Do you feel uncomfortable when people see how much money you probably spend on your Rack? You can deactivate the display of total Rack prices in your user settings.


I feel uncomfortable, when I see how much money I spend on my Rack hihi
solitud
mha wrote:

I feel uncomfortable, when I see how much money I spend on my Rack hihi

This feature addresses your problem, too. Just disable the display of prices and you are rich again.
ben_hex
Thanks for keeping such a brilliant system going. Much appreciated.
rizoma
wow that's really cool!
carlosnyb
Hm, the 'reality check' feature
radiokoala
Ah, goddamnit, my 63 racks probably mean I now can't use modulargrid anymore. waah
Daisuk
Is there a way to sort modules by popularity based only on vote, instead of average vote (which I assume the current "popular" system is based on)? Some highly rated modules gets lost pretty far down some lists because they don't have a lot of votes (or at least that's why I think they are further down the list).

Would be cool to be able to sort after the top rated modules regardless of how many votes they've received - or possibly even being able to select a vote count minimum or something. smile
packrat
Would it be possible to have more than 8 rows and maybe a little more maximum width? I've got a 9-row rack tower now (even without the skiff in front of it) and I can't represent it as a single MG system anymore :(

Thanks,
B>
ben_hex
Certainly lifting the 8 row cap would be good. I have 8 rows and a rack unit on top I'd like have in there as part of the plan. So 9 rows ideally for me.
sloth713
I have a small request

Since there are a fair amount on new Eurorack modules that use vacuum/gas tubes could we add a "tube" label to the function list.

There is a digital label on the function list so i don't think the tube lable would be out of place.

Thanks for your consideration solitud
solitud
Sorry guys for late reply. I read all your comments and try to bring in what I think is possible and makes sense.
At the moment I am working at a big bugfix release which might bring in some new features too.
For now I have only added the requested "Tube" tag.
Jaspo
I didn't see a reply to my comment about adding a popup HP display when you pass over an empty space. Would be nice to know how big a space is.

Also a bug on the Patch creator.

If you make a change to a rack and create a new patch, it will use the old layout and not the updated. It maybe because I created a patch with the old layout. The way around it is to Duplicate the rack and then create a patch.
solitud
Jaspo wrote:
I didn't see a reply to my comment about adding a popup HP display when you pass over an empty space. Would be nice to know how big a space is.

I have this on my list. But because it's not trivial it won't come very soon.

Jaspo wrote:

Also a bug on the Patch creator.

If you make a change to a rack and create a new patch, it will use the old layout and not the updated. It maybe because I created a patch with the old layout. The way around it is to Duplicate the rack and then create a patch.

Known bug. An other workaround is to actively generate a new screenshot from the command center.
Sorry I know it sucks...
djpasica
how to add/edit tags of modules? seriously, i just don't get it
sloth713
djpasica wrote:
how to add/edit tags of modules? seriously, i just don't get it


First make sure you are logged in.

to add module click on the "Modules" tab on the black header up top, then click on the "Submit a Module" on the top right of the page.



To edit a module click on the modules information page (the eyeball button), then click on the "edit this module" button in the top right of the page.


If you would like to add more than one tag make sure you hold the control button will clicking so you can highlight multiple option.
solitud
Thanks sloth713 for the explanation! One might add: it's only possible to tag if you are a fully registered member, that's one who managed to click on the confirmation mail.
amnesia
Getting back into euro ( for the third time) I really love MG.

It would be great if you could somehow decide not to see DIY gear as this will really make looking at a mass amount of modules easier and save a lot of time.
daluxer
+1 on what amnesia said.
SkoPe
I love ModularGrid, using it everyday since its online... applause

some requests: add a Paypal donate button, would love to contribute for your work making this very useful tool.


And don´t know if someone already suggested it... if possible limiting module search per mA usage could be great, just for +12V... only manufacturer, function and HP its not enough when you're close to your PSU limit.
n_m
SkoPe wrote:
I love ModularGrid, using it everyday since its online... applause

some requests: add a Paypal donate button, would love to contribute for your work making this very useful tool.


You can donate via bandcamp. It's on the homepage.
packrat
That's subtle, since a lot of modules are available both built and as DIY kits.

B>
solitud
n_m wrote:
SkoPe wrote:
I love ModularGrid, using it everyday since its online... applause

some requests: add a Paypal donate button, would love to contribute for your work making this very useful tool.


You can donate via bandcamp. It's on the homepage.

It's an iTunes link, so you also will help Apple to develop their new telephone. I have heard they are planning something revolutionary, like a normal telephone just with better ringtones or something. thumbs up

packrat wrote:
That's subtle, since a lot of modules are available both built and as DIY kits.

B>

At least it works the other way around: there is a Tag "DIY" you can select as a "function".
n_m
solitud wrote:
n_m wrote:
SkoPe wrote:
I love ModularGrid, using it everyday since its online... applause

some requests: add a Paypal donate button, would love to contribute for your work making this very useful tool.


You can donate via bandcamp. It's on the homepage.

It's an iTunes link, so you also will help Apple to develop their new telephone. I have heard they are planning something revolutionary, like a normal telephone just with better ringtones or something. thumbs up


d'oh! mixed that up lol well, take it as a suggestion 8_)
solitud
update

General enhancements
This is mostly a bugfix update most people won't even notice.
I have refactored a lot of code under the hood which was necessary because of the unplanned gradual feature creep which happens the last year.
As a positive effect the site should be a little faster now, especially the module, patch and rack index pages.

There are some visible changes, too:
- Redesigned Module Submit and Edit forms
- Upload your own Avatar in User Settings

Functional:
- The image uploader is more robust and now accepts png
- Tags per Module are now limited to 8 Tags

The deployment today was a little rough, so sorry for any inconveniences.
Riggar
Great software - and super interface. A big thank you.

A request - its very useful to look at the new modules with sometimes several arriving every day and when scanning for a particular function BUT it would be really useful to NOT include all those where the manufacturer is other/unknown. There's a lot of them (just looked the last 50 and 23 are unknowns). Sure they have a place and are interesting but it would good to get to leave them out on occasion.[/b]
Apola Kipso
solitud wrote:
update


Any chance you'll put it up on GitHub?
Jaspo
A tip when searching for some Intellijel modules. On most PCs you can hold down the alt key and type 0181 on the numeric keypad to get the 'µ' character. Just searching for that character alone brings up 4 modules.

It would be nice if the 'µ' character was translated to 'u'.
smcumber
I keep this open at work fantasizing about what module I'm going to buy next
r1n9o
All hail ModularGrid! we're not worthy
solitud
Riggar wrote:

A request - its very useful to look at the new modules with sometimes several arriving every day and when scanning for a particular function BUT it would be really useful to NOT include all those where the manufacturer is other/unknown. There's a lot of them (just looked the last 50 and 23 are unknowns). Sure they have a place and are interesting but it would good to get to leave them out on occasion.

I am aware of this, also the DIY modules, vaporware ones and MK1 modules should be better separated.
Until I found a solution you can always do a search order by "popular".

Apola Kipso wrote:
solitud wrote:
update

Any chance you'll put it up on GitHub?

No, this would penetrate my security by obscurity system Dead Banana . There are enough hack attempts already.
I planned it for the TrueGrid section, but there isn't much demand I guess.

Jaspo wrote:
It would be nice if the 'µ' character was translated to 'u'.

Quick workaround would be to include both names. "µStep" in the name and "uStep" in the short description. Both fields are relevant for the search engine.
smcumber wrote:
I keep this open at work fantasizing about what module I'm going to buy next

r1n9o wrote:
All hail ModularGrid! we're not worthy

Thanks guys!
Apola Kipso
solitud wrote:

Apola Kipso wrote:
solitud wrote:
update

Any chance you'll put it up on GitHub?

No, this would penetrate my security by obscurity system Dead Banana . There are enough hack attempts already.
I planned it for the TrueGrid section, but there isn't much demand I guess.


Ah, bummer...
I'm mainly asking because the restriction to eight tags per module seems like a backend fix to a frontend problem. Also, adding/proposing new features would probably much easier if one could send you a pull request.

solitud wrote:
security by obscurity

I'm not even gonna touch that... poke
solitud
Apola Kipso wrote:


Ah, bummer...
I'm mainly asking because the restriction to eight tags per module seems like a backend fix to a frontend problem.


The infinite tag approach made the search function "unsharp".
The 8 tag restriction should prevent tag spam that occurs on some modules.
I know e.g. a Maths is everything in theory but if I am looking for an oscillator Maths is not the first thing that comes in my mind. I know that this is discussable.
People should focus at the main functions a module provides and tag these. 8 tags is still a lot.

Apola Kipso wrote:

Also, adding/proposing new features would probably much easier if one could send you a pull request.

I have to use Git to make this work. I don't. smokin'
Pm/send me your ideas
Apola Kipso wrote:

solitud wrote:
security by obscurity

I'm not even gonna touch that... poke


Was meant more as funny comment. There is no open backdoor on MG. But you know what I mean. If the open source code is floating around in the net an evil guy will sooner or later find a spot to attack.
Apola Kipso
solitud wrote:
The infinite tag approach made the search function "unsharp".
The 8 tag restriction should prevent tag spam that occurs on some modules.

Ok, thanks for the clarification. To have both complete tags and sharp enough search would then require something like ordering/prioritizing the tags, I see how that would be a much larger change.

solitud wrote:

I have to use Git to make this work. I don't. smokin'
Pm/send me your ideas

Makes sense, I will.

Thanks for building the thing in the first place, it's what dreams are made of SlayerBadger!
Daisuk
Feature "request" - set certain modules in a rack in a fixed position, and have modulargrid re-organize the rest to best fit the rack space. wink
solitud
Daisuk wrote:
Feature "request" - set certain modules in a rack in a fixed position, and have modulargrid re-organize the rest to best fit the rack space. wink

This will be an extension to the already available Optimize Rack Space function? Tough call!
Daisuk
Yep! I love your site either way, but it would be a damn nifty addition. wink
JohnLRice
Feature Suggestion: I was thinking the other day it would be nice to be able to set a "future purchase flag" per module that is OFF by default but if set to ON the module would look different, like monochome grey or green and half faded etc. That way at a glance I could see what I have now and what are potential future purchases.

Thanks for all your hard work on MG! thumbs up
solitud
JohnLRice wrote:
That way at a glance I could see what I have now and what are potential future purchases.

You do not know what you have now? Valid request but definitely not prio A wink
Kentucky
I also like that 'future purchase' option, I think it could be a handy tool. Love the sight! Use it all the time.
JohnLRice
solitud wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:
That way at a glance I could see what I have now and what are potential future purchases.

You do not know what you have now? Valid request but definitely not prio A wink
I know what I have, (most of the time ;-) but I have to pull out modules to get a snapshot of my current system to show someone (or make a copy and edit that) etc. Not a priority at all, just a convenience. thumbs up

I'd much rather see the other things I suggested happen first like multi format systems, individual cases handled as a 'modular entity' so systems can be built out of cases, cost hiding/masking for privacy, etc 8_)

But, I'm totally happy to use it as is, I think it's pretty awesome! we're not worthy
JohnLRice
Kentucky wrote:
I also like that 'future purchase' option, I think it could be a handy tool. Love the sight! Use it all the time.

And, to make this suggestion even harder to implement, hihi , having related values broken out and sub totaled might be useful. Like current + future = total HP, amps and dollar values could be displayed?
solitud
JohnLRice wrote:

I'd much rather see the other things I suggested happen first like multi format systems, individual cases handled as a 'modular entity' so systems can be built out of cases, cost hiding/masking for privacy, etc 8_)


Puhh. At least the cost hiding/masking thing happened a while ago. You can do this right now in your user settings.
JohnLRice
solitud wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:

I'd much rather see the other things I suggested happen first like multi format systems, individual cases handled as a 'modular entity' so systems can be built out of cases, cost hiding/masking for privacy, etc 8_)


Puhh. At least the cost hiding/masking thing happened a while ago. You can do this right now in your user settings.
Ahh, thanks! thumbs up When I suggested it originally you sounded like you didn't want to do it so I forgot about it!
solitud
JohnLRice wrote:
solitud wrote:
JohnLRice wrote:

I'd much rather see the other things I suggested happen first like multi format systems, individual cases handled as a 'modular entity' so systems can be built out of cases, cost hiding/masking for privacy, etc 8_)


Puhh. At least the cost hiding/masking thing happened a while ago. You can do this right now in your user settings.
Ahh, thanks! thumbs up When I suggested it originally you sounded like you didn't want to do it so I forgot about it!


Other Mufflers formed a strong alliance to beat me to it.
Riggar
Feature Request: Some way of indicating obsolete modules. I just noticed the analogue solutions meter has gone from its website.
taylor12k
another request for greater-than-200 HP widths. perhaps just don't set a limit, then you never have to worry about it again. if someone really wants to flesh out a 14,000 HP case, let them! applause

but, yeah +1 for wider than 200.
ETP
does this happen just to me? when i refresh in the browser (not F5) then this Comes up:



after hit F5 the size is ok but the racks are not refreshed...
solitud
ETP wrote:
does this happen just to me? when i refresh in the browser (not F5) then this Comes up:

after hit F5 the size is ok but the racks are not refreshed...


Mhh. Internet Explorer.
I try to support as many browser as possible. But since I don't have a Windows machine I only run the basic tests for IE in a virtual machine so it's quite natural that you find rough edges here.
Instead of hitting F5, did you try to click on the Refresh icon in the popup toolbar?
It's the second icon next to the Loupe.

Edit: These boots are made for walking?
solitud
taylor12k wrote:
another request for greater-than-200 HP widths. perhaps just don't set a limit, then you never have to worry about it again. if someone really wants to flesh out a 14,000 HP case, let them! applause

but, yeah +1 for wider than 200.

Understand what you mean. But I fear if I allow 14.000 HP cases I have to deal with "I can not drag modules to column 13.000 on my iPad and performance sucks" issues forever.
Also database performance will lag and explode, when chaps "duplicate" their big ass racks several times and that will influence the experience for everybody (in a negative way).
ETP
i just bought a new computer and my english is not the best...
the old machine had chrome installed and everything went allright.
when i refresh in the modulargrid toolbar the glitched zoomed version comes up
when i refresh with F5 the size is ok but the rack doesnt refresh.
solitud
ETP wrote:
i just bought a new computer and my english is not the best...
the old machine had chrome installed and everything went allright.
when i refresh in the modulargrid toolbar the glitched zoomed version comes up
when i refresh with F5 the size is ok but the rack doesnt refresh.

Ah, o.k. understand. MG has an aggressive caching behaviour for images.
Try to hold Shift and click on the refresh Icon in the browser address bar.
ETP
solitud wrote:
ETP wrote:
i just bought a new computer and my english is not the best...
the old machine had chrome installed and everything went allright.
when i refresh in the modulargrid toolbar the glitched zoomed version comes up
when i refresh with F5 the size is ok but the rack doesnt refresh.

Ah, o.k. understand. MG has an aggressive caching behaviour for images.
Try to hold Shift and click on the refresh Icon in the browser address bar.


thumbs up worked!! thanks a lot !
solitud
ETP wrote:

thumbs up worked!! thanks a lot !

This works on every other website, too.
Now I am back youTubing for Nancy Sinatra wink
ETP
thanks again. so a wonderfull place here and modulargrid

Nancy Sinatra... i was surprised when i heard "bang bang", you know what i mean. i love "the boots are made for Walking"

cheers Guinness ftw!
Mefistophelees
solitud wrote:
Understand what you mean. But I fear if I allow 14.000 HP cases I have to deal with "I can not drag modules to column 13.000 on my iPad and performance sucks" issues forever.
Also database performance will lag and explode, when chaps "duplicate" their big ass racks several times and that will influence the experience for everybody (in a negative way).



I think 14000 HP is a bit over the top but I think it could be made a bit bigger within reasonable limitations.

I'm guessing 3x104HP by 24U would cover everything but the very largest systems.

Talking of which, I've just got another 3U skiff and at 48U + Kraftzwerg, my system no longer fits!
cleaninglady
I'm new to the Modular Grid site , can anyone help me out by explaining how to post in the Forum ?

I'd really like to request CGS modules be added to the Serge Planner. (hides)
Kinosness
When I generate a screenshot it displays an old version, and the screenshot previews won't update either.

Could it be that the pesky screenshot server has crashed again again?
solitud
Kinosness wrote:
When I generate a screenshot it displays an old version, and the screenshot previews won't update either.

Could it be that the pesky screenshot server has crashed again again?


Exactly. Thanks for reporting, works again ...
echoplex
could you please add the hinton instruments "gearbox" ?
all infos and pictures here:
https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=99172&start=160

thanks for updating thumbs up
packrat
You should be able to add a module yourself.

B>
echoplex
indeed hyper .. sorry, didn't know that.
added the gearbox Guinness ftw!
b-art
Hey first of all, wonderful site, very addicting. Sorry if this is mentioned already but what i would really like to see and might be easy to implement is when you make a patch you can see the number of patchcables used smile
mysterymachinestudio
solitud wrote:
Kinosness wrote:
When I generate a screenshot it displays an old version, and the screenshot previews won't update either.

Could it be that the pesky screenshot server has crashed again again?


Exactly. Thanks for reporting, works again ...


I'm having this same issue today. Is this something I should directly report? Thanks!
solitud
mysterymachinestudio wrote:
solitud wrote:
Kinosness wrote:
When I generate a screenshot it displays an old version, and the screenshot previews won't update either.

Could it be that the pesky screenshot server has crashed again again?


Exactly. Thanks for reporting, works again ...


I'm having this same issue today. Is this something I should directly report? Thanks!

Yes, thanks. Works again.
solitud
b-art wrote:
Hey first of all, wonderful site, very addicting. Sorry if this is mentioned already but what i would really like to see and might be easy to implement is when you make a patch you can see the number of patchcables used smile

Nice idea, a little niché though. I put it on the list.
Phetus


LULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULULLLLZZZZZZZ
Phetus
...crap
Vsyevolod
Dude, don't bogart that rack space...

Stephen




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Sleipnir
Anybody but me having weirdness in iPad w/iOS8?
I can do anything but *move* modules. No amount of fiddling works. Happens in Chrome & Safari. Tried with popup on & off.

Yes, I'm logged in ;-)
Dead Banana
If this doesn't work soon, I'll need to... actually make music or something.
wirelesswine
Sleipnir wrote:
Anybody but me having weirdness in iPad w/iOS8?
I can do anything but *move* modules. No amount of fiddling works. Happens in Chrome & Safari. Tried with popup on & off.

Yes, I'm logged in ;-)
Dead Banana
If this doesn't work soon, I'll need to... actually make music or something.


Yes, having the same issue. Hopefully a fix will be in order soon for the iPad.
Phetus
Vsyevolod wrote:
Dude, don't bogart that rack space...

Stephen

.


I guess I'm more hooked than i thought i was...
solitud
wirelesswine wrote:
Sleipnir wrote:
Anybody but me having weirdness in iPad w/iOS8?
I can do anything but *move* modules. No amount of fiddling works. Happens in Chrome & Safari. Tried with popup on & off.

Yes, I'm logged in ;-)
Dead Banana
If this doesn't work soon, I'll need to... actually make music or something.


Yes, having the same issue. Hopefully a fix will be in order soon for the iPad.

Curse of the early adaptors.
Thanks for reporting, I look into this.
Daisuk
It would be nice if you could search for more than one category at once, i.e. both "LFO" and "Quad", for instance. wink
daluxer
Quote:
Yes, having the same issue. Hopefully a fix will be in order soon for the iPad.


Great. Fuck lol, just installed iOs 8
solitud
daluxer wrote:
Quote:
Yes, having the same issue. Hopefully a fix will be in order soon for the iPad.


Great. Fuck lol, just installed iOs 8


Needed the whole day to fix this iOS8 clusterfuck bug. It should work now.
Hopefully I didn't break iOS7..

Daisuk wrote:
It would be nice if you could search for more than one category at once, i.e. both "LFO" and "Quad", for instance. wink

Yeah, the search form has some place for improvements too. An let me guess: you also want to filter excluding categories: "Lfo, Quad, NOT DIY". zombie
daluxer
Thanks for all the work put into this! thumbs up
Daisuk
solitud wrote:
daluxer wrote:
Quote:
Yes, having the same issue. Hopefully a fix will be in order soon for the iPad.


Great. Fuck lol, just installed iOs 8


Needed the whole day to fix this iOS8 clusterfuck bug. It should work now.
Hopefully I didn't break iOS7..

Daisuk wrote:
It would be nice if you could search for more than one category at once, i.e. both "LFO" and "Quad", for instance. wink

Yeah, the search form has some place for improvements too. An let me guess: you also want to filter excluding categories: "Lfo, Quad, NOT DIY". zombie


hehe, that would be nice! it's not a biggie, so no rush implementing it if it's hard to implement. your site rocks hard as it is, but you always see room for improvement in stuff you really like and use a lot, you know. wink couldn't do without modulargrid, it's seriously a brilliant website! thumbs up
solitud
The ModularGrid Unicorn Account
Today I introduce the **Unicorn Account** which is a payable upgrade for registered ModularGrid users.

Before you unpack your torches and pitchforks please read on:
In the last three years I have understand that a complete free an unlimited webapp comes with some significant problems.
And that's not only me doing an unpaid fulltime job.
The main problem is the excessive accumulation of digital garbage which eventually spoils the fun and value in use for everybody. You have mods in forums to care about such but that does not work on a web-based modular planner.

The *Unicorn Account* should address these:

* Satisfy the calls for even bigger Racks for the *Pros* while preventing the polluting of the database by some *Newbs*
* Keep the amount of Racks at a healthy minimum, make browsing through the Racks interesting again.
* Prevent the webspace been eaten by zillion rack screenshots of *final_system(copy)(copy)(copy)(copy)*
* Better statistics, tame the need of users to build another *Math-only Monsterrack*
* Better server performance for everyone. Better protection from DOS.
* Bring in some cash, obviously.

Chances are you won't notice
The standard MG account will be always free and still lets you create 10 racks, each of the size of a massive Doepfer monster case! That should be more than enough for 95% of all MG users.
(Remember you can always copy modules in two opened browser windows with the c,p,x keyboard shortcuts.)

You won't lose what you already got
I thought a lot about to make this change happen without taking away what users already have.
The solution: If you already have a large or a lot of racks, you can still use them for free!
You just won't be able to resize your big rack and you can not create new ones if you are over the limit.

Read more about the *Unicorn Account*:
http://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/pro_index

... and tell me what you think
sonicwarrior
solitud wrote:
Before you unpack your torches and pitchforks please read on

As long as there is a free account I really think no one can complain. I mean those free accounts are somehow a gift to the community.

I think it's a good move and prefer this over advertising (although you could think about a cooperation with Schneidersladen, Analog Haven, etc. for prominent links, doubt this would hurt anyone as it's a de facto advertising platform for them already anyway [with links]). thumbs up

Also this should contain the excessive fantasy racks that serve no real purpose (30x Maths and stuff).
Nantonos
Woohoo, I'm a unicorn
mha
Got the unicorn as well.

I don't need the bigger racks, but would just like to support the service.

Guinness ftw!
solitud
Thanks unicorn 1 and 2, I really appreciate it!
Sleipnir
solitud wrote:
Thanks unicorn 1 and 2, I really appreciate it!

If I'm #3, does that make me a Triceratops?

Love the site, glad to pay.
Also, my synth is 5 rows x 178 hp, haha.
ETP
why no bank transfer? i don´t have paypal
dan_k
Unicorn'd. SlayerBadger!

Thanks for all your hard work! Guinness ftw!
solitud
ETP wrote:
why no bank transfer? i don´t have paypal

Paypal was just the easiest way to implement. If you click on the button, credit card should work too.

And there is always the alternative option described in the last paragraph of the faq
"Other ways to pay than Paypal?
No other payment service, sorry. But if you can show me a recent receipt of a charity organization where you helped to save a whale or something, this might be your entrance ticket, too."
wink

To all the other unicorns: thank you!!
solitud
one more thing

500 Series universe
O.k. now that you have finished your big ass euro rack you need some serious modular mastering processors. APIs 500 series is a great way to spend insane cash on this purpose.
In short: ModularGrid supports the 500 series format. Now.

http://www.modulargrid.net/a/modules/home
KrisM
$27 a year seems quite fair, and the free limitations aren't exactly super strict, either (bear in mind this is coming from someone that has yet to fill even 3U/84hp >.> )
Apola Kipso
Anyone else having trouble paying with PayPal too? Everything went fine up to the last step where I had to confirm the payment (back on modulargrid.net after being redirected from PayPal). I received a server error ("An internal server error occurred", looked like a default Cake 500 page).

The URL had this format:
`https://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/pro_confirmed/token:{someTokenHer e}/payer_id:{someIdHere}`

I checked my PayPal account - the payment went through, but it wasn't registered in my ModularGrid account Dead Banana (I checked by logging out, logging back in and trying to create a new rack - the "too many racks" error occurred).

Anyone else had this?
solitud
Apola Kipso wrote:
Anyone else having trouble paying with PayPal too? Everything went fine up to the last step where I had to confirm the payment (back on modulargrid.net after being redirected from PayPal). I received a server error ("An internal server error occurred", looked like a default Cake 500 page).

The URL had this format:
`https://www.modulargrid.net/e/users/pro_confirmed/token:{someTokenHer e}/payer_id:{someIdHere}`

I checked my PayPal account - the payment went through, but it wasn't registered in my ModularGrid account Dead Banana (I checked by logging out, logging back in and trying to create a new rack - the "too many racks" error occurred).

Anyone else had this?


I look into it...
Apola Kipso
solitud wrote:
I look into it...


Thanks for the quick help, I'm now a proud wearer of the unicorn badge and will add new racks until daybreak It's peanut butter jelly time!
solitud
Issue is fixed.
KrisM
Forgive me if this has been asked already, this is a huge thread, now Dead Banana

Is it even feasible to make it so one could build a rack that is a combination of 3U segments and 1U segments? Or is the code just a nightmare for 'hybrid racks'? Making a 3U rack to fit in 6U of Eurorack and 1U of Tiles feels a bit kludgy at the moment (ie, make a 9U rack), though perhaps I'm just a bit anal about appearances >.>
solitud
This was requested by others too, but a hybrid rack is hard to do, so this will not come soon...
KrisM
solitud wrote:
This was requested by others too, but a hybrid rack is hard to do, so this will not come soon...


No worries! Thanks for the site smile
Mefistophelees
This is a very valuable service so I am happy to sign up.

...and with the wider racks I can finally setup my system properly thumbs up

KrisM
Mefistophelees wrote:
This is a very valuable service so I am happy to sign up.

...and with the wider racks I can finally setup my system properly thumbs up


Showoff O.O
Mefistophelees
KrisM wrote:
Mefistophelees wrote:
This is a very valuable service so I am happy to sign up.

...and with the wider racks I can finally setup my system properly thumbs up


Showoff O.O


Mr. Green


Actually it's so much better to be able to set it up as it is. It'll make planning so much easier.
I had been experimenting with different layouts on modulargrid and this means I can trim a load of them.
glitched01
I use modulargrid.net all the time, but I recently used it to help my friend set up his first system. We had several iterations, but he finally went with the Cadillac of systems, including a Metropolis, Shapeshifter, and Phonogene!

Thanks for this excellent resource!
packrat
Okay, with all these subscriptions, I want an API service so we can do rack processing external things. Or at least fragments of javascript! smile

Argh. internal error when trying to pay :(
mha
packrat wrote:
I want an API service so we can do rack processing external things. Or at least fragments of javascript! smile


What would you use that for?
packrat
I would use it for, for example, moving whole rows around, or being able to work out power requirements for subsets of a rack (for those racks which are made of smaller cabinets or non-uniform power).

But mostly, with an API, people could build all sorts of crazy tools. Simply exposing enough JS on the page that simple bookmarklets could be built against it would be a start.

B>
Daisuk
I can't seem to duplicate a rack now, it says 'Could not duplicate: Rack must consist of more than 1 and less than 4 Rows'. Why less than 4 rows to duplicate a rack? I've been able to duplicate a 5 row rack before.
solitud
Daisuk wrote:
I can't seem to duplicate a rack now, it says 'Could not duplicate: Rack must consist of more than 1 and less than 4 Rows'. Why less than 4 rows to duplicate a rack? I've been able to duplicate a 5 row rack before.

4 rows á 168HP == Monstercase is the max amount of space for the standard MG account.
You can still use your bigger racks but can not duplicate them if they are over this limit.
solitud
packrat wrote:
I would use it for, for example, moving whole rows around, or being able to work out power requirements for subsets of a rack (for those racks which are made of smaller cabinets or non-uniform power).

But mostly, with an API, people could build all sorts of crazy tools. Simply exposing enough JS on the page that simple bookmarklets could be built against it would be a start.

B>

I think you suggested that already. While I generally think it's a cool idea, I am pretty sure only very little users would make use of it.
I have done a small kind of API to get all modules in a rack as json a while a go, but have yet to see the app someone built around it..
So while this is not a "no" in general it's not top priority either ...
sempervirent
solitud it's great that you added a 500-format option. And it's nice that nobody's complaining about the paid model – the software probably required thousands of unpaid hours to build!

Now the only thing left to add is a 19" rack planner. I'm sure some studio pros would pay for that option (though they might not need 10+ racks).

As for getting moderated on GS, my guess about the mod was right, that person does the same thing every time a link to Muffwiggler is posted. It's a silly rule:
http://goo.gl/ATI2IX – You may not recruit users for another forum or blog. As GS is ad-driven one can only guess about the motivations involved.
solitud
sempervirent wrote:
solitud it's great that you added a 500-format option.

You are probably the first who noticed that.
sempervirent wrote:

And it's nice that nobody's complaining about the paid model – the software probably required thousands of unpaid hours to build!

Thanks guys, I expected a lot complains. Well, not everyone has found it out yet (hides)
sempervirent wrote:

Now the only thing left to add is a 19" rack planner. I'm sure some studio pros would pay for that option (though they might not need 10+ racks).

Maybe, but it's not planned very soon.
sempervirent wrote:

As for getting moderated on GS, my guess about the mod was right, that person does the same thing every time a link to Muffwiggler is posted. It's a silly rule:
http://goo.gl/ATI2IX – You may not recruit users for another forum or blog. As GS is ad-driven one can only guess about the motivations involved.

I am typically calm like a Saint Bernhard but this GS mod really hit a nerve with his condescending attitude.
Daisuk
solitud wrote:
Daisuk wrote:
I can't seem to duplicate a rack now, it says 'Could not duplicate: Rack must consist of more than 1 and less than 4 Rows'. Why less than 4 rows to duplicate a rack? I've been able to duplicate a 5 row rack before.

4 rows á 168HP == Monstercase is the max amount of space for the standard MG account.
You can still use your bigger racks but can not duplicate them if they are over this limit.


Ah, I didn't see the Unicorn-account thing before now - good move! smile
KrisM
solitud wrote:
I am typically calm like a Saint Bernhard but this GS mod really hit a nerve with his condescending attitude.


So what you're saying is, he makes you like this guy instead:


grin
solitud
KrisM wrote:
solitud wrote:
I am typically calm like a Saint Bernhard but this GS mod really hit a nerve with his condescending attitude.


So what you're saying is, he makes you like this guy instead:


grin

If this is Cujo, than, yes.
P.S. A 100 page thread?!?! eek!
KrisM
Tis indeed Cujo
sonicwarrior
solitud wrote:
sempervirent wrote:
solitud it's great that you added a 500-format option.

You are probably the first who noticed that.

I noticed it but am not into that format. Anyway I spread the word at Groupdiy:
http://groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=57396.new#new
solitud
sonicwarrior wrote:

I noticed it but am not into that format. Anyway I spread the word at Groupdiy:
http://groupdiy.com/index.php?topic=57396.new#new

Great, thanks!
CF3
glad to pay for this. Guinness ftw! keep up the good work. The 500 series rack planner is straight up dangerous to bank account.

And quick request while I'm here: 19" Rackmount style "rack" for Euro (TipTop Happy Ending Style or Doepfer rackmount)


4130photo
I'm a Unicorn eek! w00t
solitud
w00t SlayerBadger! screaming goo yo
sempervirent
I noticed that the API Lunchbox theme is an option for the Euro planner, and all the other Euro themes are options for the 500 planner, which doesn't seem quite right.
solitud
sempervirent wrote:
I noticed that the API Lunchbox theme is an option for the Euro planner, and all the other Euro themes are options for the 500 planner, which doesn't seem quite right.

You can slam your Buchla modules in a Doepfer case, too.
Everything is possible on the ModularGrid. hihi
sempervirent
Yeah, I can see the logic in doing that. You could have a Buchla case that looks like a Monorocket case (I did at one point). But there's no way to install Euro modules into a Lunchbox.
clusterchord
im all for the unicorn account and understand the reasoning behind. huge body of work.


that being said, im thinking how insanely huge impact has modulargird had on wigglers spending on modules... it made easy to imagine all kind of possibilities and impossibilities and ultimately made us reach for our wallets and credit cards more easily--- it became even more addictive and fun than it was.

what i'm tryin to say is,, some big euro companies should like each send you a hefty check. this site has done more for their advertising and sales then they ever possibly could on their own.
daluxer
Totally agree on the above. Plus - it is easy to keep track of new modules.

..and much more other great features. thumbs up
Vsyevolod
Didn't get me to spend more than I have, just streamlined the process and gave me several hours of my life back that would otherwise have been wasted doing this all on paper.

Big ups for MG!!!

Stephen




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solitud
Thanks guys for kind words!
mezonoxian
being completely new to the modular world, i find it very helpful to be able to browse and plan future purchases with modulargrid. i would probably be too afraid to even consider starting out if there wasn't an option like this, so thanks a lot for it! smile
reodjectz
Unicorn for life. I am going to go save me some wales by hand.

100% support this move. Modular grid has save me countless hours that would be spent screwing and unscrewing modules to find the best layout. We are talking the cost of a passive multi here for a year's membership.

A question for solitud what is going to happen to all the massive cases of dead accounts that are filled with obvious jokes. The all maths cases for example?
Riggar
Unicorn.
I'm happy with this. The planner is a great piece of work that has helped me move forward with modular in a number of ways and has always been fun. That said, I do find the proliferation of unknowns now beginning to interfere with the general pleasure of using it. Will the Unicorn account sort this out – basically I don’t want to see them! Second question – which relates to the very democratic way all members can ‘installâ€â⠞¢ a new module; on the one hand its very community spirited but on the other, as a natural consequence, the data is varied. Is there a way to improve the overall quality here? Once again big thanks.
exper
Riggar wrote:
Unicorn.
I'm happy with this. The planner is a great piece of work that has helped me move forward with modular in a number of ways and has always been fun. That said, I do find the proliferation of unknowns now beginning to interfere with the general pleasure of using it. Will the Unicorn account sort this out – basically I don’t want to see them! Second question – which relates to the very democratic way all members can ‘installâ€â⠞¢ a new module; on the one hand its very community spirited but on the other, as a natural consequence, the data is varied. Is there a way to improve the overall quality here? Once again big thanks.


I agree about the modules. For instance, someone just uploaded a modded Doepfer A-143-9. Is that really necessary as most people won't have that mod? Separating a module into two can confuse users. I tried to make it a private module, but a couple of users complained.

Same with alternate panels (Grayscale) or inverted modules. I wish there was a way that a module could have multiple images. Say with a Maths, a user could select the regular one, the one with blue knobs or the Grayscale version. However each use would still just count as 1 Maths...

I'm all for people using private modules, but making them for everyone just makes people put them in "fantasy" racks.

And that's another thing I'd like, but there's no way to implement it. Designating whether or not your rack is what you actually own, what is planned or just screwing around. That way, the popularity and top module counts would be more realistic. But, there is no real way to enforce this...
Daisuk
exper wrote:

And that's another thing I'd like, but there's no way to implement it. Designating whether or not your rack is what you actually own, what is planned or just screwing around. That way, the popularity and top module counts would be more realistic. But, there is no real way to enforce this...


No way to inforce it properly, but how about just auto-assigning the first rack anyone makes as their "default - this is what i own"-rack, which can later be edited to be other racks. It might make the rack stats more reliable eventually.
exper
Daisuk wrote:
exper wrote:

And that's another thing I'd like, but there's no way to implement it. Designating whether or not your rack is what you actually own, what is planned or just screwing around. That way, the popularity and top module counts would be more realistic. But, there is no real way to enforce this...


No way to inforce it properly, but how about just auto-assigning the first rack anyone makes as their "default - this is what i own"-rack, which can later be edited to be other racks. It might make the rack stats more reliable eventually.


That could work. If the instrunctions on the page made that clear. Something like "this initial rack will be your main rack, and will be the only one that counts officially"...

IDK, still no way to make sure that in accurate... people could still fill it with 40 Maths... razz
sonicwarrior
Daisuk wrote:
"default - this is what i own"-rack

I might be a special case but I have three formats and therefore three 'actual' racks so there should be at least the possibility to make more than one 'real' racks.
Jaspo
Quote:
Could not duplicate: Rack must consist of more than 1 and less than 4 Rows


Ouch! I am working with LC9+LCB as a single case (5 rows).
Daisuk
sonicwarrior wrote:
Daisuk wrote:
"default - this is what i own"-rack

I might be a special case but I have three formats and therefore three 'actual' racks so there should be at least the possibility to make more than one 'real' racks.


Ah, yes, of course. I thought of the formats as separated, as I've only got Euro, but if they're all merged, then that makes perfect sense. smile
solitud
reodjectz wrote:
Unicorn for life. I am going to go save me some wales by hand.

100% support this move. Modular grid has save me countless hours that would be spent screwing and unscrewing modules to find the best layout. We are talking the cost of a passive multi here for a year's membership.

thanks
reodjectz wrote:

A question for solitud what is going to happen to all the massive cases of dead accounts that are filled with obvious jokes. The all maths cases for example?

If the accounts are obviously dead I will delete them eventually.
But I am shy to delete any racks of active users, because they maybe linked in forums and deletion will lead to a lot of broken images.
At least the unicorn account will prevent the generation of additional garbage racks to some degree.

Riggar wrote:
Unicorn.
I'm happy with this. The planner is a great piece of work that has helped me move forward with modular in a number of ways and has always been fun. That said, I do find the proliferation of unknowns now beginning to interfere with the general pleasure of using it. Will the Unicorn account sort this out – basically I don’t want to see them!

Yeah, I am thinking about an easy filter to hide the unknowns and DIY stuff modules..

Riggar wrote:

Second question – which relates to the very democratic way all members can ‘installâ€â⠞¢ a new module; on the one hand its very community spirited but on the other, as a natural consequence, the data is varied. Is there a way to improve the overall quality here? Once again big thanks.

This is "broken by concept". Since the data is not moderated (besides duplicates), quality has to be assured by the users through swarm intelligence smile

exper wrote:

I agree about the modules. For instance, someone just uploaded a modded Doepfer A-143-9. Is that really necessary as most people won't have that mod? Separating a module into two can confuse users. I tried to make it a private module, but a couple of users complained.

That's what I learned. It´s impossible to do it right for everyone. The upcoming DIY filter might fix this...

exper wrote:

Same with alternate panels (Grayscale) or inverted modules. I wish there was a way that a module could have multiple images. Say with a Maths, a user could select the regular one, the one with blue knobs or the Grayscale version. However each use would still just count as 1 Maths...

This is an old request. I did not implement it yet, because it might be more complicated as one thinks, especially tracking of different upload versions for different "image flavours" of a module and the problem that some faceplates for one module have different dimensions. I will look into this again.

exper wrote:

I'm all for people using private modules, but making them for everyone just makes people put them in "fantasy" racks.

And that's another thing I'd like, but there's no way to implement it. Designating whether or not your rack is what you actually own, what is planned or just screwing around. That way, the popularity and top module counts would be more realistic. But, there is no real way to enforce this...

I agree. Again the limit of racks for non-unicorn users will prevent this to some degree. (Damn, the limits are way to loose, everyone should be able to just generate 3 racks zombie )

Daisuk wrote:

No way to inforce it properly, but how about just auto-assigning the first rack anyone makes as their "default - this is what i own"-rack, which can later be edited to be other racks. It might make the rack stats more reliable eventually.

sonicwarrior wrote:

I might be a special case but I have three formats and therefore three 'actual' racks so there should be at least the possibility to make more than one 'real' racks.

There will be always special cases which will conflict with "auto-assigning" not to mention the zillion racks already in the system.
While I think the stats are biased for sure, I think they still reflect correct tendencies through the massive amount of data.
The list is called "Popular Modules" for a reason. No one can deny that the modules in this list are just that ... really popular.
One should not take the stats too seriously from a scientific standpoint, though.
Riggar
solitud - thanks forgetting back. On that basis I'm gonna join.
solitud
Riggar wrote:
solitud - thanks forgetting back. On that basis I'm gonna join.

Thanks, working on the filter right now.

To every native english speaker, if I define a filter with 3 stati:

* assembled
* diy
* both

What is the name of the label?
"Module Types", "Module Package", "Module Build Form", ... ?
albiedamned
How about "build type"
solitud
albiedamned wrote:
How about "build type"

Not sure if DIY is already a build type, it's not a build at all, when shipped smile
There seems no better alternative, so "build type" it is.
Thanks!
albiedamned
I have suggestion (sorry if this has already been made in this 102 page thread). In the module browser, add a second Function filter. That way I can search on envelope generator + dual, for example, or oscillator + digital. Obviously you could keep going and add a third Function filter, a fourth etc. But I think two gives a nice advantage over just one and satisfies most common cases.
sloth713
albiedamned wrote:
I have suggestion (sorry if this has already been made in this 102 page thread). In the module browser, add a second Function filter. That way I can search on envelope generator + dual, for example, or oscillator + digital. Obviously you could keep going and add a third Function filter, a fourth etc. But I think two gives a nice advantage over just one and satisfies most common cases.


I agree this would be a very nice feature
solitud
sloth713 wrote:
albiedamned wrote:
I have suggestion (sorry if this has already been made in this 102 page thread). In the module browser, add a second Function filter. That way I can search on envelope generator + dual, for example, or oscillator + digital. Obviously you could keep going and add a third Function filter, a fourth etc. But I think two gives a nice advantage over just one and satisfies most common cases.


I agree this would be a very nice feature


O.K., I put it to the list ...
solitud
update

Advanced module search features

Riggar wrote:
I do find the proliferation of unknowns now beginning to interfere with the general pleasure of using it. Will the Unicorn account sort this out – basically I don’t want to see them!

Fixed. You can now show/hide "other/unknown" manufacturers.

albiedamned wrote:
How about "build type"

Also filter by Build Type for DIY or assembled modules

sloth713 wrote:
albiedamned wrote:
I have suggestion (sorry if this has already been made in this 102 page thread). In the module browser, add a second Function filter. That way I can search on envelope generator + dual, for example, or oscillator + digital. Obviously you could keep going and add a third Function filter, a fourth etc. But I think two gives a nice advantage over just one and satisfies most common cases.


I agree this would be a very nice feature


Find a module with two function properties like dual AND VCA
carlosnyb
WOOHOO! Vonderbar!
eole
really excellent addition ! thank you smile
sloth713
The new functions are great, thanks solitud thumbs up
Daisuk
Yes, very nice, thanks! thumbs up
albiedamned
Very, very nice!
Riggar
Lovely jubbly! Thanks!
Nantonos
I added µScale II recently because I could only see the old (version 1) module. I see this has been marked as a dup, and indeed there is already a module µScale [v2].

Can't see how to delete the one I added.
aharm
Godsend website
solitud
Nantonos wrote:
I added µScale II recently because I could only see the old (version 1) module. I see this has been marked as a dup, and indeed there is already a module µScale [v2].

Can't see how to delete the one I added.


Click Me: Nantonos in top navigation.
Under the list of your racks is the list of your uploaded modules. Click delete.
This works only if the module is not assigned to other racks...
solitud
update

Textsearch for manufacturers
The text input field of the module browser formerly only searched in the module name and description.
Now it also searches for manufacturer names.
It should be easier to find the modules your looking for.

SSL/Https Encoding
I implemented https a while ago and wanted to test the site in deep before announcing it. But Google was faster and redirects directly to https if you coming from their search.
So, yeah, it should work in general.
Your browser will show the "broken lock" on some pages where content is included from the non-secure CDN server, though.
Regardless, you are save to login with your password from dubious Bangkok WLAN spots when in urge to check for latest modules on your holiday vacation.
Nantonos
Thanks, module delete worked.
pisrecords
Exelent idea ! Thanks 4 the work . This webpage helps a lot to the modular comunity . Sorry 4 my poor english applause
KrisM
Is there any way for users to add manufacturers? There are a lot of modules listed as "Other/Unknown" and you can see the manufacturer's name right on the faceplate d'oh!
solitud
pisrecords wrote:
Exelent idea ! Thanks 4 the work . This webpage helps a lot to the modular comunity . Sorry 4 my poor english applause

Thanks for making this your first post smile

KrisM wrote:
Is there any way for users to add manufacturers?

No way for users to do this, it's the only thing I moderate.

The general policy for getting a manufacturer entry on MG:
* have at least 3 modules to sell or
* have ONE everybody talks about

If someone checks this, yeah, there are exceptions.

So if some uploads ten sketches of modules he plans to develop at some time in the future that does not qualify him for an entry.

The reason is obvious: keep the list of manufacturers somewhat clear and manageable.
KrisM wrote:
There are a lot of modules listed as "Other/Unknown" and you can see the manufacturer's name right on the faceplate d'oh!

The tag is called Other/Unknown.
Daisuk
Can users remove "public" modules? For some reason, I can't find CVPal and the DSI Curtis filter on Modulargrid, even though I'm sure I've seen them both there before. hmmm.....
solitud
Daisuk wrote:
Can users remove "public" modules? For some reason, I can't find CVPal and the DSI Curtis filter on Modulargrid, even though I'm sure I've seen them both there before. hmmm.....


Both modules are in and show up on search.

Perhaps your search filters are somewhat messed up. Try to click "Reset" on the module browser then enter search terms "cvpal" and "curtis".

Users can remove modules only, if they are not already assigned to a rack, which is a very rare case.
vaxoid
Same on me. Can't find Benjolin by Epoch (
Even when I left blank search field and strict finder 18HP and oscillator function.
solitud
vaxoid wrote:
Same on me. Can't find Benjolin by Epoch (
Even when I left blank search field and strict finder 18HP and oscillator function.

That is another case. This module has no manufacturer entry attached, so you have to click the "show other/unknown" checkbox in the advanced search options.

I see, the new filter options have some drawbacks meh . I will go through the "other/unknowns" and add some of the popular ones to the manufacturer list.
daluxer
works seemlessly here. Maybe you should check your spelling?
Daisuk
"Assembled only" had for some reason been selected in the advanced options. I don't think I chose that myself. But CVPal is back, at least. Thanks, solitud! smile
Riggar
Feature request...

Would it be possible to 'colour' a module in some way - maybe dark grey (?) ideally by clicking right and ticking something or similar.

This would be great when building racks where some items are a future buy, or in the post, awaiting build etc. - just so the rack represents a realistic view to the user.

If not colouring then may be a 'mark' in one corner.

Just a thought.
davidh
el clon wrote:
solitud wrote:
el clon wrote:

when putting together my Frac system, i found a couple of modules were missing from the database. i didn't try adding them because they're already part of the Euro database, so i thought maybe someone who knows how could just copy them over to the Frac section? the modules are STG's Post-Lawsuit Lowpass Filter, and Synthesis Technology's E355 Morphing Dual LFO. or should i just add them from scratch?

Please add them from scratch. Since the difference of the faceplate measurements "simply copying over" will not work.
el clon wrote:

the other question has probably been asked before, so i apologize if that's the case, but why no Wiard 300 section? since there's Buchla and Serge... i can't complete my set-up without the Wiard. waah

I feel your pain waah There are just so many construction sites on ModularGrid I have to prioritise features. A Wiard section unfortunately is not the top requested feature. But do not give up hope on this one wink


ok, thanks. i'll add them tonight.... and i'll hope for Wiard in the future! Wiard


+1 for a wiard300 section SlayerBadger!
listentoaheartbeat
Module search appears to be case sensitive now.. Not that useful IMO. Is this by design or a bug? smile
solitud
listentoaheartbeat wrote:
Module search appears to be case sensitive now.. Not that useful IMO. Is this by design or a bug? smile

Can you give an example? Seems to work here...
listentoaheartbeat
solitud wrote:
listentoaheartbeat wrote:
Module search appears to be case sensitive now.. Not that useful IMO. Is this by design or a bug? smile

Can you give an example? Seems to work here...


Weird, I was looking for "bytes" and didn't get some of the expected results. Then I tried "Bytes" and got them. Now I get inconsistent results searching for either, sometimes all results are shown, sometimes it's just two.
solitud
listentoaheartbeat wrote:
solitud wrote:
listentoaheartbeat wrote:
Module search appears to be case sensitive now.. Not that useful IMO. Is this by design or a bug? smile

Can you give an example? Seems to work here...


Weird, I was looking for "bytes" and didn't get some of the expected results. Then I tried "Bytes" and got them. Now I get inconsistent results searching for either, sometimes all results are shown, sometimes it's just two.

Mhh. Today I found and fixed a small bug which could have something to do with your issue, but I am not sure. Keep me informed if you have still problems.
listentoaheartbeat
solitud wrote:
listentoaheartbeat wrote:
solitud wrote:
listentoaheartbeat wrote:
Module search appears to be case sensitive now.. Not that useful IMO. Is this by design or a bug? smile

Can you give an example? Seems to work here...


Weird, I was looking for "bytes" and didn't get some of the expected results. Then I tried "Bytes" and got them. Now I get inconsistent results searching for either, sometimes all results are shown, sometimes it's just two.

Mhh. Today I found and fixed a small bug which could have something to do with your issue, but I am not sure. Keep me informed if you have still problems.


Right now, searching for "bytes" on my iPad always gives me two results only:
solitud
Click on "Show advanced search options" and check the setting for "build type".
the untitled
Site offline?
dysonant
the untitled wrote:
Site offline?


Looks like it. Coudn;t get there on a cellular connection nor my home cable. Here is a traceroute

traceroute modulargrid.net
traceroute to modulargrid.net (80.246.63.115), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
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11 koln-b1-link.telia.net (213.155.134.83) 133.720 ms 157.298 ms 161.493 ms
12 host-ic-301144-koln-b1.c.telia.net (213.155.141.46) 166.371 ms 162.858 ms 170.127 ms
13 xe-0-1-0.dr-master.r2.cgn3.he-core.de (176.28.4.46) 153.891 ms 201.501 ms 173.322 ms
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AAG
Down! And I've got beer and the spreadsheet ready for a night of modular planning...
sloth713
AAG wrote:
Down! And I've got beer and the spreadsheet ready for a night of modular planning...


Well crap now you will just have to drink that beer while actually wiggling and making music razz hihi
dysonant
AAG wrote:
Down! And I've got beer and the spreadsheet ready for a night of modular planning...


Disappointing, I agree. Just got back from a modular synth store in brooklyn brimming with ideas and now I can't do anything about it. cry
AAG
sloth713 wrote:
AAG wrote:
Down! And I've got beer and the spreadsheet ready for a night of modular planning...


Well crap now you will just have to drink that beer while actually wiggling and making music razz hihi


You are right.
leere
and i just made some popcorn for an evening of planning what to fill my case with!
AAG
Up again smile
solitud
Sorry guys. Server is up, but running on the limits again..
Problem is probably a RAM issue.
Seems I have to upgrade again meh
Daisuk
solitud wrote:
Sorry guys. Server is up, but running on the limits again..
Problem is probably a RAM issue.
Seems I have to upgrade again meh


So everyone on here should know what to do!



Totally worth it. wink
moofi
Cat Girl Synth
DomMorley
Quote:
+1 for a wiard300 section SlayerBadger!


+2!
And also a Modcan A / Cyndustries section would be great![/quote]
erstlaub
Weird, Mikrophonie seems to have evaporated off MG. I hope this doesn't mean the one in my rack will soon vanish!
sloth713
erstlaub wrote:
Weird, Mikrophonie seems to have evaporated off MG. I hope this doesn't mean the one in my rack will soon vanish!


It is still there for me, make sure under advance search settings that you can see both assembled and DIY. The advanced search link is right bellow the module name search box.
erstlaub
Good call, thanks. I didnt even think about the advanced options.
solitud
Maybe "advanced option" wasn't the best feature idea since users cannot find modules and upload duplicates a lot.
I have changed the default behavior in the way it worked before.
The module browser now shows everything on default but lets you hide stuff if you click the related filters.
tsunamisucks
btw thank you solitud for the 'Secondary Function' option - it's very, very useful!
solitud
update

incomplete power consumption specs alert
look here: https://www.muffwiggler.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=126640
PolarIceCaves
Amazing work Knut! The site turned me on, big time, to going modular.

Setting up a 6u system now and your website has been invaluable.

Cheers, james
sloth713
The new not all modules have definite power ratings in your system warning feature is fantastic. Also the data sheet function is awesome. It would be super cool if you could do a feature where you could select to compare modules in a format like the data sheet (if that is not to complicated to program). Keep up the great work solitud, it is much appreciated.

In fact, I personally think you have had the biggest influence in modular over the last 1 to 2 years than anybody else (including the manufactures). It seems like every one plans their system and looks for new module on modulargrid first, so thanks for being neutral and putting in such a hard worker.
Nantonos
sloth713 wrote:
In fact, I personally think you have had the biggest influence in modular over the last 1 to 2 years than anybody else (including the manufactures). It seems like every one plans their system and looks for new module on modulargrid first, so thanks for being neutral and putting in such a hard worker.


Yes, well said. Guinness ftw! screaming goo yo
moofi
Indeed, thank you very much for a wonderful application :-)

Btw for the same reason like the initially checked "show other/unknown" option, wouldn´t it be advisable to also default with "Assembled&DIY"?
At least it took me a while to realise the advanced search function when not having been able to find a certain module I knew was there because I had it in the rack from a previous layout before the advanced options were impemented. Also it might immediately show alternatives to new rackcreators who possibly aren´t familiar with DIY-modules.
Saying, showing "every" available module by default feels like an improved overview.
solitud
PolarIceCaves wrote:

Setting up a 6u system now and your website has been invaluable.

sloth713 wrote:

In fact, I personally think you have had the biggest influence in modular over the last 1 to 2 years than anybody else (including the manufactures). It seems like every one plans their system and looks for new module on modulargrid first, so thanks for being neutral and putting in such a hard worker.

Nantonos wrote:

Yes, well said. Guinness ftw! screaming goo yo

Thank you all for kind words!
sloth713 wrote:
It would be super cool if you could do a feature where you could select to compare modules in a format like the data sheet (if that is not to complicated to program).

What do you want to compare? The power specs?
moofi wrote:

Btw for the same reason like the initially checked "show other/unknown" option, wouldn´t it be advisable to also default with "Assembled&DIY"?
[...]
Saying, showing "every" available module by default feels like an improved overview.

It's working like that since a while. I guess you have still and older cookie set...
carlosnyb
solitud wrote:

moofi wrote:

Btw for the same reason like the initially checked "show other/unknown" option, wouldn´t it be advisable to also default with "Assembled&DIY"?
[...]
Saying, showing "every" available module by default feels like an improved overview.

It's working like that since a while. I guess you have still and older cookie set...


cookie?!? w00t!!
solitud
carlosnyb wrote:

cookie?!? w00t!!

It's just computer-stuff, Krümelmonster.
carlosnyb
cry
daverj
Here's an idea for you:

There are some modules that have a jumper on the back to select if it is powered by an internal 5v regulator (pulled from the +12v) or uses the +5v bus. Those modules have two sets of power specs. One without +5v (for example, maybe 140ma +12v, 20ma -12v, 0ma +5v) and an alternate set of power specs for when the jumper is in the external 5v position (for example 20ma +12v, 20ma -12v, 120ma +5v).

It would be cool to have a second (alternate) set of power specs available for those modules. The alternate set could be disabled by default and a checkbox has to be checked in order to enable it. Then when people place the module they could have another checkbox for using power spec #1 or #2 as part of their rack power total.

Don't know if it's worth the trouble, but it seems there are more and more digital modules happening these days, and those are the ones that might have that jumper.
moofi
Though all cookies are consequently being eaten when the Firefox-Sandmännchen has arrived, it still defaults with "Assembled only". hmmm.....

solitud wrote:
carlosnyb wrote:

cookie?!? w00t!!

It's just computer-stuff, Krümelmonster.
qu.one
another plea to users — please list your DIY modules that are not for sale at all as PRIVATE. it's a little annoying shuffling through tons of modules that no one else will ever have.
sloth713
qu.one wrote:
another plea to users — please list your DIY modules that are not for sale at all as PRIVATE. it's a little annoying shuffling through tons of modules that no one else will ever have.


if you go to advanced search options (it is a little blue hyper link right below the module name search box) you can make it so no DIY modules are shown by selecting "build type", also you can take it one step further and have it not show "other/unknown" modules.
dubonaire
Aaah, that's a very useful tip. Thanks!
painlessparker
Big thanks to modular grid - it continues to be a godsend.

Although who'd have thought a website with free membership that doesn't sell anything could be so dangerous to the wallet?
reodjectz
solitud,

I have a suggestion for a feature that I think would simplify a lot of multi-case wigglers lives. As such it probably makes sense for it to be a unicorn only sort of thing.

A user can build a module pool, a quantity of specific modules that they own. The pool would have duplicates for items that the user has more than one of. Then a rack could be made 'pool only' and it will draw from that users module pool rather than the regular search database. Any module in a 'pool case' will not be available in any other 'pool case.' Perhaps already in use modules could be shown as grayed out and when you mouse over it it would show what case it is in, and have an option of removing it from that case.

Probably not too straightforward to implement, but could be immensely helpful.
Adminius
Yep! I second this proposal.

If this functionality were to be added to ModularGrid, it would probably result in me signing-up to a single fully-fledged Unicorn Account, instead of using a number of 'standard' sign-ins. You know this happens, right Solitud?
ben_hex
Great idea!
solitud
reodjectz wrote:

A user can build a module pool, a quantity of specific modules that they own.

Sounds interesting, I will look what is possible.
Adminius wrote:

If this functionality were to be added to ModularGrid, it would probably result in me signing-up to a single fully-fledged Unicorn Account, instead of using a number of 'standard' sign-ins. You know this happens, right Solitud?

I am totally aware. I am not mad about it.

P.S. uff, I recognized this thread is missing about 70 pages of posts waah
Since we are allowed to post in the broken threads, which will break database integrity, this means the missing posts are officially abandoned and will never come back?

EDIT: I just read the text in Muffs Info Box. I think there is the answer..
reodjectz
solitud,

I have a suggestion for a feature that I think would simplify a lot of multi-case wigglers lives. As such it probably makes sense for it to be a unicorn only sort of thing.

A user can build a module pool, a quantity of specific modules that they own. The pool would have duplicates for items that the user has more than one of. Then a rack could be made 'pool only' and it will draw from that users module pool rather than the regular search database. Any module in a 'pool case' will not be available in any other 'pool case.' Perhaps already in use modules could be shown as grayed out and when you mouse over it it would show what case it is in, and have an option of removing it from that case.

Probably not too straightforward to implement, but could be immensely helpful.

Reposting from temp forum for prosperity.
solitud
reodjectz wrote:

Reposting from temp forum for prosperity.

Answer to this suggestion in temp forum was something like "will look what is possible".
solitud
While everyone is going crazy about Namm, ModularGrid created the worlds advanced modular synth poster smile
The poster contains over 870 of the most popular eurorack modules.
Not sure what kind of a power supply one would need to drive this $200.000 whale.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/instantknut/sets/72157650461827742/
http://www.zazzle.com/the_modulargrid_modular_synthesizer_poster-22821 2502742959311

Mefistophelees