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sgnhh · Post by **sgnhh** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 3:08 pm

Do they play nice with modular setups? I'm just curious if it would be necessary to run one through an attenuating module like the Doepfer 138d?

felix · Post by **felix** » Sat Mar 01, 2008 11:54 pm

They do! Most not only have a Drive (input volume) control, but also an Output volume. They have plenty of headroom for the modular.

Actually, let me rephrase that...they have plenty of headroom for the modular if it's outputing an approximately line level signal.

I can't remember ever taking a line directly from an OSC on the modular...I typically had it going through the Doepfer A-130 exp VCA with the Output set at 7 and the input also @ 7. I'm pretty sure that's approximately unity gain.

Either way, the foogers are designed to accept higher output signals; not just guitars.

Babaluma · Post by **Babaluma** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:41 am

i swapped my mf-101 for an motm 1490 due to signal level problems.

to get a good clean sound, i'd have to severely attenuate the 10v p/p modular vco signal before going into the mf-101 (otherwide i'd get hideous distortion with the red light on all the time), and by the time the filtered sound came out of the 101 is was WAY lower than modular level (and even some line level signals), and i'd have to use a preamp to get the gain back up again.

although it didn't sound that bad doing this, it was a LOT of hassle to patch that way every time. the 1490 has no trouble withmodular level signals.

this may or may not bother you, and i have no experience with the other moogerfoogers.

sgnhh · Post by **sgnhh** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:22 am

I'm heavily considering the Freqbox (I want something that's going to cross-modulate and totally fuck up my sound... and the Dual Cyclotron won't be available again until the summer). I may as well get the crossfader module with it, because I have a Line 6 DL4 unit I could also use with it.

Do you guys know of any other modules similar to the Dual Cyclotron or the Freqbox? I know that those two aren't quite the same, but they appear to me to work on the same principle.

thermionicjunky · Post by **thermionicjunky** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:41 am

You can patch up any good VCO to behave like the FreqBox. You need a squared off version of your signal to sync the VCO to, and another version of your signal to modulate the VCO.

sgnhh · Post by **sgnhh** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:58 pm

orly

This is great information. Thanks.

edit: what do you mean by squared off?

thermionicjunky · Post by **thermionicjunky** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:35 pm

If you're using a guitar, I mean clipping distortion to approximate a square wave. If you're using synths, you should be fine. You can do sync, FM and patch up an envelope generator or follower and a pedal.

sgnhh · Post by **sgnhh** » Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:27 pm

Got it, thank you. Maybe you just saved me $340 bucks, although I would love to hear what a Freqbox sounds like with a guitar in person.

felix · Post by **felix** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:58 am

sgnhh wrote:Do you guys know of any other modules similar to the Dual Cyclotron or the Freqbox? I know that those two aren't quite the same, but they appear to me to work on the same principle.

They aren't really close *at all*. The FreqBox is designed to process audio signals (but of course it has additional features too) where as the Dual Cyclotron is a (crazy) voltage generator and not an audio processor.

Ok sure, you might patch an audio signal into the External IN on the Cyclotron...but that's about as close as they can get...which is still very different.

If you haven't seen the video I did on the DC, check it out.

[video][/video]

sgnhh · Post by **sgnhh** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:22 am

What I meant was they both seem to be based on the idea of using X to modulate Y to produce new sound Z, all in one unit. I know that one is for CV and one is for audio.

felix · Post by **felix** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 1:18 pm

oh.

sgnhh · Post by **sgnhh** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:16 pm

s'all right

In any case, the Freqbox is out temporarily because I was able to secure a Dual VCA, Plan B Tap Clock, Frequensteiner and Dual Cyclotron. Life is good.

felix · Post by **felix** » Mon Mar 03, 2008 3:20 pm

Woohooo! Yeah it is!

Have fun!

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