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Who wants some Blacet knobs?

Post by Muff Wiggler » Sun Mar 09, 2008 3:40 am

I have TONS, like god, like 50 or more, blue knobs

and I have dozens of yellows and reds

anyone need some? shout out and i'll send 'em your way, gratis



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Post by A Dingleberry Monstrosity » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:05 am

will they fit doepfer modules? I hate doepfer knobs :o

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:27 am

I dont know - they fit a 'D' shaped shaft, like this one:

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i don't really like the colored Blacet knobs, I use all grey knobs on my modules, which looks great with the Blacet panels. But every used module I've ever received has a colored knob, so I swap them out and have a HUGE collection of colored knobs I'll never use

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Post by Babaluma » Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:44 am

i'd like some but i also only use grey knobs 8)

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Post by Cat-A-Tonic » Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:55 am

I would like some knobs.

I have been trying to color code according to function.

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:05 pm

Cat-A-Tonic, what colors do you want and how many do you need?

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Post by Cat-A-Tonic » Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:37 pm

I don't know yet exactly, but am greedily inclined to say:
12+ RED
12+ BLUE
+++ as many YELLOW as possible
:D
Thanks for your generous offer.
How would you like to deal with shipping?

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:56 pm

no problem at all!

Cat-A-Tonic wrote:How would you like to deal with shipping?
how about this - you PM me the address in Kawasaki where you'd like them shipped, and I'll ship them there 8)

you'll have to wait about a week for me to stick them in the mail, getting on a plane again in the morning and won't have a chance, but if you can - they are yours. Don't worry about the shipping, maybe you can send me some crazy strange Japanese stickers or something

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Post by Kwote » Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:38 am

Muff Wiggler wrote:maybe you can send me some crazy strange Japanese stickers or something
rumor has it he'll be sending you this sticker:


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Post by Bricks » Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:56 am

I want to put blacet style knobs on my frequncy shifter, rather than the silver metal ones, but the pots are flipped! I'd need blacet knobs that have an inverted D shape. Anyone know where to buy such monsters?

Eventually I'll probably switch all my Doepfer knobs to Black/Grey Indicator like Plan B.

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Color Coding

Post by Cat-A-Tonic » Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:57 pm

My current color coding scheme is:

Blue = Freq
Red = Level/Gain/Mix
Grey = "Shape" Width/ADSR
Yellow = "Other" PWM/Variable Wave
Orange = "Timing" Rate/Clock

I am thinking about switching the yellows and oranges because I change the settings on "timing" knobs alot more than I do on "other" knobs.
Thus, they may be more deserving of the brighter color.

Initially I was kind of going on the amount that I had to work with, but Muff is solving that issue for me. :)

Sometimes it is difficult to decide for an individual knob whether its
function warrants one color or another.

By dressing the synth knob by knob instead of module by module I don't
think the smooth rainbow effect will be as apparent.

Some modules do require greater density of a given color.
My Quad VCA is covered in Red as a result of its function.

I find that this shift in density and my concept of function makes it very assymetrical, yet somehow balanced (I hope), like a Jackson Pollock.
The DIY CGS modules still have different types of knobs to match their faceplates, and the mixing of manufacturers in my smaller rig will no doubt lead to an ununiform appearance anyways.
I feel it is fitting for a "franken-synth."

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Post by Kwote » Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:21 am

the color scheme thing ain't bad. i'm actually more apt to have an all grey knob setup but since i acquire modules both used and new and don't want to invest in any makeover work i'll probably always have a somewhat random setup.
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Post by Muff Wiggler » Mon Mar 17, 2008 1:28 am

i really like the idea of color coding per knob! never tought of that myself.... i was at first coding er module, but that eventually broke down....

at first -

Grey - Sound Generators (VCO, Dark Star, etc)
Blue - Sound Processors (Time Machine, Klang Werk, Filters etc)
Yellow - Control and Audio Processing (EG's, VCAs, Mixers etc)

It eventually fell apart for a few reasons -

- Too many modules blur the lines; Is the Frequency Divider a Sound Processor or a Control voltage module? Etc...

- Trying to keep symmetry across color usage was proving impossible

- Eventually the 'rainbow effect' got to me and I thought it looked lame.

Switching to all grey knobs solved all these problems for me.

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Post by Kwote » Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:24 am

Muff Wiggler wrote:i really like the idea of color coding per knob! never tought of that myself.... i was at first coding er module, but that eventually broke down....

at first -

Grey - Sound Generators (VCO, Dark Star, etc)
Blue - Sound Processors (Time Machine, Klang Werk, Filters etc)
Yellow - Control and Audio Processing (EG's, VCAs, Mixers etc)

It eventually fell apart for a few reasons -

- Too many modules blur the lines; Is the Frequency Divider a Sound Processor or a Control voltage module? Etc...

- Trying to keep symmetry across color usage was proving impossible

- Eventually the 'rainbow effect' got to me and I thought it looked lame.

Switching to all grey knobs solved all these problems for me.
yeah. it does look a bit lame. i think patch cords is the way to solve things. like it's always been. but i'm gonna stay lazy for now. i think i'll move to the grey knobs at some point for sure though. everything i order new from blacet has been grey. which so far only cover my klangwerk and 2nd dual vca.
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colorful knobs

Post by Cat-A-Tonic » Mon Mar 24, 2008 10:50 pm

The knobs arrived today!
Thanks again!

My KlangWerk is almost finished too!

Now Yellow is for Timing functions, and Orange is for Attenuation.

I will post pictures soon.

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Post by Kwote » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:10 pm

i gots to get some grey knobs. i give myself a month tops before i cave.

i need 34 in all to retrofit the none grey ones.
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Post by Muff Wiggler » Mon Mar 24, 2008 11:12 pm

that's one color you ain't gonna get from me young man :x

glad they made it to Japan safely and quickly Cat-A-Tonic 8) enjoy

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Post by Kwote » Tue Mar 25, 2008 12:00 am

Muff Wiggler wrote:that's one color you ain't gonna get from me young man :x
you're right. i'm gonna get it from mouser. :)

edit- guess i couldn't wait a month. copped :lol:
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Post by Kwote » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:19 am

Kwote wrote:
Muff Wiggler wrote:that's one color you ain't gonna get from me young man :x
you're right. i'm gonna get it from mouser. :)

edit- guess i couldn't wait a month. copped :lol:
got em. holy crap that was fast. less than a week. that makes me feel good dealing with mouser since i'll be getting most of my building tools from them soon.

edit - installed at lunch! picture will be taken and posted tonight. looks freakin awesome i must say. makes all the modules look so much more cohesive.
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Post by Kwote » Fri Mar 28, 2008 8:05 pm

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Post by J.w.M. » Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:52 pm

That looks pretty snappy.

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Post by Kwote » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:07 am

J.w.M. wrote:That looks pretty snappy.
yup. the more i look at it the more i realize how horribly crappy the multicolored knobs used to look.

now the shit looks like it's ready to make a power move :!: :lol:
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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:21 am

looks way better!!! 8) super nice

i went through the same line of thinking when i switched to all grey - i think it's the best color for the Blacet vibe

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:22 am

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no contest :D

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Post by Muff Wiggler » Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:25 am

you gotta get modding young man :twisted:

that EG looks naked with so few jacks on it.... and the VCO FM mod is SO SO SO easy... and those LFOs need a range swith on their panels.....


seriously start with the VCO mod, because it's already done for you. Two wires, they go to holes already on the PCB that are waiting for them. The other ends of the two wires, you connect to one switch that you provide. Done deal. You can then select between AC and DC coupling for the VCO's FM, which makes a big difference if you want to do something like FM it with an EG....

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