XAOC Devices - Praga

meatbeatz · Post by **meatbeatz** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 8:35 am

This deserves a dedicated thread:

XAOC Devices has just about nailed the mixer of my dreams. Hopefully it sounds as good as it looks.

[EDIT] Updated pic.

fac · Post by **fac** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:12 am

I agree, it's fucking perfect. If only I had a slightly bigger system, I'd surely buy one.

phasebash · Post by **phasebash** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:32 am

I hope it's built on mid-high end op amps (ie: not TL072s). If so... sold!

tcb · Post by **tcb** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:39 am

want!

matttech · Post by **matttech** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 9:49 am

if it's anything like the Moskwa, it'll be one of those things that you think "is it really THAT good/ interesting?" ....and then buy one anyway, only to find out it's utterly blinding.

love the Moskwa, and it's made me take any of their new stuff much more seriously

falafelbiels · Post by **falafelbiels** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:07 am

Clever with the auxes...

BTG · Post by **BTG** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:20 am

Any estimates on price?

mrcharles · Post by **mrcharles** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:08 am

It also deserves a bigger picture... so here:

I'd love to read more about the details of this... XAOC - care to chime in?

bsmith · Post by **bsmith** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:24 am

This thing looks so awesome!!!
Any possibility those stereo outputs might be trs with normalling of the other channel to the ring for headphone awesomeness? Not a big deal if not - hardly use the headphone on my unify anyway, just thinkin'.....
This wil be a must acquire. Aux sections, yes!!!!!

corex · Post by **corex** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:40 am

Seems really full-featured. Dual aux loops, quad VCA, VC-panning... wow!

HueMonContact · Post by **HueMonContact** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:28 pm

This is one of my favorite soon to be released mixer designs!
So many great functions, I'm already coming up with patch ideas for this one. I'm a total mixer fiend... this and the new LOW GAIN mixer will be in my system when they are available.

maudibe · Post by **maudibe** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:42 pm

Wow... now to find space, cash...erm... need more inputs...so need two. Oh grief.

Kodama · Post by **Kodama** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 12:45 pm

Like many folks, I have to use headphones a lot, so I wish that these awesome mixers had headphone amps like Unify!

Tomek Mirt · Post by **Tomek Mirt** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:01 pm

soon, there will be more news

.
There will be additional module expanding possibilities of Praga (stand alone not expander!)

Mans · Post by **Mans** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:06 pm

Tomek Mirt wrote:soon, there will be more news .
There will be additional module expanding possibilities of Praga (stand alone not expander!)

A CV tool?

The mixer looks amazing. Hope it's low noise and the VCA's respond well to AM.

paulstone · Post by **paulstone** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:08 pm

Tomek Mirt wrote:soon, there will be more news .
There will be additional module expanding possibilities of Praga (stand alone not expander!)

Mute button ?

itijik · Post by **itijik** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:21 pm

phasebash wrote:I hope it's built on mid-high end op amps (ie: not TL072s). If so... sold!

Do we have an answer on this?

Parametex · Post by **Parametex** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:41 pm

itijik wrote:
phasebash wrote:I hope it's built on mid-high end op amps (ie: not TL072s). If so... sold!
Do we have an answer on this?

+1 interested on this

The design looks pretty perfect!

Crossing fingers, we really have no need for more shit-chip-summing ...

m-m · Post by **m-m** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:44 pm

I'll get this the second it comes out

meatbeatz · Post by **meatbeatz** » Tue Jan 29, 2013 11:03 pm

The individual VCA outs are winner. Will the VCA out remove that channel from the stereo out when plugged?

I had planned on using an AUX send out to a headphone module for cue mixing (something I'm surprised isn't standard in output mixers) but if there is a possibility of a headphone expansion can it please have PFL for each channel?

Also, a 4HP non-clicking channel mute expander would be the bomb.

albiedamned · Post by **albiedamned** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:25 am

It does look very good as is. The feature I would like to see added is attenuation on the aux sends and amplification on the returns, so it can easily be used with line level gear. That's 4 extra knobs though, so it would have to get bigger.

mDang · Post by **mDang** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:31 am

Great mixer, i'll buy one of this

radiokoala · Post by **radiokoala** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:56 am

albiedamned wrote:It does look very good as is. The feature I would like to see added is attenuation on the aux sends and amplification on the returns, so it can easily be used with line level gear. That's 4 extra knobs though, so it would have to get bigger.

I'm sure there is attenuation on the aux sends already -- just turn an aux knob (knobs) a wee bit, instead of fully CW/CCW.

READYdot · Post by **READYdot** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 3:16 am

This looks so good, that I'll probably ditch my Mutamix, as I hardly never use the sequencing stuff on it.

Thonk Support · Post by **Thonk Support** » Wed Jan 30, 2013 7:34 am

It is precisely what I've wanted from mixers in the past too and none of them quite hit the spot

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XAOC Devices - Praga

XAOC Devices - Praga