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Post by sempervirent » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:05 pm

Artaos wrote:Any plans to make a 4ms Tapographic Delay panel?
Maybe later I'll catch up on more 4ms aluminum panels. Or as @MARK27 mentions, 4ms is going to make black panels too, which look great, and IIRC they are going to sell them individually as well. Preview here:

In other black panel news... things have really gone full circle, I'm doing an alt panel for a Grayscale module.

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Taking preorders now, will be shipping in about 2-3 weeks:
http://grayscale.info/panels/grayscale- ... thm-black/

The panel is reversible, with labels for the V1 firmware on one side and labels for the meta menus of the V2 "Polyrhythm" firmware on the other side. (Can't easily do this on aluminum, unfortunately.)

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Post by synthcube » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:48 pm

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Post by sempervirent » Fri Apr 13, 2018 11:27 am

Bump... uOC/uTemps preorders will start shipping next week (along with black Algorhythm panels).

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Post by sempervirent » Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:55 pm

Most uOC/uTemps preorders have been shipped as of today. Look for tracking info via email. The aluminum uO_C panels are backordered, so a few preorders will have to wait another 10-15 days, sorry about that.

The black Algo panels are in too, looking good:


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Post by sempervirent » Fri May 11, 2018 3:11 pm

Sold out of uO_C PCBs temporarily, will have more next week, along with a few of the black Make Noise panels that have sold out (Erbe-Verb, modDemix, RxMx).

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Post by flipper16 » Wed Jun 20, 2018 11:59 am

Hey Wes,

With all the new Cwejman modules now available in green again... :yay: I was wondering if the images on Mod Grid will be updated so we can plan beautiful looking green Cwejman racks.

I'm not asking you to undertake such a task but just curious what would be involved to get it done as some of the images are simply horrid... :help:

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Post by sempervirent » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:17 pm

Doing another batch of 4ms DLD panels:
https://grayscale.info/panels/4ms-dld/

Ordering today, so please get your orders in soon because it's a small batch.

Restocked black STO panels last week:
https://grayscale.info/panels/make-noise-sto-black/

A few panels have been marked down to clear out inventory:
https://grayscale.info/panels/alright-d ... hronoblob/
https://grayscale.info/panels/turing-machine-v1/
https://grayscale.info/panels/turing-machine-v2/
https://grayscale.info/panels/turing-machine-volts/
https://grayscale.info/panels/turing-machine-pulses-v2/
https://grayscale.info/panels/4ms-sism/
https://grayscale.info/panels/4ms-qplfo/
https://grayscale.info/panels/4ms-scm/
https://grayscale.info/panels/4ms-scm-breakout-v21/
flipper16 wrote:With all the new Cwejman modules now available in green again... :yay: I was wondering if the images on Mod Grid will be updated so we can plan beautiful looking green Cwejman racks.

I'm not asking you to undertake such a task but just curious what would be involved to get it done as some of the images are simply horrid
I would probably update the images if I was getting any of the new stuff, but I haven't been so interested in MBC-3, BLD MK2, etc. Maybe when that 16-band filterbank (or whatever it might be) is released I will take this on....

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Post by Junk Rhythm » Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:38 pm

Will you be doing panels for Stages, Plaits and then eventually Marbles from Mutable?

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Post by igowen » Thu Oct 11, 2018 2:08 pm

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igowen wrote:got a set of black MN panels -- all of them are awesome, except for the morphagene. the holes for the buttons seem way too big and they're really wobbly.
Sorry about that, wasn't aware of this but it does seem like the holes are too large. I'll fix this on the next batch and send a free replacement to anyone who wants one. FWIW the other panels for modules that use those switches (Ø-Coast, Telharmonic, and Tempi) have holes of the correct size.
just wanted to check in and see if a batch of morphagene panels with correctly-sized holes ever got made?

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Post by rhodopsinist » Tue Oct 16, 2018 4:23 am

MARK27 wrote:
Artaos wrote:Any plans to make a 4ms Tapographic Delay panel?
Depending on what you're looking for, 4ms are about to release their own line of alternate black panels for most of their catalog of modules. I think they showed off one for the Tapographic Delay at NAMM 2018.

I just bought a bunch of 4ms stuff that I always wanted, but would never fit into my all black eurorack system. I'm counting the days until they release those black panels.
I just bought a 4ms TapoDelay and so tempted to have a grayscale faceplate for it too...to match with my other modules that are in aluminum...

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Post by Crayg » Wed Oct 17, 2018 8:13 pm

I would def be into a tapographic grayscale panel too!

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Post by sempervirent » Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:14 pm

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4ms DLD panels are back in stock:
https://grayscale.info/panels/
Junk Rhythm wrote:Will you be doing panels for Stages, Plaits and then eventually Marbles from Mutable?
Unsure as of yet...
igowen wrote:just wanted to check in and see if a batch of morphagene panels with correctly-sized holes ever got made?
Yes, only the first run had switch holes that were oversized, this was resolved quite a while ago. I will ship you a free replacement if you PM me to confirm your address.
rhodopsinist wrote:I just bought a 4ms TapoDelay and so tempted to have a grayscale faceplate for it too...to match with my other modules that are in aluminum...
Haven't worked out a design for that one (or the STS) but it's possible, not before the end of the year though.

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Post by propertyof » Tue Dec 11, 2018 8:39 am

Would really love some alternate panel for some popular modules like 4ms RCD or other 4-6HP utilities, so we can put it sideways into our Intellijel case 1U row.

I believe there’s a market for it. Maybe Grayscale can fulfill the dream... :despair:

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Post by jayrope » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:18 pm

I wish Grayscale would do more aluminum panels.

The new trend to be white on black really doesn't work with bad eyes.
My Morphagene in eligible aluminum would be optimum to work with.

And I wish Grayscale would have proper distribution in Central Europe (or do they?)
Ordering from the US takes forever, and Signal Sounds in Glasgow run out of supplies oftenly.

Thanx for any hints.

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Post by sempervirent » Sat Dec 15, 2018 10:33 pm

propertyof wrote:Would really love some alternate panel for some popular modules like 4ms RCD or other 4-6HP utilities, so we can put it sideways into our Intellijel case 1U row.

I believe there’s a market for it. Maybe Grayscale can fulfill the dream... :despair:
IMO this would be very difficult to scale up because of:
  • Competing 1U "standards"
  • The huge number of 2/3/4hp modules out there (I don't think 6hp will actually fit, but perhaps that's true only for the Erthenvar spec, not the Intellijel spec)
  • The fact that cases with 1U rows are still in the minority
  • Knobs, displays, etc will still be rotated 90° 
I'd encourage anyone who wants to experiment with this idea to download the free design software that Front Panel Express offers. They also do UV printing now. It's much easier to make your own panels now than it used to be.
jayrope wrote:I wish Grayscale would do more aluminum panels.
Not planning anything new at this point with the possible exception of Marbles/Plaits/Stages/Tides early next year.
jayrope wrote:And I wish Grayscale would have proper distribution in Central Europe (or do they?) Ordering from the US takes forever, and Signal Sounds in Glasgow run out of supplies oftenly.
Signal Sounds is currently the only source in the EU, that's unlikely to change. The other option is Analogue Haven which has many of the older aluminum panels in stock and will ship internationally.

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Post by sempervirent » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:47 am

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Saw this on ModularGrid... the new Make Noise look... no further comment.

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Post by squarewavesurfer » Sat Jan 12, 2019 6:56 am

sempervirent wrote:Image

Saw this on ModularGrid... the new Make Noise look... no further comment.
They updated the make noise website as well. same panels, no more blue knobs. :(

My guess is getting rid of the blue knobs means money saved. They didn't use them on their black panel line. I prefer the gray panels with the blue and white because it was iconic make noise to me.

The trend of black panel options has made it difficult for consumers to stick to one panel colour since both options are never in stock at the same time. But i know you can't please everyone

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Post by Superaction80 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:13 am

squarewavesurfer wrote:
sempervirent wrote:Image

Saw this on ModularGrid... the new Make Noise look... no further comment.
They updated the make noise website as well. same panels, no more blue knobs. :(

My guess is getting rid of the blue knobs means money saved. They didn't use them on their black panel line. I prefer the gray panels with the blue and white because it was iconic make noise to me.

The trend of black panel options has made it difficult for consumers to stick to one panel colour since both options are never in stock at the same time. But i know you can't please everyone
My understanding is Rogan knobs in colors other than white are a special order. Maybe that has become more expensive. Or make noise decided to stop messing with it. I’m with you on the color scheme. I was saddened when Mutable stopped using magenta and blue, though I recall Emilie saying she went with all white because she didn’t like how arbitrary the color schemes on the knobs were. Which is exactly why I liked them. I like having my system look a little visually counter-intuitive.

I’ve seen old threads here where folks had organized group buys of colored rogans. I wonder if that’s worth trying to start up again.
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Post by Muff McMuff » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:20 am

They probably just fancied a change. Freshen it up a little. Blue knobs may cost more when you order 5 but i doubt it makes much difference when you order 10,000, 20,000 or 50,000? I am just guessing on how may knobs Make Noise buy, i have no idea but they will be a lot cheaper than what a wiggler pays retail for a handful.

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Post by sempervirent » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:02 pm

Good points all around, I just thought it was interesting to see MN taking the "color" out of things.
squarewavesurfer wrote:My guess is getting rid of the blue knobs means money saved. They didn't use them on their black panel line. I prefer the gray panels with the blue and white because it was iconic make noise to me.
Yeah, it was iconic for them, I always wondered if the choice of blue was a subtle reference to the Buchla 200 series modules with the blue knobs (which were actually manufactured by the same knob company back in the 1970s).
squarewavesurfer wrote:The trend of black panel options has made it difficult for consumers to stick to one panel colour since both options are never in stock at the same time. But i know you can't please everyone
Yes, I think some people are getting my black alt panels even if they prefer the original MN graphics because waiting around for a black version of whatever module one might be seeking is not so fun. MN could offer panels individually as 4ms has done but for some reason they've chosen not to (I'd guess it's a use of the scarcity principle).
Superaction80 wrote:My understanding is Rogan knobs in colors other than white are a special order. Maybe that has become more expensive. Or make noise decided to stop messing with it. I’m with you on the color scheme. I was saddened when Mutable stopped using magenta and blue, though I recall Emilie saying she went with all white because she didn’t like how arbitrary the color schemes on the knobs were. Which is exactly why I liked them. I like having my system look a little visually counter-intuitive.
Rogan has standard color options, though I've never had colors quoted. I do know that the magenta and teal colors that Mutable used were custom.
Superaction80 wrote:I’ve seen old threads here where folks had organized group buys of colored rogans. I wonder if that’s worth trying to start up again.
I think you'd have to get permission from Mutable, since custom options (not just colors but also tooling for different shaft types) are not available to other buyers. It's the same with Harvestman orange. I don't think any of those group buys succeeded because the pricing doesn't really work unless you order 1,000 of each color.

As you can tell I've spent way too much time on the phone with Rogan! My rep always talks my ear off. They really love their synth customers. Mutable is even featured on the homepage of https://www.rogancorp.com

FWIW I no longer sell these knobs individually but you can get them from SynthCube (US) and Thonk (UK) in a range of sizes and shaft types:
https://synthcube.com/cart/rogan-series-p-knobs
https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/make-noise ... yle-knobs/

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Post by Superaction80 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:37 pm

sempervirent wrote: Rogan has standard color options, though I've never had colors quoted. I do know that the magenta and teal colors that Mutable used were custom.
Superaction80 wrote:I’ve seen old threads here where folks had organized group buys of colored rogans. I wonder if that’s worth trying to start up again.
I think you'd have to get permission from Mutable, since custom options (not just colors but also tooling for different shaft types) are not available to other buyers. It's the same with Harvestman orange. I don't think any of those group buys succeeded because the pricing doesn't really work unless you order 1,000 of each color.

As you can tell I've spent way too much time on the phone with Rogan! My rep always talks my ear off. They really love their synth customers. Mutable is even featured on the homepage of https://www.rogancorp.com

FWIW I no longer sell these knobs individually but you can get them from SynthCube (US) and Thonk (UK) in a range of sizes and shaft types:
https://synthcube.com/cart/rogan-series-p-knobs
https://www.thonk.co.uk/shop/make-noise ... yle-knobs/
I can see why people replace their mutable Rogans with Davies. And this probably is weird, but somehow that seems less appealing to me than trying to find the magenta and blue Rogans. :bang: :despair: :help:

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Post by Abyssinianloop » Tue Mar 26, 2019 10:43 pm

I saw an example of an aluminum RYO Paths on Modulargrid, and a few request mentions in this thread. Is that something that really happened or is available?

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Post by sempervirent » Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:18 am

Abyssinianloop wrote:I saw an example of an aluminum RYO Paths on Modulargrid, and a few request mentions in this thread. Is that something that really happened or is available?
It was a one-off, I could send you the file, the company that I typically work with for one-offs is also based in Seattle (however this means you also pay WA state sales tax so a one-off would be around $50 plus shipping.

In other news: anyone into a QPAS alt panel? I have the module sitting here on my desk, haven't gotten around to scanning the panel yet.

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:54 am

Yeah, I'd be interested in a Grayscale option for QPAS.
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Post by llllll » Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:42 am

Yes to qpas!

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