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Post by en. » Wed Dec 16, 2015 7:49 am

is there any pitch/frequency follower available?

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Post by en. » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:25 am

would like somthg simple as the envelope follower with assignable destinations, not to track other instruments but to have parameters influenced in realtime by the frequency of an incoming/recorded audio
is there perhaps an object so i can build one? someone can help me? thnx!

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Post by mwvm » Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:30 am

en. wrote:would like somthg simple as the envelope follower with assignable destinations, not to track other instruments but to have parameters influenced in realtime by the frequency of an incoming/recorded audio
is there perhaps an object so i can build one? someone can help me? thnx!
+1

I was thinking about this too.

Or specifically in my case having an audio option like Henke's LFO to use with the ES-3 and cv my eurorack stuff
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Post by ignatius » Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:37 pm

en. wrote:would like somthg simple as the envelope follower with assignable destinations, not to track other instruments but to have parameters influenced in realtime by the frequency of an incoming/recorded audio
is there perhaps an object so i can build one? someone can help me? thnx!
you can definitely do this in max and there's probably a few different things in the max4live database that can get to some approximation of what you are after. but i can't link to specifics.. just have a search or browse on the max4live database. also look into what's already included w/maxforlive. it comes w/a shit ton of devices and starting points for making your own things.

http://www.maxforlive.com/

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Post by en. » Fri Dec 18, 2015 4:55 am

yea i've found this, i'll see if i can do some changes, thank you!
http://maxforlive.com/library/index.php ... =pitch2map

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Post by thehumanplugin » Sun Jan 03, 2016 8:08 pm

Are there any good granular plugins aside from granulator II?


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Post by pievo » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:22 am

didn't know there are so many.great to know. Thanks for the links!

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Post by mwvm » Wed Jan 06, 2016 6:43 am

Hey guys. Robert Henke's LFO allows you to route the signal to an audio out... so I can use it via an ES-3.

Are there any envelopes that work this way? Other than some mapping assignment?
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Post by ersatzplanet » Wed Jan 06, 2016 11:34 am

Surprised nobody mentions MacForCats Oscillate. Over 100 modules in one package.
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Post by ignatius » Wed Jan 06, 2016 1:50 pm

ersatzplanet wrote:Surprised nobody mentions MacForCats Oscillate. Over 100 modules in one package.
It has its own long thread somewhere.

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Post by tomhall » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:11 pm

thehumanplugin wrote:Are there any good granular plugins aside from granulator II?
Checkout Grainface and Scrub Face

http://www.maxology.club/starter-kit-in ... -percolate

Grainface uses munger~ which might be my favorite 'all time' singular granular object. Although I'm working on something that will hopefully be better in gen~

Another classic that I think is well executed is a project called "The Mill" that uses poly~, that a guy did back in the Max4 days, but it drastically needs an update to Max7.

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Post by Marx » Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:43 am

mwvm wrote:Hey guys. Robert Henke's LFO allows you to route the signal to an audio out... so I can use it via an ES-3.

Are there any envelopes that work this way? Other than some mapping assignment?
Brilliant, i never really looked on the LFO as i was superhappy with the ones that came with Live but with the audio possibility it's right what i need for the ES-3!

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Post by mr chombee » Fri Jan 08, 2016 7:17 am

mwvm wrote:Hey guys. Robert Henke's LFO allows you to route the signal to an audio out... so I can use it via an ES-3.

Are there any envelopes that work this way? Other than some mapping assignment?
Well, Oscillot has it all. ;) LFOs, envelopes, randomizers, sequencers and whatnot. There's a free version available, but for envelopes it only supports an AD envelope. If a simple envelope is all you need, you could also build one yourself, using Max' adsr~ object or put something together via Max 7's built-in Beap modules.

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Post by mwvm » Fri Jan 08, 2016 12:12 pm

mr chombee wrote:
mwvm wrote:Hey guys. Robert Henke's LFO allows you to route the signal to an audio out... so I can use it via an ES-3.

Are there any envelopes that work this way? Other than some mapping assignment?
Well, Oscillot has it all. ;) LFOs, envelopes, randomizers, sequencers and whatnot. There's a free version available, but for envelopes it only supports an AD envelope. If a simple envelope is all you need, you could also build one yourself, using Max' adsr~ object or put something together via Max 7's built-in Beap modules.
With oscillot - if it sits in an ableton channel, you're limited to routing right? Ie it'll be limited to stereo?
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Post by Norma » Fri Jan 08, 2016 1:30 pm

Just got M4L not to long ago...man so many spectacular devices. Actually upgraded just so I can finally use / buy all the great stuff I've been eyeballin' for so long. <3 Max

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Post by mr chombee » Fri Jan 08, 2016 6:30 pm

mwvm wrote: With oscillot - if it sits in an ableton channel, you're limited to routing right? Ie it'll be limited to stereo?
If you want to send more than 2 channels of CV from a single instance of Oscillot, there's an 'audio send' module and an 'audio receive' device (included in the full version only). This allows to route audio to 4 additional stereo buses, giving you a total of 10 mono outs. Thus, you could e.g. use 8 channels for CV via the ES-3 and have two more channels for plain audio signals via your soundcard, e.g. to feed things like digital oscillators, noise generators, sample playback, etc. from Oscillot into your modular.

This reminds me that I wanted to make a tutorial video about this. :doh:

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Post by mwvm » Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:28 am

mr chombee wrote:
mwvm wrote: With oscillot - if it sits in an ableton channel, you're limited to routing right? Ie it'll be limited to stereo?
If you want to send more than 2 channels of CV from a single instance of Oscillot, there's an 'audio send' module and an 'audio receive' device (included in the full version only). This allows to route audio to 4 additional stereo buses, giving you a total of 10 mono outs. Thus, you could e.g. use 8 channels for CV via the ES-3 and have two more channels for plain audio signals via your soundcard, e.g. to feed things like digital oscillators, noise generators, sample playback, etc. from Oscillot into your modular.

This reminds me that I wanted to make a tutorial video about this. :doh:
Thanks for this.... that's convinced me enough.

If this helps anyone else out - the 8 outs can be assigned in stereo pairs or mon to other ableton channels if you select "audio from" oscillot in an ableton channel and select a required ADAT to "audio to"....you have to assign the separate "oscillot audio receiver" m4l device (found in max audio effects) as an insert and select what audio out channels you want to recieve from oscillot.
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Post by x2mirko » Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:57 am

mwvm wrote: I'm assuming it's different from reaktor then, as running it as a plug in ableton means i can only send 2 cv outs and assign ableton's channel out to a ADAT via an ES-3?
If i understand what you're saying correctly, you might simply not be aware of a routing option in ableton live. Say you have an track with a vst-plugin that's capable of producing audio on several outputs (e.g. 6). With the routing options of that track, you can only send audio to at most two outputs, as you said. But if you create another audio track, you can tell the new track to use the vst-track as an input and can then specify which outputs of the vst-track to use. You can then route that audio to another pair of outputs. You can repeat this process until you're using all audio outputs of the vst.

It's not as easy as drawing a wire, but it works.

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Post by mwvm » Sun Jan 10, 2016 10:22 am

x2mirko wrote:
mwvm wrote: I'm assuming it's different from reaktor then, as running it as a plug in ableton means i can only send 2 cv outs and assign ableton's channel out to a ADAT via an ES-3?
If i understand what you're saying correctly, you might simply not be aware of a routing option in ableton live. Say you have an track with a vst-plugin that's capable of producing audio on several outputs (e.g. 6). With the routing options of that track, you can only send audio to at most two outputs, as you said. But if you create another audio track, you can tell the new track to use the vst-track as an input and can then specify which outputs of the vst-track to use. You can then route that audio to another pair of outputs. You can repeat this process until you're using all audio outputs of the vst.

It's not as easy as drawing a wire, but it works.
i figured it out and edited my post :hihi:
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Post by mwvm » Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:13 pm

So how do you send triggers in from eurorack to oscillot? Is this limited to 2 inputs L and R?
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Post by mwvm » Tue Jan 12, 2016 2:50 am



The whole patch was driven by oscillot via a ES-3 (S & H, sequencers and LFO) and audio outs (triggers) a motu 828x

The probability logic is particularly great for oscillot. I used 4 sample and holds with noise inputs triggered by these gates.

The bass drum is a Bf22 self oscillating and snare a A118 via a Bf22.

We need 16 outs!! And I need another ES-3.

One massive negative - I have had the blue screen of death :waah:
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Post by Limbertimbre » Thu Jan 14, 2016 2:56 pm

I keep finding myself coming back to the Granulator2. So much that I'm preferring to use the Echophon less and less every day for time/pitch stuff. Has anyone here done any modifications to the Granulator2?

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Post by Black Medicine » Thu Jan 14, 2016 6:16 pm

While this is an application written in Max, you can bridge it to Ableton using Soundflower, and it's pretty fun.

https://cycling74.com/project/77_gs-a-g ... nthesizer/

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Post by declutter » Sun Feb 07, 2016 4:10 pm

Limbertimbre wrote:I keep finding myself coming back to the Granulator2. So much that I'm preferring to use the Echophon less and less every day for time/pitch stuff. Has anyone here done any modifications to the Granulator2?
I use it a lot too. Haven't done any mods - enough parameters already to tweak - add a few LFOs for good measure.

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