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Advice from my fellow Wigglers (SSM2030 Osc)
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Do i produce these
yes
51%
 51%  [ 21 ]
no
48%
 48%  [ 20 ]
Total Votes : 41

Author Advice from my fellow Wigglers (SSM2030 Osc)
mono-poly
ssm2030's go for over 50 euro now.
So $250 for a build module is a bargain.
worker8
makenoise wrote:
Use 2030 to keep the classics running.

Tony


+1
levka
@malekko:
Would it's CV-in also run from Doepfer's internal CV bus ?
paults
EMu modulars used their own potted module design (actually it was 2 potted modules, 1 was the expo converter, the other was the sawtooth core).

The confusion: Dave Rossum of EMu *designed* the SSM20xx series of ICs. Ron Dow of Exar did the IC layouts.

SSM ICs (all but the 2056 EG which was done on a different process) suffer from 2 issues:

a) ESD sensitivity
b) the +- power supply rails need to "come up" at the same time or the part can latch up (this was a common problem in the late 70s/early 80s bipolar IC processes).

Here is a thought: make a dual VCO and add a socket for a 3rd *spare* 2030 IC that has all pins tied to ground. It's like a spare tire in a car Rockin' Banana!
thetwlo
The 2030 has the best PWM I've heard.
I've heard comments that the Oakley VCO is similar, but have never heard the Oakley. My weird emu/DIY thing is all 2030/2040 and sounds amazing. The E-mu Audity and the E-mu diy eval boards used the 20x0 chips as well. I thought later E-mu modulars did start using the SSM chips, no?
science
I'd probably be in for the dual osc idea...
Suburban Bather
I voted "yes," but only if you end up making it a dual VCO SlayerBadger! I would pass on this, but I think a dual 2030 VCO will sell pretty fast.

Two Anti's, a Hurtz Donut, MFB Osc-02, and one of Paul's new modules will do it for me on Euro VCO's.

I'm more interested in the rest of the Wiard modules and delay. Any progress on the delay? I want, I want cry
Chuck E. Jesus
i've been think of one more osc, was considering the Cwejman VCO 6, but i'd take a close look at the SSM, single please...
vav
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
i've been think of one more osc, was considering the Cwejman VCO 6, but i'd take a close look at the SSM, single please...


OMFG CHUCK E JESUS, THAT DRUM GUY ON MYSPACE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA
Chuck E. Jesus
vav wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
i've been think of one more osc, was considering the Cwejman VCO 6, but i'd take a close look at the SSM, single please...


OMFG CHUCK E JESUS, THAT DRUM GUY ON MYSPACE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA


question
NV
I would imagine an analogue dual-oscillator design with unique built-in cross modulation capabilities would be interesting, particularly at a price that competes well with the Cwejman and Macbeth offerings. Something like that would certainly add some spice to a somewhat saturated oscillator market.

I think that the differences between "standard" analogue oscillators are subtle enough to warrant manufacturers adopting interesting takes on the tried and true oscillator architecture. Anything you can do to add more unique designs to modulars would be wonderful in my opinion.
dougt
Malekko wrote:
as i have a Rev1 P5 AND the only double manual SSM P10 in existence!


Ah so you have it now? That was my P10 for a while... Ever get it working?

As far as SSM2030 modules go I dunno. The 2030s are not what made the P-5 rev1/2 special. Save them for future repairs...
vav
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
vav wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
i've been think of one more osc, was considering the Cwejman VCO 6, but i'd take a close look at the SSM, single please...


OMFG CHUCK E JESUS, THAT DRUM GUY ON MYSPACE HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA


question


I was drunk, sorry.

There is/was a guy on myspace named Chuck E. Budd, whose deal was pictures of some fat guy playing the bongos on everything...guitars, penguins, toilets, etc.

example:

We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
Chuck E. Jesus
vav wrote:


I was drunk, sorry.



what's that like?
vav
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
vav wrote:


I was drunk, sorry.



what's that like?


From what i remember, it was quite off topic. razz
Chuck E. Jesus
vav wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
vav wrote:


I was drunk, sorry.



what's that like?


From what i remember, it was quite off topic. razz


sorry, i thought you were just taking your work home with you w00t
vav
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
vav wrote:
Chuck E. Jesus wrote:
vav wrote:


I was drunk, sorry.



what's that like?


From what i remember, it was quite off topic. razz


sorry, i thought you were just taking your work home with you w00t


i was. Now shh, let's talk about Osc's! The beer thread is in Off Topic! hyper Guinness ftw!


So i love the sound of sync'd Sequential oscillators, i assume this would be implemented in the module?
Peake
REwire wrote:
Not for me, thank you. I never heard an SSM or CEM based 80's synth that sounded that good in one voice.


Dang. That's a good point. At least three oscillators would be needed to make a nice mono sound.

The SSM isn't huge, but it has a very nice tone. Very nice.
mono-poly
He never heard the 2030 i guess smile

dougt wrote:
Malekko wrote:
as i have a Rev1 P5 AND the only double manual SSM P10 in existence!


Ah so you have it now? That was my P10 for a while... Ever get it working?

As far as SSM2030 modules go I dunno. The 2030s are not what made the P-5 rev1/2 special. Save them for future repairs...


Huh that is exactly what makes it special with the 2040 vcf.
So much greater sounding as the boring rev 3.
bbow73
I vote yes, there are more Dead Banana oscillators than there are Rockin' Banana!
and this would be Rockin' Banana!
dougt
mono-poly wrote:

Huh that is exactly what makes it special with the 2040 vcf.
So much greater sounding as the boring rev 3.


Huh? Exactly - it's the 2040s that make it special not the 2030s... 8_)
dougt
REwire wrote:
Not for me, thank you. I never heard an SSM or CEM based 80's synth that sounded that good in one voice.


The Pro-One is all CEM and it sounds pretty damn good to me! Mr. Green
mono-poly
I think it would still sound different if they used a cem vco instead off ssm.
wavehead
so if this never ended up going into production, what other ssm2030 oscillator modules exist out there? i would love to have an oscillator with that prophet sound... right now I do all my recording/performing with a Pro-One, and I can't get over how much I love it's sound... it would be cool to have something similar sounding with different functions in my modular.
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