A-192-1 - the ugly girl in the corner

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A-192-1 - the ugly girl in the corner

Post by SunSpots » Mon May 13, 2013 11:22 pm

Just got mine in and it's pure :sb:

Just a simple patch with 3 drum samples. At first I just wanted to trigger them... then I wanted to furiously twist them into other things.

Listen and enjoy, please.

http://soundcloud.com/sunspots/192-ones

(The reason I said "ugly girl in the corner" is because few talk about it, there's always some alternative, and I think it's hawt....)
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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Tue May 14, 2013 12:49 am

Boy you're fast!
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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Tue May 14, 2013 12:57 am

Hey you fuckers, I just realized that the a-192-1 has a preset for controlling the Sherman Filterbank! SHIIIIT :woah:
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Post by SunSpots » Tue May 14, 2013 2:05 am

http://soundcloud.com/sunspots/a-nother-192-ones

last one before bed. listen all the way through cause I finally slow it down and alter the touch sequencer patterns a little.

I told Paranormal this thing is making me want to sell my TTA drum modules :help: :party:
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Post by zap32 » Tue May 14, 2013 2:52 am

It's great.

Too bad it is out of stock.

I wish I could convert CV to CC.

I did not know there was a preset control the filterbank is a good reason to buy both !

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Tue May 14, 2013 2:59 am

Yeah, it is. But I want to check how much it overlaps with the Sherman's CV inputs/outputs, it might not be necessary to control everything via MIDI. That would free up a few of the 16 available paths to control other devices.

I've been telling SunSpots how I want to get a second a-192-1 but I suddenly want as many a-192-1's as the midi devices I have.
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Post by stk » Tue May 14, 2013 5:47 am

Awesome module.
I use it for CV control over Reaktor (granular samplers, fuck-off awesome effects and the like) and Nord Modular, and triggering VST drum synths (via a CV > Note Reaktor macro I built).

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Post by boramx » Tue May 14, 2013 7:05 am

I've been using mine with MAX lately. Using my synth to control jitter vids is fun almost to the point of being toxic. I was going to post something about it next week....

Good sounds Sspts!

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Post by SunSpots » Tue May 14, 2013 9:28 am

zap32 wrote:It's great.

Too bad it is out of stock.

I wish I could convert CV to CC.

I did not know there was a preset control the filterbank is a good reason to buy both !
I imported mine from schneiders :) did you check stock there? All I'm doing is converting cv to cc right now. I was having dreams about it last night. I must have hit a really obsessive nerve in my mind or something lol
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Post by SunSpots » Tue May 14, 2013 9:31 am

boramx wrote:I've been using mine with MAX lately. Using my synth to control jitter vids is fun almost to the point of being toxic. I was going to post something about it next week....

Good sounds Sspts!
Doooood. I want to see what you are doing with video and a192-1. That's a whole other thing I haven't even considered but will now put on the plate. Sounds like it could get incredibly interesting really fast. Lets see it :)
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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Tue May 14, 2013 9:34 am

I dare say I entertained the idea of quitting buying Sound modules and just focus on Modulation and Sequencing sources and a couple of a-192-1 and a-192-2's. I could always go Nord Modular for the sound in conjunction with the real modular.

Something to consider if I go broke at some point.
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Post by jonah » Tue May 14, 2013 10:17 am

I was looking at the manual and presets, Kawai K5000?! :hyper: Anyone know what the CCs being sent out are? I'm guessing it's the front panel macro knobs.

It'd be nice with the Sherman because then you'd get 3 more outs! But some of the fun stuff on the Sherman needs MIDI notes, so you'd want to send that into the a192.

The vocoder idea in the manual was pretty nuts. It makes me hope they are working on an updated version of the a191 though. Maybe the poly MIDI module will let you do this, but I think you'd have to change it to a toggle between Notes + Gates to MIDI CCs.

Some of the other presets are funny. Rebirth, sound blaster?! Who knows, maybe you can do cool stuff, but not something I would've thought of.

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Post by SunSpots » Tue May 14, 2013 10:46 am

jonah wrote:I was looking at the manual and presets, Kawai K5000?! :hyper: Anyone know what the CCs being sent out are? I'm guessing it's the front panel macro knobs.

It'd be nice with the Sherman because then you'd get 3 more outs! But some of the fun stuff on the Sherman needs MIDI notes, so you'd want to send that into the a192.

The vocoder idea in the manual was pretty nuts. It makes me hope they are working on an updated version of the a191 though. Maybe the poly MIDI module will let you do this, but I think you'd have to change it to a toggle between Notes + Gates to MIDI CCs.

Some of the other presets are funny. Rebirth, sound blaster?! Who knows, maybe you can do cool stuff, but not something I would've thought of.
Yeah I wonder if Dieter built presets for his own use at a specific moment in time? Probabaly :) None of the presets did what I wanted. I just reprogrammed the thing and now it's perfect. I *wish* the little jumper box on the back was on the front. I'm sure some DIY guys could make that happen though.

I have the first 6 chans sending a different note each. Notes trigger samples in Abelton drum rack. Then the rest of them send cc's, which I midi-learn in Abelton. I tried some Aalto assignments as well with some success, but was focused on drum mangling last night.

Also, the 2nd sample above is 4 drum samples only. I may limit myself to 4 samples/notes and the rest CCs. The CCs were where the fun really was at :)
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Post by chachi » Tue May 14, 2013 11:09 am

yeah i want one of these, no one is stocking them, just the 192-2.

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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Tue May 14, 2013 11:20 am

SunSpots wrote:I have the first 6 chans sending a different note each. Notes trigger samples in Abelton drum rack. Then the rest of them send cc's, which I midi-learn in Abelton. I tried some Aalto assignments as well with some success, but was focused on drum mangling last night.

Also, the 2nd sample above is 4 drum samples only. I may limit myself to 4 samples/notes and the rest CCs. The CCs were where the fun really was at :)
Keep in mind that you can always send a MIDI message and change the Preset for the duration of the module's operation.

And by the way, I double up some triggers for the same note. That way I can create more complex patterns with several triggers from different sources. Oh, and don't limit yourself to triggers mate ... :hihi:
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Post by SunSpots » Tue May 14, 2013 11:26 am

Paranormal Patroler wrote:I dare say I entertained the idea of quitting buying Sound modules and just focus on Modulation and Sequencing sources and a couple of a-192-1 and a-192-2's. I could always go Nord Modular for the sound in conjunction with the real modular.

Something to consider if I go broke at some point.
I have to admit that was a very prevalent thought while tweaking the A192-1 last night... I know I won't be rushing down that road though :) Lots of fun in my modular right now and it's not done yet.

As far as limiting to triggers, NO WAY. The majority of the fun was with LFO's and Modcan Touch sequenced CVs changing pitch and filter and FX sweeps etc. Man I have an amazing rabbit hole to dive down now. Looking for the A192-2 now to pair up with Aalto, and the A198 I just got in :hyper:

... then throw a modcan quad lfo and trigger riot at it and WOW. head explosion.
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Post by SunSpots » Tue May 14, 2013 11:30 am

Paranormal Patroler wrote:
SunSpots wrote:I have the first 6 chans sending a different note each. Notes trigger samples in Abelton drum rack. Then the rest of them send cc's, which I midi-learn in Abelton. I tried some Aalto assignments as well with some success, but was focused on drum mangling last night.

Also, the 2nd sample above is 4 drum samples only. I may limit myself to 4 samples/notes and the rest CCs. The CCs were where the fun really was at :)
Keep in mind that you can always send a MIDI message and change the Preset for the duration of the module's operation.

And by the way, I double up some triggers for the same note. That way I can create more complex patterns with several triggers from different sources. Oh, and don't limit yourself to triggers mate ... :hihi:
Okay so I didn't really catch that. Does it change presets upon midi change message, and stay changed and NOT be able to change again until restart? Or can you change from one to the next to the next as much as you'd like? That would open other doors I can hardly comprehend right now. But, for instance, have the A192-1 be tweaking the drums in one way, then you midi change to preset 2, that has all their CC's assigned to different parameters that makes everythign tweak out in a different way, then back again? If that's the case then I'm overwhelmed in a good way. Like this ----> :sadbanana: or this :eek:
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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Tue May 14, 2013 11:33 am

Yes, but did you try LFOs on the inputs you have assigned to Note Ons ?!? :razz:
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Post by SunSpots » Tue May 14, 2013 11:34 am

Paranormal Patroler wrote:Yes, but did you try LFOs on the inputs you have assigned to Note Ons ?!? :razz:
:love: I will now!
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Post by Paranormal Patroler » Tue May 14, 2013 11:44 am

SunSpots wrote:Okay so I didn't really catch that. Does it change presets upon midi change message, and stay changed and NOT be able to change again until restart? Or can you change from one to the next to the next as much as you'd like? That would open other doors I can hardly comprehend right now. But, for instance, have the A192-1 be tweaking the drums in one way, then you midi change to preset 2, that has all their CC's assigned to different parameters that makes everythign tweak out in a different way, then back again? If that's the case then I'm overwhelmed in a good way. Like this ----> :sadbanana: or this :eek:
A preset is changed temporarily by sending a Program Change message in the MIDI master channel. So you don't have to unplug the module to change its functionality. And you don't have to stay with one functionality for the duration of the operation of the module.

Enjoy!


PS: LFOs worked great with the DRM. Crazy stuff!
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Post by stk » Tue May 14, 2013 5:18 pm

Controlling nord mod through reaktor granulator, both being modulated by 192 and in turn modulating the eurorack modulators, while triggering / morphing layered video clips. :tu:

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Post by SunSpots » Tue May 14, 2013 6:57 pm

stk wrote:Controlling nord mod through reaktor granulator, both being modulated by 192 and in turn modulating the eurorack modulators, while triggering / morphing layered video clips. :tu:

:zen:
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Post by larhule » Tue May 14, 2013 9:24 pm

That first sample (which is awesome btw) sounds like someone is blasting away at a vintage video game.

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Post by SunSpots » Tue May 14, 2013 10:07 pm

Yeah I can hear that lol. It's that distorted sound that really gives that impression. It is like a really old school explosion sound!

Going to record some more stuff
Got a plan for how I'm going to set up a session default with four ableton samplers being wrangled... Then figure out how do send midi change messages in ableton
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Post by L.C.O. » Tue May 14, 2013 10:26 pm

I want one of these too! And it is true: they are nowhere to be found.
What is a good substitution? Any recommendations/testimonials?
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